Muay Thai vs Kickboxing KNEE Style
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ค. 2020
- Learn the difference in styles between the #MuayThai knee and the #Kickboxing knee, and why I recommend adapting both into your stand-up striking!
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There are atleast 9 kinds of straight knee style in muaythai.
1.เข่าตรง ตีนำ(khao-trong-tee-num)=(lead straight knee)
2.เข่าตรง ตีตาม(khao-trong-tee-tam)=(follow straight knee)
3.เข่าตรง(khao-trong)=(straight right knee)
4.เข่าเฉียง(khao-cheang)=(oblique knee)
5.เข่าโค้ง(khao-kong)=(curve knee)
6.เข่าตัด(khao-tud)=(cross knee)
7.เข่าลอย(khao-loi)=(flying knee)
8.เข่าโหน(khao-hone)=(hung knee)
9.เข่ากระโดดเหยียบ(khao-kra-dod-yeab)=(stomping knee)
I think the kickboxing knee in muaythai they called "khao-trong" which is mean straight right knee.
And the second style knee in the video in muaythai they called "khao-tud" which is mean cross knee.
Thanks Shane.
You forgot *Tiger knee* hahaha
@@Aomura98 haha good one
Very good, you forgot the คุณหัวเข่าตาย (mega knee), peace
Thanks guys. Lol
Rabbit and Bomb knee is not here
Muay Thai was the father of kickboxing, so therefore the Dutch style knee is just a variation of muay thai knee, the stabbing knee of the Dutch style also exists in Muay Thai.
Actually karate, taekwondo etc. were "the fathers" of kickboxing
@@euroschlucker traditional Karate styles like shotokan etc are still traditional karate styles, whereas kyokushin karate and other full contact styles evolved into Japanese style kickboxing and then american long pants kickboxing-benny the Jet etc, often not allowing low kicks and also requiring a certain number of kicks per round. Muay Thai pre-dates these styles by around 300 years! And as for TKD? All the kicks are from karate! And all karate styles originate from Okinawa! Okinawan Karate is basesd on chinese kung Fu! If you follow this long enough you'll disappear up your own ASS! there's no perfect technique! Don't fear the man who knows a thousand different kicks, fear the man who has practiced one kick, a thousand times.
@@timahad2071 wtf?!
Tim Ahad relax dude damn. It’s not that serious. Karate is the father of modern Kickoxing in the west. No one outside of southeast asia even had an idea of what Thaiboxing was until the 60’s.
@@timahad2071 i thought TKD was made in Korea
Bob looking like Artem the GOAT with that staggering reach you gave him.
I feel like muay thai generaly focuses more on one solid strike at a time and not more than 2 strike combos, and kickboxing tends to be more combo oriented.
Nah, we do a lot of combos with at least 5 solid strikes
muay thai kinda has a traditional swagger to it
Disagree, we practice 5 to 6 hit combos regularly
@@Wall_enjoyer traditional muay thai has the guys set up one good kick or a gard punch, lerdsila or buakaw, actual legends use that style but outside thailand you got strikers like wec aldo,barbosa who set up for a huge kick with not to many punches,but the flurrys and combos are more common in kickboxing and in the west, (like condit,felder,hooker)
@trool hp i just listed a bunch of succesfull muay thai fighters who don't use many combos but rather set up one huge kick,and it's muay thai.
Love seeing Shane happy while teaching truly a passionate striking trainer. Makes me realise why I picked Kickboxing because I am as passionate as him and look up to him
I don't understand why people act like Muay Thai has just 1 knee or 1 elbow. There's so much variety in Muay Thai.
yet Muay thai has shown to be the most dominant stand up combat art out of all of those flashy fancy styles out there 👍
@@ozzi1113 how about taek won do
@@akshaykali7037 Teakwondo by it self its very usless in combat sports What is very interesting is that there now mma fighters using this style and mixing it up with other styles for example look at Yair Rodriguez from ufc ....
@@ozzi1113 well i dont know much about it but i know that it has some dangerous kicks, and i as a former martial artist and now kickboxer dont feel very confident against those
@@akshaykali7037 Flashy kicks are usually the end of those who attempt them in a real fight. Distance management is almost impossible when you're turning your entire body and executing a flashy kick on a moving opponent. Add to that the fact that its usually not hidden and is just one strike which means its easily catchable and countered, it also lacks the speed of going through your guard because you see the entire movement before it hits you, so you simply either back away or defend yourself. If executed properly and hidden well, they can be very dangerous, but that is usually not the case because the martial arts who teach those kinds of kicks do not have mandatory sparring in their classes or any sparring in general which turns the students into acrobats not fighters. They can look good but cannot fight at all. You can rarely see fighters executing taekwondo kicks properly in a fight, and when you see them, they always have a background in Muay thai or kickboxing as well, which is where they learn how to fight, then later teach themselves how to implement their taekwondo kicks in their fight game.
Happy birthday Shane. Been watching you since the 6th grade and now I’m already done with high school
Happy birthday hahah
I love kickboxing vs Muay Thai videos
Keep up the good work Shane
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Love your work! 💪🏾
Ahaha, that's funny. Just watched your vid and now stumbling across you in this vid's comment section!
My man! Please tell me you're not gonna use this to beat up Darci
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was so long waiting for this explanation, thank you soooo much!!!
Best tutorial on knee strikes, I have seen on youtube. Thank you for that!
This explains the conflicting cues given from two coaches at my gym. Thanks, Shane.
They arguing or what? Did they squash the beef?
Watch your videos all day. I've learned so much. I remember when you started. Thank you!
Great stuff. Thank you, Shane. Always interested in analysis of distinctions in punches, kicks, stance, etc between Muay Thai and Dutch Kickboxing.
Happy birthday coach!!! Thanks shane for the awesome tips that made me a 60% better fighter(today is july 3rd in my country)
Appreciate you very much, buddy!
fightTIPS shane bro got so much fkn respect for ya, you truly are a great coach.
Happy birthday from pakistan
The way you explain things is just so easy to understand. Now all I need to do is take it all in!
Fascinating instruction Shane, thank you!
Happy birthday coach, your videos have helped me out for 4 years
Thanks Shane, I've seen these differences, but they have never been explained this well.
thank you for helping my Knee Grow..
Thanks for advice! Helped technique a lot!
Happy birthday coach shane thx for all vids helping in my training :)
6:08, Your voice is like Saenchai dude😂
Really cool comparison, would love to see that with other techniques as well
I really enjoy your videos, Fazen. I wish I could learn from you in person.
Nice breakdown, Thanks.
very nice video, thanks for uploading!
Your tips makes me a better fighter thanks alot
Good video! Always thankful the excellent practical tips in your videos! Bob XL has a "jacket" with arms for future arm grabbing
Very good observation on that in the dutch-style we work a lot with body and hips rotation. I noticed it recently (after 10 months of training :D) and remembering that really helps me with combinations: left, right, left, right... I guess it might make the fighter a bit more predictable?... But for me, an amateur, more focused on learning for self-defense, I feel it makes my punches and kicks much better.
Great lesson coach.
Saludos desde Lima-Peru y gracias por tu trabajo.
Thanks 🙏🏽 once again I worked with you while watching
I’d Love to see you talk about the different knees and elbows. I feel like I’m a lot of videos they’re over looked and never talked about as much as kicks and punches.
Love this. Background in kickboxing but want to learn more Muay Thai
Great video. I love the dutch flow and how they utilise them in fast combinations. However the Thai knee is so deadly when they drive it through your soul 😂
Both style are within Muay Thai Knee style ! Muay Thai Knee are various such Strait Knee, Diagonal Knee, Cutting Knee, Scratch Knee, Curve Knee, Throw Knee,Swing Knee, Head Lock Knee, Body Lock Knee, Fly Knee, Hit Down Knee.
🤣🤣🤣What a handshake between these two in the end there! Just like Carl Weathers and Arnold Schwarzenegger!😂😂😂
Woow I am EARLY. Keep up the good work Shane from a long time fan
Thanks man!
Best Muay Thai And Kickboxing Knee strikes tutorial
THE BEST IF THE BEST!!!😊🌄😇💖💯
Great fight tip. Knees i like to use as an anti approach move if someone gets too close.
Thanks Shane
Very good information. Thanks a lot 👍👍👌😀
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Great video man! I love the knee cross combo in kickboxing it always covers the knee effectively. Also the different applications of the knee are very interesting.. looking forward to being able to practice these soon :)
Hi Shane, could you do a video on how you film your videos and how to film training footage good. I think it’d help people trying to build their social media by having better bag/training footage.
Thanks Shane! Question: how do you like the bob? Is it as good as a heavy bag? I know they each have their pros and cons, but is it a waste to put one in my garage for muay thai if i can't hang a heavy bag?
fightTIPS I like the Muay Thai knee. To me it feels more fluid. I’m not knocking the Dutch style, but I just feel more comfortable throwing a Thai style knee
I learned the dutch style in myanmar from lone chaw. But i am dutch guess what i learned in holland.... Thats right the muay thai knee
Which one do you feel more comfortable with? Or is it situational?
@@jasonw293 it depends on range and strikes. When i did a combo round strikes the round knee is better. But after long straight strikes the straight knee feels better. My myanmar teacher lone chaw was very good in straight hard punches with long knee. My dutch teacher joop gottmers is beter in round striking a bit like ramon dekkers style. So its a style issue. They both are good teachers by the way that manage other strikes as well. I mix up the knees a bit of both.
Mark poepiloeri alright. I don’t do any sparring or fighting right now, but I agree with that. Range and strikes do determine follow up strikes
@@jasonw293 did you injured yourself or is it the lockdown?
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Nice explanation.
great video!
Hey Shane. What is your weight class when and if you go to the competition?
Could we see some videos of your archery practice? It was interesting to hear the analogy in the your punches still suck video. Plus it is still technically a martial art
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also i think u dropped this👑
You the man for this comment, Sean 😄🙏
Happy birthday coach. Love the vid
Thank you, Jon!
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Lol when that arm fell off!
Thanks a lot for these videos. I really appreciate your teaching style. Patreon?
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🤣🤣🤣Now Coach Vance applied on his dummy, Bob! Oh boy and he says that he’s evolving as he walked into the gym this morning!😂😂😂
Thanks shane
Thank you!
Is it compulsory to sound like that when throwing muai thai attacks?
I like those kickboxing muay thai comparisons
Good to know with all these attacks lately
Tips for kyokushin style combos?
Happy birthday! Today's my dad's birthday too
Please do a video on breathing when you kick to maximize power.
The muay thai knee is what Anderson silva used against rich franklin
Can u do a video on elbows
iv done a bit of muay thai and we always did both types of knee, i prefer straight down the middle
Can you say the best gym exercises to develop explosiveness and form in fight
I have a question about form, I’m right handed but left footed so should i be using southpaw stance thingy or orthodox ?? think they’re the right terms 😅)
Hey! Shane how can i recovery from boxer sagittal band injury in my right hand help me please reply me
Day what on quarantine now? Shane's getting even more communicative with bob now.....
Hey Shane, I have recently started sparring for fun more so just boxing and I was wondering if you could analyse my movement? Could I send you my sparring videos?
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Do you think the grab the hand technique would also work for a kick?
Bob is really good!!!
Beautiful
I’ve been taught to use the inside of the knee because it may minimise injury to the patella/surrounding ligaments or joints, am I being taught wrong?
It's not that you're being taught wrong. It's just a different take on the technique. I most commonly hear it referred to as the "slap knee". That's a very useful way to minimize injury if you're working with a heavy bag or a harder target. It is also better in sparring because you won't injure your partner. But if you're in a real fight you should most definitely drive the knee directly into the target. You deal more damage with bone than with muscle. And a human body wouldn't be hard enough to truly damage your knee unless you bang knees with the opponent.
Darius Grady Yeah sounds about right. I mostly just do pad sessions and was told to use the inside of the knee in like a swinging to the outside and into the side of the body but wasn’t told if it was the correct technique in a real fight. Thanks for the feedback 👍
You also see that style of knee in Muay Thai but it's usually in a clinch and strikes the sides. It's more for taking the wind out of an opponent (which gets amplified with how exhausting clinching for a while gets) than raw damage and has a shorter range than a more linear knee. Since Shane was talking about long knees we're in the domain of linear knees.
use upper part of shin bone on muay thai knee
This anecdotal experience but I find that pulling your foot as far back as possible tightens the knee which makes it hurt less and hit harder.
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I mean..Muay thay have at least 6 type of knee strike (Throng, chiang, khong and a lot more).
Kick boxing just steal them, and it's k, that's how martial arts works
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I have a question do you have sand or water in that Bob ? And is it filled all the way?
good tips
Love it
Brother plzz make a video on Zabit magomedsharipov & Yair rodriguez tactics 🙏🙏🙏🙏
The moment I saw bob made my day
This came up just as I’ve been trying to work on my Muay Thai knee technique, thank you 🙏
Nice!
Bob is great he should have his own youtube channel!
Hi, Which one you préconise to me? Muay Thai or kick boxing? Thank you
fighttips what martial arts does american kickboxing have besides boxing and karate
Understood the techniques pretty well. Just a request, Lyoto machida sensei throws a counter knee. It happens in a split second. Can you please break it down?
Good posture👍🏻 with bending backward
honestly a big fan of a hybrid style. trapping the hands but then instead of pulling them down into the knee, i pull my arms back to really torque into the knee. that’s the style that i find to be best against all sized opponents as well as most capable of offensive or defensive
that being said, the twist of the hips to turn my leg out is dependent on their reactions. if they shell then i go straight but if they try to back out then i turn out so need be i can still hit with a round kick. it’s abt just touching them, gotta make them doubt themselves.
Hi, this is a great explanation. I still have a question though. The Muay Thai knee has that extra knee "inside twist" produced by turning the knee slightly inside, which looks like lifting the angle. I haven´t found a specific explanation on what that does yet. Can somebody please explain?
My guess is that it could make it more difficult for the opponent to grab the knee, but it is a long shot. Other than that I don´t see it adds something extra biomechanically to generate power, at least not more than the hip thrust, or hip turn, but if you turn it too much it becomes a different tech. If there is a muay thai coach there to explain that to me I would be very thankful.
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Which one is the best option: completely train kickboxing and then add the bases of Muay Thai, or on the contrary?
Tbh i just started boxing and i already love it but i have a few bad habits i tend to stop after i get a clean hit you know anyway to cure my bad habit?
Can I build muscle with your mma 7day workout please reply very important 👏👏
adding bang's at the end of your knee like a true Thai