We absolutely can't let them ruin our mood at all! Taking the time for negativity instead of good heart-felt advice, and helping to educate others is more difficult, but it is always the high road!
great to see you back. dont worry about the negative comments. there will always be a hater. only the people that track understand it. mistakes or accidents happens. its the price of the racing game.
It was great to hang out with you this weekend. People with nothing good to say about your experience weren't there when we were all worried about you when it happened. You overcame a lot this weekend and had fun doing it. That's a win!
You've definitely improved as a driver, I'd say. Much smoother inputs, smoother weight transfers, and a much tighter 9 to 3 hands position. Keep it up bro 💪
Was great seeing you out there and getting back into the swing of things! First time back after a crash is very unnerving. Glad you were able to keep your head clear, and happy you learned a bit from the ride along! Very nice lap overall - especially Hogpen! That was one of my areas of focus this weekend and your advice there helped a bunch. I just need to get better consistency there. Hope to see you out there again in December!
Good on you for getting back on the horse and not hiding from your mistakes. Sad people would ridicule but I think a lot of people can learn from what you are sharing. I tracked my FK8 in the past without track insurance and if I ever take my FL5 to the track I’ll definitely be getting insurance!
welcome back! appreciate you taking time with me on the phone a few weeks ago. I was able to shave some time but still driving a bit tentative. Also appreciate the content on the channel. Keep it coming.
I think we get so focused on times that we forget to actually have fun. its good to get PRs but. not at the expense of having fun and have a good day out on track. Glad you back there, that takes some guts. You are right about the PS4S, they are junk on track, great street tires. I had to run them at the track a few weeks ago because had an issue with the track wheels they squirm, take long to heat up and grip and then overhead and go slick quick. I also have R5s (only on front ) but been having tons of issues with judering its driving me crazy.
Yeah I think either I did not bed them properly or something but had really bad juddering last track day, kind of ruined the say. Trying to drive with them daily to see if I can get rid of the deposits. But also thinking of going to ferodo 1.11s which is what I had on my m2 and were excellent (also way quieter, the r5s squeal like crazy all the time, the ferrodos only really did it when at the end of stopping)
Thats how you do it! From another fellow HPDE'er, its so refreshing to hear your humbled opinions. Everyone nowadays for some reason thinks their in TT their first time out in HPDE lol. So glad your well and pushing yourself to get back on the horse, there are no limits when your passionate about something! Loved hearing the shoutout to Tony in his GTI, great super smart guy! I want to get out there at a Tidewater event, between your experience and things Tony has mentioned, it certainly sounds chill! This is what HPDE is all about! Have fun! Work up to the pace, test the limits while your still in control, and just have as much fun as you can!! Just got back from Hyperfest running with NASA HPDE 2 and 3 groups (5th year at HF!), its been literal years tracking my civic a few HPDE events per year, but this outting I had more fun this time than I have had my entire HPDE career so far. I'm getting more and more comfortable trusting this wild contraption I've spent almost a decade building hahaha. Let me know what events you plan on doing this year, or even possibly next year, I'd love to bring the car out and meet you!
So far the only thing I have on tap is the Racing for ALS in September at VIR. I've likely been out there with you before! I was at HyperFest two years ago in my old FK8!
Glad you got back out there dude. Some really great insights too. I have gone for Motul 700 fluid this time around and will be trying PBS pads all round. I found the MPS4S to be loose as well.
@@pointbypatrol listen man, you are being honest and explaining things. Not all of us are massive TH-camrs sponsored by “________”. I Love the FL5 CTR and it fits my needs perfectly, but living way out in the middle of nowhere has its drawbacks. It’s good to get true tested info, and I appreciate you for that. P.S I live in middle America, in a town where there are no actual car people, sure there are folks who buy toys, but they never drive them. So keep it up man, it’s nice to see others going through trials and tribulations and overcoming them!
Great meeting you last weekend and glad you got back on the horse. Lots of fun at the TSCC events...a good group to run with. I rode with Tony as well and he definitely is a good one to try to emulate!
@pointbypatrol also...you can move to a Euro 40 grade if you want even more HTHS (>3.5) so any of the common Euro 5W40s that have VW502/Porsche A40/BMW LL01/MB229.5 approvals.
we all seen it, you were a bit reckless from your last crash and you were very aggressive. you've definitely improved overall as a driver mentally which what really matters the most. lots of improvements and with time you'll become even better. great laps
I'm one of the new people who saw your crash video, and I just want to say a couple of things: First and foremost is holy crap!! I'm so glad that you're ok! That's some scary stuff. Second thing is a bit more critical of what happened... I didn't want to comment on your crash vid as that was not an appropriate time to do so, you had other crap to deal with. I do need to tell you this for your own safety and others on track with you. You mentioned having an instructor in the vehicle, but I would like to hear more about what feedback they had for you. I'm not an instructor but have attended many HPDE events and have had an instructor in my vehicle with me 95% of the time. My main observation is your hands. PLEASE work on your hand placement on the steering wheel. Your hands are a very major part of your feedback mechanism when it comes to determining your tires level grip on the track surface. If you are constantly shuffling around the wheel, you are not in sync with the wheel, steering column, steering rack, and ultimately the tires grip on the track surface. Always have your hands @ 9 and 3 unless you lose grip and need to counter steer. Use a light grip, no white knuckles, wiggle the fingers on stable straight aways to loosen up a bit, but always keep them at 9 and 3. If that makes you feel a bit confined during hairpin/tight turns, then you can adjust your column up/away to make a little more room for your elbows. Proper seating position is important. I really hope that this comes across as constructive criticism and not flaming as that is not my intent at all. Keep driving! Keep learning! Keep having fun!! That's what it's all about. EDIT: I notice that your lap starting around the 15 min mark looks much better than the previous vids I have watch when it comes to your hands. But you start to get lazy with that left hand at 16:02. Keep that hand locked in at 9:00. It was looking much better though! Keep at it.
I didn't because I have a mountain of parts for the Civic on the dining room table. They were never installed in the white car, so they'll be going in the black car!
@@pointbypatrol Ahh makes sense. I race motocross so I crash all the time but man... having an off in your car where you're a passenger for what seemed like an eternity must have been terrifying... But hey that's what polishes us and makes us better at our craft. Enjoy sir and thanks for sharing your journey.
Wonderful job. Thanks for sharing everything. Two questions-1. What is black car is that you were chasing? I’m currently watching around 20:35 mark. 2. I haven’t followed in the past and this video highlighted it. Do you have any plans to address the suspension bounce during at-limit turns? I own an FL5 and I know that bounce well. : )
The turbo is fed by oil on these cars, the oil tends to hit up quite a bit, but it's still within the safe range for the temperature that modern synthetics can see before degrading.
Motul 300v can handle up to 385 Fahrenheit before it starts to degrade, so well within safe margins. The Type R also has a 1.3 bar radiator cap, and did not sustain over 230 for long periods of time, which is fine. This was also at 87 degrees ambient. I called it a win!
Welcome back bud, as a fellow Type R crasher, don’t let the peanut gallery ruin your mood. Keep at it, keep having fun, and do your thing
We absolutely can't let them ruin our mood at all! Taking the time for negativity instead of good heart-felt advice, and helping to educate others is more difficult, but it is always the high road!
great to see you back. dont worry about the negative comments. there will always be a hater. only the people that track understand it. mistakes or accidents happens. its the price of the racing game.
It was great to hang out with you this weekend. People with nothing good to say about your experience weren't there when we were all worried about you when it happened. You overcame a lot this weekend and had fun doing it. That's a win!
Thank you!
You've definitely improved as a driver, I'd say.
Much smoother inputs, smoother weight transfers, and a much tighter 9 to 3 hands position.
Keep it up bro 💪
It only gets harder to be smooth as the speed increases since the cadence of reaction is increased. I fear that more than anything else!
Was great seeing you out there and getting back into the swing of things! First time back after a crash is very unnerving. Glad you were able to keep your head clear, and happy you learned a bit from the ride along!
Very nice lap overall - especially Hogpen! That was one of my areas of focus this weekend and your advice there helped a bunch. I just need to get better consistency there.
Hope to see you out there again in December!
Guys, this is THE Tony I was talking about! Check out his channel. He's been a huge inspiration of mine!
Hey Tony! It's Talon haha. I'm gonna try to come out to a Tidewater VIR event at some point this year and hang out!
@@drtalon1668 sounds great! TSCC will be back Dec 7-8. Registration will likely open in a few months. Keep an eye out on Motorsport Reg!
TSCC runs a tight ship 👍
Lol Ricky Bobby it 😅 glad you got back out. I don't think I could have after a wreck like that, so good on you man!
Tidewater is wonderful
Good on you for getting back on the horse and not hiding from your mistakes. Sad people would ridicule but I think a lot of people can learn from what you are sharing. I tracked my FK8 in the past without track insurance and if I ever take my FL5 to the track I’ll definitely be getting insurance!
It's worth EVERY CENT! Even despite the fight!
Great to see you're back! Your videos were part of my choice to buy an FL5 for the track, maybe I'll see you at VIR next month. :)
Which event are you attending?
@@pointbypatrol The SCDA event at VIR on June 24th. Drove with them at Watkins Glen last month and it was a really well-run event.
welcome back! appreciate you taking time with me on the phone a few weeks ago. I was able to shave some time but still driving a bit tentative. Also appreciate the content on the channel. Keep it coming.
Thanks again!
I think we get so focused on times that we forget to actually have fun. its good to get PRs but. not at the expense of having fun and have a good day out on track. Glad you back there, that takes some guts. You are right about the PS4S, they are junk on track, great street tires. I had to run them at the track a few weeks ago because had an issue with the track wheels they squirm, take long to heat up and grip and then overhead and go slick quick. I also have R5s (only on front ) but been having tons of issues with judering its driving me crazy.
The R5's seem to have a tendency to smear. I don't remember the R7's having that same issue. With decent tires R7's would be a good choice!
Yeah I think either I did not bed them properly or something but had really bad juddering last track day, kind of ruined the say. Trying to drive with them daily to see if I can get rid of the deposits. But also thinking of going to ferodo 1.11s which is what I had on my m2 and were excellent (also way quieter, the r5s squeal like crazy all the time, the ferrodos only really did it when at the end of stopping)
Thats how you do it! From another fellow HPDE'er, its so refreshing to hear your humbled opinions. Everyone nowadays for some reason thinks their in TT their first time out in HPDE lol. So glad your well and pushing yourself to get back on the horse, there are no limits when your passionate about something!
Loved hearing the shoutout to Tony in his GTI, great super smart guy! I want to get out there at a Tidewater event, between your experience and things Tony has mentioned, it certainly sounds chill!
This is what HPDE is all about! Have fun! Work up to the pace, test the limits while your still in control, and just have as much fun as you can!!
Just got back from Hyperfest running with NASA HPDE 2 and 3 groups (5th year at HF!), its been literal years tracking my civic a few HPDE events per year, but this outting I had more fun this time than I have had my entire HPDE career so far. I'm getting more and more comfortable trusting this wild contraption I've spent almost a decade building hahaha.
Let me know what events you plan on doing this year, or even possibly next year, I'd love to bring the car out and meet you!
So far the only thing I have on tap is the Racing for ALS in September at VIR. I've likely been out there with you before! I was at HyperFest two years ago in my old FK8!
Glad you got back out there dude. Some really great insights too. I have gone for Motul 700 fluid this time around and will be trying PBS pads all round. I found the MPS4S to be loose as well.
Give the SRF a shot! I decided against trying the Motul 700 due to the price. The SRF has been excellent!
Great car, and a honest man. I’m in, well done with this hobby and explaining things to us waaaaaay out here on the internet!
I'll continue to do my best! I may not always be right, but I sure as hell will try to be!
@@pointbypatrol listen man, you are being honest and explaining things. Not all of us are massive TH-camrs sponsored by “________”. I
Love the FL5 CTR and it fits my needs perfectly, but living way out in the middle of nowhere has its drawbacks. It’s good to get true tested info, and I appreciate you for that. P.S I live in middle America, in a town where there are no actual car people, sure there are folks who buy toys, but they never drive them. So keep it up man, it’s nice to see others going through trials and tribulations and overcoming them!
Glad you had fun! Before too long, you'll be even better!
Thank you! Just really need to work on the smoothness of my inputs at higher speeds!
Great meeting you last weekend and glad you got back on the horse. Lots of fun at the TSCC events...a good group to run with. I rode with Tony as well and he definitely is a good one to try to emulate!
It was good to meet you too! I'll be out there with you again!
@pointbypatrol also...you can move to a Euro 40 grade if you want even more HTHS (>3.5) so any of the common Euro 5W40s that have VW502/Porsche A40/BMW LL01/MB229.5 approvals.
great to see you out there again, love your take on things and how to build up towards fun sessions
Much appreciated!
Welcome back brotha. I look forward to more FL5 content
Thanks, man!
Hell yes! Love that you're back at it. Good stuff man!
More to come!
Nice driving!
Please dont stop making videos! Im awaiting seeing your brake fluid flush and other videos for noobs
Damn. That 4RS was movin
Yea dude. That thing was no joke!
Glad you're back!!
Nice to see you back on the track
we all seen it, you were a bit reckless from your last crash and you were very aggressive. you've definitely improved overall as a driver mentally which what really matters the most. lots of improvements and with time you'll become even better. great laps
Thank you!
@@pointbypatrol np!
Happy your in another fl5 brother
Back in black!
Nice pass on that Corvette also
I'm one of the new people who saw your crash video, and I just want to say a couple of things:
First and foremost is holy crap!! I'm so glad that you're ok! That's some scary stuff.
Second thing is a bit more critical of what happened... I didn't want to comment on your crash vid as that was not an appropriate time to do so, you had other crap to deal with. I do need to tell you this for your own safety and others on track with you.
You mentioned having an instructor in the vehicle, but I would like to hear more about what feedback they had for you. I'm not an instructor but have attended many HPDE events and have had an instructor in my vehicle with me 95% of the time. My main observation is your hands. PLEASE work on your hand placement on the steering wheel. Your hands are a very major part of your feedback mechanism when it comes to determining your tires level grip on the track surface. If you are constantly shuffling around the wheel, you are not in sync with the wheel, steering column, steering rack, and ultimately the tires grip on the track surface.
Always have your hands @ 9 and 3 unless you lose grip and need to counter steer. Use a light grip, no white knuckles, wiggle the fingers on stable straight aways to loosen up a bit, but always keep them at 9 and 3. If that makes you feel a bit confined during hairpin/tight turns, then you can adjust your column up/away to make a little more room for your elbows. Proper seating position is important.
I really hope that this comes across as constructive criticism and not flaming as that is not my intent at all. Keep driving! Keep learning! Keep having fun!! That's what it's all about.
EDIT: I notice that your lap starting around the 15 min mark looks much better than the previous vids I have watch when it comes to your hands. But you start to get lazy with that left hand at 16:02. Keep that hand locked in at 9:00.
It was looking much better though! Keep at it.
Hand placement and seating position were the exact feedback that I received!
@@pointbypatrol That is awesome. Good instructor!
Glad you are back.. Curious, with a new opportunity w a new car, did you ever consider anything else other than the FL5? a PCar, Corolla GR etc?
I didn't because I have a mountain of parts for the Civic on the dining room table. They were never installed in the white car, so they'll be going in the black car!
@@pointbypatrol Ahh makes sense. I race motocross so I crash all the time but man... having an off in your car where you're a passenger for what seemed like an eternity must have been terrifying... But hey that's what polishes us and makes us better at our craft. Enjoy sir and thanks for sharing your journey.
Wonderful job. Thanks for sharing everything. Two questions-1. What is black car is that you were chasing? I’m currently watching around 20:35 mark. 2. I haven’t followed in the past and this video highlighted it. Do you have any plans to address the suspension bounce during at-limit turns? I own an FL5 and I know that bounce well. : )
That was a BMW M3, and I'm unsure of their modifications. I don't really mind the bounce, as long as you're on throttle you're fine!
284 oil temp? Holy cow, is that normal? I’m used to the BRZ life where 240 gets me nervous.
The turbo is fed by oil on these cars, the oil tends to hit up quite a bit, but it's still within the safe range for the temperature that modern synthetics can see before degrading.
230 water temp!
285 Oil temp!
Motul 300v can handle up to 385 Fahrenheit before it starts to degrade, so well within safe margins. The Type R also has a 1.3 bar radiator cap, and did not sustain over 230 for long periods of time, which is fine. This was also at 87 degrees ambient. I called it a win!
@@pointbypatrol Nice! Thanks for the info!
Edit: Do you use this car as a daily at all? or only track
@@frandypena1733 I also daily the car!
People always complain about the cost of SRF yet are totally fine with constantly flushing RBF. lol SRF all the way!
SRF is such a no-brainer! I wish I had known about it even sooner!
Absolutely just go at a fun pace. Its not like your getting paid. Wreck again and your never getting insurance lmao 🤣
So what happened? Did insurance total the fl5 that you smashed? And you purchased another one?
Yes. The policy covered what I owed on the car.