Julia Ioffe: Why Ukraine Invasion Is Europe’s 9/11 | Amanpour and Company
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- As efforts continue to find a diplomatic solution for the war in Ukraine, the majority of Russians reportedly support Putin’s plan. Russian-born American journalist Julia Ioffe is a founding partner at Puck News and speaks with Walter Isaacson about the future of Russia.
Originally aired on March 16, 2022
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Julia Ioffe is by far the most articulate & knowledgable journalist on these subjects in my humble opinion, Fantastic clear and concise delivery in depth & always in touch with the subjects past, present and future insights. She is my go-to journalist when it comes to Eastern Europe & Russia's past & present antics.
She has great knowledge but noones perfect i find Julia's american politics (internal) opinions quite shallow, also shes constantly scared about nuclear bombs not understanding the consequences it would bring for russia had they used one. Nuclear weapon is a threat not a weapon even in Putins hands. Regarding russia id also higly reccomend watching or reading Sasha Gessen's work shes also soviet born.
@@skandre7776 That is not what I am hearing here in Romania. Putin very likely will use a less than 1 kiloton nuke in Ukraine.
@@skandre7776 Masha Gesson provides incredible insight, I agree.
All the money Wallstreet is sucking out of Russian corporations & seizing of bank accounts , no wonder America wants to prolong the conflict in Ukraine, not to mention the high price oil & gas US will be selling to Europe will pay off alot of US debts, MAFIA mindset
Amanpour & her guests are the "echo chamber" of Washington, all one sided, we'll never hear the other side, don't forget it takes 2 to tango, with Amanpour one can tango alone, iraq WMD2 scenario is smelling very strong, anyone need a vial of anthrax? i mean laundry detergent (apologies for the miscue)
This woman knows. And her message is very, very depressing.
Welcome to Eastern European history and contemporary politics.
I am no expert, however, I am fairly certain that China has no interest in seeing the world descend into nuclear chaos, so I have to disagree with your post.
The war for freedom in Europe has already begun, and their leaders are in denial. They will fight the Russian war criminal now or they will fight him later, at a much higher cost.
@@patrickfitzgerald2861 absolutely true!
@@patrickfitzgerald2861 Oh, they are fighting, allright. Just not with kinetic weapons. I would not call that "in denial". Certainly not if a wipe out of civilisation can be prevented and still oust Putin from power.
Julia Ioffe manages to both fascinate me with her insightful, careful political analysis, and absolutely terrify me with her insightful, careful political analysis. Regardless, she's a tremendous asset as a journalist, and I'm thankful for her work.
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Agreed. Came here to say this. Like that she gives it to me raw dog, no lube, but god damnit it’s hard to deal w/ afterwards.
She’s a velvet glove wrapped around an iron fist when it comes to giving us the truth about that lil Russian man.
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Agreed! I try to watch/listen to to anything she is on
this left woke nonsense is so creepy there was a donbass genocide the genocide ukraine comitted there is ignored by the wokke
It's always enlightening when legitimately intelligent people interview even more intelligent people that are experts in their field!
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That was one impressive and intelligent lady.
I’m a fan of this interviewer
The Ukrainian war planned and prepared by the the same people as 9/11.
Very impressed by this intelligent lady with a lot of background knowledge!
It is always a pleasure to hear Julia Ioffe's thoughts on Russia.
*see
She's the best !
Yeah... but to out loud what many others are probably also thinking.... She is intelligent... but also very pretty.
It’s SIMPolooza today in the comment section
The Ukrainian war planned and prepared by the the same people as 9/11.
In an environment of talking heads, it’s so refreshing to hear someone as intelligent and knowledgable and articulate as Julia Ioffe. She’s like a female Christopher Hitchens.
High praise indeed.
I totally agree with your parallel!
Oh I miss Christopher Hitchens
I do not agree. She is certainly knowledgeable but to compare the current situation to Afghanistan is misleading a doesn't take into account the money and manpower it takes not only overwhelm the Ukrainians but also maintain an occupying presence. She is right that this is a 9/11 moment for Europeans...
No, she is not. She is a leftist democrat who spins the news in favor of the left.
She is by far the most knowledgeable the most educated person in American political spectrum who understands Russia, Russian political landscape.
5 stars.
Because she is Russian)))!
⭐⭐⭐⭐🌟
Ultimately, if the Russian people were totally behind this war, they wouldn't have to be threatened with 15 years in jail for expressing anything other than total support.
@@mrmister7597 thanks for the example of an argument of false equivalencies
@@mrmister7597 Examples?
@@mrmister7597 Really!! have you not been paying attention to whats going on mask or unmask.
Rarely are the people of any nation 'totally behind' any national action, particularly war.
The Ukrainian war planned and prepared by the the same people as 9/11.
It is meaningless to negotiate with someone who never respects an agreement. Russia is negotiating to win time but they will not give up their absurd goals of crushing one sovereign country after the other.
Very good point. I am for pressing putin and his oligarchs economically until real concessions are made regarding his hideous war on the people and quality of life in Ukraine. No reason to release yachts and free assets unless and until real, concrete progress in peace for Ukraine and freedom from putin's intimidation is achieved. Liquidate yachts, bank accounts, and other assets to pay reparations to Ukraine, IF it is able to be free of putin and his puppets.
I thought the off ramp thing was viable, but the more I look into it, the more it seems like we need something like a coalition to go in and destroy the Russian forces, until they are ordered to leave. 😕
And Putin must see zero gain/benefit from his crime! Democracy worldwide is doomed if the authoritarian tyrant is permitted to invade a sovereign nation & commit horrendous war crimes 🙄 Learn from history (our refusal to act in 2014 etc etc) is what has caused Putin to be emboldened & do this! History proves if you do not stand up to & crush a bully, they only get worse & sadly we are just delaying the inevitable, period, full stop! :o(
Jofee is a horrible human being.
She is a pathological narcissistic liar.
This is the same person who tried to lend credence to the trump/russia collusion lies.
She is nothing more than a 'personality' if even that much.
Nobody respects agreements, even UN does not do that, what is respected is biiig gun, even bigger is better.
Julia loffe has to be one of the most interesting historians of our time. Think she's fantastic. She has my support and appreciation for her brave intelligent knowledge and awareness.
She is just a journalist and her surname is Ioffe with an I not an L.
@@argh6666 lol and you are just someone on boobtoob with a funny name.
Yeah she’s brilliant. Not just another journalist.
Yes she talks so calm and easy and pretty
Operation Mockingbird 2022.
This is far worse than 9/11
Because of 9/11, hundreds of thousands of civilians died by bombings by the US in iraq. So 9/11 is far worse.
@@foreveryoung999 Over 1 Mil I heard. ( But this ain't over ) it has the potential of being far worse then it is so far.
@@foreveryoung999 You realize your logic failure, right?
What an interesting observation. And, you are right. Invading Ukraine is a terrible, unprovoked attack on Ukraine but it is a devastating slap in the face to Europe. We cannot back down.
Unprovoked?? Have ever read a book?
@@pensatoreseneca it's unprovoked. Otherwise, you could say just having Warsaw Pact means France could have invaded East Germany or Kaliningrad
@@happyhappynuts clearly you haven’t heard anything about the Minsk agreements and what foreign politics are . Or do you think if Russia had the ok to install a base in the north of Mexico or the the South of Canada the US would just stand by ? . Did u hear about the massacre in Donbas since 2014 just because thev wanted to become independent because they are Russian speakers ?.. what would Germany do if the polish were killing the German community? What would France do if the Flemish did the same with the French part ?. You see , it’s much more complex that that . Get a book
@@pensatoreseneca You're completely confused. Ukraine isn't part of NATO. An analogy would be if Mexico DIDN'T have an alliance with Russia, and America then invaded an annexed territory, then annexed more territory, then 7 years later invaded Mexico in entirety and said it was because of the alliance Mexico didn't actually have. Lol. Have you EVER actually read a single book on this topic?
@@metaphysicalnaturalist988 I think you are the one confused . The analogy is ; if Mexico gave the green light to Russia so that they set up an army base (which is what the NATO aka US)wants to do by having Ukraine join nato , which Ukraine intended to do) the US would never take it . Does Cuba sound familiar ?. Dud you ever go to school or is it that you are so brainwashed you can’t even see beyond your nose ? .
What a brilliantly conducted interview. Other interviewers please take note.
Amanpour has the best interviewers. No doubt these are the best. Their interviews need to be amplified.
Some real journalism th-cam.com/users/PatrickLancasterNewsTodayfeatured
I agree with other comment, this was probably the best interview I’ve heard/watched regarding this war. So many insightful thoughts. Thank you!
All of her interviews are same quality - the best
The Ukrainian war planned and prepared by the the same people as 9/11.
ioffe's always concise, well-spoken and incredibly knowledgeable.
She spins the news in favor of the left.
concise , well spoken and burtally wrong
anyways shes gorgeous
@@priyanshu3182 she's very beautiful but she leads with her intelligence
What an amazing woman! It’s so nice to hear a non-politician who speaks clearly, knowledgeable and without remorse in stating facts as they exist. Please reference this interview against the next Fox News piece you happen to view. Good job to Walter as well. Very informative!!!
She didnt even give the real reason. its like scotland, ireland and wales went with communist china and started telling england (russia in this case) about nuclear capabilities etc. The war was expected
@@satoshinakamoto7253 sure? Bla bla bla! The reason for the war, has everything to do with believing in Russian glory days, and nothing to do with respecting a foreign country’s sovereignty. Get it, people in Ukraine have the right to choose their own fate, however far or measured!!!
@@christophorfaust2457 haha, no. You don't care about truth do you
@@satoshinakamoto7253 or maybe I do. No agenda here!
The Ukrainian war planned and prepared by the the same people as 9/11.
I am always so impressed with Julia Ioffe's insights and analysis , every time I watch her on the various news outlets. Julia is the REAL Russian expert; she is an American that understands the culture and speaks the language. This knowledge and her skills gives her a great advantage over other experts. For example, she engages in inter- sectional analysis ( where politics, social and economic issues meet) coherently and with ease.
Some real jurnlism th-cam.com/users/PatrickLancasterNewsTodayfeatured
Me too. She’s brilliant!
she just knows it all, in detail and from own investigations but also her experiences. An intellectual who wants to know it all on every level. I mean she was in Maidan reporting, while bullets were flying around. Even the psychological stories behind the olympic games in relation to Putin's political mindset and other "inter-sectional" analyses are just amazing just to listen to. Her words are gold and linguistic skills are on top.
Check out Fiona Hill too. She's formerly a White House Russia "expert" and was sacked for cooperating with the Trump impeachment.
I admit that she have nice Posture, and ... hmm... that is all. About Russia she have limited knowledge.
Very much appreciate Julia Ioffe very well said discussion of Putins war on Ukraine. Its clearly a bad situation if this lingers on years.
This woman is brilliant - I wish more journalists had as good a grasp of Russia and Eastern Europe as she does. At 2:05 she says "these astroturf breakaway republics" - priceless. Astroturf=artificially created.
Thank you - I wondered if that was the intent of her nomenclature. She is so well-spoken and articulate.
To be slightly more specific:
"astroturfing" is a political movement that is designed to look like a grassroots citizen movement, but it's a well funded and intentionally created group that manipulates public opinion to build fear and/or rage.
Hypocrisy is the queen my Walter ;-) Everything is Astroturf without West's approval, with approval is right for self-determination ;-)
when she talks about Medvedev's more open approach f.e. against corruption, she says he was injecting oxygen into the russian system. I love the way she expresses herself.
Yes, she is an extremely well-knowledged and well-schooled expert on Russia and all of this today. Bar none.
She sounds like it, but she actually isnt. She didnt even give the real reason. its like scotland, ireland and wales went with communist china and started telling england (russia in this case) about nuclear capabilities etc. The war was expected
@@GlennC789 Haha, she is not. All her arguments are based on emotion, without any reason or logic behind it on why he actually invaded
@@satoshinakamoto7253 I'm joining in on this pile-on - wth are you smoking?
She's anti-Russian pundit. She's been doing this for many years. Very predictable.
@@GlennC789 Haha, nope. Thats a female way of prioritising emotion. Tell nato to stop being on russia's doorstep, problem solved
"Putin has millions of willing executioners" is profound, obvious, and a lesson to those in denial about the war, being a Russian war. Putin is the leader, but the executioners, and the populace that supports them must also be held accountable.
It's least profound when contrasted to the Iraq war and the other wars Europe was complicit in.
@@martinvanburen4578 "Yes, but what about ..."
@@wilmerwalton5089 exactly.....what about this and that and the other
@@martinvanburen4578 ```Whataboutism or whataboutery (as in "what about…?") is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy, which attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving the argument.```
@@wilmerwalton5089 yeah it's a way to ignore the conditions leading up to an event and act as if it happens in isolation. it's a fallacy used when confronted with historical points that counter an argument put forward. "without disproving" is the condition which again ignore the nature of historical events ...thus fallacy of defective induction
Excellent and balanced analysis and interview.
She has tremendous insight. A wonderful journalist. We are so lucky to have her!
Thank you PBS. Thank you Christiane.
Beware, they spin the news in favor of the left.
@@Seekthetruth3000 “It is a well known fact the reality has a liberal bias.” - Stephen Colbert
@@judykinsman3258 It is a known fact that Colbert is a rich woke democrat party hack, and a hypocrite.
Julia Ioffe does amazing work and is extremely knowledgable on this subject. She was an excellent choice for an interview.
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Operation Mockingbird 2022.
You go to jail for calling war a war imagine that, you would thing that would wake people up. I am very impressed with Julia Loffe
True
It is very easy to start a war, but it is very difficult to end one.
- Thank you for sharing this wisdom Ms. Ioffe.
She didnt even give the real reason. its like scotland, ireland and wales went with communist china and started telling england (russia in this case) about nuclear capabilities etc. The war was expected
That is your takeaway from this interview? You can do better!
Great interview! She clearly has impressive insight and the ability to articulate it.
But, I question the possibility of this war dragging on for years. First, several experts state that Putin does not have enough reserves to even sustain a protracted war. Second, Ukraine is receiving weapons from literally DOZENS of countries. They collectively can sustain this, while Russia cannot. Furthermore, Russia's loss rate already demonstrates a rapid attrition which does not appear to be replenished.. Third, at some point the economic impact of sanctions, lost business, inflation, and extensive casualties, must reach a societal breaking point
I think you have listed all the reasons why the war has to drag on for quite some time. First, the Ukrainians have to be trained on more advanced weapons, which takes time. Second, a quick push-out of the Russian troops dramatically increases the risk that the Kremlin psychopath pushes the nuclear button. Third, the Russian army therefore needs to be worn out on the battle-field, which again takes some time. Fourth and finally, the sanctions have to have an effect, which takes even more time. The Ukrainian army needs to have the weapons to withstand the Russian army long enough, so that the wear and tear on the latter takes its toll and the Russian economy can no longer resupply the weapons lost by its army. The big Unknown in these calculations is China.
@@hans-martinadorf3834 I agree, although the demographics suggest rate of attrition of Russia troops cannot be sustained for very long. Putin has said 9 May is an important date (historically, WWII victory day for the Soviet Union). Some analysts suggest he NEEDS to be able to declare some substantial victory by then. So, if he makes a major push in the next couple weeks and gets badly mauled again with little territorial gains, things could quickly come to a head. As best I understand it, China won't engage militarily, they would lose far more from the west than they'd gain from Russia, and financial sanctions would have a greater effect on China.
Some real journalism th-cam.com/users/PatrickLancasterNewsTodayfeatured
How long and how much has Putin been stocking up $$ to bank roll ‘Putin’s War’. He had been siphoning off money with his oligarchs for 20 years.
The fear of war is more terrible than confronting Russia and decisively ending this
It’s the fear of a nuclear war, to be precise. We’re talking of billions of lives lost, best case scenario, and human extinction worst case.
@@chris582 That would mean that Putin is a suicidal maniac … But I can’t confirm that he isn’t.
The problem is that Europe as whole needs to go through a massive rearming now that the wool has been pulled from their eyes and they realize Russia has relapsed into a dangerous authoritarian state. West in general has to clean house since a good chunk of it is filled with people who only a month ago would be in public praising Vladimir Hitlerski.
Russia does have an alliance with China India and Iran. North Korea would likely join them along with many other nations if a world war began.
@@SonOfAB_tch2ndClass I thought that’s Vladolf Putler
Dear Julia Ioffe, ...thank you for your knowledge and insight...it's invaluable to those of us on the outside who may not have a complete or thorough understanding of what's happening...you are much appreciated...
My heart goes out to the families of victims.
In Donbass?
@@notabene7381 🙄 Буквально пожалей своего невежества товарищ
Good job making putin look even more desperate & pathetic lol
@@JustMe-nf1mf ZSP. F--.
Some real journalism th-cam.com/users/PatrickLancasterNewsTodayfeatured
Thank you Julia, Biden is doing best he can. We should be ashamed of our right-wing press and not give Putin fuel. Vote well America we could pay the for this for a long time.
You got that right!!! No to the orange narcissist!!!
"Biden's doing the best he can"
You mean nothing?
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 how do you call a billion in arms nothing . ? grow up.
@@user-rv8wb1nl1b Considering what other NATO countries have sent, and considering the economic and militaristic juggernaut that is the United States of America, and considering how Russia is a century-old adversary of the US, and considering the geopolitical ramifications of what Putin has done, yes Biden has done virtually nothing.
Like it or not, the US response sets the tone for how other countries respond to a madman like Putin. America, unfortunately, is the leader of our global system of economics, trade, laws that we use to maintain peace and growth. It's an imperfect system but the status quo is essential to stop the chaos and yielding to the Hitler's, Stalin's, and Putin's that are more interested in personal glory than human civilization.
As any schoolchild is told, you need to stand up to bullies because at their core, they're nothing but cowards who use brute strength to compensate for other personal or national inadequacies. This lesson has been learned time and time again all throughout history. Maybe you should read a few more books and finish your education, my son.
Sleepy Joe is an absolute disgrace. Deluded and dangerously misguided leftists like yourself are hopeless.
Excellent summary of what's going on in Ukraine and Julia's op-ed that this invasion is Europe's 9/11 is brilliant
She Julia is the best..! Really every day you need to have her on tv to explain to the average American who knows nothing.. she’ll teach them something.. the truth.. and it’s complex like the truth always is.. but she explains that complexity in such a honest exquisite way….thank you..🙏
Ioffe is an international treasure. The dissolution of Memorial is yet another tragedy.
Operation Mockingbird 2022.
Amazing interview. Thank you.
Every time I see Christiane I wonder what JFK jr. would be doing today. Odd where my mind goes. Julia is a very plugged in, smart, well educated reporter on Russia. Thanks for having her on.
Not odd, I think about him often. I think the world would be a much better sight if he had lived.
The Ukrainian war planned and prepared by the the same people as 9/11.
You are not alone..
@@Nik-jq4tx moronic comment but continue to believe conspiracy theories out there on planet xetnon, where you're from. Back here on earth, a different reality prevails.
If only CNN had more interviews of this quality. Fox? Ha, I can't dream that hard. Julia is concise and honest. Walter is on point. Thanks.
CNN? CNN is the worst fake news of them all. They admitted on hidden camera that they knew the Russiagate was humbug but they published it anyway. They interviewed their own camera man pretending he's just a regular guy on the street. Chris Cuomo tried to claim that only journalists are allowed to read Wikileaks so his viewers should not go there to read for themselves but instead just trust what Cuomo says. (In reality, journalists have no special privileges at all, anyone can call themselves journalists.) CNN has repeatedly "lost the satellite feed" when their guests start saying something that doesn't fit the channel's narrative. There are countless examples of dishonest behaviour at CNN.
Not that I'm defending FOX, there is a lot of shit there too.
I appreciate Julia's reports.
I only disagree with the 911 anology.
This reminds me of Hitler's Germany, crushing Poland.
more like soviets invading finland. hitler invading poland analogy doesn't fit. poland would have to invade ukraine for it to work. hitler didnt invade by himself. soviets invaded poland a week later.
Please don't forget that Hitler and Stalin attacked Poland simultaneously. Stalin could have warned Po!and instead he sided with Hitler meaning Stalin's ambitions were identical to Hitler's.
Hitler-Stalin Pact.
In the 2022 context, the Putin-Xi Pact, with the latter standing by while eyeing Taiwan.
It's the creation of a new cold war. Which our side has absolutely been part of helping to create.
Very good interview with Julia. So informative about disinformation dissemination. Very knowledgeable about how Russia & Putin works. Excellent questions by Walter.
Julia is more than great, she is so smart
smart, and very soothing on the eyes. wow.
Thanks for the update, Julia.
How does a country with a GNP less than that of Italy afford this in the long run?
To GNP figures, a 100 Euro bottle of wine is the same as half a metric ton of wheat. But which will feed more soldiers?
A big fat banking profit in the 8 figures looks real good on a balance sheet, but even a money-losing weapons factory is worth more when the shells start flying.
Very inteligent and pleasant woman.
Thank you fir inviting her.
Everybody should subscribe and support puck news everybody should support Julia because one of the most knowledgeable people on Russia because she lived there and studied t h e r e and she also understands the West namely America
Thank you, Julia for pointing out the garbagge, so called ''journalist'' from the US, who is spreadind the Russian propaganda. In spite of this outrageous person, a lot of his colleagues, are showing a very realistic and humane approach, towards this tragedy.
I am very glad that you underscored the person's name, because he is, trully disgusting.
You are a model of intelligence and modesty for all of us, Julia!
Que linda a repórter e jornalista Júlia 😍😘😘😘
This was so interesting. Probably the best interview with Russian expert with objective and understanding opinion
She sounds like it, but she actually isnt. She didnt even give the real reason. its like scotland, ireland and wales went with communist china and started telling england (russia in this case) about nuclear capabilities etc. The war was expected
Check out her recent full-hour interview on Frontline.
Watch Kotkin, who is vastly more informed
@@satoshinakamoto7253 ohhh that is a new simple reasoning for this mess. Oversimplification at best
@@digitalperson108 no
Anything and anytime julia talks she always right. I just love hearing her voice 😍🤗
Man she is gorgeous. She can talk international politics to me all day and I'd never get tired.
I dream that someone hacks Russia ’s TV and show images of Ukraine for hours until everyone knows.
Not sure it would make a difference. In for a dime, in for a dollar.
They did
they will say it is fake and whatever it takes to feed their world view, not all but many. The only way is for them to investigate and find out on their own, but this need some skills and methods many do not have.
@@shr4n exactly 🙊🙉🤡🙈🙃
Anonymous hackers did already, it doesn't work. Father in Moscow doesn't believe his son in Kiev that Russians are bombing them.
The current conflict can't and won't grind on for years as the Soviet war in Afghanistan did. Russia, in less than 3 weeks, has already lost many thousands of soldiers and well over 1,000 tanks, armored personnel carriers, etc. Over the course of the USSR's war in Afghanistan, 15,000 Soviet soldiers died, or roughly 1,500 a year. At the current rate of 3-5,000 Russian soldiers killed per month - a very conservative estimate - 36,000 - 60,000 Russian soldiers would die in a year of fighting. This obviously is not sustainable. This war has, at most, several months to run, particularly in light of the increasing US and other European aid for Ukraine. Additionally, by all accounts this is Putin's war and no one else's. We have seen from other TH-cam clips how various members of his own security council were shell-shocked at his decision to invade Ukraine. His own soldiers are without enthusiasm for this war. Once Putin is killed or otherwise out of office, the war will be over quite quickly. And even if he isn't deposed, Russia simply doesn't have enough troops to sustain the current rate of losses for an entire year. And that rate will only go up as more and more Javelin and Stinger missiles and other weapons are delivered to the Ukrainians.
Where did you get these figures from? "Russia, in less than 3 weeks, has already lost thousands of soldiers and well over 1,000 tanks, armored personnel carriers, etc. ".
Agree. He can’t sustain this bs. Unless of course he push the red button. God for bid.
This calculation is insane. You cannot calculate year by year on a comparative basis. Even if Russia has lost quite a few soldiers so far, because of the decimation of Ukrainian cities and ports, loss of soldiers and civilians, Ukraine wouldn't have many more people to defend. Thus, the war would have ended in a Russian victory.
@@honestbajan6877 true. Then nato launch a counter. You kick a man when he is at his weakest.
@@MrStringybark Every news channel has given estimated figures. You can imagine Ukrainian officers keep up with that for propaganda purposes and morale then report it to the media.
It is game theory: if somebody could tell all Russian soldiers to quit all at the same time, they probably would. But every soldier’s individual decision could send them to the Goulagh, I mean Gulag
This sounds very much like how Vietnam was portrayed to Americans for years.
its like scotland, ireland and wales went with communist china and started telling england (russia in this case) about nuclear capabilities etc. The war was expected
Yes. When government promoted mistruth takes over it is nearly impossible to eradicate. Sad to say it but millions of Americans even today will not believe that carpet bombing with napalm in Vietnam killed, at the lowest of estimates, hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
Tragically, these propagandized beliefs enable Putin to recruit thousands of executioners who think they are noble patriots and who will continue to commit mass murder. Just like the American pilots who sortied night after night dropping napalm these Russian officers indiscriminately believe they are doing the right thing. They have no notion that they perpetrate horrifying crimes. They just call it war.
You sound exactly like a Russian Disinformation Troll Farm
@@satoshinakamoto7253 get back under your bridge troll - you should be ashamed - unlike the vast majority of the serfs in russia you have a very clear idea about whats going on
@@satoshinakamoto7253 NATO arms build up on Russia's borders didn't help but neither did Putin's delusions. Kennedy nearly blew up the world when SU did what we have done..
Ioffe is a very decent, knowledgeable person. But Soviets in Afghanistan was different because all of Europe is engaged here, so a 7 year war or anything approaching it is highly improbable
How long did the war in old Yugoslavia last? The original invasion of Ukraine was in 2014 - 8 years ago - and that part of the war was still going when this invasion occurred. The Europeans don't have a good track record here. We have an opportunity now in that Europe is willing at this time to follow the US lead. We need to be more assertive than the Biden administration seems to be.
@@MrDubyadee1 Apples and oranges. Yugoslavia was an civil war between different ethnic groups that had tolerated each other as long as a strong man was in charge. What is happening in Ukraine is very different. Also, Europe should not need or want to be following the US lead. Equal partners, yes but we're all grown-ups here in Europe, thank you very much.
@ Alex W I agree entirely. What happens when Putin runs out of money and manpower? It won't take 7 years, IMHO.
@@c.a.savage5689 it’s not Apples & Oranges. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine began in 2014 - 8 years ago when they seized Crimea. Their troops are also part of the Donbas fake separatist movement. Both Yugoslavia and the USSR were countries of different ethnic groups with different languages held together by strongmen. When that central authority was gone the country fell apart. The difference was the USSR breakup was initially peaceful, but since Putin Russia has been using Russian minorities as an excuse to invade or threaten multiple countries. Chechnya is the equivalent of the Serbs attack on Bosnia but more savage.
She was asked for worst case scenarios. This dragging on for years is entirely possible. Especially, if you include the fact that Ukraine deserves to get all of its borders back. A ceasefire won't mean Russia is out of Ukraine. How long will it take to get Russia out of Crimea? The Donbas?
Brilliance notwithstanding, she is a beautiful looking woman
Thank God Trump is not President.
Yes, of course. I remember how terrible conditions in Eastern Europe and Afghanistan were during his administration. And Trump had such an awful working relationship with Putin.
@@DrCruel He would have probably aided the russians by this point. 😂😂😂
@@DrCruel PUTIN would be in east Germany by now of Trump were president!
Worse, USA would have a" President" like Russia has!!!
Oh, no doubt. Orange Man bad. Biden good. 😐
@@DrCruel Does your mom know you have her phone?
Riveting and massively informative journalism. Hats off to both Ioffe for a wealth of insight and Isaacson for incisive questions.
I learned so much right there. Will look for this woman at Puck news. Thank you so much
Julia Ioffe is not only articulate on this subject, she's incredibly diligent on following this from the beginning of the timeline to the end.
She's the best. If you're into Russo-anything or want to get some perspective on the current invasion of Ukraine, find her stuff. She's very perceptive
Since she has not even a hint of a Russian accent, most people don't realize that she's Russian American born in Moscow. That's why she knows Russia so well.
Yes, she speaks Russian
@@amber40494 And has friends in Russia, who she sometimes visits. It gives her insight.
Well said, Julia. You are one to watch.
More of Julia Ioffe, please!
This comparison of what the USA went through on September 11 is not the same as what Ukraine is experiencing now. This is a false equivalency. The attacks on the US was not continuous and unrelenting. People still had a home to go to; there stil was a community living within a functioning society in a country that still retained sovereign integrity. None of this is what Ukraine currently has. None at all. If you must draw comparison then the situation in Ukraine is comparable to what happened to Poland on the 1st of September 1939. Ukraine is invaded in the same way as Poland was. That's the right comparison.
But seeing that you are an American, and because of this, you cannot relate to any other country's situation in a detached empathetic manner. Consequently can only see global situations in a US centric manner, then the better comparison to make would be Pearl Harbour. This was an aggressive attack on sovereign nation by other country with aggressive intent.
September 11 was just another terrorist attack much akin to what the UK went through because of the IRA.
Stop co-opting disasters and making it your own with a false equivalency. Whether you can believe this or not, the invasion of Ukraine is not about you.
No. It is entirely about the united states. Putin wants his empire and we’re the ones who “won” the Cold War.
I think you missed the point of who said it originally.
It is a 9/11 like wake-up to reality moment for Western European countries already safe-ishly behind the fence of NATO. Like Germany.
I think Ukraine and some other Ex-Warsaw Pact countries were never under any illusions of safety from Russian aggression.
Sure. Ukraine invasion is NOT Usa business. In reality USA military and political interference was in Ukraine from 2014. And Ukraine is NOT Usa busines. Europe is NOT Usa business.
She is wonderful. Thank you so much for this interview.
No she's Not! Julia loffe is a pittiless individual. Horrible woman she is!th-cam.com/video/mCvuhPqTrOk/w-d-xo.html
Excellent analysis of the situation! Bravo, Julia!...
Great contribution from Julia Ioffe. She should however not forget to water the plant behind her.
Julia Most intelligent person I've seen
Russia can not turn this war into "29 year of Afghanistan", by a very simple reason: they run out of biomaterial order of magnitude faster then they did in Afghanistan. They already lost quarter to third of their army just in 3 weeks.
I am not a journalist, but I always question someone's motivation and sources of information used in reporting evaluating "how deep and insightful" a journalist's work is. Deep-rooted conflict within Ukraine which have existed for years but was highlighted to the outside world only after the coup in 2014, in many aspects, is a cause of this war, not a blunt ambition of Putin to restore USSR.
I could watch her speak all day
There are many reasons why I love Julia. The main one being that she pronounces Moscow correctly. Not like " moss cow" as others with American accents say it. And she was born there so, no arguments :P
I call it moose-cow as I am never sure what beast it is from day to day.😁
@@MrStringybark hahahahaaha
she is awesome at making a clean clear presentation but oh boy did she kill that plant by the window
peace
Thany you, Julia for your intelligent assessment.
Keep up your commentary, Ms. Ioffe. Your observations are always sober and well reasoned.
Drive Putin out of Ukraine, keep the sanctions on until they overthrow Putin.
If you guys liked Julia’s interview here, check out her Frontline interviews. They’re on YT.
*THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH!* for your insight on these *difficult* subjects.
Excellent interview; You Guys work so well together. Thanks 💙🙏🏼💛
Does it matter if sanctions have brought Russia back to the 90's,
since Putin has brought it back to the 30's ?
1936-38 or so was Stalin's Great Terror (Purge). Clearly not the same. But it has parallels.
@Hudds Russians are not fucking over Nazis today. They love American Neo Nazis.
She didnt even give the real reason. its like scotland, ireland and wales went with communist china and started telling england (russia in this case) about nuclear capabilities etc. The war was expected
Yeah, the 1630s.
The sad fact is that no matter how bad the Russian economy will fall after all this is over Putin and his oligarchs will still live like kings behind their mansions.
The 15-year law was voted by each and every one of the members of the Duma. The Russians are serfs in the service of an autocrat. Or put another way, serfs need an autocrat. The Mongolian heritage is sealed in the Russian mentality.
You had me until your last sentence. Russian autocracy existed before and after the Mongolians. The Mongolians had little to do with it.
Yes. Russians love their Tsar and being told what to do and not having to think for themselves. Always have done.
@@MrDubyadee1 You're right, but only the Golden Horde put nation-wiping into practice. The grass where Genghis Khan's horse stepped on did not come out again.
Bro, look it up, the Mongolians weren't serfs, they were known historically as nomadic warriors. Even the Russian serfs rebelled periodically or went off to live in the woods. The slave mentality of way too many Russians comes from long term oppression, trauma, lack of unity among the oppressed and hopelessness, not anything ethnic.
what a mind, what a voice, what beauty, my goodness, i think i love Julia Ioffe.
I'm here for julia ioffe. water isaacson is also awesome.
When talking about Memorial (the organization), it is striking how much parallels there are between the GQP and Russian dictators
CORRECTION
ALL GOVERNMENT ARE EVIL
That includes both democrats and republicans. Stop turning a blind eye and pretending that both sides never made mistakes.
People like you are the reason the government always get away with corruption.
If no one stops Putin, he may keep on going.
When Julia speaks, the wise listen!
More Julia please and thank you. I'm saving up for a subscription to puck news. worth it!
Pubs is my go to for news and entertainment🐱 I have admired Christiane Amanpour for years🌷🐦🎶🌈🙏💃
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She didnt even give the real reason. its like scotland, ireland and wales went with communist china and started telling england (russia in this case) about nuclear capabilities etc. The war was expected
Great point. Once the army knows the truth, they have a responsibility.
These two women have such treasures. Julia takes me back to MOW in a way I can relate. I love and appreciate how Russians are wired so differently from the West.
Good Job!
PBS coverage has been superb, thanks. Its where I come first.
This reminds me more of the cuban missile crisis than 911
It is so nice to hear someone like Julia Loffe speak, compared to all the others who have agendas and talk trash. She actually knows what she is talking about and isn't just repeating what others have said.
Julia is the BEST !
I dont like the 9/11 comparison. This is way worse than 9/11.
The comparison isn’t better or worse. It is being shocked out of their complacency. 9/11 shocked the US from our illusion of invulnerability isolated by two oceans. Well the Russian invasion of Ukraine shocked Europeans from their illusion that Russia was so interwoven in their economies that she would never do anything like this. The problem is the world kept tolerating Putin’s aggression and he kept getting more and more aggressive. Ukraine and Western leaders have no on blame but Putin and the West for tolerated him. Putin and Russia should have been crushed economically the very first invasion in Chechnya. Everything subsequent was the direct result of Western weakness.
The comparison wasn't in body count -- it was in the geopolitical ground shift.
she's brilliant
Love your talks
Thank you for truth.