Wow this is so accurate. When I feel like I’m being taken for granted by friends, I just disappear without explanation and never look back. I don’t bother with confrontation.
ENFP here with an ENTP friend. Whenever we talk about relationships, I talk about how it is important to explain everything to that other person, whereas she always points out how it's something that should be natural and not talked about. Now I completely understand why, thank you. When it comes to Si inferior, you can see how we respond the same when someone makes us feel uncomfortable, especially in social situations. We will likely pretend we don't exist at that moment, since neither of us likes to put up with Se heros or Ti heros. I value harmony and understanding, she values truth and an open mind above all, and we get non of that, only stubbornness and possibly yelling. Also, us having Ne doesn't help, since it seems no one understands us, so everything becomes even more frustrating.
It surprises but encourages me that both of you can’t put up with se hero as hearing this video made my se inferior feel very insecure and I wondered how se inferiors could be more compatible than those with stronger se
Actually, as an ENFP, I don't have much problems with Ti heroes. I actually find them pleasant most of the time. However, immature Te doms, especially ESTJ, are overbearing and I usually just ignore them whenever they try to bully me. I don't get along with most Se heroes but at least they are not bullies as Te heroes.
spot on. enfp here. si inferior makes me want to take time away from the world and fill up that si. worse than neglecting your needs for me is when they CHANGE your needs. they start telling you what music you like and so on. then into the fortress of solitude i go. have a nice day and remember : train S.E and you will feel amazing )
Good video. Pretty straightforward. Se Demon: everything is about coping. Don’t be neglectful, don’t take him for granted, don’t make him feel unsafe or uncomfortable, don’t be inconsiderate. Should be easy… you’d think. So far I’m doing a good job with my Si Inferior man because he’s giving me lots of attention. I plan on continuing to be my best for him because if he ever took his attention away and gave it to someone else, it would feel like I’m dying.
You hit the nail on the head with this one. Sometimes I wish I could take care of my needs better and not rely on others so much. The Battleground of Inhibition is truly well named. Good thing I stocked up on copium during the pandemic
This makes soo much sense. Explains why there’s 3 guys in my life I’m more drawn to, my bf is trying to figure out what my needs are. Now he’s asking more questions
Useful as usual 🙂 Thank you. You probably know it, but I still want to add that the dynamics at play act on multiple levels simultaneously so a perceived Se-Si problem also has Ne-Ni correlation, not just (as you mentioned) as a consequence but also possibly as a cause. Meaning that every Ne output affects the Ni meaning of the relationship and the therefore the willpower for any Se moves, and so on, who’s to say where it started? Even though Si will be more easy to explain and track than the Ni existing pattern/meaning, I’m not sure anyone should be so simplistically blamed. Maybe it’s best if instead of blame we focus on awareness of the dynamics itself. From my perception as a Ni user, Ne presented choices can range between salvation or doomsday, if these choices don’t align with one’s Fi or Ti values then internal conflict begins. I’ll choose but I won’t see myself in those choices. Dealing with Ni is not just about presenting choices, it’s also about being aware if Ni (similarly to Si:) is comfortable with those choices. It’s all about communication yes, not just of needs and wants but also values and goals. As much as Se needs to give a good experience to Si, Ne needs to present a good dream/possible outcome for Ni to be inspired.
Si parent just need to know that they cannot automatically where things go like Si hero can, but they can actually choose a better place for things than Si hero
I've always thought alot of the alpha betta stuff was bs. Good explanation on it. Because really you have to be masculine yes but gentle with women as well. And yes there needs matter. I'm learning this just through being friends with a esfj woman. I've learned alot.
Damn. I know I've had a hard time determining whether or not my type is this and that, but if ENPs get hurt as much as my (as far as I know) Ti inferior gets hurt when not being heard out, reality sounds absolutely painful. It's honestly already uncomfortable enough with Se critic. Can't imagine with Si inferior/Se demon. I feel the same with being listened to. If someone isn't willing to hear out my thoughts when it's my greatest need, I'll gladly reach out to someone else that does.
Although I know you say Se users are suitable for me as an ENFP. I find that XSFJ provide me with the comfort, thoughtfulness & care I need as apposed to any Se user in my life because SFJs have high Si so they observe my behavior & can cater to it easily & always make me feel looked after, loved & cared for ♥️
I stole my ENTP boyfriend from this disrespectful ISFP woman. Constantly berated and screamed at him despite him paying her rent and supporting her. The moment I came in the picture he deserted her overnight. Moved his shit while she was at work and said good luck with life. It's crazy what a respectful woman does to a man.
I'm a infj in a golden pair relationship with a trans male enfp i showed him the enfp season 19 episode and needed a few hours of alone time could definitely see that Si inferior needs space when they're uncomfy, he absolutely needs space being uncomfy but the rest of the time he's his whack no ti having person but still draws me in day by day sorry forthe little NF paragraph that probably means nothing but thanks for another awesome video!!
i think thats good as long as the other one who needs a lot of space isn't always the one incharge of deciding when you guys should be spending time. Cuz at some point its gonna feel like you only spend time together when they want it and when they dont you have to leave. And your needs arent as important in that manner
@@aladdout9454 yeah we live together so he doesnt get to much of a choice but see and spend time with me it's quite a bit 😂 but healthiest relationship I've ever been in and that to me is awesome cause I've seen so much improvement in myself in a lot of areas but he's caused a lot of growth in just a year and a half and he has too for himself i feel like as long as two people are happy and growing together it's all worth it! Thank you for the reply tho!
@@jordanbickford294 this gives me hope lol. I'm happy to hear that. Honestly i think golden pairs actually cause the most growth not pedagogue. I had the opposite view before.
@@aladdout9454 im glad it gives you hope! Its pretty crazy actually everywhere we go it's as if the world is routing for us people always say we got like a glow and with goals we constantly make and succeed its nice feeling like a actual partnership! We do enable eachother tho and can cause small setbacks id say that's the biggest issue😂
@@jordanbickford294 honestly with all the hype in hustle culture and obsession with self improvement, I'm not sure whats enabling vs. deeply loving someone anymore...just a big ol hole in spirituality i assume and obsessing over perfection and disapproving of "words of affirmation" as a love language I suppose
This is the reason i joined this channel, i fell back enxps one even had a gang which he had extremely active for 2 years at me and still has followers targeted at me in the background i.e. one is an ESFPs between the parent and grandparent stage
Thanks for the video Chase! Helpful and useful. ( Sometimes I go back into the csj library to try and figure out what's happening. Pessimistic functions and needs aren't being meet.)
I noticed my ex would do this at times. I wanted to fulfill her needs but I felt like mine wasn't being up either. How do an si child deal with an ENFP who doesn't speak up before its too late?
@@pinklasagna8328 I get the correlation but I was able to do it for 2 years prior despite having SE trickster. It was really hard to bring up the hard topics that would hurt her feelings. I guess it was doomed to fail
@@pinklasagna8328 but we dont know if this infp really tried or not. What if the infp tried with everything they had even developed their Se? Its then the enfps fault for not meeting the infp halfway
Say the se user has already neglected the si inferior’s needs, and si user has already withdrawn, is there a way for the se user to fix this ? Im trying to salvage a current relationship ! - if possible… 😢
Chase hold on! Hopefully things work out! I would suggest putting on a show and being extra dramatic with the ESTP while showing that you are about to leave your home. This will help the ESTP learn how they would feel if you left + how serious the whole thing is. They need to envision it in order to put in the effort and do what you want to keep your needs met
If Te is the function of understanding, do Te trickster and demon have the minimal capacity to understand shit? Also if I go out of my way to understand something via the use of as many inquiries, as I can as an ISTP, does that mean my Te is on a pathway to becoming an Ally or is that to be considered a standard and nothing I should be that proud of?
Si user may be better observant if they put attention towards other people and they have the attention span but sometimes they don't for some reason probably because they already predict what would happen after they have already been with the person for awhile which can be false because they need to balance their attention between themselves and others , Se user by default will always focus on other people and remember other people experiences, I even remember what my friend did years ago like the most random thing . As an Se inferior, I always observe other people constantly even to the point people are not aware that I'm passively listening to them while I'm talking to other people or doing my own thing and with my Ne nemesis I always notice the same pattern of behaviors though the pattern can be different at times . I'm just interested in what people are doing to the point I just pick up what they're doing without puting a lot of effort into it .When I bring up something that they just talked about with another person , they'll just ask me how do I know because they're like 5-10 meters away and sometimes even further away from me. People sometimes even ask me for other people secrets because I know a lot of other people secret because of that ability to observe people passively. I just said to them I'm always like this , I pick up external sensory input like it's my passive ability. It's even interesting when ESTP and INFJ are observing each other, I remember one time I caught an ESTP observing me at the wrong time and suddenly said I'm not doing any work while before he was observing me , I actually did the work. I think Se users know other people needs but they don't verify it by not asking other people about it especially Se-Ti users so they'll give excuse to not act upon it or even interesting they just afraid(projecting myself) they're going to give a bad experience.
all types are annoyed by beig taken advantage of although i think in this case still si users are going to be more annoyed cause they already do not want to be the needed one but they did and then they are not even wanted , se users will like that you depend on them and can keep up with it for longer but if there is no return for any other function not just ni they will be annoyed , in your case fe and loyalty .
Chase, have you looked into Pat Stedman and his thoughts on how to attract women and have successful relationships? He has a similar view to yours regarding integrating alpha and beta behavior.
@@CSJoseph I guess he is “purple pill” but he goes really deep into the psychology of men and women and how they should each go about working through things like trauma. He talks about jungian psychology at length but not necessarily through the lens of MBTI
I was told I was a class C wife, not a soulmate btw-I’m ENFP. But, I put out every dam day even Tho I was told I wasn’t a soulmate. So, now I know soulmates are b.s. I’m asking , Is God a soulmate? Sidebar, I have had many partners, however, I stayed single trying to protect myself from not going through inconsiderate partner syndrome again. Only closest connection has been ENTJ. I keep climbing the ladder as I get older, lol.
Do you think there could be an Ne-Ni component going on with this too? For example, an Ni woman might temporarily stop 'wanting' the Ne hero man if he is acting undersirable in some way (e.g. Si inferior addictions or laziness etc). She may not fully communicate this, instead only say no to sex etc. Then the Si inferior man withdraws his attention due to this. Its a bit of a vicious cycle. I think the Ni user ends up losing because they are may be less likely to leave due to fear of abandonment etc. I wonder how the Ni user can best communicate that they need to Si user to be more desirable without it being offensive cause conflict
This person is being very respectful. I will be less respectful and “spit it out”. This is the problem. but you weren’t listening nor observing the million times prior. How many times did you do the exact same actions that you project so proudly on the Templar mirror? I admire your strength to stand up for your beliefs but make sure they are your beliefs and not your comfort only given your anecdote about your father and your 20s and how long it takes for you to listen. what would happen if you would take full responsibility with a templar, and offer a do over? you would be unstoppable and strong and truly admirable. and if the Ti is higher in an Ni/Se woman, I think a literal war would be going on because the Ni Is not going to leave easily but the higher Ti is not going to put up with the bologna. look at ESTP Logan Paul for example. He seeks revenge and Admits he lacks kindness and awareness and empathy of others , and also people don’t stay around with him either. and the people like Andy when he was in Italy who platformed him and educated him with culture told him how he was self-absorbed…George Janko on impulsive is trying to do the same thing in another way. But Logan just keeps cycling through people. So it is a mystery how to keep up with the bright Mavericks but they are so compelling and good for us. They are worth figuring it out and don’t think you don’t have a part in it. Interestingly Logan also admits he is lonely, sad, and wants a wife and children badly. Recently he has a girlfriend but doesn’t seem convinced he’s found a family yet in her from questions he asks drunk and high to other guys on podcasts not his own. So dinging your past vacuous yet healing hole, what if family is key to maturing the wiles of an ESTP…and you reject the way in by thinking it takes from your freedom and will and comfort. Share yourself and what you want with the mirror, including speaking through the discomfort and pushing through with the strength of idealism before you shift blame threaten and give up! I think an STPs need very direct communication…who will break the stalemate?
Wow this is so accurate. When I feel like I’m being taken for granted by friends, I just disappear without explanation and never look back. I don’t bother with confrontation.
Omds this LITERALLY happened to me today. My ENTJ friend has been taking advantage of me, so I was ignoring all his calls 🤣 I was like nope
I'm the same./ enfp/
ENFP here with an ENTP friend. Whenever we talk about relationships, I talk about how it is important to explain everything to that other person, whereas she always points out how it's something that should be natural and not talked about. Now I completely understand why, thank you.
When it comes to Si inferior, you can see how we respond the same when someone makes us feel uncomfortable, especially in social situations. We will likely pretend we don't exist at that moment, since neither of us likes to put up with Se heros or Ti heros. I value harmony and understanding, she values truth and an open mind above all, and we get non of that, only stubbornness and possibly yelling. Also, us having Ne doesn't help, since it seems no one understands us, so everything becomes even more frustrating.
It surprises but encourages me that both of you can’t put up with se hero as hearing this video made my se inferior feel very insecure and I wondered how se inferiors could be more compatible than those with stronger se
Actually, as an ENFP, I don't have much problems with Ti heroes. I actually find them pleasant most of the time. However, immature Te doms, especially ESTJ, are overbearing and I usually just ignore them whenever they try to bully me. I don't get along with most Se heroes but at least they are not bullies as Te heroes.
spot on. enfp here.
si inferior makes me want to take time away from the world and fill up that si.
worse than neglecting your needs for me is when they CHANGE your needs.
they start telling you what music you like and so on.
then into the fortress of solitude i go.
have a nice day and remember :
train S.E and you will feel amazing )
Csj is only person that can sit on a swing, feeling cool, whislt working, all at the same time.
Damn straight
Good video. Pretty straightforward. Se Demon: everything is about coping. Don’t be neglectful, don’t take him for granted, don’t make him feel unsafe or uncomfortable, don’t be inconsiderate. Should be easy… you’d think. So far I’m doing a good job with my Si Inferior man because he’s giving me lots of attention. I plan on continuing to be my best for him because if he ever took his attention away and gave it to someone else, it would feel like I’m dying.
What’s your type I might ask?
You hit the nail on the head with this one. Sometimes I wish I could take care of my needs better and not rely on others so much. The Battleground of Inhibition is truly well named.
Good thing I stocked up on copium during the pandemic
That explains a lot, thanks for the detailed response!
This makes soo much sense. Explains why there’s 3 guys in my life I’m more drawn to, my bf is trying to figure out what my needs are. Now he’s asking more questions
Useful as usual 🙂 Thank you.
You probably know it, but I still want to add that the dynamics at play act on multiple levels simultaneously so a perceived Se-Si problem also has Ne-Ni correlation, not just (as you mentioned) as a consequence but also possibly as a cause. Meaning that every Ne output affects the Ni meaning of the relationship and the therefore the willpower for any Se moves, and so on, who’s to say where it started? Even though Si will be more easy to explain and track than the Ni existing pattern/meaning, I’m not sure anyone should be so simplistically blamed. Maybe it’s best if instead of blame we focus on awareness of the dynamics itself.
From my perception as a Ni user, Ne presented choices can range between salvation or doomsday, if these choices don’t align with one’s Fi or Ti values then internal conflict begins. I’ll choose but I won’t see myself in those choices. Dealing with Ni is not just about presenting choices, it’s also about being aware if Ni (similarly to Si:) is comfortable with those choices.
It’s all about communication yes, not just of needs and wants but also values and goals.
As much as Se needs to give a good experience to Si, Ne needs to present a good dream/possible outcome for Ni to be inspired.
I appreciate hearing from the opposite side of the spectrum. Thank you so much for this input, it will prove vital to me in future circumstances. 🕊🙏🏽
Yeh this makes sense and I am married to an ENFP. Thanks for the info.
Dude, you're rocking the mbti world. Quite literally. -ENTP
A video on making Si parent comfortable could be cool as well.
Si parent just need to know that they cannot automatically where things go like Si hero can, but they can actually choose a better place for things than Si hero
what’s your type?
I've always thought alot of the alpha betta stuff was bs. Good explanation on it. Because really you have to be masculine yes but gentle with women as well. And yes there needs matter. I'm learning this just through being friends with a esfj woman. I've learned alot.
With Isj and inp women… you need to be full on alpha but with esjs and enps… you need to be mostly alpha but bit beta too.
They do need space... your own.
Damn. I know I've had a hard time determining whether or not my type is this and that, but if ENPs get hurt as much as my (as far as I know) Ti inferior gets hurt when not being heard out, reality sounds absolutely painful. It's honestly already uncomfortable enough with Se critic. Can't imagine with Si inferior/Se demon.
I feel the same with being listened to. If someone isn't willing to hear out my thoughts when it's my greatest need, I'll gladly reach out to someone else that does.
you nail it everytime chase 🔥
Out of nowhere, your sunglasses gloves reminds me the fashion designer Karl and Coco Chanel is an intj.
Dang ... how many Police cars drive by that spot on any given day. I've seen multiple drive-by in one video
Although I know you say Se users are suitable for me as an ENFP. I find that XSFJ provide me with the comfort, thoughtfulness & care I need as apposed to any Se user in my life because SFJs have high Si so they observe my behavior & can cater to it easily & always make me feel looked after, loved & cared for ♥️
I stole my ENTP boyfriend from this disrespectful ISFP woman. Constantly berated and screamed at him despite him paying her rent and supporting her.
The moment I came in the picture he deserted her overnight. Moved his shit while she was at work and said good luck with life. It's crazy what a respectful woman does to a man.
whats your type
I'm a infj in a golden pair relationship with a trans male enfp i showed him the enfp season 19 episode and needed a few hours of alone time could definitely see that Si inferior needs space when they're uncomfy, he absolutely needs space being uncomfy but the rest of the time he's his whack no ti having person but still draws me in day by day sorry forthe little NF paragraph that probably means nothing but thanks for another awesome video!!
i think thats good as long as the other one who needs a lot of space isn't always the one incharge of deciding when you guys should be spending time. Cuz at some point its gonna feel like you only spend time together when they want it and when they dont you have to leave. And your needs arent as important in that manner
@@aladdout9454 yeah we live together so he doesnt get to much of a choice but see and spend time with me it's quite a bit 😂 but healthiest relationship I've ever been in and that to me is awesome cause I've seen so much improvement in myself in a lot of areas but he's caused a lot of growth in just a year and a half and he has too for himself i feel like as long as two people are happy and growing together it's all worth it! Thank you for the reply tho!
@@jordanbickford294 this gives me hope lol. I'm happy to hear that. Honestly i think golden pairs actually cause the most growth not pedagogue. I had the opposite view before.
@@aladdout9454 im glad it gives you hope! Its pretty crazy actually everywhere we go it's as if the world is routing for us people always say we got like a glow and with goals we constantly make and succeed its nice feeling like a actual partnership! We do enable eachother tho and can cause small setbacks id say that's the biggest issue😂
@@jordanbickford294 honestly with all the hype in hustle culture and obsession with self improvement, I'm not sure whats enabling vs. deeply loving someone anymore...just a big ol hole in spirituality i assume and obsessing over perfection and disapproving of "words of affirmation" as a love language I suppose
This is the reason i joined this channel, i fell back enxps one even had a gang which he had extremely active for 2 years at me and still has followers targeted at me in the background i.e. one is an ESFPs between the parent and grandparent stage
Thanks for the video Chase! Helpful and useful. ( Sometimes I go back into the csj library to try and figure out what's happening. Pessimistic functions and needs aren't being meet.)
I noticed my ex would do this at times. I wanted to fulfill her needs but I felt like mine wasn't being up either. How do an si child deal with an ENFP who doesn't speak up before its too late?
Why speak up when it’s too uncomfortable to do so?
Lmao sounds like sarcasm but I'll bite. Because embracing the uncomfortable can lead to better outcomes.
@@SkillOPill or what he meant was that si child is incapable of making an enfp comfortable.
@@pinklasagna8328 I get the correlation but I was able to do it for 2 years prior despite having SE trickster. It was really hard to bring up the hard topics that would hurt her feelings. I guess it was doomed to fail
@@pinklasagna8328 but we dont know if this infp really tried or not. What if the infp tried with everything they had even developed their Se? Its then the enfps fault for not meeting the infp halfway
you know what you are talking about , I relate as an Si inferior...congrats
Say the se user has already neglected the si inferior’s needs, and si user has already withdrawn, is there a way for the se user to fix this ? Im trying to salvage a current relationship ! - if possible… 😢
Chase hold on! Hopefully things work out!
I would suggest putting on a show and being extra dramatic with the ESTP while showing that you are about to leave your home. This will help the ESTP learn how they would feel if you left + how serious the whole thing is. They need to envision it in order to put in the effort and do what you want to keep your needs met
istp not estp here but still no this will make us kind of laugh even if we care dont do that it will ruin things
If Te is the function of understanding, do Te trickster and demon have the minimal capacity to understand shit?
Also if I go out of my way to understand something via the use of as many inquiries, as I can as an ISTP, does that mean my Te is on a pathway to becoming an Ally or is that to be considered a standard and nothing I should be that proud of?
Yes they struggle
@@CSJoseph what about my 2nd question?
Also---I really liked the point about the thing that red pill neglects about beta males/masculine idealism.
Si user may be better observant if they put attention towards other people and they have the attention span but sometimes they don't for some reason probably because they already predict what would happen after they have already been with the person for awhile which can be false because they need to balance their attention between themselves and others , Se user by default will always focus on other people and remember other people experiences, I even remember what my friend did years ago like the most random thing . As an Se inferior, I always observe other people constantly even to the point people are not aware that I'm passively listening to them while I'm talking to other people or doing my own thing and with my Ne nemesis I always notice the same pattern of behaviors though the pattern can be different at times . I'm just interested in what people are doing to the point I just pick up what they're doing without puting a lot of effort into it .When I bring up something that they just talked about with another person , they'll just ask me how do I know because they're like 5-10 meters away and sometimes even further away from me. People sometimes even ask me for other people secrets because I know a lot of other people secret because of that ability to observe people passively. I just said to them I'm always like this , I pick up external sensory input like it's my passive ability. It's even interesting when ESTP and INFJ are observing each other, I remember one time I caught an ESTP observing me at the wrong time and suddenly said I'm not doing any work while before he was observing me , I actually did the work. I think Se users know other people needs but they don't verify it by not asking other people about it especially Se-Ti users so they'll give excuse to not act upon it or even interesting they just afraid(projecting myself) they're going to give a bad experience.
You got so excited talking and explaining, with a burning cigar in your hand which at one point you aimed at yourself, I was worried 😕
Is there any possible way to get INFP to care about acknowledge my Si inferior? Please help 😅
what is your type I’m an infp
From se trickster , probably no
Función SI y FE aléjense de mi :3
what if someone is annoyed by people needing them and not wanting? does that make them Ni user?
all types are annoyed by beig taken advantage of although i think in this case still si users are going to be more annoyed cause they already do not want to be the needed one but they did and then they are not even wanted , se users will like that you depend on them and can keep up with it for longer but if there is no return for any other function not just ni they will be annoyed , in your case fe and loyalty .
Chase, have you looked into Pat Stedman and his thoughts on how to attract women and have successful relationships? He has a similar view to yours regarding integrating alpha and beta behavior.
He’s not purple pill?
@@CSJoseph I guess he is “purple pill” but he goes really deep into the psychology of men and women and how they should each go about working through things like trauma. He talks about jungian psychology at length but not necessarily through the lens of MBTI
Kool video
Kill it like always!!
I was told I was a class C wife, not a soulmate btw-I’m ENFP. But, I put out every dam day even Tho I was told I wasn’t a soulmate. So, now I know soulmates are b.s.
I’m asking , Is God a soulmate?
Sidebar, I have had many partners, however, I stayed single trying to protect myself from not going through inconsiderate partner syndrome again. Only closest connection has been ENTJ. I keep climbing the ladder as I get older, lol.
14:10
Purple pill mindset
😳
Do you think there could be an Ne-Ni component going on with this too? For example, an Ni woman might temporarily stop 'wanting' the Ne hero man if he is acting undersirable in some way (e.g. Si inferior addictions or laziness etc). She may not fully communicate this, instead only say no to sex etc. Then the Si inferior man withdraws his attention due to this. Its a bit of a vicious cycle. I think the Ni user ends up losing because they are may be less likely to leave due to fear of abandonment etc. I wonder how the Ni user can best communicate that they need to Si user to be more desirable without it being offensive cause conflict
Just spit it out
This person is being very respectful. I will be less respectful and “spit it out”. This is the problem. but you weren’t listening nor observing the million times prior. How many times did you do the exact same actions that you project so proudly on the Templar mirror?
I admire your strength to stand up for your beliefs but make sure they are your beliefs and not your comfort only given your anecdote about your father and your 20s and how long it takes for you to listen. what would happen if you would take full responsibility with a templar, and offer a do over? you would be unstoppable and strong and truly admirable.
and if the Ti is higher in an Ni/Se woman, I think a literal war would be going on because the Ni Is not going to leave easily but the higher Ti is not going to put up with the bologna. look at ESTP Logan Paul for example. He seeks revenge and Admits he lacks kindness and awareness and empathy of others , and also people don’t stay around with him either. and the people like Andy when he was in Italy who platformed him and educated him with culture told him how he was self-absorbed…George Janko on impulsive is trying to do the same thing in another way. But Logan just keeps cycling through people. So it is a mystery how to keep up with the bright Mavericks but they are so compelling and good for us. They are worth figuring it out and don’t think you don’t have a part in it.
Interestingly Logan also admits he is lonely, sad, and wants a wife and children badly. Recently he has a girlfriend but doesn’t seem convinced he’s found a family yet in her from questions he asks drunk and high to other guys on podcasts not his own.
So dinging your past vacuous yet healing hole, what if family is key to maturing the wiles of an ESTP…and you reject the way in by thinking it takes from your freedom and will and comfort. Share yourself and what you want with the mirror, including speaking through the discomfort and pushing through with the strength of idealism before you shift blame threaten and give up! I think an STPs need very direct communication…who will break the stalemate?