The crow can be placed up to 2 tiles away from Raven. And at 1:02:00, the alarm in the camera room wouldn't have been triggered because there was no guard in another camera room.....
It's entertaining how many times you all debate whether to give Lincoln the roller skates even though you all have just talked about how he can't use them numerous times because he has the bust. Overall really good explanation of the game and it seems really fun. Thanks for the video.
I finally managed to find this game and just did a solo run-through. I was on the 3rd floor and one space away from the stairs when the guard caught me. Such an AMAZING game!!!
@Ivo Louppen Well, to tell you the truth. I think it makes more sense if the camera room was a permanent alarm room instead of a temporary one, which depends on the guard being on another camera room. No guard in real life switches back and forth between patrol and checking cameras in the CCTV control room. So I like the fact that they made this mistake, but at the same time not so much. Very old video and comment thread, but I wanted to voice my opinion.
After watching through the game, they have also forgotten to pull event cards after not completing all of their actions. This happens in the second half on the second floor mostly.
@@thehotdogman9317 While this is true the interesting part about how camera tiles work in this game is that if any guard is on a camera tile it watches all cameras on all floors. I once had a game where we were about to escape on floor 3 but the guard on lvl 1 was on cameras and since they don't move till you end your turn on that floor we got caught 😂
Dave seemed like a huge Alpha gamer during this game. Personal rule, nobody moves another players piece unless directed to by the player. Nikki seemed like she was ignored for the most part. Cooperative games are great and everyone should collaborate and listen to one another, but each person should have final say for their own turns.
Killer_of_ Eden I felt the same way. Most Alpha gamers are trying to be helpful but end up sounding like they just want to control everyone else's turn.
Whenever one of the guys is referring to another player, it's "you" or they use their name. Whenever they refer to Nikki it's "she". Felt so bad for Nikki all the way through that, these guys are jerks
@@AdamRussellCycling perhaps because ALL of the other players are guys? nikki also failed to comprehend basic rules and remember them for most of the game. she tends to be slower at picking up games than some of the other guys on the show. yes dave should not have done what he did making all decisions for her, however she never made a decision and seemed paralyzed in decision making. very annoying game to watch in all honesty
japol hmmmmm. It could be rampant sexism. Or it could be Nikki is finding it hard to get the rules (and she is), or it could be a combination of their personality styles. E.g. Dave in particular seems to find it hard to not be blunt. He tends to think out aloud too. But perhaps I’m just mansplaining? Presenting things ideologically is the best Way to suck the fucking joy out of everything. We should ask Nikki what she thinks. And if she is annoyed she could say so. My female friends have no problem telling me to shut up. But perhaps I’m in an oppressive matriarchy.
What a game ! I've only played it once but I loved it. I bought it and received it... just as lockdown started ! Ah, ah, ah ! Thanks guys. I love your videos. Please : more Nikki explaining the games.
Great video for a great game! Just rewatched it (appropriately for a heist in the middle of the night) after seeing Rodney 'Watch it Played'-video for part 2 and enjoyed it very much. Hope to get a package in the mail soon! Love the thematically and totally awesome intro. Rusty did a really good job with the rules explanation. Hope to give it a try asap!
As someone that was really interested in this game but doesn't have a group that would like this I recently discovered that there is an app for this game didn't cost much and its great.
tried this yesterday. we had a very bad setup of being surrounded by traps and deadbolts in our starting zone. had to give up a turn to avoid the guard and do nothing. We didnt' make it past the first floor but we still had a good time. I definitely want to try it again.
I've played it in this style, it's so much fun and a bit stressful lol. I got a wooden high rise tower with mine and I can't wait to try it like that :)
the dude with the low hanging glasses looks like he doesn't have any fun at all. He looks so stiff and dry, like my physics teacher :/ all the others however had a blast.
Cool game. I'd pick it up with my friends just to try and finish a game with the impossible task of nobody getting hit and seeing if it's doable with the random setups that we get.
I spotted a few rule mistakes as well, but oh well! The game is fun either way. I do have a clarification question though.. how can you win by collecting ALL the loot cards, when you only get one for cracking the safe?
I could be wrong as my friend is borrowing my copy, but did you guys remove "x" amount of cards from each guard deck. If I remember it's supposed to be imperfect knowledge as in he could be going there or there or there... also it forces you to reshuffle all the cards faster thus increasing the guard movement.
Hello, and forgive me if you already know the answer to your question but in a 4 player game, no patrol cards are discarded. Also when discard patrol card, you are allowed to look through the discard pile. Unless, you might be thinking of the more advanced and expert rules provided by the game, but they are playing the beginner variation.
That's typical for all of their play throughs because they want everyone(Including the ones playing the game) to know ALL of the rules and ask questions(If any) about clariffication to those rules.
+Jared Quintana yes but I think he rarely wins anyway - LOL - I think its part of being the main person who explains the games and that can lead to alpha type playing - I get the impression and its certainly been said on some videos that he has played some games 2 or 3 times while for the others its fresh - again I think familiarity brings an element of alpha behaviour
+Tor Iver Wilhelmsen I do understand Coop games lend themselves to this. It is something I know I have to keep reminding myself to not do when I play. I have watched other episodes and it does seem to be a re-occurring theme outside of coop games though. Although the "help" seems to be directed at Nikki. I also understand that this group plays friendly and maybe they either do not see it or choose to overlook it. Either way I do enjoy their videos. I just wish sometimes the other players will tell those that like to "give advice" to just shut their trap :P
+Matthew Bair the rules describe it as like in the movies - "time only passes when the camera is on you". In movie logic - it totally works and is a fun mechanic I think.
seems very much like Forbidden Desert a little too close for comfort for me - I think I prefer Dave as an explainer of games - Rusty was okay but Dave seems very good
At 35:35 they didn't move the guard "clockwise". The guard should have taken the path through the safe room and found two players. A big mistake like that this early in the game makes me think a lot more mistakes are going to happen.
I know your comment was literally 6 years ago but there's walls blocking the "clockwise" route, you can see them there all game. Only one way to get to the square the guard was aiming for.
The crow can be placed up to 2 tiles away from Raven. And at 1:02:00, the alarm in the camera room wouldn't have been triggered because there was no guard in another camera room.....
I came to check in the comments about that camera trigger! Thanks
The guy explaining the rules defys gravity with his never-seems-to-fall-of-the-nose-glasses 24:35
+suxxid100 OMG! How is that even possible!??
+suxxid100 lol
It's entertaining how many times you all debate whether to give Lincoln the roller skates even though you all have just talked about how he can't use them numerous times because he has the bust. Overall really good explanation of the game and it seems really fun. Thanks for the video.
I finally managed to find this game and just did a solo run-through. I was on the 3rd floor and one space away from the stairs when the guard caught me. Such an AMAZING game!!!
For the last movement wouldn't the guard have gone through the route with the safe because of clockwise movement rules?
I was just wondering that too.
+boardgamegeektv I counted it out i think it was the same
@Ivo Louppen Well, to tell you the truth. I think it makes more sense if the camera room was a permanent alarm room instead of a temporary one, which depends on the guard being on another camera room. No guard in real life switches back and forth between patrol and checking cameras in the CCTV control room. So I like the fact that they made this mistake, but at the same time not so much.
Very old video and comment thread, but I wanted to voice my opinion.
After watching through the game, they have also forgotten to pull event cards after not completing all of their actions. This happens in the second half on the second floor mostly.
@@thehotdogman9317 While this is true the interesting part about how camera tiles work in this game is that if any guard is on a camera tile it watches all cameras on all floors. I once had a game where we were about to escape on floor 3 but the guard on lvl 1 was on cameras and since they don't move till you end your turn on that floor we got caught 😂
Dave seemed like a huge Alpha gamer during this game. Personal rule, nobody moves another players piece unless directed to by the player. Nikki seemed like she was ignored for the most part. Cooperative games are great and everyone should collaborate and listen to one another, but each person should have final say for their own turns.
Killer_of_ Eden I felt the same way. Most Alpha gamers are trying to be helpful but end up sounding like they just want to control everyone else's turn.
This seems to be a theme on the show. It happens on most episodes.
Seems like that this game is prone to alpha gaming. Everything is laid out for everybody to see.
Whenever one of the guys is referring to another player, it's "you" or they use their name. Whenever they refer to Nikki it's "she".
Felt so bad for Nikki all the way through that, these guys are jerks
@@AdamRussellCycling perhaps because ALL of the other players are guys? nikki also failed to comprehend basic rules and remember them for most of the game. she tends to be slower at picking up games than some of the other guys on the show. yes dave should not have done what he did making all decisions for her, however she never made a decision and seemed paralyzed in decision making. very annoying game to watch in all honesty
Great video as always, but I sometimes feel that everyone seems to want to control Nikki's game
Lee Ko my exact opinion. I think this unfortunately is a trend with women in the gaming community
Found the MRA fuckbag
I agree. At the 1 hour mark she had a good idea and was totally ignored.
japol hmmmmm. It could be rampant sexism. Or it could be Nikki is finding it hard to get the rules (and she is), or it could be a combination of their personality styles. E.g. Dave in particular seems to find it hard to not be blunt. He tends to think out aloud too. But perhaps I’m just mansplaining? Presenting things ideologically is the best Way to suck the fucking joy out of everything. We should ask Nikki what she thinks. And if she is annoyed she could say so. My female friends have no problem telling me to shut up. But perhaps I’m in an oppressive matriarchy.
People notice this about Nikki in literally every Game Night video
What a game ! I've only played it once but I loved it. I bought it and received it... just as lockdown started ! Ah, ah, ah ! Thanks guys. I love your videos. Please : more Nikki explaining the games.
Best opening yet!
Too much quarterbacking by Dave, otherwise a great game!
I was disappointed that Rusty's glasses didn't fall off his face during the explanation since they slowly kept inching down. :-D
Great video for a great game!
Just rewatched it (appropriately for a heist in the middle of the night) after seeing Rodney 'Watch it Played'-video for part 2 and enjoyed it very much. Hope to get a package in the mail soon!
Love the thematically and totally awesome intro. Rusty did a really good job with the rules explanation. Hope to give it a try asap!
Why did the camera room altar go off at 1:02:00 if the guard wasn't in another camera room?
***alarm
Exactly. They muffed that one up!!
+DollarValue1976 it happens. Looks like fun though
I wonder that too... They must played that wrong?
I just got this game and an currently watching this video. Yeah they screwed up. Can't believe no one caught this.
As someone that was really interested in this game but doesn't have a group that would like this I recently discovered that there is an app for this game didn't cost much and its great.
Great overview of the game, but did anyone else find Dave super obnoxious?
You can tell Rusty really wanted to play the three floor game. He seemed a bit bummed at the beginning.
Not only looks like a fun game to play, but this was a very fun game to watch! Might have to go on my wishlist.
I finally received my copy of this game yesterday. I am so happy to have it. It is such an awesome game! Played it twice already.
"What was the dog?!?" Poor lady kept asking about the dang dog! Answer her already!!!
Lol love the opening guys!
Great explanation of the game by Rusty!
tried this yesterday. we had a very bad setup of being surrounded by traps and deadbolts in our starting zone. had to give up a turn to avoid the guard and do nothing. We didnt' make it past the first floor but we still had a good time. I definitely want to try it again.
I've played it in this style, it's so much fun and a bit stressful lol. I got a wooden high rise tower with mine and I can't wait to try it like that :)
I want Dusty's T-shirt! I know Linko wears it in another episode too...
Around 45:00 wouldn't the guard have moved clockwise towards the target room?
+Access Your Inner Light Nevermind, the other way was the shorter route.
LOL @ Nicki "Why do you want to do this to ME?"
exciting game :D
the dude with the low hanging glasses looks like he doesn't have any fun at all. He looks so stiff and dry, like my physics teacher :/ all the others however had a blast.
I adore Room 25 so this is exactly my kind of games!!
I played room 25 before, I don't like the traitor element, have you tried this one yet? Which one is better?
Cool game. I'd pick it up with my friends just to try and finish a game with the impossible task of nobody getting hit and seeing if it's doable with the random setups that we get.
I spotted a few rule mistakes as well, but oh well! The game is fun either way. I do have a clarification question though.. how can you win by collecting ALL the loot cards, when you only get one for cracking the safe?
I could be wrong as my friend is borrowing my copy, but did you guys remove "x" amount of cards from each guard deck. If I remember it's supposed to be imperfect knowledge as in he could be going there or there or there... also it forces you to reshuffle all the cards faster thus increasing the guard movement.
Hello, and forgive me if you already know the answer to your question but in a 4 player game, no patrol cards are discarded. Also when discard patrol card, you are allowed to look through the discard pile. Unless, you might be thinking of the more advanced and expert rules provided by the game, but they are playing the beginner variation.
25:00 if you want to skip the rules
20 minutes to explain how to play! Holy CRAP!
That's typical for all of their play throughs because they want everyone(Including the ones playing the game) to know ALL of the rules and ask questions(If any) about clariffication to those rules.
Is it just me or does Dave seem to alpha game a bit?
+Jared Quintana yes but I think he rarely wins anyway - LOL - I think its part of being the main person who explains the games and that can lead to alpha type playing - I get the impression and its certainly been said on some videos that he has played some games 2 or 3 times while for the others its fresh - again I think familiarity brings an element of alpha behaviour
+Jared Quintana coop games bring that out in people, but he was not the only one.
+Tor Iver Wilhelmsen I do understand Coop games lend themselves to this. It is something I know I have to keep reminding myself to not do when I play. I have watched other episodes and it does seem to be a re-occurring theme outside of coop games though. Although the "help" seems to be directed at Nikki. I also understand that this group plays friendly and maybe they either do not see it or choose to overlook it. Either way I do enjoy their videos. I just wish sometimes the other players will tell those that like to "give advice" to just shut their trap :P
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This game looks fun! Where can I get it?
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49:02 - I thought a guard is always activated if "any" player is on that guards floor? Not just the "active" player?
+Matthew Bair the rules describe it as like in the movies - "time only passes when the camera is on you". In movie logic - it totally works and is a fun mechanic I think.
+BoardGameGeekTV it's because that's how it works in the movies
Were there a few times that an event card should have been pulled after people skipped an action? I felt like that got forgotten.
+Alex Cannon I'm pretty sure we did that correctly. You draw an event card if you only use 2 or less of your 4 actions.
Ah okay! I thought it was just "less than 4 actions." Thanks for the reply, keep up the good work :)
What a cool game! Needs sound effects. You could add an alarm sound from your smartphone when triggered in the game!
"Abracadabra" - half baked. hahahaha
where can I get a copy of this bad boy, then?
+Doug Breese Fowers Games
Thanks!
seems very much like Forbidden Desert a little too close for comfort for me - I think I prefer Dave as an explainer of games - Rusty was okay but Dave seems very good
Alright, no joke, I just yesterday had the idea for a co-op heist board game, but apparently I don't have to develop it
At 35:35 they didn't move the guard "clockwise". The guard should have taken the path through the safe room and found two players. A big mistake like that this early in the game makes me think a lot more mistakes are going to happen.
I know your comment was literally 6 years ago but there's walls blocking the "clockwise" route, you can see them there all game. Only one way to get to the square the guard was aiming for.