@@lhtyeehaw1319 the lead singer says flag, shouting, cry, and true with much older vowels. They have features that have completely died out in American English since then. It's not really noticeable at first, but if you're trained to listen to the vowel differences then it becomes a lot more obvious.
When I was a kid, an old woman and man named Greg and Terry used to come to our school and sing us civil war and slave songs we could sing along to. It was to educate us about history at a young age, rest their souls. They made me gain my curiosity for history and its preservation. They played this song every time they came, it was the first one 4 years. Hard to believe that was 10 years ago.
1911? That means this recording pre dates the sinking of the titanic by one year. Let that sink in. We are listening voices that are 108 years old and are long dead. And to mess with your head more, this recording was made when many veterans of the civil war were still alive.
Gordon Adams I know, that recording is a lot more eerie to listen to. Knowing that these singers probably met several civil war vets is crazy to think about
@@charlietheanteater3918 Get this, there are people still alive who met Civil War vets. The last one died in the 1950's and in the 1930's there were still a bunch in their 90's. There is footage from the 50th and 75th anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg you can watch on TH-cam. There is also a couple interviews with civil war vets you can listen too.
In no other form can the voices be heard from such a long time ago. This alone is amazing. Other than that we would not even truly know what people sounded like pre record and tape recording.
So very evocative of the feeling of those times. This, along with “Tenting tonight on the old campground”, and so many songs of Stephen Foster leave a strong impression of what life was like during the Civil War. Walking, or driving through some areas of Virginia and Washington, D.C. you still feel it.
And to think about it, this was probably heard by actual civil war veterans. The american accent was very different back then. Or maybe it was an FDR accent.
There are almost as many years between the recording of this song and the entirety of the Beatles' discography than there are between the last Beatles album and today. Let that sink in for a second.
That's really interesting because the voices from the records of The Beatles are so clear and concise compared to this cylinder the audio Fidelity is barely tolerable imagine 20,000 years from now if anything survives it won't be that distinguishable from the recorded media of the future does anyone here think that 64-bit audio depth is too little? To them it may just seem like a compressed file without the date metadata they wouldn't know.
No mention of the fact ‘although he may be poor he will never be a slave’ either. This version was clearly heavily sanitised to make it more acceptable in the southern states.
Think about this: 109 years ago, Theodore Roosevelt was alive, and the civil war generation was still kicking about in veterans homes, and the last veteran of the USS Monitor was still alive. *And yet this video gets a COPYRIGHT STRIKE for playing a song from a time when the men who originally sang it had the chance to hear it on recording.* Utterly disgusting. Edit: there is a lot of lost causers around this video, might as well poke the hornets nest of Neo’s and boomers by bluntly stating the south fought for slavery and only slavery, convince me that in all 11 ordinances of secession that they left over states rights or taxes.
Actually, it's a postwar version. The last stanza for example, originally had a threat, directed at the confederates: "So we’re springing to the call from the East and from the West, Shouting the battle cry of freedom! And we’ll hurl the rebel crew from the land we love best, Shouting the battle cry of freedom!" You check it out here (along with a southern version--also written during the war): www.civilwarheritagetrails.org/civil-war-music/battle-cry-of-freedom.html
Born in 1947, Thomas Edison was well aware of the Civil War. He probably took an interest in recording something like this. Given the rather primitive technology of the time, this cylinder recording is remarkably good!
Actually - Edison was born in 1847 and was 14 when the Civil War began. The youngest Civil War recruits/volunteers were the drummer boys who enlisted in early 1865 - born ca. 1850. The last Union soldier died in 1956 - he lived into the television age. Color film exists for this 109 year-old former soldier - viewable on TH-cam.
VERY cool indeed! I may be wrong, but it sounds like the main singer may have been from New York perhaps? The way he says Flag sounds New Yorkish. He is saying "Flayeg" Or at least it sounds it, maybe im wrong?
[fɫɛɡ] It's a Northern/Midwest American pronunciation and some Canadians have it too. They pronounce words like flag, bag, rag, and lag with a kind of "eh" vowel
@@solinus7131 Ah yes, it's a civil war song, but recorded in the late 1890's or early 10's for something like civil war veteran reunions and reenactment events. I don't guess there was recording technology yet in the 1860s?
Actually you can hear where the lyrics were changed to appease the south in 1911 they replaced the lyric freedmen with brave man and they added a lyric about the Southland Brave. No one in 1862 would say the Southland was Brave.
@@alyssachantaychampagne2773 The oldest audio recording was actually in 1860. Not sure there are any recordings of audio from the american civil war though.
amiedetherese US Everlasting and Lakeside cylinder records often do not indicate the actual artist(s) performing the selection on the rim of the cylinder. This one is no exception as it indicates only "DUET" for the artists. This can be seen early on in the video when I hold the cylinder title end in focus. In any case, I believe the lead singer is Frank Stanley and in spite of the designation "DUET" I'm reasonably confident that there are more than two people singing. US Everlasting cylinders were introduced in about May 1910 and Frank Stanley passed away in December 1910 so it is possible that this was one his last recordings if this was indeed him singing on this cylinder record.
@@MusicBoxBoy As other commenters have mentioned, the lead singer pronounces a long "A" in the word flag, as is typical in the Upper Midwest even today. However, Frank Stanley, according to Wikipedia was from New Jersey. The Library of Congress has a recording of Stanley singing the Star-Spangled Banner in which he pronounces flag with a short "A". adp.library.ucsb.edu/index.php/matrix/detail/200003270/B-1907-The_star_spangled_banner This seems to suggest that this recording was not likely to have been made by Stanley, does it not?
@@SeanGeo3 According to one of the many early recordings reference books here in my library this recording was sung by Byron G. Harlan and Joe Parsons. I'm 100% confident that the lead singer in this recording is not Harlan as I have hundreds of his recordings and know his voice well. However, Joe Parsons is a question mark. Very little is know about this artist and I'm wondering whether this was a stage name for Frank C. Stanley or some other early recording artist. The artist attributed as Joe Parsons apparently did not record for Edison or Columbia that I can find - only U-S Everlasting. Anyway, it's a bit of a mystery.
Levi Dowling was the Army chaplin for the Union army in 1864-1865. You can find his transcription of the Life Of Jesus in PDF on the internet. He received it through the Holy Spirit. It corresponds with The Bible in every respect.
''Our Dixie forever she's never at a loss down with eagle and up with the cross we will rally round the Bonnie Flag we will rally once again Shout Shout the Battle Cry of Freedom''.
And here we are 150+ years later singing this song once again as our union, freedom and constitution are once more under threat by right wing conservatives on the wrong side of history
What a disgusting thing to post on this very nice video. I’d say you ought to be ashamed of yourself, but you Shitmerican political monsters never really shut up, do you?
THE UNION FOREVER, HURRAH! BOY HURRAH! DOWN WITH THE TRAITOR, UP WITH THE STARS!!!! WHILE WE RALLY ROUND THE PLACE, BOYS, WE RALLY ONCE AGAIN SHOUTING CRY THE BATTLE OF FREEDOM!!!!!
"she's never at a loss": you can't fault the Rebels for failure to try, despite their lack of war materiel. Lee's men didn't even have shoes at the end.
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It's more interesting to hear the actual voices, to hear an American accent from over a century ago.
Very isolated areas of ohio sound like this
It's crazy to think that they're all dead now
I didn't notice an accent originally, but now I do notice a little bit
@@lhtyeehaw1319 the lead singer says flag, shouting, cry, and true with much older vowels. They have features that have completely died out in American English since then. It's not really noticeable at first, but if you're trained to listen to the vowel differences then it becomes a lot more obvious.
@@felixjefferson333 thanks for pointing those out, but I still don't hear it
When I was a kid, an old woman and man named Greg and Terry used to come to our school and sing us civil war and slave songs we could sing along to. It was to educate us about history at a young age, rest their souls. They made me gain my curiosity for history and its preservation. They played this song every time they came, it was the first one 4 years. Hard to believe that was 10 years ago.
1911?
That means this recording pre dates the sinking of the titanic by one year.
Let that sink in. We are listening voices that are 108 years old and are long dead.
And to mess with your head more, this recording was made when many veterans of the civil war were still alive.
Charlie Theanteater To mess with your head, there are a couple of Revolutionary War veterans photographed
Overland’s Modern Informative Bulletin I know, I’ve seen them. Some of the last revolutionary war vets died after the civil war.
There is a recording of this song from 1904 on here.
Gordon Adams I know, that recording is a lot more eerie to listen to. Knowing that these singers probably met several civil war vets is crazy to think about
@@charlietheanteater3918 Get this, there are people still alive who met Civil War vets. The last one died in the 1950's and in the 1930's there were still a bunch in their 90's. There is footage from the 50th and 75th anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg you can watch on TH-cam. There is also a couple interviews with civil war vets you can listen too.
In no other form can the voices be heard from such a long time ago. This alone is amazing. Other than that we would not even truly know what people sounded like pre record and tape recording.
It sounds very beautifully and with a strange note of nostalgia in it, even though I am not an American. Great machine!
Great song. Love the union version and the confederate version equally well
@@JakeVanderbeck do not feel obliged to sympathize with traitors, slave-holders, and racists.
So very evocative of the feeling of those times. This, along with “Tenting tonight on the old campground”, and so many songs of Stephen Foster leave a strong impression of what life was like during the Civil War. Walking, or driving through some areas of Virginia and Washington, D.C. you still feel it.
Starts at 2:17
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Thank you this is now preserved forever
Incredible. Thanks so much for sharing. The accents were particularly fascinating.
Aha! I’ve come across another one of your comments again.
Its good to think possibly a G.A.R.veteran originally owned this cylinder. Thanks for posting.
Fine-playing machine. Great, even sound.
And to think about it, this was probably heard by actual civil war veterans. The american accent was very different back then. Or maybe it was an FDR accent.
Both the song and the Edison player is a real piece of history! Thanks.
There are almost as many years between the recording of this song and the entirety of the Beatles' discography than there are between the last Beatles album and today. Let that sink in for a second.
That's really interesting because the voices from the records of The Beatles are so clear and concise compared to this cylinder the audio Fidelity is barely tolerable imagine 20,000 years from now if anything survives it won't be that distinguishable from the recorded media of the future does anyone here think that 64-bit audio depth is too little? To them it may just seem like a compressed file without the date metadata they wouldn't know.
That its preserved so well is mind boggling to me like wow
A beautiful Edison Opera I just love this Cylinder plays superbly your presentation as always for each video is outstanding great knowledge. 👍🎷🎷
This is cool. Thanks for posting.
It should be “a million freemen more” but I think this was recorded during jim-crow
it was
No they just changed the lyrics a bit
No mention of the fact ‘although he may be poor he will never be a slave’ either. This version was clearly heavily sanitised to make it more acceptable in the southern states.
Think about this: 109 years ago, Theodore Roosevelt was alive, and the civil war generation was still kicking about in veterans homes, and the last veteran of the USS Monitor was still alive. *And yet this video gets a COPYRIGHT STRIKE for playing a song from a time when the men who originally sang it had the chance to hear it on recording.* Utterly disgusting.
Edit: there is a lot of lost causers around this video, might as well poke the hornets nest of Neo’s and boomers by bluntly stating the south fought for slavery and only slavery, convince me that in all 11 ordinances of secession that they left over states rights or taxes.
Wait, oh, seven months. This recording, and all made before 1923, will fall into public domain.
@@lolobotius no, some generic company is doing it
Despite being among the Neo-Confederate and “Lost Causer” crowd, we’re in agreement that this video should not receive a copyright strike.
First heard this in the movie Virginia city with Miriam Hopkins...great tune
What an amazing piece of history.
WOW I love this stuff, thank you!! Great presentation!
Thanks for preserving history ! Excellent.
Thanks for that. This version's lyrics have been significantly altered from the original1862 version to be acceptable to listeners in the South.
“South land true and brave”
@@awildtannerwasfound5045They removed all the anti-slavery verses
That's definitely a catchy tune
Thanks for posting. i'm learning this on piano
The melody reminds me of "Waltzing Matilda". - Larry
Great to hear this version . Aubrey Shines uses it but only get to hear bits of it .
this IS the original version
Actually, it's a postwar version.
The last stanza for example, originally had a threat, directed at the confederates:
"So we’re springing to the call from the East and from the West,
Shouting the battle cry of freedom!
And we’ll hurl the rebel crew from the land we love best,
Shouting the battle cry of freedom!"
You check it out here (along with a southern version--also written during the war):
www.civilwarheritagetrails.org/civil-war-music/battle-cry-of-freedom.html
snaplet games I believe there was one recorded in 1904.
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Born in 1947, Thomas Edison was well aware of the Civil War. He probably took an interest in recording something like this. Given the rather primitive technology of the time, this cylinder recording is remarkably good!
Actually - Edison was born in 1847 and was 14 when the Civil War began. The youngest Civil War recruits/volunteers were the drummer boys who enlisted in early 1865 - born ca. 1850. The last Union soldier died in 1956 - he lived into the television age. Color film exists for this 109 year-old former soldier - viewable on TH-cam.
1847 mate
@@unclejosh4935 Youngest civil war vets were born in 1856, as there were 9-year-old boy-soldiers in 1865.
you mean 1847?
He'd more than be aware of a war he could legally be conscripted into.
This song speaks of us once again. As our freedom is yet under another attack.
Yes, from the Republicans.
@@charles_sumner3088 democrats
@@quagmiredavis4117 because voter suppression and littaraly storming the capitol is saving democracy
🍿 don’t mind me I’m waiting for this to blowup
@@quagmiredavis4117 tell me why democrats
I wonder if some northern communities still pronounce the word "flag" as it's heard in this recording.
Familiarly classic European in nature for it was very traditional.
Homo Erectus I can confirm this fact, though my family is from NYC
Nights on Broadway you hear it in upstate New York a bit, and much milder versions in various parts of New England
You can hear it words such as leg pronounced “layg”
Yes! I can confirm this. Sounded natural to me, from Detroit
I didn’t know voices harmonized back then. Splendid!
what?
They've been doing that millenia before the war...
Awesome
You should rip this to a PC or something
On faded wax or celluliod cylinders use white crayon white shoe polish to highlight the title end.
God I want one
VERY cool indeed! I may be wrong, but it sounds like the main singer may have been from New York perhaps? The way he says Flag sounds New Yorkish. He is saying "Flayeg" Or at least it sounds it, maybe im wrong?
[fɫɛɡ]
It's a Northern/Midwest American pronunciation and some Canadians have it too. They pronounce words like flag, bag, rag, and lag with a kind of "eh" vowel
Great demonstration.....thanks for posting it ....
love it
Much 19th century sheet music ..one sees the name G.F. Root.
What a classic civil war union propaganda. It's historic and shouldn't be forgotten. Thanks for producing it.
@@solinus7131 Ah yes, it's a civil war song, but recorded in the late 1890's or early 10's for something like civil war veteran reunions and reenactment events. I don't guess there was recording technology yet in the 1860s?
Actually you can hear where the lyrics were changed to appease the south in 1911 they replaced the lyric freedmen with brave man and they added a lyric about the Southland Brave. No one in 1862 would say the Southland was Brave.
@@Worldofourown2024 Recording technology was just being created in 1860's, nothing they would've recorded a song on
@@alyssachantaychampagne2773 The oldest audio recording was actually in 1860. Not sure there are any recordings of audio from the american civil war though.
@@Worldofourown2024 Look up phonautograph. Recording of audio began in the 1850s.
What is the info pertaining to this recording? What quartet was singing? Thanks
amiedetherese US Everlasting and Lakeside cylinder records often do not indicate the actual artist(s) performing the selection on the rim of the cylinder. This one is no exception as it indicates only "DUET" for the artists. This can be seen early on in the video when I hold the cylinder title end in focus. In any case, I believe the lead singer is Frank Stanley and in spite of the designation "DUET" I'm reasonably confident that there are more than two people singing. US Everlasting cylinders were introduced in about May 1910 and Frank Stanley passed away in December 1910 so it is possible that this was one his last recordings if this was indeed him singing on this cylinder record.
@@MusicBoxBoy As other commenters have mentioned, the lead singer pronounces a long "A" in the word flag, as is typical in the Upper Midwest even today. However, Frank Stanley, according to Wikipedia was from New Jersey. The Library of Congress has a recording of Stanley singing the Star-Spangled Banner in which he pronounces flag with a short "A". adp.library.ucsb.edu/index.php/matrix/detail/200003270/B-1907-The_star_spangled_banner This seems to suggest that this recording was not likely to have been made by Stanley, does it not?
@@SeanGeo3 According to one of the many early recordings reference books here in my library this recording was sung by Byron G. Harlan and Joe Parsons. I'm 100% confident that the lead singer in this recording is not Harlan as I have hundreds of his recordings and know his voice well. However, Joe Parsons is a question mark. Very little is know about this artist and I'm wondering whether this was a stage name for Frank C. Stanley or some other early recording artist. The artist attributed as Joe Parsons apparently did not record for Edison or Columbia that I can find - only U-S Everlasting. Anyway, it's a bit of a mystery.
@@MusicBoxBoy Thanks for the information!
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Very cool
2:19 is when the song really starts
Levi Dowling was the Army chaplin for the Union army in 1864-1865. You can find his transcription of the Life Of Jesus in PDF on the internet. He received it through the Holy Spirit. It corresponds with The Bible in every respect.
Song starts at 2:17
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Babson Bros in Chicago helped Edison. Trivia!
music starts at 2:18
Have you ever had these digitized?
wow that's the sound from 1862😆
the song was written in 1862, the cylinder came out in the 1910s (for civil war veterans)
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What year was that cylinder made??
when was this recording made?
snaplet games Around the turn of the last century.
1911
@@SituationNormalAint Recordings didnt even exist in the 1860s.
Sounds a lot like The Rose of Alabamy. So who ripped odd whom?
2:16 This is when the song starts just in case
Here if you wanna just skip to the song 2:15
when was this originally recorded?
who sings this song?
@Scott History
A loled at this comment
it's unknown- just says "duet"
23 rebels disliked this
But you can't see dislikes...
@@titanusghidorah7964
Unfortunately not anymore
Screw TH-cam and it’s corporatist attitude
Anyone here after A24’s Civil War movie?
Ah back in the days before auto-tune. :p
2:17
Why America Invent first sound recorder
Why
Why
Egyptians first made pyramid with limestone?
because we just happened to? the ancient Egyptians have nothing to do with this
''Our Dixie forever she's never at a loss down with eagle and up with the cross we will rally round the Bonnie Flag we will rally once again Shout Shout the Battle Cry of Freedom''.
Literally lost the only fight picked though and lasted less time than crystal pepsi
WT…
And here we are 150+ years later singing this song once again as our union, freedom and constitution are once more under threat by right wing conservatives on the wrong side of history
What a disgusting thing to post on this very nice video. I’d say you ought to be ashamed of yourself, but you Shitmerican political monsters never really shut up, do you?
Roman soldiers can sing
I've got the Southern version on CD
Don’t touch the threads!!!!
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Our Dixie forever
She's never had a loss
Down with the eagle and up with the cross
THE UNION FOREVER, HURRAH! BOY HURRAH!
DOWN WITH THE TRAITOR, UP WITH THE STARS!!!!
WHILE WE RALLY ROUND THE PLACE, BOYS, WE RALLY ONCE AGAIN
SHOUTING CRY THE BATTLE OF FREEDOM!!!!!
go home you Neo Confed
"she's never at a loss": you can't fault the Rebels for failure to try, despite their lack of war materiel. Lee's men didn't even have shoes at the end.
@@eoipso4282 I say let's try it again. Bet the South wins. Liberalism has driven manufacturing out of the north. I'm ready!
Never had a loss. Hmm yes the south never lost anything
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Very cool