New LiTime 12V Group 24 LiFePO4 Battery! Complete Review
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- Batteries in the video (affiliate links):
LiTime Group 24: www.litime.com/products/litim...
LiTime Trolling Motor Battery: www.litime.com/products/litim...
Large 460Ah 12V Litime Battery no bluetooth: www.litime.com/products/litim...
More expensive, but highest quality 12V Battery: www.epochbatteries.com/produc...
0:00 Intro
0:50 Charging Test
1:25 Surge Test
2:46 Overload and Continuous Discharge
3:15 Testing the App
5:42 Tear Down!
6:54 Low Temp Test
7:21 Conclusion
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Current Connected
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Litime
My favorite 12V budget battery!:
www.litime.com/?ref=XBIA62RFc...
Epoch Batteries
My favorite high-quality 12V battery:
www.epochbatteries.com/produc...
Renogy
A classic 12V solar store that has been around for ages! DC to DC Chargers and more!
renogy.sjv.io/n1VjXx
Rich Solar
Renogy's biggest competitor! Similar products, but at a better price:
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Battery Hookup
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*Batteries in the video (affiliate links):*
LiTime Group 24: www.litime.com/products/litime-12v-100ah-group-24-smart-lifepo4-lithium-deep-cycle-battery-built-in-100a-bms-1280wh-energy?ref=XBIA62RFcalHns
LiTime Trolling Motor Battery: www.litime.com/products/litime-12v-100ah-tm-deep-cycle-lifepo4-battery-for-trolling-motors?ref=XBIA62RFcalHns
Large 460Ah 12V Litime Battery no bluetooth: www.litime.com/products/litime-12v-460ah-lifepo4-lithium-battery-250a-bms-5888wh-energy?ref=XBIA62RFcalHns
More expensive, but highest quality 12V Battery: www.epochbatteries.com/products/12v-460ah-lifepo4-battery-ip67-heated-bluetooth-victron-comms?rfsn=7352625.50494d
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*Does off-grid solar confuse you?*
Check out my DIY friendly website for solar system packages and product recommendations, and so much more!
www.mobile-solarpower.com
*Join our DIY solar community*
#1 largest solar forum on the internet for beginners and professionals alike:
www.diysolarforum.com
*Check out my Book*
Best-selling and beginner-friendly guide to 12V off-grid solar!
amzn.to/2Aj4dX4
If DIY is not for you, but you love solar and need an offgrid system, check out Tesla Energy! They will price out a system and get your house offgrid: ts.la/william57509
*My DIY Solar Equipment Recommendations (Constantly updated! Check here first):*
12V/48V Lithium Solar Batteries: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solar-batteries.html
Complete Solar System Component Directory: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solarcomponents.html
Complete 48V System Blueprint: www.mobile-solarpower.com/48v-complete-system-blueprint.html
Plug-N-Play System Recommendations: www.mobile-solarpower.com/full-size-systems.html
Complete "Add to Cart" 48V System Kits: www.mobile-solarpower.com/complete-48v-solar-kits.html
DIY Friendly Air Conditioner/ Heat Pumps: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solar-friendly-air-conditioners.html
*My Favorite Online Stores for DIY Solar Products:*
*Signature Solar*
Offgrid One-Stop-Shop. Best Value 48V LiFePO4, Victron and Offgrid Specific Heat Pumps:
www.signaturesolar.com/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek
*Current Connected*
SOK, Victron, Mr.Cool Heatpumps and High Quality Components. Fantastic customer support:
currentconnected.com/?ref=wp
*Litime*
My favorite 12V budget battery!:
www.litime.com/?ref=XBIA62RFcalHns
*Epoch Batteries*
My favorite high-quality 12V battery:
www.epochbatteries.com/products/12v-460ah-lifepo4-battery-ip67-heated-bluetooth-victron-comms?rfsn=7352625.50494d
*Renogy*
A classic 12V solar store that has been around for ages! DC to DC Chargers and more!
renogy.sjv.io/n1VjXx
*Rich Solar*
Renogy's biggest competitor! Similar products, but at a better price:
richsolar.com/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek
*Battery Hookup*
Cheap cell deals
bit.ly/2mIxSqt
5% off code: diysolar
*Contact Information:*
I am NOT available for personal solar system consult! If you wish to contact me, this is my direct email: williamprowsediysolar@gmail.com
Join the forum at diysolarforum.com/ if you wish to hang out with myself and others and talk about solar
*FTC Disclosure Statement and Disclaimers:*
Every video includes some form of paid promotion or sponsorship. Some links on this youtube channel may be affiliate links. We may get paid if you buy something or take an action after clicking one of these. My videos are for educational purposes only. Information is subject to change/update at any time. Electricity is DANGEROUS and can kill. Be smart and use common sense :)
DIY Solar Power with Will Prowse is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program,
An affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com
0:00 Intro
0:50 Charging Test
1:25 Surge Test
2:46 Overload and Continuous Discharge
3:15 Testing the App
5:42 Tear Down!
6:54 Low Temp Test
7:21 Conclusion
Dude, it's time to test one of those sodium batteries
@@MrInsanitypleaThose sodium batteries suck their charge discharge curve is all over voltage wise!
Wonder how the Litime Max compares to the TM?
Got a LiTime mini as a freebie and had some questions for the manufacturer; they were right on top of it. Gave me my answers in a quick and polite manner.
I always enjoy watching your teardown videos. Thank you for making such great content!
Would LOVE to see you do a “battle” for best Trolling Motor battery
Thanks for another informative video. And thank you for the information about balancing cells in the batteries. I full-time in a motorhome and only plug it into power twice a year. It’s nice to hear someone with your knowledge that I agree with in saying that everything doesn’t have to be perfect as they still work fine. I hope you are still enjoying your GT4.
9:12
Thank you Will-count on you for everything solar/lithium/inverters etc.
FYI, they have a $70 off coupon on their website for the Bluetooth, I just ordered 2 for my boat and got them for the same price as the trolling motor battery
Ordered as well
Of course this comes out after I already went with EPOCH set up lol you’re gonna love it…troll for 2 days straight on 50% capacity…way better than lead acids…didn’t have to trickle charge mine all winter.
@@ScottieBManit's hard to stay ahead of the game. LiTime in Canada has had a price increase on some battery models, go figure 😊🇨🇦
@@stevecarlisle3323 i saw the tm at 389 cad last year
AWESOME info …… Went back and watched the Large 640 ah 12 volt video …..
Keep up the great work 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
I love you still review 12v 100Ah batteries and i hope you will never stop. Looking forward for more solar related uploads
Great Video as always Will 😎 That Victron multi plus looks nice
Great info as always!! thanks
More staccato videos, please I bought mine because of you! I love it
Cool update: How about a video about replacing the AC and DC distribution center for RV house with lithium battery ?
Most WfCO power centers are for lead acid batteries.
Love the videos! Always so informative and unbiased.
Do you have any plans to tear down any of Monster Marine series of Lithiums?
Thanks!
I spent this winter camping in Quartzsite Arizona and used two BtrPower 100AH batteries. They worked just fine and definitely got the job done. 187.99 each on Amazon right now.
Fantastic content bro!!!
If you are installing batteries in boats to go offshore, bluetooth is very useful. Being able to monitor the battery at cell level my head off any potential battery shut down in advance.
Great review.
Good finding the inside of both batteries all ways good saving money 🎉
Our Vegas weather has been all over the place.
Looking forward to your new shop...
Thanks Will ! TAKE CARE..
New subscriber. Liking the channel this far. Which charger is used to charge in the video? 50amp x2 is credible for this unit which is in my Amazon cart atm. Thanks again
great videos, i feel a lot more confident buying a battery now that you've opened so many of them up and can actually see the build quality and guts ... can you please post a link to the chargers you are using ? thanks !
I have 3 litime batteries. I’ve just had one fail after only one year of little use. 100 size. I have contacted their customer service and will update on how they handle warranty.
Have you heard from them yet?
What did warranty department say
Pls. let us know. Warranty service is most important, even above overall battery design/build. Cells fail randomly.
Still going back and forth. Will update
I've seen this happening to a lot of people with these and customer service is trying to ignore them
Very Nice and informative video. What wall charger do you recommend for this battery?
Thanks for the great videos buddy! I’m planning to buy a trolling motor battery next week, looks like I can get the Litime trolling motor battery or this one you did the review on for the same price with coupon through your link😄 was leaning towards the group 24 to use bluetooth but also saw epoch at the miami boat show a few weeks ago, bad ass batteries! FYI - I mentioned you to the guy at the epoch booth and he said he had your video playing at the show haha
I see epoch has a 50Ah trolling motor battery w/ bluetooth on sale for $300. 50Ah is fine for my application, which one would you go for ? epoch 12v 50Ah or litime Group 24 12v 100Ah ? Cheers!
Great info!
Great stuff as always. Question / Content suggestion - for those of us who have older portable solar generators and are looking for additional capacity, can you come up with a way where we could interface a battery such as this one to the existing system? Perhaps where you could plug this battery in the solar generator 12v or 120 AC output to charge, and have a small inverter from this to plug the main system into to charge it. I hate to throw away the older, obsolescent, but still functional system until I've worn it out, which likely won't be for 5-10 years.
I really enjoy your channel. My son & I want to add a PV system to our sailboat. We are undecided about staying with 12v or into 24v someday we’d like change to an electric motor. Any advise?
I bought a two pack of the100ah group 31 for my truck camper to replace the two AGM'S.
Running a 3000/6000 peak inverter.
Bought them for under $500 with a $70 coupon on Amazon.
No complaints so far
same here. After my AGM died / damaged I searched for a high-value 12v 100ah for my camper van and ended up with Li Time. Glad I did.
Great video Will, thank you! I'm so confused about the output voltage. LiTime claims the nominal voltage is 12.8V but it should be higher. Any thoughts on that?
Impressive, and the Bluetooth can save you from a walk in the weather if your batteries are in a separate power-shed.
Thanks
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Cool video will thanks for sharing this six stars brother
Hey Will..question for you please as you're the expert. I currently have a Redodo 200ah 12v and was wondering if there would be any issues if i added the same V and Ah battery in a li time battery in parallel, or should i only use the same mfg? Love your videos and knowledge. Thank you.
For my simple trolling motor I have 12volt lithium battery with bluetooth app. Wouldn't be without it! There, I can always very easily see the SOC, and how long I can drive at different speeds before the battery is empty
Heck yeah friends! 2 videos in 2 days 🎉🎉🎉🎉
No kidding! Seems like Will is out of ideas! Maybe he can start converting cars to electric or something like that with his knowledge. That will be very interesting... Or build up off-road car including the frame from ground up... Or electric ATV or something?
@@empower88 I'd love to see him wire up a system using auto salvage parts. My battery cables came from two crashed audis at the junkyard, I took the battery cables as they are high quality and long because the battery was located in the rear of the car.
I like flush mount terminals like this one has! It makes cable routing and connecting so much easier compared to the to the style terminals that sit in a small recessed area of the case.
Not too worried about the Bluetooth mounting. It is squeezed in place by the foam in a sealed box. Up down back and forth are it's only directions.
Hi Litime mini will always run my toaster up to 122 A. I thought it supposed to cut off at 100 A why is that ? it goes through my 2000 watt pure sine inverter. Shunt says 122 amp
can you do a review on the new renogy 12V 200Ah Pro Deep Cycle Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery w/Bluetooth & Self-heating Function
Thank you Will! There aren't any lithium batteries that can be used in place of an engine starting batteries, correct? A lithium would need a kind of DC-to-DC smart charger in between the alternator, yeah? Thank you!
I’ve followed you for about five years now and my solar works great thanks to your advice. However, my epever Tracer BN series button has just started tripping out on my 12 volt circuit but it doesn’t affect my 3K inverter? I’ve got 2 x panels and 3 batteries all good. Any ideas? And thanks for all the great videos and advice.
I just ordered two litime trolling motor batteries look forward to trying them out on my boat lift and for trolling motor applications
How do we know these ultra cheap batteries really have grade a cells.
Also using an Ionic lithium diesel starter battery in my dump truck
Replaced three lead acid batteries
Starts the truck great charging with the stock alternator
Thanks for your channel
Two videos in a row Will your on fire!
Need your help. Using Victron equipment am I able to use two LiTime 12V 100Ah LiFePO4 batteries with two SOK 12V 100Ah LiFePO4 batteries? Your wiring diagrams are the best.
What are your thoughts for under the hood? I have one of these under the seat of my truck to run my solar set up, but thought maybe I should just replace the 2 under the hood as well. I have been told mixed things about putting these under the hood. You seem to know more than most of us.
Nice job Will
Li Time makes a complete line of products for solar enthusiasts.
Maybe you could do a video on their 3000w Inverter/Charger with a 460ah battery and the 40amp dc to dc charger MPPT solar charger?
id love a video on "solar array grounding". i noticed you havent covered grounding the array in a video, just inverter grounding. im curious if grounding the inverter using ac input also grounds your array thats plugged into the inverter but im doubtful.
WILL!! Try to put it in an ICE vehicle and cold start it. That would be an epic test of over current protection.
Hey Will you need to do a 3000 watt inverter and the solar panel out put from Harbor freight 😊
Hi, thanks for your great videos. I bought 3 LiTime batteries 12v 100A and they say I have to contact them to tell me on which side (if I want to install them on its side) I can correctly do it. Is there really a side that is not recommended to instal them and why? Thanks!
What do you think about lithium /bms disconnect vs diesel heaters? Diesel heaters are not so happy about brutal power loss.
These are great! I'm looking for trolling motor battery with the max capacity that can fit into about 13" x 7". Li Time doesn't have anything between 100ah and 200ah. Any suggestions?
Hey Will -- have you tested out the LITIME 280AH battery yet ? Seriously thinking of getting it but I can't seem to find that one on your videos
@WillProwse Question: I have a stack of 6 EG4 batteries BMS communicating with my growatt 12K inverter. Theoretically, shouldn’t I be able to attach more LiFePo4 batteries in parallel without them being connected to the RS485 comms? I have found a different brand of rack mount batteries at a better price but they lack any wired comms. I understand the accuracy of the SoC may be affected but the internal BMS of the batteries control the flow of current and maintains safe conditions, correct? Buying matching batteries at the same time is always ideal but building on a budget is sometimes necessary. Thanks for your time!
Just this morning I ran across a new to me battery. Called a - PUPVWMHB - that LOOKS to have good specs. I Have bought your recommendations before, and my fellow boat club guys watch what I get. I'm pretty careful to advise on these, so can you do a test on this, or did I miss a previous test?? Thanks, Cal
Hey Will, What's your Thought on mixing different Lithium Battery Brands and Ahs like 100 ah and a 300 ah of diff. Brands in Rv's ?
Thanks Greg
I bought 2 of the mini(s) on around black friday... I wish they had thermal charge protection... ❤😊
It's not really a big deal if you buy a charger with thermal protection.
Nice review. A real world test of the Li-time surge in will it start a car/boat several times. The conventional wisdom has been not to use LFP for such high surge loads, but it seems that the higher capability BMS’s might be able to change this. There is still the alternator charging challenge but that is a solvable problem for those of us with boat/RVs
It does say not to use it for starting purposes in the manual.
@@motofunk1 thanks.
Just wondering if you had two in parallel, could you use them to start a small diesel. I have a 9 hp single cylinder Volvo in my boat and wanted to switch to lifepo4 batteries.
The “don’t use lithium as a starter battery” has always been about temperature. Gets too hot in most engine bays to the point where degradation is significant in short periods of time.
A123 cells, cylindrical and pouch, have been used by some car manufacturers. You don’t need something with such crazy high C rate though. Your average prismatic cell can burst 3C-5C for a few seconds.
Hey, Will! Any idea what happen to Li Time 400 and 460 batteries? I don't see them on Amazon or on their website. Just thought you might have info on this.
Thanks.
What about Eco worthy lifepo batteries?
Do you ever try them? I been running then on my home and been very happy , they run my home 95% with the rest of the solar system.
🤷Just curious, have you ever tried aerosol component chiller to test low temp cutoff so you wouldn’t need to physically remove the temp sensor? Great channel!
Will's method gives a known temperature which is very important as charging below 0C/32F will destroy a LiFePo4 battery. Aerosol chill temps vary.
Hi Will. I have a question please. I have one Ampertime basic battery and two Li-time mini batteries (not the low temp protection one you review), all with 100A 12V ratings. I would like to connect them in parallel, but the manufacturer advises against it due to differences in BMS and battery cells between the two types. What do you think?
Can this battery power a small microwave and or a coffee maker? Thanks.
what voltage do you charge these batteries at? is it the 14.6 normally recommended for lithium or is it more inline with a lead acid charge voltage? IE are they drop in replacement or do you need to adjust your converter voltage, etc?
And do you charge them at a fixed voltage or the converters '4(or 3) stage' mode? my converter has a switch, and a voltage adjuster so you can set your output, etc. My understanding is for LI you set it to 14.6 (or whatever your battery pack manual states) and set to fixed voltage, but it hasn't been explicitly said anywhere that I can find anyway
Can you do a review on eco worthy 12 volt 150ah and the 48 volt 50ah nobody has done a teardown
Hey Will, I developed Erythromelalgia and found your old channel, are you still dealing with it? any tips I'd appreciate it dude!
Can you make a video on the best way to charge a lithium battery solar setup with a car alternator?
Would you use a battery like this on a small boat? My main fear with the lithium batteries is a fire/explosion with water exposure. Would you be concerned about this? Are some brands safer (in this regard) than others? Thank you
Awesome... I understood like 10% of what you said.
I would love to see you take apart a bunch of 150Ah batteries for those of use that are limited to a group 31 space and are trying to maximize our usable battery capacity. So far I'm not finding many of the manufacturers that you even marginally recommend making them, but their size and capacity really interests me. It seems to me if a group 24 100Ah interests people a group 31 150Ah would appeal to an even larger audience...
I will and others. I bought a litime trolling battery for a canoe setup. Do you know if a reliable and inexpensive lithium ion battery charger? just one that plugs into an ac outlet. Thank you!
What would be best for fish finders? Is that just a deep cycle battery still?
Can these be mounted under my camper van without heating pads? Current setup is AGM batteries.
I was trying to place an order through your link in the page, are these batteries coming directly from China? If so how long does it typically take to get them? I have a charge on my card from China, that was held by my credit Union from china for these batteries. There is no US distributor?
do they have a battery that can be used in a boat or car hooked up to alternator or solar panel in boat to keep it charged?
Would you suggest another solution to monitor the battery if it doesn't have a Bluetooth module? Something that could display state of charge, voltage for example?
Yes a victron shunt
Which LiTime would you recommend for my Casita travel trailer? Thx
Well done..........
could you make a video on the best battries, best solar panels, out there 2024. thanks
Hello, I purchased the Mobile book, now the question, what is the max Watts I can produce for a mobile system and still run the campers 12 volt system? I am versed in electronics and avionics, but I'm not sure of the MPPT I will need and running 1680 watts @ 30 amps.
I have a guest charger lead acid/gel. It charges to 14.6 I think. Will this charge lithium batteries?
Is there any difference between the trolling and standard with Bluetooth? Are the internal cells the same? I know with AGM and flooded they are not
I’ve installed 2 group 24 batteries to replace my LED Acid on my 28ft RV. I fully charged them and tried using them. One of the two batteries will not show discharge and remains in standby according to the APP when 110 is disconnected. I’ve purchased a 3rd believing the battery BMS is bad but it’s still performing the same. Any suggestions as to what’s causing this?
I got 2 chins batteries that have all these features and they also have the heating function. The new chins are nice! I think it's the same company because everything looks exactly the same
Qestion, what Lithium battery charger do you recommend for the Li Time 12.8 100Ah group 24 battery?
Hi Will, Wanted to ask you a question in reference to Lifepo chargers. I have an opportunity to buy a 15kw lifepo4 battery pack, I need to know what charger I need to have to balance the 3.2v 280ah batteries before putting together and I would like a charger that could maintain the whole battery pack as I will not be installing the pack for a month or so.
Yes akb👍⚡🔋
Hi Will, I have a couple of different Lithium batteries my trolling motors on my fishing kayaks. I have a 100aH Battle Born Battery and I also have 2 Li Time 50aH batteries. My Battle Born battery came as a package with the Victron Blue Smart IP65 Charger 12/15 120V NEMA 5-15; Is there any reason I could not use this charger to charge my Li Time batteries or any other marine Lithium batteries for that matter? Is there any reason one would be required to buy the charger sold specifically by the company that made the battery? Li Time sells there own chargers but I did not want to have to buy another charger since I already had the Victron charger. Hope to hear from you. Thanks.
New here to the solar game , just trying to absorb as much as I can about lithium and lead acid batteries and solar controller and inverter I was told pure sine wave is the way to go for running my Xbox and monitors.
Victron Multi Plus anything is KING
Do you have affiliate links for Canada?
@2:43 the 291 A inrush is not almost the max of the Inverter (300 A *rated*). That is that inverter's max for the test condition (temperature, current slew rate, etc.). 3% low. I would expect an unpublished spec of +/- 5 to even 15% for a decent quality inverter. There is a tolerance at round that 300 A, an it is the 'max' so its nice that it tripped before it.
I’m struggling with my 24v system. I have two charge controllers for each solar array. It’s been working fine up until the other day, now the Bank one controller stays in Overcharge mode while the other Bank controller charges normally. I’m stumped!!
For your information: it donst realy need your location but the battery is using Bluetooth low energy, that was invented for indoor positioning - this is why the permission for BLE on android is called location pernission :D
Oh, that is useful to know. I wondered about that location permission :)
Can you wire the 460ah batteries in series for 24v?
Is that a custom BMS or something off-the-shelf?
Is there anything else required to put 4 of these in series to make a 48 v battery bank?