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As an argentinian, the reason this war still is a „touchy subject“ is because the argentines who fought there were all teenagers who were forced to do so by the dictatorship. Most Argentines I know actually really like Brits and the UK in general, it‘s only that this war brings out really bad memories from the time. In my opinion, I don’t care at all who owns the islands, because my country’s problems aren‘t about land area, but about corruption instead.
Cheers! :)
Yea thats understandable . this war was unnecessary and everyone that died during it is a sad fact - and im happy to hear that the argentinians know its their corrupt governments fault since the island has always been british and will always be british - i still feel like we should have continued up the argentinian mainland because they openly attacked the UK and forced our young men (and women) to go to war - so argentinia had to be punished somehow but the reasonable side of me knows that would be overkill
It's always the case: young men fight in old men's wars.
@@kingofrivia1248 well technically it wasnt "always british", it was an island that was claimed by britain because of imperialistic europe. but whats done is done and i agree that there is no point starting wars over what is settled.
@@kingofrivia1248 I'd say the war was necessary. As the people of that island were British citizens. If we hadn't fought for those people that would imply that the UK is a nation that turns it's back on its own people. So I'd say it was absolutely necessary. Not pleasant or nice, but necessary 👍
@@KissMyFatAxe The islanders weren't considered British citizens back then, they only becamo so after the fact. There were even ongoing negotiations about a joint Anglo-Argentine administration of the islands. You must remember that up until this war, Argentina and the UK had been historic allies.
Im from argentina, the malvinas war is still a delicate subject in the country, it is the only war we fought since 1900 and it was during a dictatorship where everyone who would think different from the government would dissapear forever. What made this war so tough for our society was that the soldiers used where young people who were obliged to go without even proper equipment just to be butchered by the britain forces
I'm sure the British forces would have preferred to fight only older professional soldiers loyal to Galtieri, but one fights those posing as the enemy regardless of their loyalties, skills, and equipment. War has historically been instigated by the old and fought by the young to the detriment of all sides.
Dictators always sacrifice the young who have no stake in the dictatorship. It thins out the resistance. Argentinians are often much better than the government they end up with. Good people with a strong love for life. Las Malvinas conflict was something that didn’t need to happen and I am saddened at the loss of so many young men who would have preferred a different life and a different choice in their leadership. I will always remember fondly my visits to Mendoza and the beautiful seasons of Tucuman.
Listen to the English military themselves talking about how the Argentines fought, it was a war where many people died, I think it is a not very serious reaction, th-cam.com/video/kvkI5pJ_aQk/w-d-xo.html Would they have the courage to react to the truth? P. D most of the Argentine dead were young people who did not exceed 20 years, they fulfilled the Mandatory Military Service! They wanted to be doctors, teachers, football players, musicians, carpenters .... NOT MILITARY! and they fought with the same blood that we have for everything we do, how can you see us play in a football stadium leaving until our last breath, for which we are recognized worldwide. Respect please!
@@eduardomastroscello9136 salty that they didn’t weep for aggressors in a war against them lol. They should have rebelled against the dictator rather then follow him blindly like Hitler and Stalin
@@shawnanderson6313 that’s exactly what I’m saying lol are you brain dead
I believe all the inhabitants of the Falklands are Brits or descendants of Brits so its not surprising that they would overwhelmingly opt to remain British subjects as opposed to Argentinians.
Which is exactly what I say when people say this war wasn't necessary. Those Falklanders are and have always been British citizens. We didn't have to fight for the islands, we had to fight for the people 👍
Looking at it the wrong way. In a world ruled by rationale, they should keep the UK citizenship and let the argents keep the island. Who cares.
@@christopher1474 if they didn’t retaliate then it would look like anyone can walk over Britain and get away with it.
@Saitama Eagle if your reputation is “ yes you can do whatever you want to us with no consequences” then yes because a reputation like that can lead to more loss of life
@@christopher1474looking at it the wrong way. Acrually you’re right, let Hawaii become independant but let them keep American citizen ship
I can't believe you blokes haven't done OverSimplified's "Cold War" two-parter yet.
The General Belgrano that the British sunk was previously owned by the US before being sold to Argentina when the US modernised their Navy in 1951. It was the USS Phoenix before being sold and was station and survived the Pearl Harbor attack of 1941.
Fun fact
The French never retreat.....they just advance in the opposite direction. Lol
lmao
england, the first french colony
Say that to a Legionarie. ;-D
Never been this early before, cheers from the states!
Yeah it's like crazy bruh
Too partial and superficial ...
Same here
In the news business (where I spent 40+ years), reporters always strive for a solid 'lead' sentence to begin their reports. An NBC reporter delivered a classic lead after the controversial sinking of the Belgrano when he opened with: "For centuries, Britania has ruled the waves. Today, Britania waived the rules."
There’s a really great documentary on the Falklands War from a channel called Timeline. It has some pretty tough interviews with sailors from the HMS Sheffield. There’s also some really funny interviews with US State Department personnel who were really really confused as to why the brits and Argentines were fighting over some tiny islands.
Please do the US Civil War soon!
I am always suspicious if a high level official is "confused". The legal geographical landmass the islands allow is well over the size of Great Britain and oil and natural gas would be immediately available. It was essential for England to keep it.
@@wilsonedwards8189 not confused really, just... befuddled by both the argentine decision to invade and the intense British response. There was one moment which really stuck out where a guy cracked a joke and laughed, before the professional front of seriousness took back over
They just announced they finally cleared the last of the mines a couple months ago, after nearly 40 years of clearing them.
Man, I'm feeling old. I was at sea (USS Enterprise) with the US Navy. You can bet that we knew where we might be headed if things escalated.
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Nice try mate but everybody knows the enterprise is really a starship.
@@jimmy2k4o lol!
This was awesome! As a Canadian, we aren't taught a thing about the Falkland War, I've only ever heard of it through a podcast based in the UK. Loved the vid and you're guy's extra input about what you guys experienced during that time!
"....so, instead of heading straight off to the pub, perhaps stop and have a read...." hilarious
My late uncle was on a ship that was sunk in the north Atlantic during WWII. He was then sent to the Pacific where his new ship was sunk. The US navy then sent him to the great lakes. Fortunately the Canadians didn't torpedo THAT ship...
Mike:
~/o "I was sixteen, going on seventeen...."
I was waiting for someone to start singing.
😂
My dads mate who lives in timperly was at goose green in 82 with 2 para, got injured badly after stepping on a landmine. Doesn't talk about it much like as you can imagine. Love the channel guys watching from my flat in Northern moor! Keep the videos coming👍
I'm from Buenos Aires and the sentiment towards Britain is all good. There's actually a huge amount of British cultural influence in Argentina (you see it in different provinces and maybe even in some surnames). Not to mention The Rolling Stones, Zeppelin, and other stuff (football). 👍
The war happened due to the military dictatorship which was ruthless and sent thousands of 18 year-olds to the islands to fight against elite British forces.
I remember a New York tabloid headline when the Brits sank the Argentine ship outside of the declared exclusion zone. “Britain Waives the Rules!”
As someone originally from Wythenshawe can I just say how great it is to hear you guys talk.
You guys ROCK!!! Your reactions are addictive. Awesome chemistry.
My Father was a Senior Officer in Her Majesty's Royal Marine Commandos from 1940 till 1981, before that in 1938 he had joined up and become an Anti Aircraft gun loader, he was lucky and escaped from Dunkirk. Before he knew it he was sent to Scotland and joined what was then just called Commandos. He retired in 1981 after Serving at NATO H.Q. in Brussels, Belgium.
Two weeks after he retired he co-signed my paperwork for me to follow in the family tradition by joining Her Majesty's Royal Marine Commandos on my 17th birthday. Making me the youngest of his son's to join the RMC, and my older sister who had joined Royal Military Medical Corp as a Trauma and General Surgeon who operated on me three times in my career.
After 32 weeks of basic training, 16 weeks of Arctic and Survival training I was sent with the rest of my Regiment 42 Commando, to the Falkland Islands in 1982, when Argentina invaded the Falklands and other British territories in the South Atlantic.
On the 21st of May at 1am we landed at Fanning Head, about 1 to 2 miles from San Carlos in company strength, we had rowed our rubber landing boats to keep the element surprise on our side. After organising in pitch black conditions, we quietly spread out to cover the main landing force from counter attack, and to take out any enemy lookouts. After the main landing force had achieved a successful base of Operations we were relieved. We kitted up at about 4pm, we were carrying about 120lbs per man plus our weapons and ammunition, about 30 more pounds, and we started the 'yomp' (march) to find the enemy.
The reason we had to move on foot was because the vast majority of our transport helicopters were lost when the Atlantic Conveyor was sunk, we only had 1 Chinook. After several small engagements, mainly hastily arranged enemy traps or Farm buildings, we joined up with the Gurkha's just south of Mt. Kent. There we had our first hot meal since our insertion. I never knew you could be that exhausted, all of our feet were rotting and split from the thick boggy terrain we had been through in freezing weather, but we had covered between 55 to 60 miles. After a 12 hour rest on freezing rocks, we attacked the south of Mt. Harriet while the Gurkha's launched a fierce attack howling at the Argentinian positions. Oh yeah, so they don't throw a hissy fit, 45 Commando attacked Two Sisters Ridge too apparently. After a few more hours we moved west with the Gurkha's and gave cover support to the Scots Guards attacked the enemy on Mt. Tumbledown, after a vicious gun and hand to hand battle the last of the Argentinian forces retreated to their last defensive positions. Along with the Scots, Gurkha's and some Paras, we then set ourselves ready just south of Sapper Hill and waited for the order to come to finish off the enemy outside Stanley. We could almost taste the relief when they surrendered on the 14th of June after 5 days of exchanges, some very intense.
I sat on a pavement in Stanley having my feet treated by a medic while a young girl (about 12) talked my ears off about her favourite books while eating any chocolate I had on me. When 3 of my brothers came and sat beside me. One of my brothers jabbed me in the ribs as we smoked, I felt a sharp pain, the medic checked my ribs and discovered I had been lucky and only received a graze from an enemy bullet. My brother started laughing, and told me I'd finally lost my virginity. After returning back in the U.K. we stayed at our Parents and spent at least a week drinking before re-joining our Regiments. I served in the Royal Marine Commandos and other more specialised groups until 2015 before having my active career ended in Afghanistan. I was retired in 2017 on medical reasons.
I now am nearly completely dependant on a wheelchair, but life is still good. I have PTSD and depression. But to make up for it, I have been married to my wife for 38 years, and in love with her since I was 15. We have 4 children and 7 grand children. So life is better than I deserve.
As a fighting force and National Military, we had achieved something that no other Western Armed Forces could have under the same extreme operational conditions. The Yanks didn't provide any weapons or support.
The General Belgrano was formally the USS Phoenix before being sold to Argentina in 1951. She survived the attack on Pear Harbor and a lot of WW 2 US Navy vets were upset at the sinking of a Pearl Harbor survivor.
The PM before Thatcher (Wilson) closed hundreds more mines than she did.
That’s a fact btw
The PM before Thatcher was James Callaghan
@@Waterford1992 Apologies. The fact still stands though 😏
While the ground battles were one sided, the Argentinian air force made a very good showing in this war. Aside from the ships they did sink with anti-ship missiles, they landed nearly a dozen hits with 500kg bombs that failed to explode. If it hadn't been for shoddy fuzes the British losses would have been way worse.
Another bit of technical limitation that screwed the Argentinians was their aircraft carriers catapults; they were too weak to launch fully loaded jet aircraft unless they were sailing into a stiff wind (at least 24km/h) which normally wasn't an issue off the coast of Argentina where winds average nearly 35km/h. The day of a big combined air strike saw calm winds all day, forcing them to postpone. Then the day after the Gen. Belgrano was sunk and the fleet was ordered back into port.
Guy on the left is so patriotic. Haha ❤️
*#Oversimplified* could've pointed out the Argentina ship *General Belgrano* was formerly an American ship *USS Phoenix* during *World War II* before being sold to the Argentinians.
It was also sank by a British Nuclear Sub *HMS Conqueror* the only sinking by a Nuclear Sub in history!!!
Usurpation Myth
Britain did not expel the Argentine population in 1833. They merely reasserted sovereignty. The only group Britain did expel was a 26-man Argentine garrison that had already made plans to leave the islands. The events of 1832/33 are explained here: Falklands - The Usurpation Myth (1 pg): www.academia.edu/44026596/Falklands_The_Usurpation_Myth
They still held it only for about a decade.
I am an American. I am aware of the Falklands war. I had no idea it was so large of a conflict. Like Dave.
the falkland war was literally the modern version of the pearl harbor in world war 2. both nations attacked without declaration of war
You guys laughed at the number of votes for Argentina versus the British and the LOL but in the screen right before that it showed the casualties for the British and Argentina two to one killed and injured
While on the Johnny Carson show in the early 80s Robin Williams did a joke about the Falklands, but only about the name and its similarity to a particular swear word. He was able to do a whole bit swearing on national TV without actually swearing.
If you notice trouble seems to always follow weakness or instability. The QE carriers ironically will allow the Argentinians to be happy and untempted toward conflict.
I spent some time in Argentina and its a great place to visit. Quite a corrupt, poor country but the people are so nice 👍👍
the most important tool a man can posses is his mind ,is history and when you take information like that way i.e the falkland's war's or knowledge of margaret thatcher then and only then do you have power over how man think's, act's, ect. also love the vid's
11:30 yonkers hat bloke: look here blonde eyelashes stop drinking and read
Edit: "have a read" is now my favorite British phrase
Vulcan Bomber is 5 miles from my house and used to see it often through my childhood... i also visited it once.. awesome shit!
I always smile whenever Mike says dotcom
Thanks for the video, Blokes!
Congrats on the growth of your channel!!!
We in America are quite fond of Mrs. Thatcher. Got to see her when she came to Houston for The Economic Summit. Ex worked on planning events in The White House for Bush 41. It was in in the dead of summer and they had to put small weights in her dress for outdoor events since the AC was shot up from the ground. You might want to look up a story about two Argentines that played for one of your soccer teams on how they had to deal with things and how they were treated. As for the war I think we did a little more than just supplies but kept things very quiet. Reagan and Thatcher got along great and it was her suggestion to Reagan that Gorbachov was “someone we could deal with”. Also the Blok that lived in The Woodlands those rectangular flags monument (Union Jack being one) outside of Bush Intercontinental Airport is from the summit.
not everyone likes her, speak for yourself
"french would've just surrendered when they got here anyway" laughs in William the Conquerer
Hey congrats on the 10,000th in the world milestone!
I dno if anyone has touched on this but there is a paper I read last year describing in detail encryption methods between ww2 and the present. the main company that created encryption devices was in switzerland and to sum it up a lot of countries bought from this company but this company had been infiltrated and used by I think the US, west germany and by the time of the falkland wars the british as well. since argentina bought its encryption devices from that company the british made a play to have them, sent designs with a fault that the british could easily crack and thus had knowledge of all argentinian movements and actions which ties into thsi oversimplified video when he says the british forces often outnumbered and outgunned still came out on top. I believe the company is called crypto AG. look it up
There isnt much more oversimplified videos left are there
I love the Oversimplified reactions!
I was 18 years old in the central U.S., and although I had an instinctual support for the United Kingdom, the news coverage showed so many of the Argentinians were just conscripted, frightened kids my age. I know there were many U.K. soldiers that were 18, but they were volunteers. I felt sympathy and empathy toward all, and I'm happy the U.K won.
"Prohibition: On the Beer"
Can't wait!
You guys should check out some of "Secret Base" videos about sports beef history. Shaq versus Dwight Howard is particularly petty and interesting.
Poor Mike. Everyone clowning on health and safety with their two arms and two eyes.
The BBC has a lot to answer for regarding this war. They fucked up a few times, but the biggest issue was the attack on Goose Green. The BBC released a report about it the night before the attack happened, thus tipping off the Argentines that the attack was coming. The guy in charge of the attack was quoted as saying to his men "Gentlemen. Tomorrow, the prospects for promotion are going to be fucking excellent" because he knew a lot of them were going to be killed. He wasn't wrong. He himself died in the attack and his family sued the BBC.
I watched this war on the news as it happened and was not aware until now that America offered U.K. to borrow one of its aircraft carriers if their two carriers were damaged. That was a Dept of Defense release from the pentagon in 1982...they also helped with refueling which i knew about. Anybody who does not think that is true can google it like i did. Have to be good buddies to loan an aircraft carrier.
Dave making a Gump joke bout a Brit war, perfection!
"Thatcher modernized Britain" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 fuck me
I need to go re-watch the Top Gear special from down there
Sporting the hoodie as i watch
Awesome 👍
Love you blokes, can't wait to see you guys play some American football, try the quarterback challenge
Here before the channel completely explodes in subs ;D
I was in Argentina in 1990 in the USMC to do some training One of the Ncos I met was in the war and was captured. Most of the other I trained with were conscripted.
Congrats on the "top 10,000" mates!
Hey, did you guys stop uploading your podcast to google podcast? It says the last one you uploaded was back in September.
"Gurkhas" from Nepal comes to my mind when Falklands is mentioned.
Yall are so cute!!! I think I might need subtitles sometimes.
They got to do oversimplified emu war.
I worked in Peru during the Falklands war (all of South America called it “Las Malvinas”), and much of South America was a mess at the time. Peru was in the midst of its own fight against Narco-traffickers and the Sendero Luminoso, a Maoist terrorist group that also protected the traffickers for money to carry on their own terrorism. Had to leave Ayacucho because of there was an active search for anglos like me. Argentina itself completely scratched out my passport visa to work in their country. It was a crazy time. I do remember a conversation with a Peruvian who wondered at the British forces, would they come, how tough are they really. At the time the UK was seen as being on the wane, quickly becoming a third world military power. I can rightly say that I said. “Britain is older and weaker than it should be, but the iron maiden (Thatcher) will have more than enough backbone to make up for any loss in the luster of their forces”. He was not happy and at a later time I was detained for a day by local authorities. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ such is the life
I presume I am close to the same age as the middle bloke guy with the prepubescent facial hair.
The Falklands War is the only time a nuclear submarine has sunk a ship, at least that is publicly known..
There are some vessels lost in the Cold War that could have been sunk. It is possible some collisions or hostile actions occurred but were reported as accidents or cause unknown to avoid escalation of the cold war.
How the hell did Dave bleach his eyelashes? That had to be difficult. Props
These blokes are like 40yo 16-year-olds and I love them
The first British casualties were actually inflicted by American citizens who were snipers. Ironically I was told by someone in the US Army that American rangers secretly went with the British troops in the expeditionary force. The snipers were Argentinian Americans who had served in the US military. After the war an American general went around speaking to them to document exactly who they were and their motivations because there were rumors they might be mercenaries. Turns out all were simply Argentinians fighting for their country. The US has always had enormous numbers of foreign-associated troops. In some instances, such as with Sihks, for better political relations with India, Sihks were restricted from being in the US army because they were using their US training to go over to fight the Indians.
Went to the Falklands came back not right
USA- laughs in PTSD
You guys should watch the Falklands War 2017 on Binkov's Battlegrounds.
The chair of my post-graduate thesis committee originally hails from Argentina. He hasn't lived in that nation since he began college. Yet, he still refers to the islands as the "Malvinas." It wasn't that this was simply the United Nations name for the islands in Spanish but, rather, that he still sees them as Argentine possessions. If you even bring it up, he becomes quite agitated over the subject. On the other hand, his wife told me that the islands were better off in the hands of the British. Given Argentina's long history of corruption and a "dirty war," she said that she would welcome the British or Americans to colonize Argentina as well.
The war was a very touchy subject as well for the Reagan Administration, as the big shots in Washington wanted the help of both the UK and Argentina in the push against the Soviet Union in the last years of the Cold War. However, as actual fighting became inevitable the U.S. government sided firmly with Britain, as Argentina could provide little help in Central America, but a Thatcher Government was absolutely crucial for rebuilding NATO and it seemed likely that Michael Foot's Labour would appease Soviet demands if they came into power in the next election after a Falklands disaster.
Gotta do Prohibiton
We still don’t learn it at school still
After the UK won the Falklands war Ronald Reagan was jealous of Maggie so the US invaded Grenada. It was over very quickly as all there was there were medical schools for students who couldn’t get admitted to a US medical school.
"Strategic sheep purposes"
React to the cold war by over simplified or the USS Ronald Reagan by Spark :)
All except Chile backed Argentina. Also that Ascension Island is so far away... Only if there was some place closer.
you should chheck out the american cival war next
Come to el paso tx, I'll guide you and you'll have the most authentic mexican food you can find in the states
Try oversimplified “American Civil War” parts 1-2
You don't like doing long reactions but you guys should really watch at least on your own time the *20th century battlefields (1982 Falkland Wars)* episode it was a great show where the *BBC* production hosted by *Peter Snow* & the son *Can Show*
Im from argentina, I dont blame the islanders for wanting to be part of Britain
This is an ultimate example of how reality can be complex. British had sovereignty violated. But-- island is in Latin America. For Argentina, they were defying a colonial power, white Europeans, one of the most privileged, wealthy, and advanced nations in the West. But--the Argentine government was a dictatorship supported by anti-communist USA, using young boys to fight.
Rest in peace to those boys who fell
Margret Thatcher took no shit from anyone
fuckin love her
She was covered by house rubble during the Blitz. She carried a flashlight/torch in her purse because she was scared of the dark.
Gotta love how tight U.S.A. And GB are. Would love to know what normal Brits think about having US as a very close allies and friends in international issues..!!??? I know being an American it’s good to have the Brits covering your back. And I do consider them very powerful!!
to be honest we hate and love you at the same time some are bitter because of America propping up the dictatorship
Honestly it can be difficult to call you allies some of the time.
Maggie Thatcher was in a tough spot. If she had backed down, or likely even negotiated, then she would have been labeled "weak" - (You can just hear "what do you expect from a woman?")
and likely would have been pushed out of office.
But also, while the US State department might have been confused, popular opinion was not - and Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan definitely spoke the same language.
Since then I've been to Ascension Island a couple of times... they still remember.
More Oversimplified!!!!
Watch Lil Dicky's Pillow Talking
TH-cam Top Gear Argentina one of the local side of the plate they all got mad the license plate referred to the Falkland Wars I was just dumb luck
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Could've been avoided if the U.S. had claimed the Falklands when they destroyed Port Louis in 1832.
interesting, which also most likely it would've ended up back in argentinas hands because well the americans wouldn't care
@Levi Ligget lol
The US was not really interested colonization like that until the 1840's. We had established the principles that became the Monroe Doctrine but lacked the strength to enforce it. And the Mexican state of Texas was revolting so we were hoping for a piece. Instead, we got the independent Republic of Texas.
Sadly pre-Guano Islands Act, or that actually would have happened.
Seaman and Rear Admirals
It’s kinda weird how most people in the UK have a negative opinion of thatcher but internationally she’s generally viewed positivity
The reason is they don’t live in the communities that were devastated for good or ill by her policies. It’s easy to applaud some one from a distance.
I don't think she's viewed positively in general.
Falklands War-----Two bald men fighting over a comb.
SO FUCKING GLAD DAVE IS PRO THATCHER
The falklands still belong to latin america
Can anyone tell me the origin of the Argentinian name for the islands, the Islas Malvinas? I think Lord Falkland was clearly the origin of the English name, Falklands.
I read up that the name Islas Malvinas is the Spanish spelling of the name the French gave the islands which is Îles Malouines.
Now you have to worry about the U.S after the oil discovery.
Please tell me me you've seen the Argentinean TopGear UK episode...