BOOK COMMUNITEA: IT'S HARD IN PUBLISHING FOR YT MEN 🙂 [CC]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- 🌺Hey hey. Mr. Patterson had the audacity to say that the yt men are struggling in publishing and media 🙂. So you know I had to yell about it. IN THE COMMENTS, LEAVE ANY BOOKS YOU RECOMMEND THAT ARE WRITTEN BY ANYONE BESIDES WHITE CIS MEN! Thanks for watching!
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Poor white men; they have to actually compete with only major advantage instead of automatic and unquestioned dominion. My thoughts and prayers are with them. ❤️
Sadly for them, they will not always get the job anymore because they're white. It's just most of the time now 😢
Thought and prayers indeed 😒
for the age issue, i feel like he’s trying to co-opt an actual industry issue where (mostly minority) creators (in writing, animation, comics, etc) are hired more frequently because they’re less experienced and easier to exploit for overwork and underpay. that is its own issue and not the same as “young people have it easier getting into the industry” when “young” just means “cheap easy labor” to many of those hiring.
Ooo facts !!
No lie, when the article on James Patterson came up in my news feed, I immediately thought, I wonder what Jess thinks about this. Our girl did not disappoint.
"Drink Water & Don't Be Racist." Thank you! Really that simple.
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That slow laugh was hilarious 😂 Honestly though I wouldn’t be surprised if people like James Patterson looked up the stats and said “75 or 85%? That’s not enough!” 🙄 It reminds me of this study where men and women were talking or even being in the same room. When it was 95% men and 5% women the men thought it was equal. Then, I think it was 40% women and 60% men the men thought women were dominating. “When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.”
YES I was thinking of that same study!!!
Yes!!!! I’ve read about that too. 🫣🫣
That quote, yes ! 👏🏾
Story time. When I worked with B&N James Patterson had his own display. It was not an end cap either. It was a whole bookcase next to the new releases so his books could be faced out. So, yes, his publisher/he paid for that but he would come in to the store on occasion and check it out! So even though his books weren’t for our area’s customer base it always had to be filled in and looking neat because all displays had to look nice but he would come in and admire? It. Now, fun part if you went up to him and asked if he was James Patterson he would always say no. Even if you were a fan.
Also, he was a successful advertising executive before retiring and devoting his time to writing. He has always had the money and time and resources. Like ummmm, no.
Most Chapters and Indigos also have full bookshelves or bookcases dedicated to his works too :/ (Thankfully not always next to the new releases)
@@anne-marie339 yes, true because his publisher pays for that Real estate in the book store. It was just funny that he would come into our store, stand in front of it and scrutinize the display. But he was not James Patterson if you asked.
WOWWW full of himself
I’m not sure how a person can go from “Woody Allen (a person with a long history of scandals and problematic accusations) didn’t get to publish his memoir with one company” to “must be racism”. Of all the possible reasons, racism wouldn’t even be in my top 50.
James Patterson doesn't even write his own books, he has a lot of nerve😒 His books take up 2 whole sections of the Fiction area in the library that I work in. How I wish we could slim it down alot!😖
As someone with white 70+ family members and in-laws I can say there is a very irrational and ridiculous fear of "what will happen to white men" in the future. 🤦🏻♀️ Hopefully for everyone else they will step the F out the way and shut up in the room already.
YES, exactly what Alyssa Cole said. This is ridiculous but it's also frightening because this is the attitude that feeds into so much violence - it's not "just" about publishing (although who gets opportunities to tell stories is also hugely important by itself!)
It’s funny until you think about how many people think this is a thing 😩😩
Jess and Nigel waking up to blaring sirens. "Nigel, it's the White Man Bullshit alarm! Man your stations!" 😆
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HAHAHAHAHA 😆😆😆
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This is why some authors should be seen and not heard and I totally agree with what Alyssa Cole said. My mom said the books he co-writes he doesn't actually write them he just puts his name on it, she says she can tell because she's read a lot of his books before so she can tell the difference.
Here for the James Patterson slander he hasn’t actually written anything in years and seems like an awful person
Lordt Jesus, I can’t with these YTs. Right before you got to the Replacement Theory comment that’s what I was thinking. These folks out here acting like they haven’t benefited from hundreds of years of racism and that they still don’t benefit from systemic racism. I really need these people to STOP. Just STOP
Erica, they’re in danger !! 🫠🫠
Equality always feels like oppression to those who see themselves as the dominant class.
I thought James Patterson was just annoying before and then I saw this article 😩
Dude you have TV commercials for your books I think you don’t have anything to worry about.
Honestly, just be rich and quiet 😭
The lack of awareness is astounding to truly believe white men are “struggling” in publishing.
Some book recommendations:
Kim Jiyoung, born 1982-Cho Nam Joo
Strange Weather in Tokyo-Hiromi Kawakami
If I Had Your Face-Frances Cha
Human Acts-Han Kang
On Earth We’re briefly Gorgeous-Ocean Vuong
Ties That Tether-Jane Oghari
Madonna in a Fur Coat-Sabahattin Ali
Being a middle aged white woman, I agree that white men have never and probably will never be discriminated against in almost any industry, especially in the arts. James needs to shut his mouth and just retire into obscurity. Let the authors who have "co-written" with him go on to do their own books. Some of them had unique voices instead of being clones of him. I hope to see them shine someday on their own.
An author you didn't list that is a really good read is Regine Abel. She writes science fiction romance.
@UCSNjo7QNLWH3CC1mQ8nBulA Ironic? It shouldn't be but I understand why it would be unusual. Jess' video above put the situation into a succinct summary in a way that made sense to me. I appreciate her willingness to talk about these issues and link to others who also discuss these things.
Agree. And what’s weird is that only recently has the publishing industry actually started lifting up other voices, and he clearly feels threatened by this. Very ignorant of him to not understand the hardships minorities have faced to get their stories heard. History is written by the winners, and he should know this.
Truly, plz retire James. Leave us be
And when you said, “I haven’t yelled about a rich white man in a while,” I knew I was in the exact right spot!
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I read the article this morning and straight up rolled my eyes so hard I got a headache. I always love your reactions to stuff like this and the "did you go to therapy?" had me laughing.
Everytime I hear the "freeze peach" argument, I am secretly cheering in the background, because the day these entitle mediocre individuals manage to prove the everyone has the God-given right to a 6 figure book deal with a major publisher, I will be dusting off all the manuscripts I have lying around and going round the big 5 demanding a deal from each, because "freeze peach".
Freeze peach is my new fave way to say this, thank you
Alex Cross is literally just a white guy with a deep spray tan. If it wasn’t for Morgan Freeman’s portrayal, no one would ever believe that man could be Black. Patterson can take a long hike.
Off a very short pier
I read those books when I was like 18/19 and not once did I go oh this is a black man. He read vanilla with a tan like you said.
He admitted that. He invented a detective....that happens to be Black simply because he did not want to be presumptuous and write a Black detective
I wasn’t sure what he was gonna say but I surely didn’t honk it would be THAT. Woooooow. The AUDACITY
The caucasity
Audacity is what white men eat for breakfast, I swear 😤
"However, what you say, what you do doesn't make you exempt from consequences." YES, THANK YOU.
Wonderful video as always.
I was never able to finish a Patterson book, even when I was in my old-White-men reading era. His success has been baffling me for decades.
Thanks for the recommendations at the end!
This month I read The Lesbiana’s Guide to Catholic School and The Hacienda and they are both so good! Highly recommend those two! 🥰☺️🤩🌟
One chapter to go for Elektra and then jumping into The Hacienda. Excited for that one.
I loved the Hacienda!!
I am just baffled!!!! How can someone so blatantly ignore the data and sit there and say it’s hard for white men to be published 🤔 sir you are a millionaire!!!!! This whole thing just makes it obvious that the whole “James Patterson presents” was performative. Okay I’m done bitching, awesome video friend ♥️
"Did you talk to Elon before this interview?" 😆⚡️🙌🏼
The way I saw the James Patterson headline and ran to booktube 😂 Shout out to Jess for always being on top of current events
I try my best 🥰
I hate that "happened to be black." It feels like it's implying that blackness isn't allowed to be a significant, important aspect of a person or character. It feels like something those "I don't see color" people would say, like "I'm gonna write a character where their race is irrelevant and then toss in a throwaway line about them being black to pretend I'm Not RacistTM"
NOOO, not JAMES PATTERSON of all people with the REVERSE RACISM charge!!! One of the biggest, best-selling “authors” (and brand manager) still in the game. LOLOLOL, I was never going to read one of his paint-by-numbers, airport Dad books (which he didn’t even write), but now … definitely a hard no. And Woody Allen discriminated against ….. LOL 🤣🤣🤣
Some recently read recs: I'm Afraid of Men by Vivek Shraya, A Snake Falls to Earth by Darcie Little Badger, The Romantic Agenda by Claire Kann, Lakelore by Anna-Marie McLemore, Skin of the Sea by Natasha Bowen
I laughed so loud and ugly when you said “WHERE ARE THE WHITES?!” 😂
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Amazing as always, Jess! Let’s keep the trash accountable in their garbage bin, shall we? 💖💖
We need to take allll the trash out!
So excited for this! I saw the headline last night and shut my phone off - I did not have time for that tomfoolery!
Recs: Love After the End, edited by Joshua Whitehead - it's a Two-Spirit and Indigiqueer Speculative Fiction Short Story Anthology - highly recommend!
Also just read Chef's Kiss by TJ Alexander - super cute slow burn romance with a bi and nonbinary couple (by a nonbinary author).
Currently reading The Strangers by Katherena Vermette - a really great novel following the women of the Stranger family. It's by a Métis author and I recommend checking the content warnings for those interested.
Roxane Gay bahahahaha. Made me laugh out loud
Me before the video: oh no
Me when you read that headline: OH NO,
I KNOW HE DIDNT JUST SAY THAT
"Did you go to therapy?" LMAO
Before this I knew very little about James Patterson. It should have stayed that way. I have no tears to sqeeze out for rich white men.
We truly know too much about rich people 🙄
Some of these danguses will take something that is both true and obvious, such as the profoundly difficult task for anyone to write and traditionally publish a book, and then they will shoehorn in their own counterfactual and racist political agenda. Happens every time.
Also, I am a fan of free speech, that is why I denounce all publishers who do not immediately give me a book deal.
the speed of you turning this video around 👏🏾 thank you Jess, for your public service work
He said sign him up for all the audacity!!!
When I read about this nonsense, one of my first thoughts was... Oooooh, I can't wait to hear what Ms. Jess has to say about this. Woke up this morning and you did not disappoint. Thank you - and Nigel - for this content. That Ol' crusty needs to hush his mouth.
I made the awful mistake of clicking on his apology on Facebook when searching his Twitter apology on Google. Oh. My. God. That comment thread is a cesspool.
Catching up on videos I missed on vacation last week and this had to be top of my list ❤❤❤
I must say, I have never liked J.P anyway, and from what I heard, he isn't a very nice guy at all and can be a bit of a bully when he wants something done. There has been loads of questions on how he treats his own ''staff'' (shadow writers). Not much came from it, but it is just rumours and anything else. Sometimes he has a habit of taking credit from someone else, steals ideas and gets other people to write it and even has an army of paid buyers at the ready. His sales, his information come from some group he has hired. He has bought his way to the top. The only books of his was good is Maximum ride series, but a couple of latest books of his was bad and still outpreformed somehow and made top lists. And.....there was one recently where he won 'best book award' for something that didn't come out yet. There is a lot going on here.
Okay the way I snorted at "women of colors" XD
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The ENTITLEMENT is so gross.
Kaikeyi - Vaishnavi Patel
Creatures of Passage - Morowa Yejide
Popisho - Leone Ross
The Island of Missing Trees - Elif Shafak
How High We Go in the Dark - Sequoia Nagamatsu
The Verifiers - Jane Pek
Beasts of a Little Land - Juhea Kim
The School for Good Mothers - Jessamine Chan
Black Cake - Charmaine Wilkerson
The Bread the Devil Knead - Lisa Allen-Agostini
Blue Skinned Gods - SJ Sindu
The Violin Conspiracy - Brendan Slocumb
Love in the Big City - Sang Young Park
Honor - Thrity Umrigar
Portrait of a Thief - Grace D. Lo
I remember seeing the headline and just rolling my eyes and skipping it. I have no interest in hearing a best-selling white male author talk about "poor us white man authors".
I was very interested in hearing what you have to say on it though. 😁.
So, you are in your theater kid era? Love it!
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Also,
Patterson: I'm a decent person.
Me: the dude protests too much!
YES this is my theatre time 🎭 ! Trying to build my portfolio 😂
The lack of awareness and honestly self-awareness is astounding. Does he not realize that he's one of the most successful authors? Plus he's white...? I've never read any of his books cause they honestly don't appeal to me but damn he sounds exhausting.
That Gina Denny on Twitter did us all a favor by compiling the list that blows his comments out of the water.
I am not sure what is going on here, it feels like someone told him to say all this for a distraction. I know in my library, I have TWO bookshelves that is entirely dedicated to him, nobody else. Mr 4 books a month thanks for the army of Shadow Writers.....yeah, his books are terrible and sometimes his own publishers pull him up on it. But yeah, I am not sure why he would say that, as there are loads of adult males in that industry. I guess he had a falling out with them or something. But yeah, he is everywhere, I book in Waterstones, they have an ENTIRE SECTION with his name only. He has a HUGE number of works everywhere. So far, he has 400 million books to his name in total spanning 30 years. He holds the world record for most books written and sold. He alone is single handly keeping the industry going, while most of it has shut down.
I hadn't seen the Woody Allen part 🤦🏻♀️ why must white men speak
We’ve suffered long enough, can’t they be quiet 😩
it's the sarcasm for me. ❤ love your channel
Nigel was ready for the tea lol also, ew why is bill o’Reilly still getting publishing contracts?
I wish I knew 😵💫
Hahahaha
You definitely didn't disappoint with this. 😂❤️
P.S. Continue to protect your energy in the meantime though💞. Racism doesn't sleep. 😔😤
Thanks for always keeping us informed. I'm not on Twitter so Thanks👏🏽👏🏽💕💕
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Ooh yeah, I just knew there had to be a CommuniTEA video after reading that nonsense last night.
Okay so I did not know the full context of the story until. I only heard of the headlines on the internet so I only heard that he thought that white men were being discriminated against that's it. And I'm like okay that's his opinion as it pertains from his point of view it's lame but who cares. But knowing the full context that he felt that about a Woody Allen memoir. WOODY ALLEN, for him to think Woody Allen, a guy who has allegedly sexually abused his daughter and who went on to marry his other daughter (and I'm not getting into the debate of whether it's okay to court your adoptive daughter I'm not getting into that debate I'm not going to get it into the semantics of she's not blood related to him so it's okay no it's f***** up. He abused his daughter and he went on to groom and marry his other daughter.) So we not just got the racism, we got rich and just the warping of moral gymnastics here wrapped in the statement of "well Woody Allen's memoir wasn't published so I think that's racist." James Patterson Does not understand the fact that this pedophile this groomer does not need any positive attention he needs to be at the very least wiped out into obscurity at the very least because apparently he's never going to face Justice for his actions, for the abuse he caused his two daughters whether his other daughter that he's currently married to admits to it or not she was groomed by her dad.
"sad puppy 2.0"
I'd like to see your coverage on Trish Lorenz. Great video
ok but i actually loved this intro
3:37 also your laugh literally makes me laugh every time i love it
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You and Bowties & Books are all over this topic. Imma just comment all over ya'll channels...Keep drinking that drink girl
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Just... sigh😐, it never ends. TFS :)
I've only ever read two books by James Patterson (one was mainly just to get inspiration for my own stories) and had to DNF both of them. This is just wild, outrageous and disgusting. The fact that he can say that with how things are going in right now is just...wow.
Some book recs: Blood Heir by Amélie Wen Zhao, The Last Namsara by Kristen Ciccarelli, Iron Widow by Xiran Jay Zhao, With the Fire on High by Elizabeth Acevado, Gilded Ones & Merciless Ones by Namina Forna and Pride by Ibi Zoboi
More books to look for (sorry if I doubled ones from the video, my memory is terrible, but I tried):
What Souls Are Made Of by Tasha Suri
The Speaking Bones by Ken Liu
Beasts of Ruin by Ayana Gray
Godslayers by Zoe Hana Mikuta
A Mirror Mended by Alix E. Harrow
The Dream Runners by Sheet Thakar
The Dragon's Promise by Elizabeth Lim
Babel by RF Kuang
Ballad and Dagger by Daniel Jose Older (OUT NOW)
A Tase of Magic by J Elle
A Venom Dark and Sweet by Judy I Lin
We All Fall Down by Rose Szabo
Mika in Real Life by Emiko Jean
Empress Crowned in Red by Ciannon Smart
Hell Followed With Us by Andrew Joseph White (OUT NOW)
The Fae Keeper by HE Edgmon (OUT NOW)
The Darkening by Sunya Mara
Out of the Blue by Jason June (OUT NOW)
Cafe Con Lychee by Emery Lee (OUT NOW)
Force of Fire by Sayantani DasGupta (OUT NOW)
Out There edited by Saundra Mitchell
A Strange and Stubborn Endurance by Fox Meadows
Most of these are SFF because that's what's usually on my radar 😊
Great video as usual! Took a subject I was too angry to pursue and broke it down with finesse and just the right amount of humor.
I try my best 😎☺️
Okay, I would love a transition that's like Jess & Nigel turn into Captain Comminitea & (someone needs to help me with a good superhero sidekick name for Nigel). You could have matching capes and answer the call of book Twitter getting stupid. 🤣
LMAO OMG 🤣🤣🤣
Feeling glad I didn't buy that James Patterson mystery I was tempted by a few years ago. Phew! That was a close call!
When you were reading the bestsellers list and said John Grisham my brain said "wait that's not the same guy?" 😂
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Never been a James Patterson reader but I am stoked to give the latest with my queen Dolly a listen. That's the only reason I wanted that audiobook lmao
Honestly the moment I saw this I was on the verge of giving up entirely. Like really? Seriously? I don’t think a decade has ever made me as exhausted as this one and we’re only in year two. Whichever god is up there needs to stop acting a fool and giving us this nonsense.
James Patterson is tone deaf and his opinions are incredibly problematic. Alyssa Cole’s tweet is spot on. I don’t typically gravitate towards his books, but now I will actively stay away from his books.
James Patterson is supposedly "unputdownable", but is he??? And is that a word? Is he making up words now?
Love how white men have 9/10ths (at least) of whatever pie you're talking about (publishing, media, literally everything else), but still get angry over anyone else getting that 10th slice. They really be like "if I don't have 100% of it, then I'm oPpReSsEd"
Ah, yes...James Patterson, the guy with a ghost writing empire, his own publishing imprint etc...the same James Patterson whose yearly income averages around 95 million dollars...sure, he and others like him are truly the people who are suffering...lord... -__-
It’s just not fair for James
@@JessOwens I want a slice of the same unfairness James is having. Would buy a house with that...
Okay James. 🙄
I honestly did my best not to drown myself in the damn bath when this popped up on my screen as I was reading my screen. Honestly, I literally so sick of this sort of nonsense. Honestly. How can a white man for whom the industry is literally catered, be oppressed? It is so easy for white writers to get into this industry. The only reason I can think of older white men not breaking through would be because the books they write are shit. Like full-blown, steam-curling-off-the-pile dollop of shit shit. But hey ho, that has not stopped publishers from publishing trash of that sort. As a writer, I am aware of the advantages I would have that most writers of colour don’t have and who actually deserve the opportunities to break into the industry, just as any other writer of worth deserves. It is grossly unfair to writers of colour and insulting to writer who have never had the opportunity to receive the attention they deserve. Fuck James Patterson. Fuck his brand.
Fuck his books. I shall now get myself into the sun. Hope you’re doing well though Jess!! Lots of love from Scotland
Hugs back to you, friend ! And yes fuck him and his brand !!
He uses a team of writers. That’s no secret.
I've never read one of Patterson's books, but I have bought them as gifts for my mom since she enjoys them. I did notice that most of them had a coauthor. I always wondered how much he wrote and how much the coauthor wrote.
But yeah, he is an idiot and a racist. Most of the people published in the West are white men. And a publisher deciding not to publish a book is not someone trying to shut down free speech. Publishers also have free speech rights too.
For recs, Iron Widow and Zachary Ying by Xiran Jay Zhao, the Peasprout Chen series by Henry Lien, the Rick Riordan Presents imprint (I've read the first Aru Shah book by Roshani Chokshi, and the first Tristan Strong book by Kwame Mbalia; both were so good), and Honourbound by Rachel Harrison.
I know that most libraries have workshops for older people about using computers or devices to read ebooks. Maybe someone should do a workshop about publishing indie books so that these poor old white men can start their writing journey without the discrimination they face in the industry. Sarcasm aside, I see Patterson's books in German grocery stores so I have no idea what he's talking about :')
Watching this video immediately!
i actually read an article where he said he doesn't write most of his own books - he just gives the coauthor an outline then slaps his name on at the end
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Also, I read bout two, three of his books and I completely agree with you, Nora Roberts is better.
Actually there are alex cross films two of the starring Morgan Freeman kiss the girls and along came the spider
The other movie had Tyler Perry in the role of alex cross it came out a few years ago
I had about Mr. Patterson before this....so.....maybe the poor rich man is struggling after all (read: lots of sarcasm towards the end of the sentence)
Was waiting for this !! Thank you!!
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Guess this is what happens when Patterson actually writes his own stuff.
Anyone that has to say they are a decent person and loveable are clearly neither of those things. I can't believe James thought it was a good idea to do an interview complaining how hard it is for him and other yt men in the arts today. So ridiculous!! Glad I don't ever care to read or buy anything he writes.
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09:17 , I thought you were going to say he was on this years top 100 list of celebrities who put their foot in their mouth. 😆😆😆
We need that list!
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Now that list is gonna be long
James Patterson’s net worth is $800 million
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In to hype the one and only SHIRLENE OBUOBI releasing her first book ON ROTATION!!!!!! it's on Jess' list here, put it on all of yours GET HYPED IT'S GONNA BE GREAT
Ok bumping it up my list
I have watched this 3 times and telling folks about it.
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Why not assume that the Allen memoir was dropped because that man is creepy ?!! I mean I don’t want to read it.
At least Nigel is super cute … plus side
Bwahaha heeeeeeyyyy frieeeeeend, loved this intro. 😉☺️
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Bullshit Nora Roberts has to be the highest paid author. What do i have to do to fix this injustice!!
Oh James... the audacity.
Imagine going to bat and lamenting the supposed downfall of white male authors over a PDFile. Can't be me, but you do you, Jimbo.
Pleaseeeee tell me what the HELL he was talking about with this one 😒😒
He don’t even know