Thank you!!! This was the most detailed video that I came across and I watched at least nine videos before seeing this one! To the letter of your instructions, I was able to successfully remove the tumbler without damaging anything else!
Brilliant. My retired neighbor's truck suffered from this failure when he stopped at another location across town. I guess it had been sticking, as he had already bought a new lock cylinder, matched to the old keys, it just needed to be installed. But before he could get it swapped, the cylinder locked up and he could no longer 'jiggle" the key to start the truck. He was going to call a tow truck, and have it taken to a shop for repair. I told him I'd have a look at it , and after viewing this vid, I was able to install the new lock cylinder and get his truck back in his driveway in about 30 minutes, including the trip to retrieve it. Saved him the cost of the tow, as well shop labor, and he and his wife were very grateful. Simple, simple repair. Big thumbs up, Brian.
I'm doing Co op at a Chevy dealership right now and because of all those cobalt and ion ignition recalls (slightly different but generally the same) been doing this a lot. Even done a couple of older gmc trucks exactly the same as the one in the video. It's really not that complicated. pretty much all the students are doing these when there supervisor is on break or lunch. Good detailed video Brian. Keep it up.
Suggestion, when you get the lock cylinder, if you get it from the dealer, have them give you the key code. All they need is the VIN and then you can just put it together without tearing the old one apart. Great work Brian, as usual.
I suspect you'd have to prove ownership and that the "key code" is the cryptic code that comes with the vehicle that a locksmith has to decode to find out the cuts on the key. Otherwise it'd be an easy avenue for anyone to give the dealer a VIN and essentially get keys. There's only 4 depths there so if you really wanna be clever you can read the key to know which wafers (the correct term) go where.
That's true but as a mechanic the dealers know you and there is a trust there. I have no problem getting key codes. Because they know me and buying a lock cylinder further solidifies the deal.
Shaun Butterfield Then they are fools and take on alot of liability. No reason to trust a "friend" with someone else's "stuff" unless you know with certainty that person wants your friend handling their stuff. Can you imagine the financial industry if social security and account numbers were so easily passed along to others?
Thank you! I thought I was crazy. Had no clue why my key wouldn’t turn. The amount of times I pull that switch out trying to place fix the teeth on the gears.
That's the best lock cylinder video I've ever seen. With the good lighting and the tripod, your detail is spectacular at full screen HD. Even a free gondola clip at the end (grin). Is there any restriction on buying a lock cylinder from the dealer?
I have the same lock cylinder (Trailblazer 2004), and I can't insert the key into the lock cylinder. I'm at the point where drilling it out looks like the only option. I'm worried about damaging thing though. Any suggestions are appreciated (It's now 11-21-22).
Very cool. Thanks for the info. Just FYI, the number of key combos is not xpressd with multiplication, but with factorials. Looks like this: 9! + 4! = 32904 possible key combos.
The number of possible key combinations in this case is 4 to the power of nine. Factorials only come into play when you would rekey a lock to a new combination with the same wafers (and all of them were different in size)
Eurolockguy Thanks. It's been a while since I took a course on probability, so I guess I confused times when factorials are used and when exponents are used. I knew it wasn't simple multiplication though. Thanks for the clarification.
Eurolockguy True, but we can't use all those combinations - i.e. we wouldn't have a key with all the cuts at the same depth nor would we go from a 4 depth straight to a 1 or vice-versa.
Killer2600 Indeed Like i also mentioned in another reply , somewhere on this page: all code series have certain rules that the bitting must comply to. This series is actually quite a large one , about 110.000 unique codes. (Out of 1 million , as this is actually a 10 cut key)
You have to get an OEM/Pin-able lock cylinder. Since only the dealer and locksmiths pin locks to given keys all the DIY auto part sources will just sell you plug and play cylinders that already have keys. In short, buy from OEM or locksmith.
I have a 2003 Yukon XL denali.The key was stuck and we wouldn't turn so I tried everything and i Can't get the cylinder to turn up a little bit so I can put the sharp point down that 1 hole.You know, to release it, so now I'm starting to drill it.And I'm, I'm getting tired.I can't figure out how to get the d*** thing out. Any suggestions
We will turn you into a locksmith yet. Go to Reponut and get the lock picks he used in his last video, will help with those stuck wards in that lock to get them out one last time. Keep those little springs as they are useful if you lose one on another lock.
Indeed , but not all of these possible bittings are used. The bitting has to comply to certain rules. For example , you can not get a 1 and a 4 cut next to eachother. Or , only 2 consecutive cuts can have the same depth. In some code lists it's even more extreme , like with the GM 6 cut: the sum of all the depths must be an even number. Most automotive key blanks have a codelist that has 2000-8000 unique codes.
Thank you!!! This was the most detailed video that I came across and I watched at least nine videos before seeing this one! To the letter of your instructions, I was able to successfully remove the tumbler without damaging anything else!
Brilliant. My retired neighbor's truck suffered from this failure when he stopped at another location across town. I guess it had been sticking, as he had already bought a new lock cylinder, matched to the old keys, it just needed to be installed. But before he could get it swapped, the cylinder locked up and he could no longer 'jiggle" the key to start the truck.
He was going to call a tow truck, and have it taken to a shop for repair. I told him I'd have a look at it , and after viewing this vid, I was able to install the new lock cylinder and get his truck back in his driveway in about 30 minutes, including the trip to retrieve it. Saved him the cost of the tow, as well shop labor, and he and his wife were very grateful.
Simple, simple repair. Big thumbs up, Brian.
Thank you!!! The money shot was just what I needed.
I watched 6 videos and yours was the most informative!! Thanks for not wasting anyone’s time ❤
I'm doing Co op at a Chevy dealership right now and because of all those cobalt and ion ignition recalls (slightly different but generally the same) been doing this a lot. Even done a couple of older gmc trucks exactly the same as the one in the video. It's really not that complicated. pretty much all the students are doing these when there supervisor is on break or lunch. Good detailed video Brian. Keep it up.
Suggestion, when you get the lock cylinder, if you get it from the dealer, have them give you the key code. All they need is the VIN and then you can just put it together without tearing the old one apart. Great work Brian, as usual.
Small world, I actually worked for the Gregory boys! Good people.
I suspect you'd have to prove ownership and that the "key code" is the cryptic code that comes with the vehicle that a locksmith has to decode to find out the cuts on the key. Otherwise it'd be an easy avenue for anyone to give the dealer a VIN and essentially get keys. There's only 4 depths there so if you really wanna be clever you can read the key to know which wafers (the correct term) go where.
That's true but as a mechanic the dealers know you and there is a trust there. I have no problem getting key codes. Because they know me and buying a lock cylinder further solidifies the deal.
Shaun Butterfield Then they are fools and take on alot of liability. No reason to trust a "friend" with someone else's "stuff" unless you know with certainty that person wants your friend handling their stuff. Can you imagine the financial industry if social security and account numbers were so easily passed along to others?
Agreed.
Thank you! I thought I was crazy. Had no clue why my key wouldn’t turn. The amount of times I pull that switch out trying to place fix the teeth on the gears.
The channel lock method actually worked. First of many videos that solved this issue for me
Super detailed man!
I thought the video was over so I just let it play out!
Glad I did.
Aloha and take care
Love the random ski video after a lot of dead air lol, thanks for the vid. keep up the good work :)
What a great video!! About to try on my 05 Tahoe. And hey, if it doesn't work, "an" before a vowel is always true. Will update.
That's the best lock cylinder video I've ever seen. With the good lighting and the tripod, your detail is spectacular at full screen HD.
Even a free gondola clip at the end (grin).
Is there any restriction on buying a lock cylinder from the dealer?
Yes, money...They won't give you a lock cylinder unless you give them money. :D
Thanks! The only restriction is them setting up the tumblers for you. You have to show registration or title etc.
Nice one. I went the lazy way and replaced the whole thing . Got a new key with it . Just have to carry 2 keys now.
This video helped me to get my ignition cylinder out of my 95 GMC Jimmy much thanks Thanks!!
I have the same lock cylinder (Trailblazer 2004), and I can't insert the key into the lock cylinder. I'm at the point where drilling it out looks like the only option. I'm worried about damaging thing though. Any suggestions are appreciated (It's now 11-21-22).
Release the pressure this builds within la la ..., lol ... your the best Bri
Very cool. Thanks for the info. Just FYI, the number of key combos is not xpressd with multiplication, but with factorials. Looks like this: 9! + 4! = 32904 possible key combos.
The number of possible key combinations in this case is 4 to the power of nine.
Factorials only come into play when you would rekey a lock to a new combination with the same wafers (and all of them were different in size)
Eurolockguy Thanks. It's been a while since I took a course on probability, so I guess I confused times when factorials are used and when exponents are used. I knew it wasn't simple multiplication though. Thanks for the clarification.
Eurolockguy True, but we can't use all those combinations - i.e. we wouldn't have a key with all the cuts at the same depth nor would we go from a 4 depth straight to a 1 or vice-versa.
Killer2600 Indeed
Like i also mentioned in another reply , somewhere on this page:
all code series have certain rules that the bitting must comply to.
This series is actually quite a large one , about 110.000 unique codes. (Out of 1 million , as this is actually a 10 cut key)
not so
👍97...Burban..1500...Nicely done
Thanks so much. You saved me 470$.
brian would this be the same problem on my 2000 silverado ,i have trouble getting it to go to assesory.goes foward fine to start.
Interesting. You always come up with good stuff.
Doesn't look as difficult as I imagined it would be. Another excellent video Brian!
Best video ever thanks 🙏
this worked on my dad's 2007 Silverado classic (06 body style)
Do you have a part number on that lock cylinder to match original key? I only see kits with new keys.
You have to get an OEM/Pin-able lock cylinder. Since only the dealer and locksmiths pin locks to given keys all the DIY auto part sources will just sell you plug and play cylinders that already have keys. In short, buy from OEM or locksmith.
That's all well and good when you can turn the key.
Thanks so much!! Pliers worked like a charm
Superb mann!that is one of my pet hates.i feel ive learnt something cheers!
How do I get the key eneithion out of my 2004 Suzuki vernoa
GM and their lovely ignition tumblers.....
Thanks very much it was helpful (Ross)
Best help ever thank you
Excellent job thanks for the video 🏆
that was somthing new i havnt seen thank u
I have a 2003 Yukon XL denali.The key was stuck and we wouldn't turn so I tried everything and i Can't get the cylinder to turn up a little bit so I can put the sharp point down that 1 hole.You know, to release it, so now I'm starting to drill it.And I'm, I'm getting tired.I can't figure out how to get the d*** thing out.
Any suggestions
thanks so much, only one I found that had the info to use the channel locks
Thank You Brian, You are Awesome!
I think an 9 pin lock with 4 pin sizes would have 4 to the 9th power (4x4x4x4x4x4x4x4x4) combinations or possible key= 262,144
How to get broken key out of tumbler switch wrong key was put in it and got broke off on a 2003 3500
worked like a charm. Thanks
What if you lose the pins and the order they go in?
More on! Wow lol... great vid
Great advice for removing the stuck lock cylinder.
I need help with 95 chevy astro van , lost key
@ 12:00 you said 4×9=36 combination. That is wrong. It is 4^9= 4×4×4×4×4×4×4×4×4= 262,144 different key combinations possible.
We will turn you into a locksmith yet. Go to Reponut and get the lock picks he used in his last video, will help with those stuck wards in that lock to get them out one last time. Keep those little springs as they are useful if you lose one on another lock.
I actually know Matt. Tell him to take me on a ride along! I've asked, but he never responds. I know where he lives, but don't want to just show up.
briansmobile1 That would be cool if you rode with Matt :D
fyi that 5 digit code on the side of the cylinder is the key code any dealer or locksmith can convert it to the depths
Great video
I love that movie!!
Btw it's 4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4 (4^9) possible combination.
Do Ford cars do this too?
If you lose your key, and your keep your tumbler sequence you can have your key stamped out by computer.
very nice job thanks
Very helpful thank you
Thanks my was stuck and a little dirty so I put some wd-40 and cleaned it out
My key goes forward but gets stuck going back is it broke
3:30 that’s what she said lol 😂
"She's" a good communicator. I like that!
EXCELLENT VIDEO.
nice video
Thanks buddy!
amazing video thanks alot your the best
Brilliant!!
I think it is 4^9, which is 262144
Indeed , but not all of these possible bittings are used. The bitting has to comply to certain rules.
For example , you can not get a 1 and a 4 cut next to eachother. Or , only 2 consecutive cuts can have the same depth. In some code lists it's even more extreme , like with the GM 6 cut: the sum of all the depths must be an even number.
Most automotive key blanks have a codelist that has 2000-8000 unique codes.
I often go to the beach and keep my key in my pocket. It's usually salty, sandy and wet whwn I insert the key. Hello, My name is Tim and I'm an idiot.
great vid
Little gun, pew pew pew.... nice... lol
that was good.thanx
There are 1 billion Combinations with a 9 digit number,
briansmobile1 Actually you have 262144 possible key configurations with a 9-space 4-possibilty lock. Crazy huh!
Sounds much more secure.
Number of different combinations is number of possibility raised to the power of number of spots. In this case 4^9=262144
I am sure you know this, If this is the actual key code, I wouldblank it out, anyone can cut a key with that code
why don’t u just buy a whole new lock cylinder that’s what i’m doing
Step one: don't hang all those keys off the lock
Tell your customer how to drive their car when they don't ask. :D
9^4, not 9*4, I believe. 6561 unique keys. More math-gooder people are welcome to correct me. :-]
Wow, you need tweezers and a microscope for this repair.
My butt's sweatin'!!!!!!!
The combinations of the lock are not 4*9=36, but 4^9=262144. Source: math at shool and university ;)
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How do I get the key tumbler out of my Suzuki verona 2004