Bloodlust: The Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run
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The fact that his victims were probably killed by the decapitation itself makes this case a unique brand of unfathomably horrifying. I hope they weren’t able to know it was coming.
When you die in that manor, you definitely know what’s happening. Decapitation the way he probably did it with a knife is NOT quick and the fact he had time to hide these people & chop them up implies they were probably already either kidnapped or coaxed into some position where they couldn’t fight back.
My father was from Cleveland and grew up during these murders. He told me about the Torso Killer aka Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run while I was a kid. I've been to Kingsbury Run aka "The Flats." Thought it's different nearly 90 years later, it's still gives an eerie vibe there. I'm so glad that this case is getting more recognition and exposure. People talk about Jack the Ripper, Bundy, Gacy, Dahmer, BTK, Kemper, Green River Killer, The Night Stalker, and H.H. Holmes all the time. But few know the brutality of the Original Torso Killer.
Edit: I'd like to add that this TH-camr did a DAMN good job on her research for this particular case. I've following this case for 37 years now and she's basically retrieved all the information she possibly could. I have the privilege to being related to someone who was alive and there when this was happening. So I've known about all this for a while. And can confirm that her research and details are SPOT ON!
Also, there's an episode of Unsolved Mysteries where they covered the case of the Black Dahlia murder. It aired back in the '90s. But some suspected that her murderer may have been committed by the Torso Killer. The episode is somewhere on YT. Go check it out.
Re-edit: Nevermind, I found it for you: th-cam.com/video/Te1DACbFVjE/w-d-xo.html You're Welcome.
I lived in the flats for a while! Right by center street bridge. Boy I sure seen my share of floaters in the river..
no matter what they do, the flats will always be creepy. I remember in my 20s hearing about people disappearing in the lake and their body never being found.
I don't think DC deserves her work to be demeaned like you did Wade.
My father was a young man in the 20' and 30's. He hopped a freight train from Oklahoma (The Dust Bowl) and rode to California (Land of Milk & Honey). He and his cousin spent 3 weeks living on oranges and trying to find work before hopping a train back home. Very hard years....he was enthralled with Elliott Ness and the Untouchables for their takedown of AL Capone.
I think this crime was the one final crime that ended Elliott Ness' career. I had always heard it ended in shame for him and he was devastated.
Norma wouldn't you wonder how our father's managed during hard times? You know when they are teens and off on their own through circumstance or choice.
His take down for tax evasion? That's like being enthralled with the takedown of El Chapo for unpaid parking tickets lol
@@brandonhinrichs4393 Yeah well, her father had a hard-scrabble life where he had to take perilous risks and survive tough circumstances, so perhaps he had his own valid reasons for his perspectives about his era…
Unlike, say, today - where being yet another soft, snarky, craven, unfunny digital-“culture” edgelord boi is socially rewarded for pathetic reasons, huh…
Neat story thanks.
The fact that there's only two people confirmed to be identified and the other is not confirmed yet makes this all even worse... Not even in death they were identified... Rest in peace
This is the case that haunted Eliot Ness. It's the one case he couldn't solve.
Eliot Mess.
He said he did solve it. It just wasn't made public.
@@johnf.kennedy5454 True. But nobody was ever prosecuted.
@@bettyjames4155 Some have thought it was the son of someone prominent who was put away in an asylum. If true i think that he would have been lobotimized. The powerful thought that a criminal trial would only hurt them.
@@bettyjames4155 There are quite a few books out there on the murders. I don't remember the name of the one I read in the early 2000s. I first learned of it in the Cleveland newspaper Plain Dealer. It was some anniversary of the murders and they reprint several of the photos of the victims and investigators. Bad times.
I'm surprised this serial killer is not more well known. To me this is one of the scarier serial killings cases. True horror material here. Way more terrifying than Jack the Ripper.
Jack is overrated. Brutal, but overrated. The Mad Butcher of Kingsbury? God damn. No barrels hold.
Probably not well known because he killed poor people from a poor area. If he hadn't been so sensational with the dumping of the victims we may never have heard about it at all.
@@runlarryrun77A lot of serial killers kill the poor and we know about it. Jack the ripper targeted poor prostitutes. I think what you say about location may be a bigger factor. But still these murders are so gruesome I'm surprised they ain't more well known.
Makes JTR look normal in comparison.
So....he just....evicted the people in the middle of the night and then burnt down all of their homes?! That's insane!😧
I wonder if are any stories or interviews out there from any of those people who lost their homes.
If I remember correctly, he then arrested them for homelessness. Some say it was to get fingerprints in case any of them died at the Butchers hand.
Crazy right?!?
Just for clarification I think it was all shanty town buildings or abandoned buildings with squatters in, he seemed to believe the killer may have been homeless or targeting people from there and by dispersing them may save them and/or end the killings
@@VincoVenator Well, Obviously He Was Wrong.
These homes were not legal homes any longer. Most were just shacks built by people to create a shelter. The city had declared the area to be demolished.
His dismemberment of his victims puts him up there with the most brutal serial killers and it almost seemed personal with how he castrated and decapitated a lot of his victims
I thought it was the Holmes fella, there has to be more of these guys, that got away with it. Do you listen to the twin sister "Kirsty Skye" as well? Fantastic girls the two of them.
Most serial killers don’t dismember their victims, they dump them. Dismemberment is usually a personal crime where victim and murderer know each other.
@@finolaomurchu8217 I don't think Holmes. He had too much experience. You can tell this killer didn't have a lot of practical experience bc of the failed chemical aspect of the first two bodies. He was trying to do...SOMETHING. And didn't know what the effect of the chemical would actually be. I feel like Holmes would have just thrown the body in the nearest furnace and been done with it. He didn't have the Fs to give about playing with the dead body. He wanted them GONE and their money in his hand.
@@finolaomurchu8217 Also...Holmes killed for money and notoriety. Very Machiavellian. These people in this case have NO MONEY. They are vagrants. This is someone who is comfortable sleeping rough/homeless. Different class of person.
@@lowrider81hd Yeah that's true. I'd say furthest most go would probably getting rid of fingers/hands for identification purposes.
I was just over in that area and the remains of a bridge that used to cross over Kingsbury Run can still be seen. It's actually a creek bed that was carved out by glaciers during the last ice age.
I love the piano background music. It's completely unique to this channel, and in my head, will always be connected to Dark Curiosities- no matter where else I hear it in the future!
isnt it guitar?
@@madcatt09 Haha, yes it is! I had a total brain fart when I typed that. Thanks for pointing that out! 👍
Yes! I completely associate this music with Dark Curiosities, I really like it… Feels like it wouldn’t be the same without it. :)
@@A.Girl.Has.No.Name. the opening is guitar. The main background music is piano and it’s a free use track that 99% of TH-camrs uploading “creepy” topics use lol
@@A.Girl.Has.No.Name. lol no worries i had to hear it again to make sure 😂
Whoever did this definitely had a storage place or a unit. The draining of the bodies and the delays in the deaths and placement of them makes that clear. This guy was a professional.
Like an old timey Dexter
No one is ever going to know, so . . . I’m just gonna file this under “SPECULATION, Pure, Nothing But.”
@@windwoman3549 File it where you like. Its fact. Learn how to do research and winkle the FACTS and go from there. The facts are there wasn't as many automobiles back then, the bodies were dissected professionally and drained of blood in most cases. The delay between murders and dumping of bodies. He showed extraordinary skills in anatomy and was never caught. So how would he beable to do that ?? Speculate that ?
I remember someone once theorizing that the Kingsbury butcher was Jack the Ripper. But given the time period difference I sincerely doubt it. I think the killer did work in the medical profession though.
@@liviavallendenez NOPE. Nothing alike in minutiae or MO
This is one of the best presentations on this case, since you covered all the facets of it, the personalities involved and the horror, but with gentleness. Too many accounts are gory for sensationalism. Ness really could not abide failure. He burned his failure to the ground.
Congratulations on a thorough and highly-detailed presentation of this notorious case. I can remember when the Torso Slayer was covered on "Unsolved Mysteries" back in the 90s, with Robert Stack himself detailing how the case had derailed Elliott Ness's career, a fact that naturally hit home quite a bit for him.
The theory of Dr. Francis's guilt was prtesented in that episode of the show, but much more vaguely, because his name hadn't been publicized yet. This uncertainty about Ness's supposed favorite subject allowed many theorists to speculate by connecting this unknown (at the time) suspect to other crimes, like a now-disfavored theory connecting the Torso Slayer to the Black Dahlia case.
I was just thinking how much this sounded like the BD case from the mutilation, to the disposal/“dumping” method. I wonder why it is disfavored now?
ETA: I see now it’s because of Dr. Sweeney!
Yes I read a book awhile ago that compared the MOs of Jack and the Dahlia killer.
I saw a documentary years ago about the Black Dahlia and one of the people who studied the case believed that it likely was the same killer as the Cleveland cases. They are very similar and the killer having not been caught, could easily have been in CA at that time. I thought it was a pretty good theory.
@@EvilSpoofAuthor it was a good theory but proved to be false.
I don't know who you are, but your voice, accent and speech rhythms all serve to enhance these compelling stories! Bravo!
Scottish 👍🏻🏴
Her sister has a channel which is very good and quite similar, name of Kirsty Skye.
Her voice is truly intoxicating! Not in a psycho stalker way, just a perfect narration voice. 👍
@@TheNuckinFoob Come to Scotland, there’s a few of us like that 😂
She is Scott
Blessings to all
The street behind me is Kingsbury but it's changed a lot since then. Residential area now. We heard all these stories growing up. It was a patch of "woods" they said was a crime scene and wouldn't clear out because bones were still being found years later.
I stay right across kinsman on 98th, heard the same stories growing up
It's nice to hear about something else that Elliot Ness worked on.
Thank you 😌
You are the only TH-camr that has covered this case (that I’ve seen) that has mentioned the African American victim. I find this interesting because most serial killers kill others in their own race. Just something interesting
This killer also killed both men and women which is also highly unusual
@@pickledragonrebel Exactly what I was thinking, the fact the killer targeted both males and females in these seemingly sexually motivated murders is highly rare and unusual
The decapitation, draining of blood, heart/organ/limb removal and castration could also suggest a ritual element, it's common in human sacrifices practiced by "muti-magic" practitioners, which, are often done for financial gain, and considering this was during the great depression well....I'll leave you to speculate on that.
Not true...
I first read about this case in Reader's Digest when I was a kid. I wonder if these murders were ritualistic as someone else pointed out. Especially given that the methods of beheading and organ removal were greatly used. The latter similar to the Whitechapel murders.
you might be the only person in the world who can make a video about someone called "The Mad Butcher" and it be relaxing
Well this puts Jack the Ripper into the lower leagues of serial killers for sure. This was a very professional production told in a clear and logical way and very interesting; I have subscribed. You also have that lovely Scots accent which is perfect for story telling. Thank you
I really haven't heard anything about this case before. This is so well done. You have this God given Gift of being able to fully immerse the viewer into a case file 🗃️ story, era, vibe. Bravo 👏🏻
Best yet IMHO, in depth research but WHAT a convoluted situation.
Thanks so much to you.
Thank you this case was gruesome for sure I had never heard about this one before, well done.
I’m from cleveland so as a fan of true crime, I’ve grown up with this story but I haven’t seen many TH-camrs make a video about it, at least not any good ones. You’re one of my favorite true crime TH-camrs so im glad you did it. You should also look into the “Beverly Potts disappearance”, another cleveland true crime mystery.
Love this case. Love it when you do the longer stories. Also sometimes called The Cleveland Torso Murders.
What a story! So well done too, this one was really a treat. Thanks so much for all you do
A few yrs back, my ex and I went to a Cleveland baseball game and before the game we had an hour and a half to kill and we ate at The Great Lakes Brewing Co. where Florence Polillol was found on the grounds. You could feel there was some restless spirit moving around the building. Its definitely a place to check out if you're passing through Cleveland or staying in town. I myself am 35 mins from Cleveland in Canton and we have some of our own creepy and unsolved murders from the past and mafia connections back in the day as Canton was once called "Little Chicago"
Vry informative 👌 ty kindly
My father is from Canton.
@@hollyfarr7209 You're quite welcome
@@scottharkovitch3139 That's cool, unfortunately Canton has seen better days as I'm always told by family members how nice it used to be here in the 60's/70's. The city is trying to have a revival in a sense but I don't think The Football Hall Of Fame is an important draw and don't think the soon to be Hall Of Fame Village will make that much of a difference. Hopefully something can turn this place around somehow
That's an excellent story and yes I feel for all the victims especially the ones that were never identified. He like to pick up people down on their luck such as homeless people prostitutes etc, a typical predator. It's just unfortunate the horrible crimes this animal done that he was never arrested or rather he might have been arrested for another crime but he was never identified for that crime
I had heard about this before but your video was much better with mor details. Well done.
Interesting fact a similar crime took place here in the UK on the River Thames in London that took place more than 30 years after the Cleveland Torso Murders
I'm wondering does those crime happen in UK because following what the Cleveland torso murders did?
@@felixdom9693 it's unlikely that they're connected
@@felixdom9693 it's unlikely that they're connected
The Thames Torso Murders took place in the same era as JTR, in London.
A really well done episode, grim in every aspect but obviously well researched.
Congrats DC, this is an epic telling of these horrific crimes. You told this in such a captivating way, great imagery and research - I think this is in your Top 3 best for sure.
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Amazing! You did such a wonderful job.
I think the first person that got the name of a serial killer was H H Holmes in 1900 the world's fair in Chicago Illinois. Thanks for your story.
By contrast, I believe that actual TERM was coined by FBI profiler Robert Ressler in the 20th century, as cited in several books.
Nope. Serial killer is a term coined by Robert Ressler. It wasn’t ever used before that. Now it’s wildly misused every day by people that don’t actually understand what the term specifically means.
Jack the Ripper preceded this in 1880's and I think the term used by Bobbies was multiple killer.
@@aye70aye yes but I thought she said in the USA but maybe I heard wrong. Thank you.
H H Holmes wasn't considered a serial killer until many many years later after the term was coined. At the time he was active the term wasn't used at all.
Was definitely a dig at Elliot Ness too. Untouchable. Literally.
Never heard that one before! Great presentation!
I’m from CLE and my parents were Great Gen, told me all about this case! VERY well done video, thanks!
Omg! What a story! You done a fantastic job!
You have done or you did a great job. Get it right.
How awful! I appreciate your hard work.
Had not heard of this case before, but found it both fascinating and horrifying!
Thank you so much for another new tale. Happy Halloween 🎃.
Holy cow, this killer makes Jack The Ripper and H.H Holmes look like boy scouts.
There are way gruesome killings of serial killer but for some reason Jack the Ripper is so famous
@@tamaramcrae4037because of the medias (newspaper) involvement.
Most of what we hear about HH Holmes is BS.
@@galesal1109 surely some of it must be true
@@galesal1109 And the overall mysterious and dark attitude people have towards victorican london.
EXCELLENT program! Thank you😃
Just discovered your channel and already enjoying and appreciate your videos. Very interesting stories brought to light. Just as an aside, earlier this week I learned about why women were often prescribed hysterectomies, thanks to a documentary from the UK about hormones, where they covered that in addition to how many first treatments were invented as a process of science trying to understand our hormone systems and endocrinology. Just an aside, but I love it when different channels magically overlap with information
Thank you. Smiles and joy.
Isn't this the case that ruined Elliot Ness' career?
Unfortunately yes. I feel kinda sorry for the guy.
@@scottieman2 you wouldn't feel sorry for him if he'd burned your house to the ground for, apparently, no good reason.
@@scottieman2 Feel sorry for him?! Wow, how about feeling sorry for all those poor men, women and children who were ripped from their homes in 1 night then watched as he burned all their homes down. Plus many were then arrested for being 'homeless' What a dick move, no sympathy warranted to Ness
You can't just build a shack wherever you want.
@@mjanny6330 exactly
I know, that the rules say, that they cant name a suspect publicly, even if theyre 1000% sure, its the right person, as long as they dont have the evidence to charge and prosecute them. But damn! I really wish, Ness had left some thorough files about it. Then again, maybe he did, and the FBI still have them.
How do you know he never did. .
He did not specifically name Sweeney, but as the video says, he implied very strongly and publicly that it was Sweeney.
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And I thought Jack the Ripper was bad. I heard he was the first killer classed as a serial killer. During his reign of terror there was also a Torso Murderer around in London. So sadly this type of thing is not that unusual. Very bad that peoples houses were destroyed on the orders of one man. Power went to his head. I hope that somehow they got compensated for they too were innocent victims of a mad man
What a story! Well narrated, real horror & gore disturbingly entertaining! Great upload 💯 🏴☠️
Thanks DC. Very detailed. 🙏💔🦌 Happy Halloween 🎃👻
Holy cow how have i never heard of this.
Excellent Work!!!! Well Done!!!! Thank You!!!! Stay Safe!!! Much Love!!!!👍😎😁🤘💙
Nothing has changed,look how Prince Andrew is living a life of freedom and luxury!!
eakkk, love when I see your stuff come up
Thanks!
I'm Surprised No One Ever Suspected A Butcher Could've Been The Killer.
Excellent work on this video. This case is both horrifying and fascinating. It does sound like it may have been the Dr.
Excellent reporting!
This is an absolutely insane case- can’t believe i’ve never heard of it!
Very well done. Thanks.
One thing I'd like to add that many viewers may have missed. The victims that the killer preyed on were homeless people, vagrants, and transients. This was smart because unidentified bodies are harder cases to solve (even today). Regular citizens are easier to pay attention to when they go missing. And Kingsbury Run back then consisted of rows of shanty towns or hobo shacks. They were basically makeshift houses similar to the cardboard box homes you see modern day homeless people living in today. So when she said Mess and his team burned down their shacks, that's exactly what they were, shacks and hobo homes, not actual houses.
Thank you. I've had problems finding decent, complete, free videos with information on this case. (Or at least, last time I ran a search on TH-cam.) I would be interested to see if there were matching crimes in other places than just Pennsylvania. I think in this one, killer probably died/killed shortly after. If they were riding the rails, they probably abused the WRONG person on the wrong day... maybe someone who ended up having a gun and weren't out of their mind drunk. Maybe a rail yard worker?
Ive not heard of this case. Horrifying but so intriguing !
Yay! Made my evening ❣
I'm so glad I checked my phone & to my delight a new video. I know it's going to be absolutely heartbreaking & maddening. I also know you're going to tell this horrific story with profound respect and compassion. The light you shone on all your videos is fantastic. 👍🏻👏🏼❤❤
RIP Angel's 🕊🌾💛
Could you please (if you haven't) do the story of "The youngest serial killer" 8y Amarjeet Sada. I believe from India. He killed infants & his own sister. Asking bcuz I only heard "bits and pieces" of this monster & idk whatever became of his "punishment." I know you'll do a thorugh job & I appreciate it. I love your channel so much I'm still bingeing it every night. I can't wait to watch your sisters in it's entirety.
Great job as always. Love from Philly. 😍🍷💙
God bless 👑🙏🏻🕊💛💛
Very detailed. Very interesting.
i guess you wouldn't have to now because image tech. is so advanced but can you imagine going to view a head that's been put out for public display on the off chance somebody mite recognize it? this was also during the same decade where JOHN DILLINGER and BONNIE AND CLYDE where also laid out as corpses fer the public to view.
very different times indeed.
Thank you although horrific. I had never heard of this case before
Thank You
This story is so fascinating that I can't believe how Hollywood hasn't turned this into a star studded block buster. Does anyone know if it was ever made into a movie?
Great video!
I have a book about this case, 'Torso', by John Blair, and a DVD 'The 14th Victim'. Both very good.
Look for the book Torso - I think the author is Steven Nickle
And now I fully understand what Tupac meant when he said "...Untouchable like Elliot Ness."
Hits your eardrums like a slug to your chest?
Offtopic but I am impresed that you pronounced "Doležal" corectly. Greetings from Czech Republic!
Well, that was suitably creepy to give me nightmares tonight, after I make sure all the doors and windows are locked. 😱
The Cleveland Torso killer which Elliot Ness pulled his hair out over. He cld never nail down the killer for an arrest. But God knows...Good job on doc. 👍
Great video 👍🏾!
It's quite sad when you see the poor man there, and all the tattoos. Very vulnerable in their own way. I really enjoyed that video thank you☘
There is no end to human evil and depravity.
There was a comic book released on the case back in 2000. Sadly, I was never able to get my hands on a copy but the case stuck in the back of my skull ever since I heard about it.
I live near the area and it's a real crazy case. Thanks for the interesting video.
This one gives me the creeps.
This one has always boggled the mind. The most mysterious case Ihave read. Makes Jack the Ripper look like a Lollipop man.
Hardly
@@cherylschantz9893 Jack the Ripper was a baby sitter compared to this guy.
I have a book about this. It has been one case I would like see solved.
It was such an odd happening at the time and no one saw anything.
The victims vary so it is difficult to know what the motive was.
I do believe Ness had the correct man however.
Its unfortunate he could not make a case.
The Rapid, our transit train, goes right through Kingsbury Run.
Wow!
She was dismembered so it would be fair to think she had been murdered 🙄 The lady in the lake was found in the river? Why not call her the lady in the river?
Dismemberment could be suicide. LOL. Actually suicide by train can dismember people.
@carlcushmanhybels8159 I doubt her torso would have been intact if a train took her out, and I doubt she walked to the river and jumped in on her own. It would be more likely that the railroad tracks would have been the place she would have been found and her head would be close by along with her legs. And the horrible way getting hit by a train does a body there would have been a mess plus the conductor would definitely have to report what happened. The way they found her and no head or legs makes it an obvious homicide.
You have the most wonderful voice and accent. Irish?
Well done!
The similarities between the MadButcher of Kingsbury Run and the Cleveland torso murderer are insane!!. So incredibly similar. It's believed he was the same person Who then moved to LA, California and killed the aspiring actress known as the Black Dahlia in the 1940s. It's possible. Elliot ness believed he knew who the murderer of These crimes were but he died before disclosing information. Were they all connected? I say yes most definitely. Was there more than one? Probably yes. So a surgeon or butcher or both did these vicious crimes.
You do realise that the Mad Butcher and the Cleveland Torso Killer are 2 different names given to the same person? They're not 2 different killers plus the prime suspect in The Black Dahlia is Dr George Hodel not Dr Francis Sweeney (Cleveland Torso Murders obvious culprit)
Same place, I thought.
Same murderer
@@JohntheLNERP2 I believe that's what he was saying.
@@raelenemaso3181 I don't think he is because both nicknames belong to the exact same killer they're not the nicknames of 2 individual killers
Whew. Am thinking the connection by rail is correct. Am also wondering if the relative may have been involved. Yes. I get that public figures sometimes gave rivals. Especially a possible crorked politician against a man who cut into his illegal profits durning the 20's and early 30's. As the police always say. You can not prosecute a person on supposition without concreat proof.
Thank you for posting this.
God bless
Creepy for Halloween
Never thought I’d hear your accent cover my area 😂
I'm in the midst of a great depression. My roaring twenties are long gone.
That was great, never heard of him before
Always amazed by how many American serial killers I’ve never heard of
I've always thought they should look for a mortician or a mortician's assistant or something like that I mean who else has embalming fluid especially back then where people didn't buy anything but what they had to have that was right during the Great depression.
Isn’t it unusual to have such a variety of “type” of victims? That is, different genders, ages, skin color, etc.
Great video, your content is consistently well put together and researched! Just a note regarding "hesitation marks" - the idea of those as they're used in pop culture has been largely discounted in the forensic field. The multi-mark pattern is seen as more indicative of just sloppy sawing/cutting, perhaps inexperience but not "hesitation" of the perpetrator. Hesitation marks refer to and were originally defined as self-inflicted wounds made during erm...extreme self-harm events often resulting in death, when the individual is perhaps not sure about committing the acts on themselves they're about to. It sorta got distorted as time went on. Sorry, am in the forensics field and couldn't resist mentioning. Not intended as a criticism, it's a common mix-up, just trying to spread the word!
Again, thanks for your consistently great content!!!
I've heard of this case a few times, but this was the first time I had a thought that maybe it was 2 or more separate people. It seems unlikely, but in the past there have been multiple serial killers in an area at the same time.
KY-a-ho-ga, or -hogga 😊. The river that was so polluted in the Seventies it caught fire!
Scary 😱
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