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"how dare you insinuate making my middle schooler put on a wedding dress and sign a sex contact is freudian!" oh BROTHER
The fbi should set these up as stings, I'm pretty sure it would be a safe bet to investigate every one of them that signs up...
Says a man with no awareness of how deeply Freudian the whole thing is.
Some of them look even younger than middle school. See 15:16
I like how his defense was “I wasn’t thinking about Freud”, a man whose whole thing was the subconscious mind.
And being her boyfriend & going out on dates & snuggling together before the fire.
So thankful my dad was too neglectful to do this lol
Same. Thank you based neglectful father 🙏🏻
Same!
Cold, gruff, and emotionless is 100x better than signing a hymen pledge with dad. 🤮
Same- my partner and I are watching this and I literally just told them I had friends who went to these, but my dad didn't care enough to take me. So I went to the silver ring thing with my youth group instead. I'm so glad I missed the ball though😅
Preach!
When i was young, growing up fundie-lite, i was very proud of myself for having zero temptation around boys. Turns out I was not to be a godly young lady, but a big ole gaythiest.
The Gay Agenda strikes again! 😅
🤣 Btw, your icon(?) reminds me of LuLaRoe and Chernobyl
"Gaythiest" 😂
Growing up an ace lesbian and purity culture adjacent means that it was all nbd and also very confusing
@@josephinedykstra3383Never understood how „fighting the temptation“ should work as I never felt any temptation as someone on the ace spectrum.
''If purity balls are bizarre, why do I love my wife?'' Sir, what?
Was he onto something or was he on something? 😭
Yeah, I don't even understand what that means.
The “chewed gum” concept and idea that a girl/woman’s body isn’t her own is heartbreaking
Exactly. There's no events for sons pledging their virginity to their fathers, or if there are they're exceedingly rare. So much shame is placed on women and we're taught our bodies are not our own and we should be ashamed of exceedingly natural urges like wanting to engage intimately. It's always a case of "ruining" ourselves yet men don't face ANY of that same discrimination.
These communities teach this idea that women are mere property and the men in their lives get to decide what they do with their body and their life, but the MOMENT the girls have intimate relations (even in cases of non-consent) it's now her fault because she suddenly has the agency now???? I had a friend in high school who grew up under fundie parents, and her boyfriend forced himself on her. Her parents blamed her, took her phone, monitored who she was speaking to and where she went, refused to let her even speak to any males, and encouraged the school to enforce social isolation on her... For the crime of being ***assaulted***. These communities make me sick.
Or the "licked cupcake" concept. Literally, a candle from the Exmo (ex Mormon) Candle Company
Its why a common insult for the child free by choice is 'selfish'. Well yeah, its MY body.
That German reporter standing in the middle of a Louisianna dance floor, speaking full German, and no one paying any attention....was kinda wild. She was roasting the shit out of them and they had no idea 😂
Like my home state of Texas, they’re not really aware of their surroundings. Ain’t woke, that’s for damn sure.
Kind of had a David Attenborough vibe.
Yeah. They really do lack a lot of self awareness. They don’t realize how bizarre this whole thing is. How unnatural their relationship to their children appear to the rest of the world.
She may be the one who coined “weird “
That was awesome, she ROASTED the whole thing so hard without saying much at all🔥💀
What I really appreciate about German culture is the sheer bluntness of their reaction. There’s no sugar coating of how the reporter perceives the purity ball, she just outright says “this is some unusual and weird stuff”.
I loved it when she called it exactly what it is, “narrow minded world view”. Brilliant.
Why was the video in German? Is there some kind of connection or something?
@@etherealgalaxies6 Because a German TV station reported on this phenomenon. It's fascinating for a German/ international audience because we don't have this weird extremist religious culture over here (although it certainly is on the rise).
@@HappyHarpGirlonly political extremism 💀
ja 👏🏻 voll 👏🏻
It's not about love, it's about controlling women.
Agreed. I grew up evangelical and there was no where near as much pressure for boys to be pure as there was for girls. I always wondered if there was a mother/son equivalent and the answer was no.
JEN, can you do Air One radio ?
It's TOTALLY about love. Wanting to prevent your daughter's from being used, hurt, exposed to pervs who just want to take advantage of them... theres SO MUCH MORE to life, then our culture and Hollywood wants you to believe that have obsessed over sex ... it's a sick twisted world we live in, that puerile think this is weird.. and I'm a Mom, with a daughter and now 2 little granddaughters.
Yup just like what the far right is pushing with contraceptive bans and abortion bans, I'm a grown ass woman with a child ill continue taking my birth control until we are ready for our second
Bingo!!
"i love my husband because i love god, even if i don't really feel anything for my husband" is CRAZY work and so so sad
@@anon9067 That shit just screams "I'M IN A CULT!"
It is very, very clear that this marriage is doomed. She doesn't love him - she doesn't even LIKE him - and I will be stunned if he doesn't literally trade her in for a younger model in about 10-15 years.
They were right next to one another as well-
There's nothing wrong with waiting until marriage. The problem is telling women that they're owned by their husbands, can't divorce, and that they're fundamentally broken or tarnished if they do have sex. There's nothing wrong with dads hugging and hanging out with their daughter. The problem is when dads try to equate themselves with boyfriends and make their daughter touch them when they don't want to because "they're the authority". There's nothing wrong with teaching about abstinence. The problem comes when you don't teach any other knowledge or protection so girls can't protect themselves.
These sorts of religious types will say that the left is "stamping out family values". We're not. We're just trying to get rid of the abusive parts.
When the men aren’t talked to.
Condoms are successful When you know what you’re doing. Teach your kids how to put on a condom. Tell them where to get STI checks. Because God only knows, there’s a lot of dangers out there, and knowing tools, knowing options, gives you choices. And a parent who you can trust completely.
@@philippal8666b-b-but Condoms feel uncomfortable and God id against condoms, so therefore my partner has to be okay without condoms (because I said so, you don't need proof)
Nothing wrong with waiting until marriage until you realize your partner couldn't please you, didn't want to, and didn't ever plan on trying.
I agree. I went to Catholic school and one good thing about it was they did teach us about birth control. They taught what the church believed about it but still gave us a real health lesson.
"Family values" are buzz words for "Christian family values".
Playing “Let it Go” the Disney personal freedom anthem, at what is essentially a “conceal don’t feel” party is as hilarious as it is sad.
💯💯💯
I immediately thought this, I felt wildly sad for these girls.
This comment wins.
It's part of the low media literacy that disturbs me
That movie also said that it's bad to quickly enter a marriage when you're young and I feel like some of these people might disagree with that
My (former) best friend is SUPER religious, and when we were like eleven or twelve, her dad once asked my dad if he'd given me a purity ring yet. My dad's response was "no, that's super fucking creepy".
Standing O to your dad!
*thumbs up for you and your Dad*
😂😂😂😂😂
What an awesome response! ❤
Based father.
Normal: girl sees how much her dad loves and respects his wife and decides she won't settle for a guy who isn't on that level because she knows what a healthy relationship looks like.
Creepy: girl is literally taught to think of her dad as a stand in for a boyfriend
I remember a father-daughter event when I was young, we all went on a tour of the USS Kitty Hawk. That seems so pure compared to all the ick that is purity balls.
Thank you for this.
I’m Girl Scouts we had Daddy Daughter dances that I enjoyed. It was nice to get dressed up and do something fun with my Dad. But it was never icky…just fun.
But nothing about that was about authority. I was about “never settle for anything less than someone who treats you well.”
I should mention that the “Dad” I am talking about is my step-Dad. Because my real Dad was 💯 creepy icky “God has given me authority over your life” and “your body is not your own” person.
Separating “good” parenting vs “not good” parenting is really difficult for me. Separating “healthy” sexuality vs “unhealthy” sexuality has been difficult to the point of impossible.
Having people point out “normal” vs “not normal” is healing
@@missanne2908 Hey that sounds like an amazing father-daughter event! I know my dad and I would have enjoyed such a day out together.
@@FairbrookWingatesnormal daddy daughter dances are fun and a great means of bonding. In my area it was super common for every restaurant to be filled before the dance with excited girls in pretty dresses. No weird Christian talking points, just music and a chocolate fountain.
‘I don't need a boyfriend I have my dad’ is a horrifying sentence 😢 I am so sure that all of this is a mask for abuse
I had the misfortune of hearing this from someone who believes in this : If she looks like mom, she’s dad’s type. It’s literally a Boy Mom but reversed (Girl Dad)
4:20 this logic on contraceptives is like "we won't be discussing seatbelts with her, because there won't be any car accidents."
You win. Excellently said.
I don't think I've ever gotten the exact brand of ick that I just experienced by watching a room full of teenagers singing along to Frozen in wedding dresses right after pledging their virginity to their fathers. It's both so sexualizing and infantilizing at the same time and not a single person in that room sees that other than the reporter.
It’s also ironic given the meaning of that song. They chain themselves while singing a song about breaking free.
@@doglover12345andfrmaybe they want to break free and can't vocalize it, but they identify with the song for reasons they don't even really understand themselves
A good percentage of those girls, and their future partners, will realize how creepy it was someday.
Calling hanging out with your daughter a date just makes it sound like you cannot imagine spending time with a woman without it being a date. It is so creepy.
Right? Like sometimes it can be cute to call it a daddy daughter date if it wasn't in the context of everything else this video is showing. A dad showing respect and love and how a man should treat a woman. But Ron Johnson being like, yeah I'm basically my daughter's boyfriend. No, you are her father, stop trying to sexualise your daughter (the very thing you're saying you're trying to prevent).
A friend posted on IG, getting her daughter ready for a “date” and dad came with a bouquet and picked her up at the door to take her out… I thought it was so weird but wasn’t sure if it’s a me problem or do others think it’s odd.
@@rebek18 I think it depends on the age of the daughter. If the daughter is a pre teen, especially pre puberty, it can be quite sweet. But teenagers upwards there's a bit of an ick about it. My dad has bought me flowers before, but it was for a celebration. Like I said in my other comment, it's about context.
@@sophieirwin3497 i agree, but as a teen I think it kinda depends. Daddy daughter dates are a hard pass doing hobbies together is pretty normal.
I once heard a father say, "I think the stereotype of dads who don't want anyone to date their daughter is 100% accurate. They really don't. They have a bond with this child, and they just want them to be daddy's little girl forever."
That kind of thinking just comes off as possessive.
I also heard another father say that they are a daughter's first love, and when another boy comes into the picture, they are afraid they are going to take that way. Which is pretty creepy thinking. It's a different type of love. So, there's no reason to get jealous.
Men who think that way are sick and delusional. These men either don’t want to face their daughters growing up to become adults, which inevitably heralds their own aging, or hate the idea of them losing their virginity. Which is what purity balls are all about.
Even if you child doesn't get into a romantic relationship, they are still going to grow up someday.
This has the same energy as the Dad threatening to shoot his daughter's homecoming date. It's just the upper middle class/ wealthy version lol
My dad has chased off some real "winners" from me and my sister's. That was actually a good thing. It was not about purity, it was about them being shitheads. I think the TV Version doesn't really happen. The purity balls however....
@@bec7080 and that's fair. We Stan actually protective father's .
You know that's not what op meant@@bec7080
I think it has worse. But I get what you mean
There's a whole country song called "Cleaning this Gun" about a dad telling his daughter's date when her curfew is, and saying that he'll be up late "still cleaning this gun" that he's holding while he's talking to him
My daughter went to law school at Tulane and one of her internships was at a free legal clinic going to court to argue for girls 11-16 to bypass the parental consent to have an abortion because the girls she represented were pregnant with daddy's baby. The saddest thing was that there was no lack of clients. Purity Ball seem to give permission for daddy's wrapped fantasies.
Yuck
Yeah I'm sure that's true although those sick people are in both secular and non secular households equally. And where TF where the mothers when they let their husband's do that and why were they fighting against their daughter against ab*rtion.
Actually I saw another documentary that looks similar to this where they buy children for adoption.
Also purity culture doesn't teach girls, and women that they have enough value on their own to be with people who actually value their boundaries.
This whole purity culture is just breeding ground, on how to abuse power!
Did you hear them mention how bad, "no-fault divorce" is? They want to get rid of it. They want those marriages to be permanent and not give girls the chance to change their minds or get out of abusive, controlling relationships. That's even scarier considering how little they know their spouses as they rush into marriage.
Fathers guarding their daughters sex lives is sooo F’ING creepy!🤢
It’s effing nuts. 🤮
Agree. Especially the bit where they think that until a daughter finds a man a father is there to “fill that gap” what the actual hell?
how is making a purity vow worse than teens having sex underage though?
It’s not the “purity vow” that’s the problem. Honestly, if you don’t want to have sex just don’t. You don’t have to throw a wedding between a father and daughter.
@@ashl3yy111 Because a purity vow is creepy. Hope that helps.
The fact that these girls are young enough to still sing let it go with their friends at the purity ball should maybe be an indicator to the parents that they are putting way too many expectations and way too much pressure on their young daughters
It almost felt like a sick joke hearing it. Having a Disney movie sing a long is how a movie would show how immature a child is. The ballerina dresses and tea parties are the cherry on top, this is utter insanity.
Frankly i was happy to hear that, as i hope it meant those girls have been "indoctrinated" enough by the film Frozen & particularly that specific song to leave the purity culture behind them when they grow up. 'Let it go', so to speak. 👸
What got me the most was the irony of the song choice. Felt like an joke on the producers part to leave that specific scene in
Yes! Such a good point! I also thought of that 😔
yeah... many of the girls are way too young to really understand what they are signing there. It's so creepy that they think so much of the sexuality of a 12 year old but then basically expect her not to have one.
Any man being THAT invested in his daughter's body / sex life needs psychological help. It's BEYOND GROSS.
But you just don't understand! They don't think about Freud when they do it so it is okay!
I remember one dude on a show like this (might even be the same one) was talking about how when HE was young he slept with a woman and how guilty HE felt about it, and that he was going to make sure his daughter didn't wind up like the woman he slept with and abandoned. There is so much to unpack there.
Yeah, spend more time with adults 😅
@@DimaRakesahJust teach them that some guys are jerks. And teach sons not to be jerks and communicate intentions
@@DimaRakesah
Lollll.
I was expecting you to say " he felt guilty about the women he slept with, because he is no longer a virgin and disobeyed God...and became flesh with the women he can no longer be with".
What a twist.
The "sex is so great! You’re going to love it!" without any kind of fucking context or education is so incredibly damaging. What happens if sex is painful? Or she doesn't have an orgasm/enjoy it at all? What he does things she doesn't like?
She can't ask anyone, though. Because that would be a sin. So when her friends bring up how wonderful sex is, she smiles and nods along, because if she's not enjoying sex, there must be something wrong with her.
That one guy who says he "encourages" his daughters to sit on his "lap and snuggle by the fire" is just creepy. There comes a point when your daughter is too old for that sort of thing.
Yeah, I doubt any normal 12/13 year old girl would be okay with that
eh i think different families have different boundaries and as long as it doesn't come from a place of weirdness physical affection and hugging and shit are totally normal
@@analias1983Yeah, I agree. Some families are super close. So long as there are no ulterior motives, I don't see a problem with being close. Still, if you have preteens who want space, give them space.
@@theab3957I remember that, as a pre-teen, I had a urge to stop all physical contavts with my parents. We never spoke about it, but they noticed my behaviour and gave me all the space I needed. I can'tceven imagine what I'vd had felt if they tried to force me into physical contact...
So I grew up in this world. I went to one of these balls. I signed a literal purity contract. When my high school boyfriend graped me, I didn’t even understand consent to be able to understand what happened. I blamed myself so much. A friend tried to rat me out. I decided to tell my mom that I wasn’t a virgin. When this happened, she told me I was no longer her daughter. It’s taken years to move past that with my mom. I don’t think I’ll ever forgive that. Those words were horrible to say to a 15 year old.
Edit: first of all, thank you for the words of support. To the moms who are saying they would have done differently, thank you! It heals a little part of me to hear that. Second, it’s a great point about using the word rape in here. Censoring is also partially for myself. It’s hard to take ownership of what happened to me. It’s a word I still struggle with. Third, my mom did not know that it was non-consensual. Not that it would have been ok but she didn’t have all of the information. I also didn’t have the words to explain everything. I was also trying to take accountability (more how to train a child trauma.) Fourth, choosing a relationship with my mom is more about me than her. Through reparenting myself I’ve come a long way for healing the parts that were decimated that year. I’m able to understand that she panicked and really screwed up. She also knows that. Her trauma fell on me that day. By not allowing that day to rip a vital part of my family from me, I have taken some power back. I feel that if I allowed my mom’s mistake in that moment to end our relationship, my rapist would continue to take a good person out of my life (one of his abusive goals.) We are all complicated and sometimes our trauma rubs against someone else’s trauma. It doesn’t make it right but it happens.
I'm so sorry for you!
That's horrific. I'm so, so sorry you had to go through that. 😢❤
I'm so sorry, I hope you are in a better place now. So many people in the Jenonite community have similar stories and its heartbreaking how common this is.
I am so sorry honey you didn't deserve it
I feel for you, these types of mindsets set up girls for SA and violence. My stories are similar.
Abstinence until marriage encourages young people to rush to get married. This led me to be in an abusive marriage in my early 20s. 😑
Yes, that sounds like couples who wait with sexual intercourse until the wedding are just marrying for sex. If there is any chemistry at all. Or that the girls might consider a marriage just so they can move out of their parents home. And I'm so sorry for your experience with marriage.
Same, hope you're doing better now ❤
a lack of sexual education also sets up women to be victims of SA. If you don't understand consent and don't know what's going on, it's difficult to say no. Of course the real problems are the perpetrators but we should still give girls the tools to defend themselves.
Yes. It's such a bad idea. It's so much healthier to encourage your kids to live with their partner to test compatibility, and advise that they wait until at least minimum 25 for marriage and kids.
Plus, you learn about yourself and what you want with every relationship. It’s the experience and trial and error that helps you grow. And what if they never get married? Their whole personality is based on if a man loves them? That’s dangerous. Why not put education and a degree as a lifetime achievement for women? Marriage is NOT an accomplishment
“Well I wasn’t thinking about Freud” yeah man, that’s like his whole thing.
Yep! This line made me laugh so hard - these guys are so dumb and so not selfaware and so so creepy. Poor girls.
Reminded me of that one exchange from Titanic about Freud:
"Are you familiar with Dr. Freud, Mr. Ismay? His ideas about the male preoccupation with size might be of particular interest to you."
"…Freud, who is he? Is he a passenger?"
Maybe he wasn’t thinking about Freud, but Freud was sure as hell thinking about people like him.
😬😬😬😬😬😬
“I was just thinking about a CIGAR!!”
They're touching their daughters in really odd ways and the daughters don't look comfortable.
Watching at 13:44, yeah, I noticed that too
That little girl flinching at 13:44 is so worrying - I hope wherever she is she’s ok
Lol ikr my dad puts his hand on my shoulder and I'm like gtfo
The fact that mother put her children when they were small in front of a mirror and teach them to smile when they're not happy is genuinely horrifying
Instead of a purity ball my church did a group wedding ceremony for all the teens to take a purity vow. We all wore white. The girls were all literally barefoot because we were “walking holy ground” as we walked down the aisle. I was like 15 at the time. My grandma took me “wedding dress” shopping. My little sister was a flower girl for my purity marriage to Jesus. Needless to say, I’m an atheist now and I’m in therapy.
It's good you're out of that cult and out of religion. And good luck with your therapy. I hope you do well.
"I am an Atheist and in therapy now" SAME GIRL! 😂
@@astranaut3967 And some fundies will say "I bet they didn't need therapy before deciding to reject God".
😂
@@blondequijote
Because they are in a CULT.
What bothers me so much is that there is a clear difference between romantic love and familial love. Calling yourself your daughter's "boyfriend" and having a ceremony that is very reminiscent to a wedding crosses VERY CLEAR boundaries and it isn't out of the ordinary to question when romantic language and practices are used in familial spaces. Plus it just gives pseudo-incestuous patriarchal power trip. It's putting the father in every meaningful position of a young lady's life to create a sense of spiritual dependence early in liife
Yeah. It feels manipulative.
Exactly. You can have a father daughter dance where dads get to dote on their daughters and tell them they are special and beautiful without the weird sex vibes. 😅
Not only that but if you grow up thinking your relationship with your father is like having a boyfriend, and you're fortunate enough to have a dad who doesn't abuse you, what happens when your naive self gets married and has to switch to an actual romantic and sexual relationship? It sounds to me like the perfect set up for some really weird and lasting trauma.
@@DimaRakesah It all tracks though because this is all about controlling young women in particular.
@@DimaRakesah the saddest thing is that research shows kids actually form their views about relationships from watching their parents. So if you want to teach your daughter what a good partner looks like, the most important thing is treating her mom well. And we know that these men are often very different in private to their partners than they are in public. :(
My 2 cats have more bodily autonomy than any of these girls will have in their entire lives
Cuz deysosilly yesdeyare! Yeeyus!
And my cats had hysterectomies as babies. My choice. Then they are mostly indoor cats. They just won’t listen to me about baby making and my limited budget.
fr these cats have more power over me than humans do. a human could never get away with running up to me and stealing a chicken nugget right out of my mouth.
Are they spayed/neutered?
The contrast between these parents' obsession with sexual purity and the childish behavior of the kids is disturbing. The girls are singing let it go, one of them is wearing sneakers under her white dress, and they're having fun with their peers. The boy literally said that he's "a man now" in a puberty voice and cheering as he put on a knight helmet like any kid would. The clip of that little girl saying she wants to "give her husband all of her" was nauseating. She looks like she's in third grade. She still calls her parents mommy/daddy. She's crying as she gives the speech in front of her dad who's rubbing her shoulder in such an uncomfortable way given the context. I feel like that clip alone warrants an FBI raid
When I was 15, my mom sat me down and told me we were going to the doctor to get birth control pills. She said that it was ridiculous, stupid, and unrealistic to expect me or any other teen to completely abstain. And that it would be equally as stupid for me to not be on birth control as a precaution. She also said that she hoped I would wait for the "right person", but she ultimately had no control over that. But, she did have control over making sure I was educated about being protected against unwanted pregnancy.
Hearing the mother from the video say that birth control was out of the question because there would be absolutely no sex before marriage, is crazy. And stupid.
I think forcing you to be on the pill is almost as bad as parents not letting their kids take birth control. Medications have side effects, and teens should get a say in their health.
@@marywynne7931Yeah, this is a little odd lol. I’d get it if she did that as a response to knowing she was active, but to just get it randomly without knowing if she was actually having sex at that age is…
@@marywynne7931yeah birth control pills messed with me so bad, but my mum was good and took me to the doctor when I asked to go on them. And was supportive at finding other options when it made me sui
@@Hon3yBee112It’s better to have it on hand BEFORE having ever had sex because you have to take it several days for it be effective. Teens get caught in the moment.
@@marywynne7931Any smart sexually active teen wouldn’t be against BC. There’s multiple options to explore where some may work and some don’t but pills are just the starting point. The brain isn’t done developing until about 25. A teen may not understand that at their age the risks are lower esp if they’re active, don’t smoke etc. It’s way safer than a pregnancy by a wide margin.
Every year, my town recreation center held a "daddy daughter dance." It was around valentine's day. It was a totally secular event: no weird purity rings, Bible verses... swords. It was simply a special night to celebrate the relationship between a father and a daughter.
So when that guy says "there's nothing wrong with a daddy taking his daughter on a date"... no, there isn't. I have great memories from the daddy daughter dances. But that's because that wasn't all weird and Freudian and official and... creepy. It was a fun, special night out with my dad. It's important for dads to bond with their daughters, but for the love of God, this is not the way to do it.
This this this
Exactly!
Fun night out for girls and their dads to dance together and have a bonding moment = not creepy
Girls pledging their virginity to their dads and calling their dads their boyfriends = extremely creepy
I do think the focus on cross gender parent relationships (mommas boy and daddy’s girl) is a little strange… its almost putting a hetero dynamic onto parental love? Like why are there no mommy daughter dances or daddy son dances?
@@TheVivaciousNerd I think it's because mommies and daughters and daddies and sons are supposed to do their gendered activities together. Like, I dunno... cooking for girls, fishing for dads?
That dynamic didn't really exist in my house in the 1st place.
Yeah, and he was obviously deflecting at that part because the question she asked was about how it's weird to call yourself your daughters boyfriend. But he made it about just hanging out with his daughter, which is of course normal.
Here's my question: if Ron Johnson went out with his son, would he call it a "date"?
🎯🎯🎯
THIS!
They are the party of weird
Great one! 👏👏
*Mike Johnson
"There are predators in here" is what they should be saying. So weird and creepy.
Every accusation is really a confession.
@@maryeckel9682 it's the smiles on the dads that make me want to vomit.
The call is coming from inside the house.
“This book about two boy penguins raising an egg is too adult for these kids”
-people who make their kids read Dress Me Like A Princess and talking about covering bits from wandering eyes with their 7 year olds
Nothing wrong with dads hanging out with their daughters, *but this is a completely different thing.*
Many of them probably don't know a lot about what their daughters are actually like as people and what their interests are. I don't think they see them as actual people and don't spend normal quality time together.
In the words of my father, talking about why he stopped taking us to a church that did stuff like this- "Normal guys don't think about their daughters like that this often."
Dad wasn’t telling any lies. 👍🏽
This whole things makes me deeply uncomfortable. I can't help but suspect a large number of these "fathers" cross unspeakable boundaries in the name of religion. Which seems pretty status quo at this point.
I kind of doubt that. This kind of thing takes the place of that, it's covert incest (maybe not THAT covert lol).
Then you should the Bible! There's a lot of things going on there, from two daughters who raped their father to a father who sacrificed his daughter to win in battle. Fun stuff!
And that dad who kept rubbing his young daughter’s bare shoulder while he stands there preaching. [shudder]
Yeah, I was just thinking the same thing.... There's no way most of those dads aren't pedos.... When that girl said "I don't need a boyfriend because I have my dad.", I wanted to barf..... 🤮
Agreed
I remember our church did this once. We thought it was good since all the Christian churches were doing it. But it felt really weird trying to replicate it in an all-black, Pentecostal city church. No matter how much we tried, there was always this glaring, obvious feeling that “purity” didn't mean to include us…. All the materials reflected young, innocent, white, blonde-haired , thin, pretty blue-eyed girls. (All the brown-eyed brunettes, wavy, curly, or kinky haired, overweight, freckled faced, pale skinned, brown-, red-, or dark-skinned and very ethnic looking girls, poor girls, and fatherless girls be damned, because there were none to be found in not a single brochure or video.)
Looking back on it now, with more knowledge about the rise of the evangelical/white Christian nationalism movement… I can't help but to feel that purity culture wasn’t about “protecting” the chastity of their daughters, but a modern iteration influenced of our country’s history of slavery/racism, misogyny/noir (ie, “protecting” the “pure” masters wife from being defiled by the sex-hungry slave, while simultaneously s*xually abusing female slaves, ie, Sara Baartman, Sally Hemmings, etc). Maybe I’m overly sensitive, but that’s how it felt to me… along with the effed up creepiness every other non-black normal person felt, lol. That’s sh*t was still weird.
This
I never considered it that way!!! But omg you're right, it's all white, blond hair blue eye little girls
No, you're definitely onto something. It's giving thinly veiled eugenics.
@@KateKanenator that’s a very scary and very valid point. Eeeehhh 😬
Dude watching this video I was like “weird southern belle/antebellum shenanigans”
Like I’m watching a documentary about them trying to replicate the wealthy antebellum era
the constant petting and touching makes my skin crawl
As someone who works with social history especially of the 19th century, it always strikes me when people say this sort of thing is "old-fashioned" or "archaic." Because a lot of people don't realize that, while it IS an archaic view of sex before marriage...this would have looked just as weird to the Victorians. Girls under age 16-ish attending a ball? Mixing religion and formal dances? Ritualistic cross ballet? Dancing exclusively with, not just one man, but your FATHER all evening long (not necessarily scandalous, but strange and rude at a social event)? Furthermore, girls of ball-appropriate age not getting to dance with and interact with young men they might want to court- suitors who would commonly be chosen by THEM, not their parents (albeit more subject to parental approval and with the expectation of no premarital sex)? Sex pledges? Hell no!
Not only is this not normal now, this has NEVER BEEN NORMAL. And I feel like that's important for people to realize, so they can't unintentionally legitimize it as a "return to old-fashioned values."
My twice divorced father who lived with his second and third wives before he married them, decided to try and shame me for moving in fiancé before marriage. He got upset when I pointed that out.
Ugh sounds like typical religious double standards.
Classic behavior of hypocrite
Good on you for pointing thar out! 💗
One of the dads in the weird swords and ballerinas documentary had a bunch of kids from different women and basically told the daughters he took to the purity ball that he didn't want them to do what he did
@@supercrazylegs1 Except he was a lapsed Catholic if not an outright atheist.
If these people want us to stop calling them weird, they really need to stop acting so damn weird.
Oh god, I posted this before the whole Key thing. WTF.
A neglectful father and an overinvolved father both do psychological damage. We shouldn't have to recover from our childhoods but here we are.
So true 💔
"There are predators out there", but for one night, they are all here.
That threw me because in what world does a predator give a crap about a contract? That you promise your dad you wouldn't? A true blue predator can get past all of that. In the end all it does ( if you follow his thinking) is set your child up to feel guilty if someone does hurt them and that's a shame.
Jen wants to know "what's with the swords?"
1) stabby stabby weapon
2) phallic symbol
3) ooh, shiny
The caresses some of the men gave their daughters made my skin crawl.
Omg yes!! I don’t think all those kids were happy with it either but I’m pretty biased.
Yep I noticed that too
Yes... like I am really close with my dad, we have a great friendship, long talks, hug each other etc. and that's awesome, but there's something subtle in the specific way these men interact with their daughters that has the hairs on the back of my neck raising... lingering caressing touches on bare skin, pseudo-romantic hand-holding, close dancing, gazing intently into each others' eyes... the 'authority' and entitlement of the father, viewing himself almost literally as a stand-in for god, while the girls obediently recite phrases they've been coached in their whole young lives, only allowed to think what their fathers tell them to think... and there's something in the weird little smirk these guys all get when they start talking about their daughters' sexuality, body, purity... "young girls have a need for physical touch from a male figure, and until she's married the father can fill that role"... uuuggghh. The red flags are waving, the lights are flashing, the sirens are blaring, something is wrong!
@@shockofthenew "need for physical touch" yes, kids want their parents to hug them. It has Nothing to do with puberty hormones when they look at other middle/high schoolers. The fact they can't see that? Or don't want to admit it? is so very wrong.
Also, like, for normal people, fathers do spend one-on-one time or go to events with their daughters. It's called being a parent and taking an interest in your kid?
Hell, the Girl Scouts puts on Daddy-Daughter Dances! But tone it sets is "girls usually enjoy the idea of getting dressed special and dancing. come do that, we'll put sherbet and soda in the store-brand kool-aid, play Dad-rock, and we'll all have a fun time while she's still young enough not to find your Parent-Dancing (TM) embarrassing" And it doesn't get weird overtones, because fathers aren't being a stand-in for romantic partners! They're being a stand-in for parent! Which is what they are!
Their computers need to be checked.
'Pure' was SO good. My daughter and I were cheering at the end of it. Her Dad (my ex husband) tried to get her to go to to a purity ball. She was like 'I'm a Hellenic poly-theistic lesbian Dad, fuck no!'
Pure was so good! My son had me watch it.
I’m a huge fan of Sailor J who played the lead in Pure. It was surprisingly cathartic and motivated me to start deconstructing purity culture (thankfully never attended a ball). I recommend the rest of the Into the Dark series. (I recommend Pilgrim if you haven’t seen it before)
@@JuriAmari Sailor Jupiter?!😂😂😂😂
I enjoyed Pure, though it had its week points (the one guy coughing up black stuff, which is never mentioned again??). the part i found most odd, though, was a film about a decidedly Christian subject relying so heavily on a Jewish figure, which it also misrepresents in the narrative.
@@iso-didact789the lead in that movie was a TH-camr for a short time known as Sailor J. Highly recommend her videos for a quick laugh, she did parodies of makeup tutorials
I think this whole thing really speaks to how this culture views marriages between men and women. to these fathers, their daughter's future husband isn't supposed to be an equal partner who respects their daughter's personhood. they're the man that's going to take over their job of guiding and "protecting" their daughters. a husband is a wife's authority figure in the same way a parent is a child's. it's why they're so comfortable doing this because in their eyes, a father's role isn't that different from a husband's. . that's why they talk about their daughters not needing boyfriends because they already "fill that role." they literally think a husband is just a father that you have sex with.
That last sentence is powerful. I threw up a little. You nailed it!
And NONE of that is ok. Religion messes up so many people's lives.
Ew.
This is the origin of the 'giving away the bride' part of the wedding ceremony.
@@vylbird8014 Thank you! I'm never getting married, but that and many other "traditions" are symbolic of a transfer of property from a father to a husband and it's revolting. Asking permission from the bride's father? Yeah, that made sense when child brides were more prevalent, but if you're an adult, it's insulting. Why doesn't the bride have to get permission from the groom's mother? Rhetorical question, but yeah...🤮
My dad was too embarrassed to be involved in my personal life, but my mom had no boundaries and kept me from doing a lot of things. I grew up in the evangelical movement and in youth group we read a lot of books like “I kissed dating goodbye” “And the bride wore white” “do you think I’m beautiful?” And so forth.
Then, I was groped by someone in church. They gave us stranger danger regarding random creeps and boyfriends and didn’t vet the jerks in their own church.
Just wait till they discover Sex anxiety or post-sex guilt and depression ^w^ Because once they get married, and have sex, they aren't told about the CRUSHING guilt they feel because now they are "no longer clean"- anymore. My ex friend who got married in her 20's, was TERRIFIED of having sex with her husband because she would be losing her purity! They didn't have sex for another 3 years!!! I believe she had to go to therapy to unlearn the guilt and shame of having sex and losing her 'value' as a woman once she lost it. It is SICK!
I am a Southern Baptist survivor from Texas. My mother was Scarlett O'Hara on acid. I received this type of training from her. I am an artsy, open-minded person by nature. All of this shite is confusing as hell when you are inclined to question things. I'm 60. I am almost over it, and BLISFULLY SINGLE NOW!! ❤
Same here
Oh hell yeah 🎉
Gov. Walz was absolutely right about these people! They.Are.Weird.
And creepy!
We Stan gov walz
@@amberjames3532 pervy creepy at that.
We stan Gus Walz!
The German reporter said it first 😂
This is such an ego trip for the fathers. It's all about control and "I'm the head of the house" and "I will approve of your future husband" and "our daughters need us to protect them" blah blah blah. Like all of these over-the-top Christian groups, it's all about making men feel important and feel better than everyone.
Maybe I had a demonic upbringing, but I have never in real life heard any girl or woman anywhere say, "I want to date a man just like my dad!" I'm sure that these girls at the purity balls are repeating this line just to appease their dads.
I've seen women with healthy relationships with their dads say they'd want to marry someone like him.
However these obviously sheltered girls and women in the documentary seem like they love their dad but it's not healthy.
Hope that makes sense.
I've heard young-young kids (like, below 6) say it, but it's just as likely to be 'wanna marry someone just like my mom/babysitter/ teacher/ other frequent carer'? Like, it's pretty clear that kids that young understand marriage as Official BFF For Serious, rather than actually knowing.
And it's not uncommon to replicate your parent's relationship in some ways as an adult, since it is the first couple pattern most people see. So it's not weird for people to compare aspects to that (to avoid or look for). But I see that as on the same level as any other red/green flag marker? And it's more relationship dynamics than c/p parent to partner
But yeah, never heard it from anyone past puberty, nor have I seen anyone say 'reminds me of parent' as a pro for dating someone. Anti, oh yes.
@@tacrewgirl Maybe I just have never heard anyone say it like that. My mother for example has said that she wished my father was as handy and helpful around the house as her own father was (my dad cannot build or fix anything) but never worded it as, "I wish I married someone like my dad."
@@bore-aliss That does make sense. Young children don't have an understanding of how grown-up relationships work. For example, a little girl in my family said that when she grew up and got married, she and her husband would still live at home and sleep in Mommy and Daddy's bed with them. And when she said that, everyone laughed and thought it was a cute thing for a little kid to say.
But this whole idea of "all girls want to feel beautiful, and if their father doesn't tell them they're beautiful, then they'll seek out that validation from other men, so their father has to fill that role for her until she's married" is crazy. Yes, parents should encourage their children, and boost their confidence, and be there for them. But parent/child relationships are not boyfriend/girlfriend relationships. They're separate. And it's gross that these men actually enjoy this dynamic.
And it's like these men have no concept that their daughters even want to have romantic relationships, much less have sex. They act like all these girls want is protection, guidance, and hugs from a male figure, and she can get all of that from Dad. But Dad is not the cute boy in math class. Dad cannot (and should not) fill the role of a romantic partner. And I wonder why these crazy Christians don't see that.
There’s an episode of one of the Bates’ reality shows where a couple of the older girls (I think Erin was one) are asked who they’d like to marry, and they gush about how they want to marry someone just like their dad. I remember thinking that it was a little too over-the-top in terms of praise and how quickly they came out with that as their answer. It had me wondering how much these mindsets are baked in from an early age.
hearing the audience laugh after the director remarked on the girl saying she didn't know a woman could be a camera woman broke me. It was already insanely depressing but I just burst into tears at how sad it was.
"There's this need for this physical touch from a male being, and thats what I believe the father role is."
Ew ew ew ew ew a thousand times over in every way, that sounds so gross?!? Why?!
“I need to know where this guy was on January 6th” Is something I constantly say which is funny but also scary
Instead of being taken to a purity ball, my mother gave me the book “purity myth” and at 13 I think that was the better option
IIRC when Jessica Valenti wrote The Purity Myth she felt creeped out when she saw the footage of a purity ball and when she showed it to her dad, her dad was also instantly creeped out too and said, "Jessica, that's very weird."
My hippie mom pointed out The Joy of Sex book on the family bookshelf. This did not go over well with the neighborhood parents. Lol
Kudos to your mom!
@@Claudia-cr2pm so did you read it?
@@Claudia-cr2pm lol I found that book in my parents room once, I never snooped again.
The creepiness of all this to me is less that I worry about father's placing themselves in the role of the daughter's "boyfriend" because most of these men aren't genuinely engaging in a sexual relationship with their daughter, and more the flip side- that they are conflating their daughter's future husband with the role of a father. It's pre-emptively infantalizing their daughter's future adult selves and telling them that they will always need someone to guide them and "keep them safe" the way a father is supposed to.
Well yeah that‘s just general misogyny stuff u see in hardcore christians like these. They kinda have to equate women with children to justify ruling over them in adulthood. If one was to recognize a woman‘s adulthood it‘d be infinitely more difficult to justify ruling over them. It‘s giving dictator and that usually doesn‘t make em feel as good as when they see themselves as their wives new father. Not to mention also that this is also just a further part of control. Control over their daughters and also the husbands of them being given the wife by the fathers. It‘s a very old school type of sexism. The only difference being that this is now a fringe type thing while this was the norm before 1913 for all women. The bible has been used a lot in those days to justify the slavery of women for men‘s benefit. One telling part is how the bible was rewritten to appear more sexist. Women roles were usually altered in subtle ways to discredit their part in the bible‘s stories and their heroism. And adam being split into 2 to create eve was changed to just a „rib“ to demean how important eve was. These were changes made by King James that were altering the canon of the text to support the woman hating agenda of the time. And that is certainly wild cause the bible really isn‘t pro women even in canon. But still they had to make it even more anti woman that just tells you how much they dispise women being their other half. An equal. Someone not meant to be controlled. And I think this control over women is a big part of what makes men in these groups so happy with this faith because they get to play god over their wives. Wives have to give up their entire humanity but they, the men can play god themselves. So in such a fundamentally unfair power system the only way to lure women in and make them think of it as good is to shame them for being women. To shame and condemn their nature and humanity. To groom them into being perpetual children for life. And to think that being some man‘s slave and se* object is something noble. God in the case of these women is used as some kind of bandaid for all the bad. If you are scared of your husband, dislike him, don‘t want him then go to your imaginary friend to cope. God is a vehicle to keep them sane in that power structure. And therefor serving god is a distraction from the horror of being a domestic slave. Cause you still have that imaginary friend to be in love with essentially to cope with your aweful situation. It‘s stockholm syndrome pretty much. And the men are just power tripping while also trying to justify to themselves with their daughters that this is somehow ethical. Maybe it‘s even them trying to escape the guilt of a wife that doesn‘t love them back. To project this fantasy as a father onto their kids to think that somehow what they are doing is loving and paternal. Even though their wives tell them in these videos that they don‘t love their husbands or want them but just do it out of obligation. For these fathers these balls are a cope. Deluding themselves into the idea that they are not the thing they fear they are. While being that thing regardless.
"Being gay or dressing immodestly is wrong. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go put on my shirtless, sexy, leather gladiator outfit."
I worked for a non profit in AZ that was funded by an abstinence grant, and I was a health educator. I had to teach ONE class each semester about abstinence to each class, and I wasnt allowed to give out condoms "during class." Let me tell you, I gave out hundreds of condoms after class hours ended. Literally would announce "come to me after class ends if you need anything". I had so many students saying they'd have to steal them etc, and I'd give them like 50 condoms 😂 I was doing "God's" work funded by abstinence & all the students loved me.
I'm a Christian, and I swear, with each FF video I become more and more aware of how much I REALLY dodged a bullet with not having ultra weirdo Conservative parents, especially considering my dad was a Southern Baptist pastor in a small Texas town.
Same my mother was a Sunday school teacher but purity was not pushed on me they told me it was better to wait but it wasn't really pushed
The SBC has its own weird shit that they do, so they’re not completely innocent.
@@CheyenneTerry970 I’m not saying my parents were perfect, but there’s definitely a reason we aren’t Southern Baptists anymore.
Hopefully you were spared the therapy bills because it’s not great on the other side
Same. My mom is a Pentecostal woman from Arkansas but in the “love people and give the rest to God” way not… this way
Some of these girls are so young, they don’t even need to be thinking of this shit.
Some of the dancers didn't look older than 10. 😢
That’s what I was thinking. When I was in the purity culture homeschooled world, all our “godly womanhood” and purity Bible studies were all 14 and up, but some of those girls as SO YOUNG. Which WILD since this is the same group raising pitchforks against librarians and teachers for acknowledging that gay people exists because that’s “sexual” and anyone under 18 is too young for that. 😕
Yes!! It boggles the mind because they are overdoing some of it at too young an age, but then not teaching their kids, for example, basics about their bodies until WAY too late.
I'm not even Christian and I was squinting at a lot of them wondering if it was even really appropriate for them to be wearing these strapless gowns with those necklines, much less in a church context. I think that's a totally fine thing for adults, but some of these girls looked way too young for even the dresses, much less the content.
@@NassifehI thought how much did they have to spend on alterations because these wedding gowns were not made for these tiny prepubescent bodies. I can’t imagine how much fabric had to be taken in and cut off the bottom!
I grew up in the same community as Randy Wilson and attended some dances at their church (swing, not purity, lol). I had a huge crush on their son lmao. Everyone was so standoffish, especially with me as I was somewhat an outsider. The Wilson’s were very charismatic and I even danced with Randy Wilson at one point. Looking back, it’s insane how cultish the whole community was and how, if their son had reciprocated my feelings, I might never have escaped what I essentially stumbled into.
Dodged the fundie bullet
13:45 reminds me of a prisoner reading out the demands of a captive. Her father's hand stroking her shoulder is honestly disturbing... I hope these girls can grow up and live for their dreams. Not their fathers dreams.
Me screaming internally at a lot of the ball footage: DO NOT RUB THE BACK OF YOUR DAUGHTER'S NECK OR SHOULDER LIKE THAT. THAT IS GROSS EW EW EW STOP
*uses language commonly reserved for romantic and sexual relationships* “WHY SO PEOPLE THINK ME CALLING MYAELF MY DAUGHTERS BOYFRIEND IS SEXUAL??”
I feel so bad for the little girls in the footage of the “ball”, you can see how so many of them are forcing smiles and look uncomfortable. When that little girl was giving her speech and cried I felt so sad bc she seemed to choke up as soon as he touched her shoulder
Yeah. I knew pretty much immediately she’s likely being abused.
When my friend was coerced and assaulted by her boyfriend, an man her dad hoped she'd get married to someday, she was so afraid to tell him because of shit like this. Also the only reason he(dad) wasn't upset with her is because it wasn't P&V. I always watch your videos Rev Jen, but I'm tapping out this time. Keep up the good work though.
I’m so sorry that happened to your friend. Watching this video just makes me think about all those girls who are raised in a purity mindset who have been assaulted. They say it’s the father’s responsibility to protect their daughters, so in theory wouldn’t they carry the guilt because they were supposed to protect them? Realistically they probably would just blame the girls which is so unfortunate, which would make the whole thing ironic
@@thesupremeleader3467 Oh totally they blame the girls most of the time. The father isn't really "protecting" them, he is controlling them. That's why it's so common for these girls to be assaulted by family or close friends of the family. The father looks the other way, or is actively involved, because he sees his daughter's body as his property to control. "Protection" us just the excuse for why they have control over her. When a man fs up, a girl/woman will get the blame.
@@thesupremeleader3467Exactly, they can’t come down from their pedestal and admit that the failed to protect, so they blame the daughter. So unbelievably sad.
"well at least she's still technically a virgin." That Dad, probably.
That bald dad early on equating the question about being a stand in boyfriend for his daughter as people being against 1 on 1 father/daughter time and physical affection is ABSOLUTELY WILD.
I grew up in a “kiss on the lips” family and my dad was my main parent from ages 13-18+ and we spent a lot of time together due to our shared interests (dogs) and yet he was never, ever, even remotely close to a boyfriend surrogate for me.
"we long for manly men" and now I'm singing men in tights.
I grew up on a farm. Males "covering" females has a VERY DIFFERENT MEANING when you are talking about sheep or cows instead of people. I cannot compute this. My brain just blue screened.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one whose brain had issues with that wording. In my case, it's from reading books that take place on ranches.
What's the other meaning?
@liminalgamer935 having enough rams or bulls in the herd to make sure all the ewes or cows are impregnated at the right time of year. Additionally, it can be an actual euphemism for breeding. Which is why dads talking about covering their daughters actually makes my brain cramp.
“How can the culture twist something as innocent as me taking my daughter out??”
Sir, you damn well know that the issue isn’t that you do activities with your daughter. That’s normal. What’s not normal is calling yourself your daughter’s friend. Be so for real.
*boyfriend
It's weird that he immediately followed it by saying he has them sit on his lap and snuggle. If it were a metaphor why is he jumping to the physical stuff...
@@SpecialBlanket Inviting your 4-yr old to jump in your lap and snuggle is sweet. Inviting your 15-yr old to do it is moral degenerate behavior.
@@kylegonewildNot necessarily, platonic affection is fine, it's calling himself his daughter's first boyfriend and seeking out physical affection that makes it weird. It feels like he is sexualizing normal actions because if some guy does it then it is.
@@kylegonewild Ehh, I'm in my 40s and still down for a good Dad snuggle.
So sad to see young women's autonomy forcibly stripped from them at such a young age. This reminds me of when I saw my male pediatrician for a UTI when I was 13 and he asked me if I was saving myself for marriage. I feel so angry thinking about it now as an adult.
That's so wild for a doctor to say to anyone let alone a 13 YEAR OLD. I'm sorry you had to deal with that.
Also, shouldn't a doctor know there are a lot of different ways to get a UTI? Same for yeast infections...
My Dad once told me I reminded him of a giraffe...because I'm so long and awkward looking. Never been happier to have a regular dorky Dad than while watching this 😂
HOLY SHIT the father is his daughters’ “KEY” for his daughters’ purity… 😬😳that’s pretty phallic my guy
It goes without saying how damaging this is to women and girls (and Jen has already said it very eloquently), but it always gets me how degrading this mindset is to men as well. Men you don't know are all predators, and the men you do know are protectors who could, at any moment, become predators if you move your body the wrong way or wear the wrong thing. They're literally so dangerous that girls need lessons in how to move in order not to provoke them. It's so bleak that these men think of themselves and each other this way. And that their solution is always located elsewhere (in control of women and girls), like they don't even think it's worthwhile or possible trying to do anything about their horrifying versions of men.
Because if they held men accountable and gave out real consequences they’d have to deal with all the violence that is directed towards women getting refocused onto them. They KNOW what to do, they KNOW what women are saying we go through is TRUE but they don’t want to deal with it unless you “belong “ to them in some capacity and even then they may temporarily cut ties,leaving you vulnerable. Coming back only to coerce control by faking being a potential protector.
Perhaps these fathers would do better helping the world if they focused on their SON'S not becoming rapists,
Say it louder for the people in the back. Facts facts facts.
Well in patriarchy the system is designed to put men in charge, but not hold them accountable. Women/girls and minorities are scapegoats for their mistakes. Think about all the times a boy/man does something clearly wrong, but it gets blamed on a girl/woman or someone LGBTQ, another race, or religion, etc. Patriarchy has to constantly justify why men should be in charge, and to do that it needs to make them appear "better" than all the people they are in charge of, so of course, everyone else gets blamed for their mistakes. If we actually held them accountable it would be clear many of them shouldn't be in charge. Religious extremism is always about creating and maintaining the power structure, first and foremost. The rest is just fluff to justify it.
I’d forgotten that I was in some of those classes, ew 🤢
I will always be grateful for the bluntness of that German reporter!
It's nice to to see that honest media exists in other parts of the world 🌍❤
I hate the idea that someone is "impure" just because they've had sex. And usually just the women are called that tbh.
It’s pure misogyny. The way I’ve met many Christian men who had sex before marriage and got not as nearly enough criticism as a Christian woman is insane.
It's because carnality is dirty
So, I tried watching the Virgin Tales. 😳I couldn't finish it. Got almost half way through. I don't think I realized JUST how fundamentalist my upbringing was until I started watching that and realized I was only about 1 degree off from their particular "upbringing." Thank God my dad wasn't a creep like that, but WOW. I knew each and every line of rhetoric that popped up, almost verbatim. It was disturbing AF. Watch with caution!!! Thanks, Fundie Fridays, for your amazeballs content, as always.
The way they hold those Andúril replicas gives me a headache. If you wanna wave around some cool sword cause you’re fighting evil cause you’re such a great leader, at least google for one second how to properly hold a sword.
Aragorn, son of Arathorn would be disappointed.
18:30 A "servant's mindset" encourages weaponized incompetence in men. This is exactly why my brothers in their 30s don't know how to cook a chicken breast or boil rice.
In a book about how to raise children frugally, the author shares an encounter with an exchange student from Australia that stayed with them & he told her;"No ma'am, that isn't needed. My mum taught me how to cook, clean & iron."
She looked at her own little children & thought about how to teach them values & to be able to do practical stuff.
Manners & helping others are good, having the actual abilities is necessary. These cult-like parents are hampering their children's future lives.
Plenty of women don’t know bc they might be like I shouldn’t have to just bc I’m a woman
@@oooh19 why are so you mad at women?
@@Pfpfpfpfpf2020 I’m not I’m just saying that women are just expected to do some things bc of their gender and it shouldn’t be that way
@@LeafHuntress of course I read the line of the Australian kid with the most Aussie accent possible in my mind....
I’m 71, and was raised by Italian-American parents who trusted me to make good judgments. The mere idea of a purity ball would have creeped my dad TF out.
How ironic that they’re singing along to let it go, a song that is literally about personal freedom and not caring what society thinks of you and being brave enough to be who you are, all while being subjected to something that they probably had no say participating in
Tbh I'm surprised they are allowed to sing Let It Go 😂
The thing is, they don't even have to do something else to bond with their daughters, they could absolutely throw a ball and just not make it about sexual "purity"
Like I'm a trans guy, and admittedly I did not have a good relationship with my father while he was alive, but I could absolutely see how going to a fancy dance party with him would have been fun and perhaps would have helped us have a better relationship. But obviously not if it's centered around preaching to you about being a wife and a helpmeet.
When Tim Walz called them weird this was just one of the things he meant.
Yes but he's just another weirdo calling out other weirdos 😂
I'm a father to a 19 year old daughter. How any dad could be cool with this is unfathomable to me.
My mother fell under the spell of Dobson and the frc in the late 90s. She really believed all they said and tried to force me to believe it as well. For a time I believed it too, until a not good uncle was exposed for you know and the church protected him. We were told to forgive him and still speak to him. We were also told maybe his victims asked for it or did something to entice him, like dude his victims were between 5 and 11. No he was just bad. He died of testicular cancer, we didn't cry or attend his funeral. Nothing good comes from the frc.
I'm sorry that happened. It's infuriating that they not only downplayed what he did but also blamed the victims.
Nothing is ever the man's fault in these Christian groups.
Ball cancer? Nice.😈
@@iso-didact789 Karma 😅
@@tiale1994 That was Gods judgement just like Herod got them et by worms.
Snuggling with your kid on the couch while watching a movie isn’t the creepy Freudian part lol. It’s the wedding like ceremony, a preteen announcing they don’t need a boyfriend because they have their dad, the tear filled admission by the preteen that they want their future husband to be exactly like their dad… Unsettling and disturbing to say the least.
The dads in this made me feel physically ill at points
This reminds me so much of the SVU episode where a 13 year old discovers she’s pregnant after going into labor at a purity ball with her father. The fictional 13 year old belongs to a popular you tube family, and after an investigation, they discover that their pastor is the father of the 13 year old’s baby. I think the episode is SVU season 17 episode 7. Insanity.
I think it's based off of this and the Duggars
This is some freaky incestuous stuff. I'd call CPS if anyone said they were their daughter's 'boyfriend' or that they went on 'dates' with them
13:56 that poor girl looks terrified; I feel that hand on her shoulder, that controlling gesture, that Mark of MINE, that instinctual, possessive, intrusive pat of the ABUSER ... in public. What is he doing to her privately...?... This scene is more terrifying to me than a whole gang of flying spiders with lasers shooting from _all_ of their eyes, on fire, spitting napalm, with living webs that burrow into your skin.
No normal girl her age would act like that. She is trained to speak nicely about dad at best. To please him with praising him. That is already sick that you are responsible to make parents happy. But probably more there 😢😢😢😢
That - to me - was truly horrific. She looked terrified, poor child.
Ohhh god, how her voice is breaking, how completely obvious it is that nothing she says is honest. This could be used as an educational tool to detect when someone's being coerced! And the creepiest part is how everyone in the room seems to just blindly believe she's happy?? She literally panics worse the more he keeps stroking her, dear GOD that's disturbing!
I'm socially awkward. After primary school, I became REALLY physical avoidant with my parents (and everyone else), even though no one ever touched me inappropriately.
So, why do I still cringe with this video? Because my parents noticed I didn't like to be touched, so they just abstained to touch me.
That dance bit with the cross and everything is the most irl midsommar ish ive EVER seen
Wait. The dude that has his kids on their knees before him for his blessing every week is blessing his already married daughter? Uh, shouldn’t she and her husband cleaved together and separated themselves from their parents? And the daughter that needs her dad to tell her she’s beautiful is so sad. Instead of helping her build her self esteem the parents keep her dependent on her father
Sadly, that’s par for the course with the Christian Patriarchy movement. Look into Doug Philips and Geoff Botkin - their ideas about the role of the father will turn your hair white.
My dad made my all my sisters (despite only having personally fathered one of them) feel loved and beautiful and supported and he didn't need to be weirdly in their personal business and overly touchy in public with them to do it. It's crazy these people can't conceptualize a normal human relationship between anyone. The amount of mid-20s to early-40s former "purity culture" or other fundamentalist Christian nonsense crash outs speaks for itself. That's where ol' reliable No True Scotsman kicks in and actually they did it wrong (they did exactly what they were told they were supposed to do).
The whole thing with the sword wedged a kind of Bruce Greenwood-starring reboot of the Stepfather horror franchise into my head.
Many of these so called fathers keep control over their daughters entire lives
@@RepublicofGilead-br4uvNot to mention your stomach.
The irony of those girls singing "Let It Go", a song about throwing off good-girl expectations placed on you by society and family, while swearing vows to be Good Girls...🤦🏼♀️
12:20 "something as pure as a daddy going on a date with his daughter" SIR WHAT?