I definitely think that declining self respect, manners, and effort is directly related to the fast food society where instant gratification reigns supreme. The fact that so many assume that dressing well equates to discomfort shows the declining lack of basic understanding of a great many things including sartorial wear.
I would say that the demand for instant gratification is one of the factors. There are others. When one sees movies with stars dressed “badly”, it becomes copied by many. So, perhaps, the decline in standards can be attributed to the herd mentality?
As a millennial woman in the Netherlands who values dressing appropriately for the occasion, I often stand out for looking 'fancy' (which really I do not!). My partner used to dress in frumpy athleisure wear while he actually wished he'd look more put together, but it seemed like too much of a hassle to him. I told him that putting on a button-up shirt, nice trousers and leather shoes can be done in the exact same amount of time and budget as dressing in a hoodie, jeans and sneakers. This realisation was a turning point for him to start dressing in a more classy casual style. He feels much happier about his appearance now and even receives compliments on his great sense of style regularly.
I attended a funeral last year in a black suit white shirt black tie black gloves and hat and polished black shoes i was asked by a family member of the deceased what I was dressed up for and I told him the reason. Respect
My reaction to your story was deflation. It’s a complete degradation of society. My colleague died a few years ago, and at her funeral a guy was wearing blue jeans and a red shirt. He was someone I knew and hadn’t seen for a while, so he came up to me to say hi, and I was so angry at his disrespectful appearance I snubbed him. When my best friend died 2 years ago, I bought a tailored black suit for the occasion. It’s about respect.
Last night I was at the French Ambassadors quarters. A ceremony in honour of my father,. He was awarded The Order of Arts and Letters. Of course he showed up, dressed up for the occation, black suit, a tie and a pocket square. And the shining medal underlined his elegant attire. He is 98.
Definitely a decline in our society. Recently decided to start wearing a suit and tie every day whether I had a place to go or not. It is amazing how people treat you differently. They look at you as someone of authority to be respected. The only problem is, I’m rebuilding my wardrobe, and I can’t even find a decent pair of wool trousers to go with a sportcoat. Everything is made out of polyester today. Unless you want to spend 600.00. Still trying to fight the good fight in Chicago.
I recently attended the funeral of a local farmer who was a hundred years of age when he died. About 250 men attended, without exception all wore a dark suit , white shirt, black tie and black shoes. I suppose it depends where one lives but I expected nothing less.
I wear a tie and jacket to work all the time now. I am always the most formally dressed person in the office on most days. When I go to the store I stand out. Many times I get compliments. I kind of enjoy being different than everyone else, and I do enjoy nice clothing. I also have a big problem with the cheap fast fashion crap being sold these days. Hopefully young people will realize that quality is more important than quantity.
In my work place I have had to underdress to fit in. I work in finance, at an office and I use to wear suit shirt tie and dress polished shoes. Now, I wear Oxford shirt with open neck and chinos with loafers. I still look overdressed, but my personality kicks in and I cannot even imagine showing up at work wearing sneakers, baggy jeans and tshirt ( like my colleagues)
Please consider wearing a proper set of clothes on the commute, then change into the tawdry rags expected of you when you arrive and again when you leave. That way, you can maintain some self-respect while 'fitting in'.
@ once, we had a charity event where we dressed up as CEO to raise funds. I won as I was the only person showing up with a suit and dress shoes 😅😅, there are positives
You are spot on! Manliness needs too and will come back. Your style in clothes reveal what is in your head, your thoughts and though your gestures. James Dean in a t-shirt looking cool in the movies back in the 50's / 60's was the epitome of 'cool' but lacked style or class of any kind, and yes, was the beginnings of de-moralization of appearance of a narcissistic nature. My dad rarely ever left the house without being dressed up (as much as possible) and always wore shoes, and a hat. Self-respect is imperative but it is the individual who needs to gauge and view honestly and access themselves. And that starts from the moment a person wakes up to a new day every morning. A moral / ethical responsibility. A serious look in the mirror at the self to be the best you can be. I turned 70 in October and do not wear running shoes at any time anymore! Kudos for speaking up about this serious issue which can only debase society. It is due time to climb the ladder of self respect in our thoughts, feelings and actions with clothes that look good, feel good and express well the greatness of our community.
I know what you mean, Ash! I get treated like a movie star everywhere I go because I wear a suit and tie all the time. It's funny how people seem to appreciate style but are not wanting to practice it themselves. Great video!
Several years ago I started wearing athleisure to fit in with people around me. It helped that I was complemented a lot, and I didn’t mind that the clothes were very comfy and showed my physique nicely. Now that I’m older and further along in my career, I’m going back to dressing a cut above. Being intentional with how you dress is always more respected than just dressing to fit in.
Dressing above the norm has never been this easy and affordable. Quality leather shoes, wool slacks, tweed jackets, with less than a 100€ you can find a whole attire from secondhand shops. No suit or a tie is needed to get compliments, it's really nice and I like it. I'm from a working class family but I'm evolving and I'm teaching my kids what benefits dressing above the norm brings.
@@Draco52-h5rnothing wrong with dead men suits… i own many. They were made to outlive their owner. Read the book Jack London wrote about UK in the early XXth century. An eye opener.
One reason your channel is so valuable is that it's tough to find this information now. Your "uncommon" opinions are rare gems from a generation who many don't have access to. Later generations weren't raised to be men, but to take the easy way. Personally, I've had yearning for chap-nirvana that I couldn't articulate until I found your channel. And, I am profoundly thankful for your service to men and humanity.
Perhaps he should respect the people who work with their hand rather than wanting to look better than them. His jacket exists for more than a century and a half. Younger generations rebelling against uniformity.
I recently attended a job interview for a senior sales / marketing position that pays £ 90K a year. I was wearing a suit and tie and the interviewer a T-shirt.
I have lived many years in Japan but since 20 years I am back in Switzerland with my japanese wife. My father died a few years ago and the funeral was in August, on a very hot day. Of course, my wife was the only one wearing a black dress (with long sleeves), black dress shoes and a pearl necklace. And yes, I was the only one in a black suit etc. There was an array of shorts, hawaiian shirts, flipflops and what not. You can't imagine my wife's shock on that day. She is not uptight at all and usually quite leisurely dressed. But as Japanese she knows one or two things about respect...
My Dear Ash. Welcome to the word of old farts. As a career professional, now retired at age 71, suit and tie was the required uniform. Comfort was a factor of proper fit. Thanks to you, I have now adopted the daily ritual of shaving with a DE razor (Merkur 34c) and writing with a fountain pen (Kaweco DIA2). Your dose of daily wisdom and style is always welcome.
Point well taken on decline in Style. This past Saturday my wife and I attended our local Symphony and White table clothe dinner before the performance. Of the 150 diners (Approx. 60 gentlemen) only two of us were wearing Tuxedos and the rest of the male attendees were dressed in every style from Jeans to Slacks and Ugly Christmas Sweaters. On monday the President of the Symphony Organization sent me a candid photo someone had taken of my wife and I at dinner with the caption, "You look so elegant." That made my effort all more satisfying.
@@alejandrodelgado5829 I can't make out if this is an insult or not. Perhaps you should learn some basic spelling and grammar before you make any further comments.
@@alejandrodelgado5829 That particular passage from the Bible refers to the type of woman a man should marry - that she should not be divorced etc. Utterly irrelevant to this discussion. Matthew, 7:1.
👏👏👏 I like the demarcation between work and leisure. It feels good to dress up for work and then come home, change and relax. It’s nice then to dress up for a social occasion, restaurant etc. The idea of wearing the same clothes around the clock is an anathema to me.
I agree. When you look at old photographs people were dressed formally in all settings and occasions - simply b/c there was nothing like leisure wear back then. Today, we have the choice, which means we have to use our own discretion when to wear what.
I remember when I lived in Naples, Italy many men wore suits, especially in the morning. Even the most menial workers wore a suit to work and changed before labor. This was in the early 70s. Going to work in the morning was a visual treat I miss.
One more thing, Ash. You're neither rambling nor ranting, no need to disclaim a shard of opinion or observation. You've not only presented a persuasive case for a lifetime of experience, you did so in a way that inspired and never deprecated those you criticize. Well done, sir.
@@mikee7755 I must disagree with Oscar de la Renta. In a world where jeans, tee shirts, and sneakers has become the uniform of the day a well-dressed always stands out.
Hi Ash, from Brisbane, Australia - Absolutely and 100% on point Sir. I guess you could say that I myself take great pride in personal grooming and attire. In this modern world of "athleisure" I'm often stunned how little care most men take in their general appearance with baseball caps, printed t-shirts, shorts and sneakers being almost a modern-day uniform for all. Men looking and dressing like their teenage Sons / schoolboys for all manner of occasions are everywhere. But with a little effort, it's incredible how dressing well really does make you feel good about yourself and how good the world reacts to you. Even a nice simple oxford shirt, leather belt, chinos, sports coat with pocket square, and leather boots / shoes makes one a rebel in this all too casual world. Please keep up the good work, and thank you....
"Men looking like their teenage sons". I could not agree more. My belief is no guy over 25 should ever wear a hoodie!...unless you want to look like a 12 year old going to hockey practice.
This is such an amazing channel, very much enjoy you sharing your thoughts, expertise and experiences. I'm one of your followers who did find this channel through your How to Iron a Dress Shirt, had a good laugh when you said that. Growing up in Southern California my "style" was somewhat stunted by the weather and everyone around me wearing t-shirts, shorts and flip-flops year round. Now that I'm getting older I've been looking to you for guidance and help improve myself in the way of a Gentleman's style. Thank you for all your great content! Cheers
I recently walked through the streets of a German town, dressed in a suit, tie, pocket square and hat. Somebody came up to me and remarked:. "Gosh, you have some courage, dressing like that. Are you English by any chance?" I refrained from telling him that in today's England I would stand out in the same way.
I attended a wedding with my wife and was wearing a suit and tie. It seemed that the bride felt I was over dressed for my role as a guest, there was no indication of a dress code or expectation. For other weddings,as a guest my outfit had been entirely appropriate. Neither my wife or I expected that we should wear casual clothes.
I think this reflects on the lack of manners and courtesy of the bride and her insecurities if she considered that you were overdressed in a suit at at wedding.
Well said Ash. I always dress stylish and almost always wear a spot jacket. Even to the grocery store. I always get compliments. I find that dressing well can be just as comfortable as not. I hope that my example will encourage others to up their game. I always say sir and mam. Very best regards Ron
I concur with Ash on this subject. In the U.S. where I live in Southern illinois, a depressed, blue collar area, the decline in proper attire has been noticeable for over thirty years. I also see the decline in morals, respect, courtesy, and manners. Indifference to sartorial style is an epidemic in which I hope disappears soon along with the rude, crude, slovenly, apathetic attitudes not only towards others but in how individuals treat and view themselves. I have started for over ten years improving my wardrobe style and my attitude achieving positive results not only with myself but on how others interact and percieve me on first meeting. But it's starts within one's self. One must seek, desire, and want to improve one's self in order to achieve. I'm encouraged by seeing today's fifteen to twenty-five year olds slowly improve. It almost appears if sorts an eighties and early nineties revival of fashion sense in classic styles of suits, business casual, and casual styles. The work here is tremendous....but not impossible and that gives me the spark of hope. Meanwhile, I will continue to work on myself as well.
@aaronsmith7472 hi, I'm from Herrin currently in Ferges, east of Herrin and north of Marion! It's a small world afterall!!! Slowly but surely, attitudes concerning personal appearance, sartorial choices, and attitudes are ever Slowly changing. Hopefully the economic situation here does too with the recent election. Good luck to you, sir!!!
It really happens here at the beach . Moat guys wear sandals and shorts and tank top or regular shirt so showing up even just wearing nice chinos and a polo and boots is dressing up for here .
One of your best videos, Ash - thanks! Pyjamas? Have never owned any - sleep in my birthday suit. If there's a mosquito in the bedroom my wife throws back my sheets so she won't be bitten...
A fascinating piece on the state of the world, not just dress. I agree on all points, especially the amazement at how some "men" present themselves in public. I have seen my fair share of guys (I call them) in head-to-toe pajamas, essentially adult "onesies" and it never ceases to depress me on some level. As I am turning a corner of sorts in my own wardrobe I am learning a lot from these video entries, thank you for your insights.
21:03 so true in what you say Ash . A couple of years ago my classmate passed away and I was amazed at the lack of respect at his funeral. I was dressed in dark navy suit, black tie and black shoes . The rest of attendees were basically dressed for the beach . I too have seen people wearing pajamas shopping or waking their dogs and think nothing of it . Sad really and shows the decline of respect and decorum
Great video Ash. Your mention of the way we attract the attention of a stranger definitely resonates. I find in London it has switched from “excuse me” to “hello?” I grew up with the notion that “hello” was for when you already had someone’s attention, or for answering the phone. Using “hello” to attract attention is seemingly uncontroversial now but recalls a time when as children we used to sarcastically say “hello?” to imply our interlocutor was stupid. Rant over 😅 Also just bought a new ironing board!
Great video Ash about something I feel very strongly about.As a younger man who cares about my appearance, manners and respect I despair sometimes.I work in a private bank and even here people try to take every shortcut available for instance they wear black trainers instead of shoes, dark jeans instead of dress trousers.People have replaced elegance with comfort and we are worse for it.I will continue to to fight good fight and try to lead by example.We are now the counter culture,long live elegance.
I agree with you and think that is very true in American. I’m retired so I don’t have to dress in a suit and tie everyday. Although I’ve been retired a few years I saw the decay of style when I worked. I love dressing well and was considered a dandy at work and probably still am. I agree with Tom Ford who said, “Dressing well is a form of good manners.”
I am torn. On the one hand, I agree with you. I work as an attorney and notice young attorneys, while still wearing ties in court, don’t know how to care for their shoes, or, even wear so called dress sneakers rather than proper dress shoes. And even when they do wear dress shoes, don’t bother to clean them and polish them. On the other hand, we should realize this is an ongoing process of more casual and comfortable clothes going back some 200 years. The dinner jacket is more casual than the white tie and tails. And tie business suit more casual than the frock coat and stiff collars it replaced. Indeed, I would argue that being well dressed while adapting to a more casual aesthetic takes more thought than in the old days when all a well dressed man needed was 3 or 4 blue or charcoal suits, a couple of white shirts and striped or pin dot ties, 2 pair of dress shoes, and 1 or 2 sports coats. And this is where men fail the test. Casual for some men means jeans or khakis, hoodies with sports team logos, and trainers that really only belong in the gym. The result is a lot of men show up for a date, or a business meeting looking like they are on their way to watch a football game, or maybe just came from the gym. And that is not acceptable. But it doesn’t have to be that way.. even with jeans or khakis, a man can still wear an ironed cotton or linen button down, a merino wool sweater or unstructured sports coat, and loafers, or boots (chukkas, moc toe, or service boots). And still look casual but smart.
It’s just as easy to put on a polo and a pair of chinos as it is a graphic T and cargoes. It’s still casual and comfortable. Plus I don’t look like my 15 year old nephew
Hi Ash, I've been enjoying your videos for a while now and appreciate your considerable work in the growing online menswear community. This is the first time I have felt compelled to comment on one of your excellent videos. I am a 50 year old man, and believe it or not, the youngest person on the charitable committee upon which I serve. The other members are 2 gentlemen, one in his early 60s and one in his late 70s, and several ladies variously in their 50s 70s 80s and even beyond. Our business relates to fundraising and promotion under the auspices of a foundation of a Dame, for young aspiring classical musicians. I live in NZ. I tell you all this to set the scene, an apparently traditional one, you may assume. Not so! A Christmas evening concert was arranged at a very prestigious venue and in discussing the invitations prior to sending them, I shocked my fellow committee members by suggesting that we offer our guests, of all things, a Dress Code. The silence was deafening. I continued, saying it needn't be a black tie event ( frankly it probably should be!) but perhaps our guests who will all be the same age or older than me, might appreciate a dress code, and might even Enjoy the chance to dress up a bit. Others were less convinced with one senior member saying ' I don't think there would be any point. People just wear what they want to now don't they? '. This time it was me who was stunned into silence. So there we have it. It's possible I may be both the youngest man and the only man wearing a suit and tie at this Christmas concert in the evening with canapés and wine... How have we arrived at this attitude: when even those who would have once felt some excitement, some joy in dressing well, wish to default to an inhibitive culture? Cheers Ash, Chris
Dear Ash, thanks for your thoughts and reflections on this matter, as always well prepared and in style 👍. You’ve absolutely summarised my personal view so well and I can fully agree with you that looking well dressed gave me always an advantage when receiving a service in different situations both locally and abroad. PS. I’ve stated to iron my shirts at the age of 16, (totally out of free will 🙂) and that is some 55 years ago. Please continue with your interesting content……. Best regards from 🇸🇪
This takes me back to a seemingly uneventful encounter last year and gives it more gravitas. I just barely started reintroducing wearing suits and ties into my management job. But I had one of my workers that was applying for a job in another department (he was open about it and despite not wanting to lose him I was cheering him on). He had the job in the bag, but he still wanted to show up putting his best foot forward. Of course given my experiences, I haven’t come to expect many men to tie their own ties (I myself had to teach myself as my father was never one for suits). But my coworker asked me of all people to help him learn. At the time I was flattered and happy to oblige, but didn’t think much other than being happy to help. But now hearing about how style is on the declining, it just makes me think that even if that may be the case, when people care, we’ll be there to maintain and pass the wisdom (he got the job by the way). Thank you for helping remind me of this. Love your work and your wisdom!
Dear Ash, as a long-time subscriber to your channel I would like to thank you for your excellent content and share some opinions on this interesting topic. I live with my family in rural France and as someone fortunate enough to have a relatively senior job or 'cadre' on the side of the Channel, I can definitely say that standards of dress for middle class professionals here have not declined as much as I see in the UK. The same comments apply for casual wear for middle class families - there is still an effort to look elegant and presentable, particularly when going to an eaterie, the cinema, the theatre or a social event. Those people who typically wear athletic wear have rarely seen the inside of a gym are easily identifiable - such are the fairly rigid class distinctions. There are exceptions though - we are fortunate enough to have a cleaning lady and she always arrives immaculately dressed. On the rare occasions that I venture to the UK I see a massive difference along the lines of the main thrust of your video. As a frequent traveller to the US, I feel that this trend has crossed the Atlantic to dear old England (along with expensive and calorie-laden coffees,) - ergo, the epidemic of comfort, of informality, of laziness - the eating a meal with just a fork. Since when did the flip-flop become an acceptable item of footwear outside of the immediate vicinity of a swimming pool? The way people dress to take a flight these days is astonishingly poor. Similarly standards of service have never been lower in England. A few months ago a colleague and I (she also lives in France) stayed at a 4-star hotel near Cambridge on a business trip. When we approached the bar for some service the barman greeted me with an 'Awright, mate?' This lazy casualness would never occur here in France - there is always a 'Bonsoir, monsieur' at a minimum. Formal 'Monsieur' et 'Madame' prefixes are used when referring to clients, colleagues and friends. As you conclude - it has never been easier to be classed as a snappy dresser just by taking basic care of your presentation. I am rarely seen without a smart blazer and shirt, decent trousers and formal shoes. In the summer linen suits or jackets are the norm, matched to decent suede loafers. However I hold out little hope of the general standards of customer service improving in the UK - young people have potentially never been exposed to decent formal service, so why would then know any better? I'm in my early 50's and am probably hitting the early stages of old fartdom, but it does make a difference in your standing with others and their perception of your place in the world. Keep up the great work!
Good to hear that standards still persist in France - but the changes are coming everywhere and no amount of resistance will prevent slobdom from infecting the society in due course. But we battle onwards!
Concur with everything said. I will wear a smart shirt and bow tie for church; sometimes a smart casual outfit when I'm out. I'm guilty of athleisure on an average Saturday but like to wear Orvis, so I still look a cut above. That said, I wish we all dressed better on a daily basis if for no other reason, than for self-respect and out of respect for others. It is, however, very difficult for a heavy person to dress well because XXXL outfitters don't have the same level of style or available selections for Big & Tall so it's easier give up. I've recently lost 120 lbs in the last year. Now that I'm back to a more normal size, I'm able to dress in a wider variety of upscale gentlemanly clothes at fair prices. Cheers.
I’m in my early sixties and until a couple years ago, I generally dressed very casually (jeans, t-shirt… I can say I’ve never been out in public wearing pyjamas). I made a career change when I was 56 to a job that allowed very casual dress in the office. I was happy. My boss is considerably younger than I, and he dresses even more casually. We occasionally meet with clients at their workplace and my boss would show up to the meeting in jeans and a graphic t-shirt. I have become much more interested in dressing well these days-as I have told people, I decided that now in my sixties I should finally start looking like an adult-and I feel very good about it. I obviously influenced my boss because he has started going to client meetings in polo shirts rather than t-shirts. I don’t go overboard; I’ve never worn a tie to these meetings, which are still quite casual, but just a little better than I used to wear.
Once again you excel in analysing the dastardly current trends Ash. It always bothered me somewhat to see such slovenly people in public. Since subscribing to your channel a couple of years ago I have had to ask myself what is happening to warrant such a graceless world. My best shot is that a lot of people seem to have given up on society. This begs the question of so many other aspects such as rudeness, hermit like withdrawal from interaction and ultimately low self worth at the basic level. The letter you read out is shocking insofar as it seems to be from Italy, the very home of style. My battle against all this is to continue dressing smartly where, as you pointed out Ash, I sometimes get complemented in the shop or railway station by complete strangers. For all those who maintain a sense of style I say Good for You and Bravo.
This was an excellent presentation. More opinions analyzing both the social and psychological state of tailored mens clothing today would be fascinating to hear about.
As a man late in my 40's who dresses western, I've even noticed a major decline in the way people dress. I cringed when an acquaintance posted a picture of herself and her husband at a red carpet event wearing jeans and sneakers. It is odd how people don't see that taking care of themselves, exercising, eating healthy, dressing up. All helps with their mental well-being As always I appreciated the video, thank you!!
Completely agree with you. We have come to a sartorial crisis point where things cannot get significantly worse.Some of us will push back against the uncouth dress of our peers but I fear that our numbers are not that great and the demise of style will continue.However,the good news is that we are not obligated to follow the crowd ,we can still plough our own furrow and continue dressing well.😊 Addendum.I heard about people going to the store in pyjamas but I have never seen it.Incredible!
I cannot tell you how much needed this video was. I too have been shocked by the triumph of casual dress for ALL occasions. Actually, the term casual for the most part is a synonym for "sloppy". I returned to a Sunday morning church service at my church recently after an absence of about three years. I was shocked and saddened at the way the men were dressing. (I am talking not just young men, but men who were 40 and above also.) Most were dressed like they were on the way to a Wal-Mart or a ballgame and had just taken a notion to drop by the church for a little while. Absolutely disgusting. I was about the only man wearing a suit and tie, and it was so disappointing to see men who in the past had dressed similarly for church now wearing jeans, sport shirts, tennis shoes (or trainers), etc.
I probably haven’t heard the phrase “Dress to impress” in thirty years. Thank you for this video, and for your question, Alberto. I’ve often tried to understand why my younger professional colleagues find it necessary to present themselves as “slobs” in the workplace
It's all about elegance and elegant living! Thank you! No doubt some assume you wear a suit because you're one of those power suit "business men", but it's the flair, the style, the manner of carrying oneself, that makes that distinction. To be elegant is to conform to the natural rhythms of nature, like the Tao---not as some fattened human calf seeking comfort! Thank you for addressing this somewhat "taboo" topic.
A couple of years ago a friend was becoming a minister at his church. He invited me to the ceremony even though I am not a church goer. He, myself and a gentleman in his 70’s were the only men wearing a suit. A number of years ago I read about a company that reinstated a more formal dress code. The number of sexual harassment complaints went down. How you dress will affect not only how you feel but also how you are treated and how you treat others.
Brilliant monologue Ash. It certainly is a depressing situation we find ourselves in and the world is a more drab place for it. I tend to dress smarter than most others around me, but I've honestly dialled it down a notch or two in recent years, just to fit in. I make an effort more when abroad, even smart casual on holiday, I often get comments such as "oh I thought you were maybe French" I take that as a compliment of sorts, but it's also unfortunately a sad reflection of the modern British man and how we are now perceived internationally.
Excellent points as always Ash. I truly hope you're right about a sartorial bounce back. I'm never sure whether to laugh or cry when I see people out and about in their sleepwear. Have to say I raised an eyebrow at Prince Williams latest attire. All the best Ash.
Another aspect might be the „rise of the brands“ which substituted the well cut but no name-clothes. >90% of modern society won’t be able to tell wether your suit is from Saville Row or Amazon. The Ralph Lauren Polo Player on the other hand is a widely known status symbol, others might be the Tommy Hilfiger Flag or the Armani Eagle, which are known to everyone. So the fault for this decline in style might not only fall back to society but also corporations marketing their products differently than 50 years ago.
Greetings Mr. Ash, I am the Shire Reeve of my County in the States. Although I wear a uniform ,i find when I am out in civilian attire to wear a sports jacket and dockers (Chinos). I have a tie and pocket square If the event seems to turn up a notch. It is important to me to make sure I do not dress up more than the person that is being recognized at events. I truly enjoy your videos and wanted to thank you . JJF
This is a very interesting video! I have subscribed haha I believe that how you dress shows respect, and I often wear a suit or business formal attire to work (except on Fridays). Recently, I had a conversation with someone who loves fashion, and we discussed how the concept of "dressing up" has evolved for many people today. For example, some people express respect and "dressing up" through high-end designer hoodies that cost £300 or more. They’re showcasing their best attire, which isn’t typical everyday clothing (Maybe they would wear cheaper clothes?). While I would argue that respect isn’t tied to cost-after all, we could endlessly debate whether my £60 M&S suit jacket shows more respect than a £300 hoodie-it’s an interesting perspective. Ultimately, we shouldn’t penalize people for showing respect in different ways!
I travel quite a bit and the apparel of men in airline lounges is comical. All of them with Apple Watches, the white-bottomed sneaker dress shoe things, and just looking like they all got dressed in the dark. And they all look alike. No distinct identity. No pride in appearance. No signal that they cared enough to be deliberate. So I agree that the sharp dressed man, as ZZ Top put it, is the new rebel.
Great stuff, Ash. As always. A couple of notes: I had occasion recently to travel back from a formal event in London, and while waiting at a railway station in SW England, as a gentleman passed me, a garment fell out of his bag onto the ground. I picked it up and said, quite loudly, "Excuse me, sir!". Which he didn't hear. Fortunately a young lady near to me saw what had happened, and added her own clarion call. Which he heard, and responded to. He walked back, and retrieved the object. Lesson: If you fly a fighter plane the warning voice that tells you to pull up, or about to go into an overspeed condition is almost universally female. Is there a lesson here? Maybe. But chaps respond to a female voice better than they do to any other. Takeaway? Whatever you want. The way other people dress is irrelevant. The best form of leadership is leadership by example. If you want the men going to your favourite restaurant or club or social event to dress better, then the best thing you can do is to dress the part. I've seen it happen in my own social circle. Dress better on your own, and surely, certainly, the word will get around. And it will. Nobody's wife or girlfriend wants to be seen with a chap who looks like a slob. Trust me on that score.
Interesting observation about getting the attention of the sales people. I was in a chaotic queue for taxis at Amsterdam airport once - everyone else was in anoraks or hoodies, I was in suit and tie. Guess who got a taxi first. No twist in the tale - it was me!
Great video Ash. I agree entirely. Just a thought to add to this ...we live in a world which has a lot of mistrust of politicians generally. Most of the worlds figureheads wear suits in public office. Perhaps this is a contributing factor to the decline of the suit? Perhaps people don't want to be associated with a political image/style in their daily life?
I am the last one who would wear a dress or a tie and I never iron anything. I of course know how to iron a shirt. BUT: I respect your style and I really appreciate the fact that you have such. I like diversity. ⚙️🕐🍸
I have recently retired but had a reputation of being a snappy dresser at work. I can't claim that I wore a suit, dress shirt and tie every day but even when dressed relatively casually - polo shirt, chinos - I still managed to stand out and attracted comment (normally positive) in what was overall a pretty casual environment. The interesting thing is that for the last 4 years, I was working in a diplomatic position in an embassy, representing my country overseas. Of course, colleagues dressed up at formal events but even in an embassy environment, the day-to-day dress standard was very much on the casual side.
I can recall a time men wore a suit to the movies or restaurant. A young man was advised to take a tie in his pocket or glove box just incase he was refused entry to a bar or restaurant. Signs indixated "collar and tie required ". " No jeans allowed " "Reasonable standard of dress required" . " no sneakers or thongs" . "No singlets "
Good points made as usual 👍 In my office most go to work in a t shirt, jeans & trainers & i often do too. There can still be a big difference in this clothing even though on the surface it all looks very casual. My t shirt is well fitted with a very small or no logo displayed on the front. i lift weights often & it does show. My jeans are well fitted also & my trainers are new & always clean. Compare that to an ill fitted t shirt with a giant logo on the front of it. Pair it with a belly & a set of man boobs just under the surface. Throw in a pair of baggy jeans & battered trainers. The same clothing can be a world apart 🤣
As a young teen, I was hoping for a world that resembled the film GATTACA (Sartorial wise) when I reached my mid 40s, its more like Ali-G everywhere I look (Sartorial wise). All I can do is keep a stiff upper lip and carry on.
Hello! Thank you for so eloquently sharing your thoughts with us. Have you considered alternatives to your opinions? For example "People are now choosing comfort over appearance" 1. 90% of the time I am wearing tailored clothing, even when exercising. Well fitting clothes are comfortable. 2. I come from a Romanian village, that in 2009 had yet to be fully industrialized. People still dressed in suits... Most hardly ever iron their clothes or take any more care of their appearance than people in American cities. Have you considered that the suit used to be the jeans and t shirt of the old world, and that it wasn't seen as particularly elegant? That it was simply the clothes People had?
When passing by the leasing office in my condo building and noticing the employees wearing business casual attire as opposed to casual athletic wear that’s typical in many offices now, I asked my wife why she thinks that isn’t the standard for all office workers. She replied “you can either have people that just look like they are working or people that are actually working” 😂
I definitely think that declining self respect, manners, and effort is directly related to the fast food society where instant gratification reigns supreme. The fact that so many assume that dressing well equates to discomfort shows the declining lack of basic understanding of a great many things including sartorial wear.
I agree, instant gratification is a significant influence. Lack of respect is another.
I would say that the demand for instant gratification is one of the factors. There are others. When one sees movies with stars dressed “badly”, it becomes copied by many. So, perhaps, the decline in standards can be attributed to the herd mentality?
@@davidbiagini9048 Especially self-respect.
Absolutely
As a millennial woman in the Netherlands who values dressing appropriately for the occasion, I often stand out for looking 'fancy' (which really I do not!).
My partner used to dress in frumpy athleisure wear while he actually wished he'd look more put together, but it seemed like too much of a hassle to him.
I told him that putting on a button-up shirt, nice trousers and leather shoes can be done in the exact same amount of time and budget as dressing in a hoodie, jeans and sneakers.
This realisation was a turning point for him to start dressing in a more classy casual style. He feels much happier about his appearance now and even receives compliments on his great sense of style regularly.
I attended a funeral last year in a black suit white shirt black tie black gloves and hat and polished black shoes i was asked by a family member of the deceased what I was dressed up for and I told him the reason.
Respect
Wow, to even be asked that question is shocking. I still believe a black suit for men is the absolute best option for a funeral in the Western world.
@@fdw1234I'd say only option. I can't really think of an appropriate second option.
That is sad
My reaction to your story was deflation. It’s a complete degradation of society.
My colleague died a few years ago, and at her funeral a guy was wearing blue jeans and a red shirt. He was someone I knew and hadn’t seen for a while, so he came up to me to say hi, and I was so angry at his disrespectful appearance I snubbed him.
When my best friend died 2 years ago, I bought a tailored black suit for the occasion. It’s about respect.
Last night I was at the French Ambassadors quarters. A ceremony in honour of my father,. He was awarded The Order of Arts and Letters. Of course he showed up, dressed up for the occation, black suit, a tie and a pocket square. And the shining medal underlined his elegant attire. He is 98.
Clearly a gentleman.
Wow, he is in good company- and I see Gospodinov was awarded the same! How was the ceremony?
Many congratulations to your distinguished father - bravo to that nonagenarian gentlemen!
Definitely a decline in our society. Recently decided to start wearing a suit and tie every day whether I had a place to go or not. It is amazing how people treat you differently. They look at you as someone of authority to be respected. The only problem is, I’m rebuilding my wardrobe, and I can’t even find a decent pair of wool trousers to go with a sportcoat. Everything is made out of polyester today. Unless you want to spend 600.00. Still trying to fight the good fight in Chicago.
I recently attended the funeral of a local farmer who was a hundred years of age when he died. About 250 men attended, without exception all wore a dark suit , white shirt, black tie and black shoes.
I suppose it depends where one lives but I expected nothing less.
Thank you for boldly speaking your opinion and preserving the flame of truth.
We, as a civilization, need to hear it.
Now, more than ever.
I wear a tie and jacket to work all the time now. I am always the most formally dressed person in the office on most days. When I go to the store I stand out. Many times I get compliments. I kind of enjoy being different than everyone else, and I do enjoy nice clothing. I also have a big problem with the cheap fast fashion crap being sold these days. Hopefully young people will realize that quality is more important than quantity.
Same here.
@@1114gabby Amen to that. Fast fashion tends to suck and it is so bad for the environment.
@@abulafia9834 Here too.
Ditto. Well done, by the way.
Same brother
In my work place
I have had to underdress to fit in.
I work in finance, at an office and I use to wear suit shirt tie and dress polished shoes.
Now, I wear Oxford shirt with open neck and chinos with loafers.
I still look overdressed, but my personality kicks in and I cannot even imagine showing up at work wearing sneakers, baggy jeans and tshirt ( like my colleagues)
I wear a Polo shirt and Cargo trousers for work. It's the nature of my line of work.
Please consider wearing a proper set of clothes on the commute, then change into the tawdry rags expected of you when you arrive and again when you leave. That way, you can maintain some self-respect while 'fitting in'.
I feel your pain. I've been called the "Best Dressed" man in the office, and i dress in what would be considered "Business casual"
@ once, we had a charity event where we dressed up as CEO to raise funds. I won as I was the only person showing up with a suit and dress shoes 😅😅, there are positives
You are spot on! Manliness needs too and will come back. Your style in clothes reveal what is in your head, your thoughts and though your gestures. James Dean in a t-shirt looking cool in the movies back in the 50's / 60's was the epitome of 'cool' but lacked style or class of any kind, and yes, was the beginnings of de-moralization of appearance of a narcissistic nature. My dad rarely ever left the house without being dressed up (as much as possible) and always wore shoes, and a hat. Self-respect is imperative but it is the individual who needs to gauge and view honestly and access themselves. And that starts from the moment a person wakes up to a new day every morning. A moral / ethical responsibility. A serious look in the mirror at the self to be the best you can be. I turned 70 in October and do not wear running shoes at any time anymore! Kudos for speaking up about this serious issue which can only debase society. It is due time to climb the ladder of self respect in our thoughts, feelings and actions with clothes that look good, feel good and express well the greatness of our community.
I know what you mean, Ash! I get treated like a movie star everywhere I go because I wear a suit and tie all the time. It's funny how people seem to appreciate style but are not wanting to practice it themselves. Great video!
Several years ago I started wearing athleisure to fit in with people around me. It helped that I was complemented a lot, and I didn’t mind that the clothes were very comfy and showed my physique nicely. Now that I’m older and further along in my career, I’m going back to dressing a cut above. Being intentional with how you dress is always more respected than just dressing to fit in.
Dressing above the norm has never been this easy and affordable.
Quality leather shoes, wool slacks, tweed jackets, with less than a 100€ you can find a whole attire from secondhand shops.
No suit or a tie is needed to get compliments, it's really nice and I like it.
I'm from a working class family but I'm evolving and I'm teaching my kids what benefits dressing above the norm brings.
My underwear and socks are the most expensive garments I own, because those are the ones I buy new.
I never buy second hand. I refuse to get the 'aura' of the previous owner.
@@Draco52-h5rnothing wrong with dead men suits… i own many. They were made to outlive their owner. Read the book Jack London wrote about UK in the early XXth century. An eye opener.
@@pascalnorvins2187 My eyes are wide open....
@@Draco52-h5rthe fact that you have to put "aura" in quotes proves it's not a real thing.
One reason your channel is so valuable is that it's tough to find this information now. Your "uncommon" opinions are rare gems from a generation who many don't have access to.
Later generations weren't raised to be men, but to take the easy way.
Personally, I've had yearning for chap-nirvana that I couldn't articulate until I found your channel. And, I am profoundly thankful for your service to men and humanity.
The word “Respect” in your presentation speaks volumes. Wonderful video sir!
Perhaps he should respect the people who work with their hand
rather than wanting to look better than them.
His jacket exists for more than a century and a half.
Younger generations rebelling against uniformity.
@@clivesmith9377Rebelling against unifiormity by dressing in T-Shirts, hoodies, baggy, ripped jeans, and sneakers: The nonconformists' uniform 😅
Glad you liked it!
I recently attended a job interview for a senior sales / marketing position that pays £ 90K a year. I was wearing a suit and tie and the interviewer a T-shirt.
I have lived many years in Japan but since 20 years I am back in Switzerland with my japanese wife. My father died a few years ago and the funeral was in August, on a very hot day.
Of course, my wife was the only one wearing a black dress (with long sleeves), black dress shoes and a pearl necklace. And yes, I was the only one in a black suit etc.
There was an array of shorts, hawaiian shirts, flipflops and what not.
You can't imagine my wife's shock on that day. She is not uptight at all and usually quite leisurely dressed. But as Japanese she knows one or two things about respect...
My Dear Ash. Welcome to the word of old farts. As a career professional, now retired at age 71, suit and tie was the required uniform. Comfort was a factor of proper fit. Thanks to you, I have now adopted the daily ritual of shaving with a DE razor (Merkur 34c) and writing with a fountain pen (Kaweco DIA2). Your dose of daily wisdom and style is always welcome.
Great choices sir. We have a lot in common - old farts together!
Agreed! From a 63 yr old DE, Edwin Jagger man. fountain pen user and Bedale wearer.
@ saving my pennies for a fine waxed canvas jacket.
Point well taken on decline in Style. This past Saturday my wife and I attended our local Symphony and White table clothe dinner before the performance. Of the 150 diners (Approx. 60 gentlemen) only two of us were wearing Tuxedos and the rest of the male attendees were dressed in every style from Jeans to Slacks and Ugly Christmas Sweaters. On monday the President of the Symphony Organization sent me a candid photo someone had taken of my wife and I at dinner with the caption, "You look so elegant." That made my effort all more satisfying.
Elegant ? Whit a used up woman ! 😂😂😂
@@alejandrodelgado5829 I can't make out if this is an insult or not. Perhaps you should learn some basic spelling and grammar before you make any further comments.
@willardsheen981 english is not my language, leviticus 21:13-14
@@alejandrodelgado5829 That particular passage from the Bible refers to the type of woman a man should marry - that she should not be divorced etc. Utterly irrelevant to this discussion. Matthew, 7:1.
@@willardsheen981 but is ok to judge other people (style) ?
👏👏👏 I like the demarcation between work and leisure. It feels good to dress up for work and then come home, change and relax. It’s nice then to dress up for a social occasion, restaurant etc. The idea of wearing the same clothes around the clock is an anathema to me.
I agree. When you look at old photographs people were dressed formally in all settings and occasions - simply b/c there was nothing like leisure wear back then. Today, we have the choice, which means we have to use our own discretion when to wear what.
I remember when I lived in Naples, Italy many men wore suits, especially in the morning. Even the most menial workers wore a suit to work and changed before labor. This was in the early 70s. Going to work in the morning was a visual treat I miss.
One more thing, Ash. You're neither rambling nor ranting, no need to disclaim a shard of opinion or observation. You've not only presented a persuasive case for a lifetime of experience, you did so in a way that inspired and never deprecated those you criticize. Well done, sir.
"The well-dressed man never stands out in a crowd; his elegance sets him apart." - Oscar de la Renta
So true.
@@mikee7755 I must disagree with Oscar de la Renta. In a world where jeans, tee shirts, and sneakers has become the uniform of the day a well-dressed always stands out.
Hi Ash, from Brisbane, Australia - Absolutely and 100% on point Sir. I guess you could say that I myself take great pride in personal grooming and attire. In this modern world of "athleisure" I'm often stunned how little care most men take in their general appearance with baseball caps, printed t-shirts, shorts and sneakers being almost a modern-day uniform for all. Men looking and dressing like their teenage Sons / schoolboys for all manner of occasions are everywhere. But with a little effort, it's incredible how dressing well really does make you feel good about yourself and how good the world reacts to you. Even a nice simple oxford shirt, leather belt, chinos, sports coat with pocket square, and leather boots / shoes makes one a rebel in this all too casual world.
Please keep up the good work, and thank you....
"Men looking like their teenage sons". I could not agree more. My belief is no guy over 25 should ever wear a hoodie!...unless you want to look like a 12 year old going to hockey practice.
This is such an amazing channel, very much enjoy you sharing your thoughts, expertise and experiences. I'm one of your followers who did find this channel through your How to Iron a Dress Shirt, had a good laugh when you said that. Growing up in Southern California my "style" was somewhat stunted by the weather and everyone around me wearing t-shirts, shorts and flip-flops year round. Now that I'm getting older I've been looking to you for guidance and help improve myself in the way of a Gentleman's style. Thank you for all your great content! Cheers
I recently walked through the streets of a German town, dressed in a suit, tie, pocket square and hat. Somebody came up to me and remarked:. "Gosh, you have some courage, dressing like that. Are you English by any chance?"
I refrained from telling him that in today's England I would stand out in the same way.
Why did you refrain?
Same happened to me. "Are you English?" Now the English are slobs.
@@folksurvival I did not want to spoil his good image of England. 😊
I attended a wedding with my wife and was wearing a suit and tie.
It seemed that the bride felt I was over dressed for my role as a guest, there was no indication of a dress code or expectation. For other weddings,as a guest my outfit had been entirely appropriate. Neither my wife or I expected that we should wear casual clothes.
I hope you corrected the bride on her error and overreach.
I think this reflects on the lack of manners and courtesy of the bride and her insecurities if she considered that you were overdressed in a suit at at wedding.
Well said Ash. I always dress stylish and almost always wear a spot jacket. Even to the grocery store. I always get compliments. I find that dressing well can be just as comfortable as not. I hope that my example will encourage others to up their game. I always say sir and mam. Very best regards Ron
Growing up in the Seventies, I was always found it odd that Percy Thrower would present Gardener's World whilst wearing a jacket and tie.
I concur with Ash on this subject. In the U.S. where I live in Southern illinois, a depressed, blue collar area, the decline in proper attire has been noticeable for over thirty years. I also see the decline in morals, respect, courtesy, and manners. Indifference to sartorial style is an epidemic in which I hope disappears soon along with the rude, crude, slovenly, apathetic attitudes not only towards others but in how individuals treat and view themselves. I have started for over ten years improving my wardrobe style and my attitude achieving positive results not only with myself but on how others interact and percieve me on first meeting. But it's starts within one's self. One must seek, desire, and want to improve one's self in order to achieve. I'm encouraged by seeing today's fifteen to twenty-five year olds slowly improve. It almost appears if sorts an eighties and early nineties revival of fashion sense in classic styles of suits, business casual, and casual styles. The work here is tremendous....but not impossible and that gives me the spark of hope. Meanwhile, I will continue to work on myself as well.
Well written, and oh so true - From Australia and sent with "Brotherly Love" 👍 Keep the faith.
Keep fighting the good fight, brother. Hold the line.
Lol... I'm from Carbondale. I live in Tennessee now. Keep it up, I get grief for it as well. But also compliment here and there.
@aaronsmith7472 hi, I'm from Herrin currently in Ferges, east of Herrin and north of Marion! It's a small world afterall!!! Slowly but surely, attitudes concerning personal appearance, sartorial choices, and attitudes are ever Slowly changing. Hopefully the economic situation here does too with the recent election. Good luck to you, sir!!!
@blakenorman5377 I lived in Herrin for a few years...yes small world
Thanks!
Thank you sir - much appreciated
I love classic, timeless, and elegant menswears clothes!
It really happens here at the beach . Moat guys wear sandals and shorts and tank top or regular shirt so showing up even just wearing nice chinos and a polo and boots is dressing up for here .
One of your best videos, Ash - thanks!
Pyjamas? Have never owned any - sleep in my birthday suit.
If there's a mosquito in the bedroom my wife throws back my sheets so she won't be bitten...
A fascinating piece on the state of the world, not just dress. I agree on all points, especially the amazement at how some "men" present themselves in public. I have seen my fair share of guys (I call them) in head-to-toe pajamas, essentially adult "onesies" and it never ceases to depress me on some level. As I am turning a corner of sorts in my own wardrobe I am learning a lot from these video entries, thank you for your insights.
Excellent video Ash, well said
Absolutely agree. Cheers from the South Carolina Lowcountry (USA)
21:03 so true in what you say Ash . A couple of years ago my classmate passed away and I was amazed at the lack of respect at his funeral. I was dressed in dark navy suit, black tie and black shoes . The rest of attendees were basically dressed for the beach . I too have seen people wearing pajamas shopping or waking their dogs and think nothing of it . Sad really and shows the decline of respect and decorum
Great video Ash. Your mention of the way we attract the attention of a stranger definitely resonates.
I find in London it has switched from “excuse me” to “hello?” I grew up with the notion that “hello” was for when you already had someone’s attention, or for answering the phone. Using “hello” to attract attention is seemingly uncontroversial now but recalls a time when as children we used to sarcastically say “hello?” to imply our interlocutor was stupid. Rant over 😅
Also just bought a new ironing board!
Good ironing sir.
Long and rambling, but always entertaining! Splendid.
Excellent video Ash, thank you. Yes, the well-dressed man is now the rebel! No problem for me, I was always a rebel anyway...😂.
Excellent
Thanks for your insightful remarks on the decline of style
Excellent video Sir, looking sharp
Great video Ash about something I feel very strongly about.As a younger man who cares about my appearance, manners and respect I despair sometimes.I work in a private bank and even here people try to take every shortcut available for instance they wear black trainers instead of shoes, dark jeans instead of dress trousers.People have replaced elegance with comfort and we are worse for it.I will continue to to fight good fight and try to lead by example.We are now the counter culture,long live elegance.
I agree with you and think that is very true in American. I’m retired so I don’t have to dress in a suit and tie everyday. Although I’ve been retired a few years I saw the decay of style when I worked. I love dressing well and was considered a dandy at work and probably still am. I agree with Tom Ford who said, “Dressing well is a form of good manners.”
...but selling $400 sunglasses is "bad manners". 😉
I am torn.
On the one hand, I agree with you. I work as an attorney and notice young attorneys, while still wearing ties in court, don’t know how to care for their shoes, or, even wear so called dress sneakers rather than proper dress shoes. And even when they do wear dress shoes, don’t bother to clean them and polish them.
On the other hand, we should realize this is an ongoing process of more casual and comfortable clothes going back some 200 years. The dinner jacket is more casual than the white tie and tails. And tie business suit more casual than the frock coat and stiff collars it replaced.
Indeed, I would argue that being well dressed while adapting to a more casual aesthetic takes more thought than in the old days when all a well dressed man needed was 3 or 4 blue or charcoal suits, a couple of white shirts and striped or pin dot ties, 2 pair of dress shoes, and 1 or 2 sports coats.
And this is where men fail the test. Casual for some men means jeans or khakis, hoodies with sports team logos, and trainers that really only belong in the gym. The result is a lot of men show up for a date, or a business meeting looking like they are on their way to watch a football game, or maybe just came from the gym. And that is not acceptable.
But it doesn’t have to be that way.. even with jeans or khakis, a man can still wear an ironed cotton or linen button down, a merino wool sweater or unstructured sports coat, and loafers, or boots (chukkas, moc toe, or service boots). And still look casual but smart.
It’s just as easy to put on a polo and a pair of chinos as it is a graphic T and cargoes. It’s still casual and comfortable. Plus I don’t look like my 15 year old nephew
Hi Ash, I've been enjoying your videos for a while now and appreciate your considerable work in the growing online menswear community. This is the first time I have felt compelled to comment on one of your excellent videos.
I am a 50 year old man, and believe it or not, the youngest person on the charitable committee upon which I serve. The other members are 2 gentlemen, one in his early 60s and one in his late 70s, and several ladies variously in their 50s 70s 80s and even beyond. Our business relates to fundraising and promotion under the auspices of a foundation of a Dame, for young aspiring classical musicians. I live in NZ.
I tell you all this to set the scene, an apparently traditional one, you may assume. Not so!
A Christmas evening concert was arranged at a very prestigious venue and in discussing the invitations prior to sending them, I shocked my fellow committee members by suggesting that we offer our guests, of all things, a Dress Code. The silence was deafening. I continued, saying it needn't be a black tie event ( frankly it probably should be!) but perhaps our guests who will all be the same age or older than me, might appreciate a dress code, and might even Enjoy the chance to dress up a bit. Others were less convinced with one senior member saying ' I don't think there would be any point. People just wear what they want to now don't they? '. This time it was me who was stunned into silence.
So there we have it. It's possible I may be both the youngest man and the only man wearing a suit and tie at this Christmas concert in the evening with canapés and wine...
How have we arrived at this attitude: when even those who would have once felt some excitement, some joy in dressing well, wish to default to an inhibitive culture? Cheers Ash, Chris
You are doing your part sir - keep the faith and be the shining light!
Dear Ash, thanks for your thoughts and reflections on this matter, as always well prepared and in style 👍. You’ve absolutely summarised my personal view so well and I can fully agree with you that looking well dressed gave me always an advantage when receiving a service in different situations both locally and abroad.
PS. I’ve stated to iron my shirts at the age of 16, (totally out of free will 🙂) and that is some 55 years ago. Please continue with your interesting content……. Best regards from 🇸🇪
This takes me back to a seemingly uneventful encounter last year and gives it more gravitas.
I just barely started reintroducing wearing suits and ties into my management job. But I had one of my workers that was applying for a job in another department (he was open about it and despite not wanting to lose him I was cheering him on).
He had the job in the bag, but he still wanted to show up putting his best foot forward. Of course given my experiences, I haven’t come to expect many men to tie their own ties (I myself had to teach myself as my father was never one for suits). But my coworker asked me of all people to help him learn. At the time I was flattered and happy to oblige, but didn’t think much other than being happy to help.
But now hearing about how style is on the declining, it just makes me think that even if that may be the case, when people care, we’ll be there to maintain and pass the wisdom (he got the job by the way). Thank you for helping remind me of this.
Love your work and your wisdom!
Dear Ash, as a long-time subscriber to your channel I would like to thank you for your excellent content and share some opinions on this interesting topic.
I live with my family in rural France and as someone fortunate enough to have a relatively senior job or 'cadre' on the side of the Channel, I can definitely say that standards of dress for middle class professionals here have not declined as much as I see in the UK.
The same comments apply for casual wear for middle class families - there is still an effort to look elegant and presentable, particularly when going to an eaterie, the cinema, the theatre or a social event. Those people who typically wear athletic wear have rarely seen the inside of a gym are easily identifiable - such are the fairly rigid class distinctions. There are exceptions though - we are fortunate enough to have a cleaning lady and she always arrives immaculately dressed.
On the rare occasions that I venture to the UK I see a massive difference along the lines of the main thrust of your video. As a frequent traveller to the US, I feel that this trend has crossed the Atlantic to dear old England (along with expensive and calorie-laden coffees,) - ergo, the epidemic of comfort, of informality, of laziness - the eating a meal with just a fork. Since when did the flip-flop become an acceptable item of footwear outside of the immediate vicinity of a swimming pool? The way people dress to take a flight these days is astonishingly poor.
Similarly standards of service have never been lower in England. A few months ago a colleague and I (she also lives in France) stayed at a 4-star hotel near Cambridge on a business trip. When we approached the bar for some service the barman greeted me with an 'Awright, mate?' This lazy casualness would never occur here in France - there is always a 'Bonsoir, monsieur' at a minimum. Formal 'Monsieur' et 'Madame' prefixes are used when referring to clients, colleagues and friends.
As you conclude - it has never been easier to be classed as a snappy dresser just by taking basic care of your presentation. I am rarely seen without a smart blazer and shirt, decent trousers and formal shoes. In the summer linen suits or jackets are the norm, matched to decent suede loafers.
However I hold out little hope of the general standards of customer service improving in the UK - young people have potentially never been exposed to decent formal service, so why would then know any better?
I'm in my early 50's and am probably hitting the early stages of old fartdom, but it does make a difference in your standing with others and their perception of your place in the world.
Keep up the great work!
Good to hear that standards still persist in France - but the changes are coming everywhere and no amount of resistance will prevent slobdom from infecting the society in due course. But we battle onwards!
Concur with everything said. I will wear a smart shirt and bow tie for church; sometimes a smart casual outfit when I'm out. I'm guilty of athleisure on an average Saturday but like to wear Orvis, so I still look a cut above. That said, I wish we all dressed better on a daily basis if for no other reason, than for self-respect and out of respect for others. It is, however, very difficult for a heavy person to dress well because XXXL outfitters don't have the same level of style or available selections for Big & Tall so it's easier give up. I've recently lost 120 lbs in the last year. Now that I'm back to a more normal size, I'm able to dress in a wider variety of upscale gentlemanly clothes at fair prices. Cheers.
I was wandering through Trowbridge today in my suit. I seemed to be the only one. I got a lot of prolonged stares and smiles at times.
I’m in my early sixties and until a couple years ago, I generally dressed very casually (jeans, t-shirt… I can say I’ve never been out in public wearing pyjamas). I made a career change when I was 56 to a job that allowed very casual dress in the office. I was happy. My boss is considerably younger than I, and he dresses even more casually. We occasionally meet with clients at their workplace and my boss would show up to the meeting in jeans and a graphic t-shirt.
I have become much more interested in dressing well these days-as I have told people, I decided that now in my sixties I should finally start looking like an adult-and I feel very good about it. I obviously influenced my boss because he has started going to client meetings in polo shirts rather than t-shirts. I don’t go overboard; I’ve never worn a tie to these meetings, which are still quite casual, but just a little better than I used to wear.
Once again you excel in analysing the dastardly current trends Ash. It always bothered me somewhat to see such slovenly people in public. Since subscribing to your channel a couple of years ago I have had to ask myself what is happening to warrant such a graceless world. My best shot is that a lot of people seem to have given up on society. This begs the question of so many other aspects such as rudeness, hermit like withdrawal from interaction and ultimately low self worth at the basic level.
The letter you read out is shocking insofar as it seems to be from Italy, the very home of style.
My battle against all this is to continue dressing smartly where, as you pointed out Ash, I sometimes get complemented in the shop or railway station by complete strangers.
For all those who maintain a sense of style I say Good for You and Bravo.
Indded sir, we must lead the way and set the tone - it is up to others to follow, but we have done our bit!
This was an excellent presentation. More opinions analyzing both the social and psychological state of tailored mens clothing today would be fascinating to hear about.
Ash....I wager if you produced another video about how to fold and pack a shirt....that would receive a massive number of views also
Another amazing video thank you
As a man late in my 40's who dresses western, I've even noticed a major decline in the way people dress.
I cringed when an acquaintance posted a picture of herself and her husband at a red carpet event wearing jeans and sneakers.
It is odd how people don't see that taking care of themselves, exercising, eating healthy, dressing up. All helps with their mental well-being
As always I appreciated the video, thank you!!
Completely agree with you.
We have come to a sartorial crisis point where things cannot get significantly worse.Some of us will push back against the uncouth dress of our peers but I fear that our numbers are not that great and the demise of style will continue.However,the good news is that we are not obligated to follow the crowd ,we can still plough our own furrow and continue dressing well.😊
Addendum.I heard about people going to the store in pyjamas but I have never seen it.Incredible!
I cannot tell you how much needed this video was. I too have been shocked by the triumph of casual dress for ALL occasions. Actually, the term casual for the most part is a synonym for "sloppy". I returned to a Sunday morning church service at my church recently after an absence of about three years. I was shocked and saddened at the way the men were dressing. (I am talking not just young men, but men who were 40 and above also.) Most were dressed like they were on the way to a Wal-Mart or a ballgame and had just taken a notion to drop by the church for a little while. Absolutely disgusting. I was about the only man wearing a suit and tie, and it was so disappointing to see men who in the past had dressed similarly for church now wearing jeans, sport shirts, tennis shoes (or trainers), etc.
I dress well sartorially because I choose to show up for life
That should be quotation of the day. Superb!
Get up, dress up, show up!
I probably haven’t heard the phrase “Dress to impress” in thirty years. Thank you for this video, and for your question, Alberto. I’ve often tried to understand why my younger professional colleagues find it necessary to present themselves as “slobs” in the workplace
It's all about elegance and elegant living! Thank you! No doubt some assume you wear a suit because you're one of those power suit "business men", but it's the flair, the style, the manner of carrying oneself, that makes that distinction. To be elegant is to conform to the natural rhythms of nature, like the Tao---not as some fattened human calf seeking comfort! Thank you for addressing this somewhat "taboo" topic.
A couple of years ago a friend was becoming a minister at his church. He invited me to the ceremony even though I am not a church goer. He, myself and a gentleman in his 70’s were the only men wearing a suit. A number of years ago I read about a company that reinstated a more formal dress code. The number of sexual harassment complaints went down. How you dress will affect not only how you feel but also how you are treated and how you treat others.
Brilliant monologue Ash. It certainly is a depressing situation we find ourselves in and the world is a more drab place for it. I tend to dress smarter than most others around me, but I've honestly dialled it down a notch or two in recent years, just to fit in. I make an effort more when abroad, even smart casual on holiday, I often get comments such as "oh I thought you were maybe French" I take that as a compliment of sorts, but it's also unfortunately a sad reflection of the modern British man and how we are now perceived internationally.
Excellent points as always Ash. I truly hope you're right about a sartorial bounce back.
I'm never sure whether to laugh or cry when I see people out and about in their sleepwear.
Have to say I raised an eyebrow at Prince Williams latest attire.
All the best Ash.
Totally agree with your points. It seems people have lost pride in basic controllable appearance. Keep up the great content, always 'dress to impress'
I agree 100% in this whole video. I must say, Ash, that is the nicest tie and jacket combination you’re wearing that I’ve seen so far.
Another aspect might be the „rise of the brands“ which substituted the well cut but no name-clothes.
>90% of modern society won’t be able to tell wether your suit is from Saville Row or Amazon. The Ralph Lauren Polo Player on the other hand is a widely known status symbol, others might be the Tommy Hilfiger Flag or the Armani Eagle, which are known to everyone. So the fault for this decline in style might not only fall back to society but also corporations marketing their products differently than 50 years ago.
Greetings Mr. Ash, I am the Shire Reeve of my County in the States. Although I wear a uniform ,i find when I am out in civilian attire to wear a sports jacket and dockers (Chinos). I have a tie and pocket square If the event seems to turn up a notch. It is important to me to make sure I do not dress up more than the person that is being recognized at events. I truly enjoy your videos and wanted to thank you . JJF
Thanks for sharing
This is a very interesting video! I have subscribed haha I believe that how you dress shows respect, and I often wear a suit or business formal attire to work (except on Fridays). Recently, I had a conversation with someone who loves fashion, and we discussed how the concept of "dressing up" has evolved for many people today.
For example, some people express respect and "dressing up" through high-end designer hoodies that cost £300 or more. They’re showcasing their best attire, which isn’t typical everyday clothing (Maybe they would wear cheaper clothes?). While I would argue that respect isn’t tied to cost-after all, we could endlessly debate whether my £60 M&S suit jacket shows more respect than a £300 hoodie-it’s an interesting perspective. Ultimately, we shouldn’t penalize people for showing respect in different ways!
I travel quite a bit and the apparel of men in airline lounges is comical. All of them with Apple Watches, the white-bottomed sneaker dress shoe things, and just looking like they all got dressed in the dark. And they all look alike. No distinct identity. No pride in appearance. No signal that they cared enough to be deliberate. So I agree that the sharp dressed man, as ZZ Top put it, is the new rebel.
Being taught how to tie a tie by my father, was the same as the shaving. Good points, Ash. Looking sharp as always. 😎
Totally agree with you! 😊
Very true! And excellent content!
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for your very interesting answer, Ash. I fully agree.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I share your ideology Ash.
Another excellent video. I work in sales and amount of clients wearing Suit and tie are only handful. Most of them are wearing comfy clothes.
Great stuff, Ash. As always. A couple of notes:
I had occasion recently to travel back from a formal event in London, and while waiting at a railway station in SW England, as a gentleman passed me, a garment fell out of his bag onto the ground. I picked it up and said, quite loudly, "Excuse me, sir!". Which he didn't hear. Fortunately a young lady near to me saw what had happened, and added her own clarion call. Which he heard, and responded to. He walked back, and retrieved the object. Lesson: If you fly a fighter plane the warning voice that tells you to pull up, or about to go into an overspeed condition is almost universally female. Is there a lesson here? Maybe. But chaps respond to a female voice better than they do to any other. Takeaway? Whatever you want.
The way other people dress is irrelevant. The best form of leadership is leadership by example. If you want the men going to your favourite restaurant or club or social event to dress better, then the best thing you can do is to dress the part. I've seen it happen in my own social circle. Dress better on your own, and surely, certainly, the word will get around. And it will. Nobody's wife or girlfriend wants to be seen with a chap who looks like a slob. Trust me on that score.
This is such a tricky one. As much as I agree, I thank the Lord for the widespread use of Yoga Pants!
Interesting observation about getting the attention of the sales people. I was in a chaotic queue for taxis at Amsterdam airport once - everyone else was in anoraks or hoodies, I was in suit and tie. Guess who got a taxi first. No twist in the tale - it was me!
Very good video! So true…
Thank you
Great video Ash. I agree entirely. Just a thought to add to this ...we live in a world which has a lot of mistrust of politicians generally. Most of the worlds figureheads wear suits in public office. Perhaps this is a contributing factor to the decline of the suit? Perhaps people don't want to be associated with a political image/style in their daily life?
I am the last one who would wear a dress or a tie and I never iron anything. I of course know how to iron a shirt. BUT: I respect your style and I really appreciate the fact that you have such. I like diversity. ⚙️🕐🍸
This is exquisite
Well said
Hello Ash, oncemore i am 100 % your opinion! Greatings ftom Cologne and sorry for my bad schoolenglish! 🤦♂️
I have recently retired but had a reputation of being a snappy dresser at work. I can't claim that I wore a suit, dress shirt and tie every day but even when dressed relatively casually - polo shirt, chinos - I still managed to stand out and attracted comment (normally positive) in what was overall a pretty casual environment. The interesting thing is that for the last 4 years, I was working in a diplomatic position in an embassy, representing my country overseas. Of course, colleagues dressed up at formal events but even in an embassy environment, the day-to-day dress standard was very much on the casual side.
I can recall a time men wore a suit to the movies or restaurant. A young man was advised to take a tie in his pocket or glove box just incase he was refused entry to a bar or restaurant. Signs indixated "collar and tie required ". " No jeans allowed " "Reasonable standard of dress required" . " no sneakers or thongs" . "No singlets "
Great video, I 100% agree, especially when it comes to funerals, Memento Mori …
Good points made as usual 👍
In my office most go to work in a t shirt, jeans & trainers & i often do too. There can still be a big difference in this clothing even though on the surface it all looks very casual. My t shirt is well fitted with a very small or no logo displayed on the front. i lift weights often & it does show. My jeans are well fitted also & my trainers are new & always clean.
Compare that to an ill fitted t shirt with a giant logo on the front of it. Pair it with a belly & a set of man boobs just under the surface. Throw in a pair of baggy jeans & battered trainers. The same clothing can be a world apart 🤣
Dear Sir Ash, I'm agree with you and I find sad that all world is turned of in this kind of wearing. We are the new rebels. Best regards from Italy
As a young teen, I was hoping for a world that resembled the film GATTACA (Sartorial wise) when I reached my mid 40s, its more like Ali-G everywhere I look (Sartorial wise). All I can do is keep a stiff upper lip and carry on.
Hello! Thank you for so eloquently sharing your thoughts with us.
Have you considered alternatives to your opinions? For example
"People are now choosing comfort over appearance"
1. 90% of the time I am wearing tailored clothing, even when exercising. Well fitting clothes are comfortable.
2. I come from a Romanian village, that in 2009 had yet to be fully industrialized. People still dressed in suits...
Most hardly ever iron their clothes or take any more care of their appearance than people in American cities. Have you considered that the suit used to be the jeans and t shirt of the old world, and that it wasn't seen as particularly elegant? That it was simply the clothes People had?
This plays a lot on my mind. Just sent an email about it as it's a bit long for a TH-cam comment.
When passing by the leasing office in my condo building and noticing the employees wearing business casual attire as opposed to casual athletic wear that’s typical in many offices now, I asked my wife why she thinks that isn’t the standard for all office workers. She replied “you can either have people that just look like they are working or people that are actually working” 😂
I share your views, I 💯 agree!
As a final thought, I feel that Western Society is at that "Bread and Circuses" moment ......
I went to a wedding two years ago and a guest showed up in ripped jeans and dirty work boots 🤷🤷.
I couldn't agree more with you, Ash.