The majority of the movie is actually a trauma-induced hallucination, as in reality the princess shattered her spine and legs when she hit the bottom of the pit. The dragon isnt real, and she just slowly succumbs to her wounds as she dreams of getting her revenge on the deranged cult who threw her down there.
How do you mean in some areas? All the tabloids thrive off gold diggers spreading their legs for sugar daddies. It´s not even deemed immoral anymore. :)
My wife and I watched this, and when the movie was over I told her that I understood why these girls were able to be thrown from 10 stories up and not immediately become paraplegics...it's so that by time you get to the end of the movie and this little girl beats up a dragon in melee combat you will have stopped caring about anything happening in the movie long ago.
The Captain Marvel effect in full swing, really “She can beat up anyone at anytime, with no effort!” Then…why do we care about her struggles as a hero…? “Well cos…ya see, the thing is….hmm…umm…she’s a WOMAN” Oh. That it? K.
beating a dragon a melee can be a pretty epic scene. took my character 2 years of progression to be able to do that with rules and dice rolls,, plus the dm was pretty good at it back then. No, you can totally do it, it just needs some effort behind it. Sh|t like actual writing, maybe some directorial artistry, or even some basic acting would help.
I'm 42. I've been watching schlocky B action movies since the 80's where a hot babe beats up to 20 or 30 guys and makes one liners about how men are useless. It was a genre of exploitation all throughout the 80's and 90's. Now I'm somehow retroactively labeled woke by a new group of kids online who don't know the history of nerd culture or cinema. It's weird.
So additional comment : Er... the writer does realise how immorally wrong that ending is Right? Burning down an entire castle/town full of possible innocent servants, workers, guardsman and so on who possibly had nothing to do with any of it. Very unlikely that everyone knew about the sacrificing of princesses to a dragon else it would spread like wildfire in rumours to other countries and towns and so on. Yeah sure slaying the person who wronged you is often a moral neutral or good (depending on context) as you're killing a killer or someone who has done evil. But in this tale she is still leaving alive a human eating dragon who has happily partaking in doing so. You are going to be responsible if it kills someone again. Hell it was killing innocent women and if it has intelligence then it would be aware of that so it was happily devouring innocent bystanders. So who is the hero again?
Nah, they were probably, Nazis, toxic men and anyone who have a problem with girlboss movies written by people who isn't very smart. So they deserved it of course, maybe some of them were gamers too.
We don't actually see the dragon eat anyone though. The kingdom thinks she does, but uh, all the princess' corpses are in one piece, albeit in a very VERY charred piece but yeah. Towards the end, I was even wondering if she ate anything or what did she eat.Sure she almost ate Eloise, or at least opened her mouth when she was dangling in the crystal tunnel but....the eating didn't happen. Just a whole lot of slicing, squelching and charring as I put it three quarters through the movie when I stopped caring.
They were given a choice to run. And they've been using the wealth out of Generations of lies. They all deserve it in a sense of revenge. Would be easier of you fucking chose to consume the actual media instead of going to the internet for woke vs woke reviews. Stupid fucks like you disgust me.
"taking the story of a man, swapping the genders, and then swapping the heroes for villains..." That's the rough draft of Batwoman... If you want a better movie starring a damsel named Elle? Try Ella Enchanted... she actually does manage to save herself.
Another thing about rejecting the damsel in distress trope is that plenty of woman enjoy it on most occasions, myself included. The lady's in danger? Her man's coming to save her while looking badass?? They're going to have an emotional moment when reuniting??!? Fucking love it A+ no changes needed thanks.
Yeah…I’d rather see those types of stories myself. I don’t have a problem with strong, independent woman saves herself and everyone else movies either. I just get annoyed that it seems as if we are not allowed to have “man saves woman” stories at all anymore. When literally every movie/show coming out features an overpowered woman who “don’t need no man”, it just gets boring. Where are the movies for those of us women who enjoy the damsel in distress trope? At least I have old movies I can watch, I suppose.
As a man, I can understand how the damsel trope may have become annoying but it can evolve the right way... But sadly it seems writers who write modern female characters project some kind of power fantasy where they are the one kill Darth Vader or slay the dragon without understanding the origin of the trope, chivalry, honor etcetera. So we can't just have a lady suddenly be able to wield a heavy sword and kill a beast that has burned dozens of men LITERALLY in one foul swoop. There are ways for her to be feminine, graceful, elegant... Hell she can even help save the prince trying to save her... Establish that she has skills like archery, advanced horseback riding, making small, effective traps for trapping rodents, birds and later builds a simple trap to kill the dragon while using herself as live bait...
Sure, but what's wrong with actually trying something different? So this movie won't give you that trope you are looking for and that must be disappointing but the film itself is not that bad, so women and girls who don't want every single move have a prince rescue the princess can enjoy it for what it is.
Knight in shining armour saving the princess to have a romantic moment upon rescue, then classical or happy music plays in the back to increase the beauty of the scene is SSS tier
Great critique of this tired trope. I have a statue of St. George slaying a dragon on my bookshelf to remind me that the only stories that will endure are ones that uphold true archetypal values. I look at it often while writing fantasy novels. Just got a novel accepted by a traditional publisher recently. Trying to do my part to revitalize good stories in this beauty-depraved world!
Heck yeah there is! It's actually a science-fantasy novel, with elements of both science-fiction and fantasy (due to different cultures advancing at different paces due to the influence of dark magic on human knowledge in some regions, and the lack-there-of in other regions). I realize I'm no Tolkien or Rothfuss. I simply want to add a drop in the bucket of good stories that have inspired me. My writings are simply odes to the greats!
@@JonathanTorres-vr1sg Rothfuss didn´t finish his trilogy did he - I read the first two books this year, actually. Who knows, maybe you´re the next big thing? :) Hmm, a sci-fi and fantasy blend is my fav one - for example, The Blue Adept was one of my most fav books growing up. :)
I have no issue with women kicking ass in movies. Xena Warrior Princess, Blue Eyed Samurai, and Eowyn from LOTR did it right. The thing they established is that these women became badass after a LIFETIME of training and combat. Their power and fighting strength was earned just as we would want from any male hero. And even then, both female heroes use their cunning and skill to overpower larger, stronger opponents rather than dealing out haymakers like Mike Tyson And then stories like Damsel or Star Wars come along and just go “she’s the strongest and bestestest BECAUSE SHES A WOMAN, and that’s good enough!” And they’re just flabbergasted, BAMBOOZLED I say, when we say no, it’s not.
My answer to the challenge of 'jut not liking strong, female characters is just two words - Kill. Bill. Not just a movie with a female lead rather than a male lead. It would be a fundamentally different story, which just wouldn't have had the same impact with a male protagonist
@@mikeydflyingtoasterKill Bill would have been better with a male lead... said no dude ever. Also they ignore the plethora of male -lead films that men also do not like. Critics didn't make excuses for Morbius or blame men for not supporting it. It's all dumb.
She didn’t become the strongest because she’s a woman, though. She became strong because she realized that she was deceived, she had no way out, and that she had people(her family) who she cared about who needed help too. Reminds you this is supposed to be a fairytale with a twist. I don’t recall learning the backstory of any of the Prince charmings who saved the day. So remind me why it’s a problem now?
Gold is no reason to marry? You see how many young women are married to sleezy oiled up old men because they have a yacht. The movie wants you to think one way while you already know it doesn't work like that. Its not even a subtle/clever line that can be interpreted in many different ways.
You sound so stupid that is making the movie sound smart. Yes, there are people who marry for that reason, but it's their choice, besides, no one's forcing them. Besides, no one sees these people as being righteous, and the idea of the movie is to show what the "right reason" to marry would be: she falls in love with the boy, and he has the same dreams as her, meaning, if they were to actually be together, one could help the other pursue their dreams
The girl boss trend with Hollywood is really undoing all the hard work that many amazing creators have put forward in actually uplifting and celebrating women heroes. Tolkien has Galadriel as one of the strongest elves in middle earth along with Eowyn and so on. CS Lewis has four children, two brothers and two sister becoming kings and queens of a fantasy world. Hollywood seems to think that they're undoing some great wrong but making women strong or powerful has never been a problem in fiction even since ancient times. Hollywood if you want a woman who has more masculine traits then the character type you're looking for exists. It's called the Tomboy, ya know the kind of woman who is into what men find fun but doesn't hate men for no reason. Girl boss trend at this point is just a cardboard cut out of "I don't need no man". That's as deep as we get with most of them. Hollywood should be looking at characters like Revy (Black Lagoon) or Ryuko (Kill la Kill). Well tbh any anime character written in the last few decades will put most of current day Hollywood character writing to shame.
Poor examples, highly sexualised women with depth is for appealing to men. Better examples would be Ellen Ripley, Sarah Conner, characters that can still be feminine but are capable and strong.
hollywood doesn't care about empowering women or building on the efforts of other people to uplift women. they see how feminism is actually a big deal now and want to jump in for easy money
I think you, as well as this video are off target with this one. The protagonist wasn't portrayed in the best way for sure, but it's no where near to being the oh "girl boss" bad. She had plenty of "journey" to go through till the end, and for sure the movie isn't perfect but it's got nothing to do with the female protagonist. It was a well made movie that could have been better if they gave her more background and more character but it's good enough and nowhere near as bad as this video and people make it out to be. She wasn't Rey, she wasn't a mary sue. Sure you can all shit on whatever you want, but there is no reason for girls and women to not love this film for what it is. Oh no a princess is going against a dragon instead of a prince? oh get off it. I expect it to be a disaster but it was perfectly fine for what it was going for.
@@scottcheg9 if you think revy and ryouko Chan are bad cause of them looking nice then you are even more shallow, both are well written and cool characters that make you understand and root for
I did not see a Girl Boss in this entire movie. Unless you want to say the Robin Wright Red Queen (of Gold) is. These Crazy people of Aurea created a damn Religion to the Dragon that played with its victims. When the spirit of Victoria makes it to the top and has the wherewithal to draw "It is not safe". Tells you El is not going to survive. She escapes only by unlucky distraction of the guide. What they did to Floria was "Cold Blooded". Truthfully I know plenty of Real Women who've gone Scorched earth with Revenge on people who have done them wrong or to protect their family. Some even are the Red Queen killing their families.You see it daily on network news.
Ok, this movies started off good but left me with more questions than answers... 1.- If supposedly the dragon kept to herself and it was the humans that started the violence... why would they go into the dragons lair in the first place if it was not a threath? And why of all the people the king had to be there? Why not send dragon slayers or offer a reward? 2.- According to other websites they had to offer 3 girl every 10 years (for 300 years!!!) Did they have to marry the prince or king several times every 10 years? did no one notice the missing or disappearance of princesses over the years? 3.- Of all the items she removed from that clunky ass dress... why on earth she kept the damn corset??!! 4.- If the slugs were magical that could cure anything... why not use them on her father?? 6.- Did she really just touch her father sword and suddenly knew how to use it?? is she a Disney-Jedi?? 7.- How does a dragon get burnt by it's own fire?? (all of my D&D freak friends lost their sh*t on this one) 🤣🤣 8.- At the end the dragon and Elodie killed more people than the royal family!! she practically turns into Dracarys levels of evil!! 9.- The real hero of the story in her makeup!! I don't know how this movie was supposed to be feminist when they portrayed women as evil, cruel, dumb, vain and racists!!
i only had 3 question when i was watching this.... and those wer: "what the fck am i watching?" "what the hell is wrong with people who make movies like this?" and "how the hell does anyone find this entertaining?"
I don't qet why they don't have a better solution to their sacrifice dilemma. Especially since they know about the blood fusing thing... Draw names from a hat. Offer low income families wealth in exchange for their daughters. Kidnap homeless women off the streets. Slaves surely exist, and I'd wager a few of them are women. I just don't get how they settled on, wedding the prince to a princess, and then sacrifice her to the dragon.
@@bribro23 But the majority of the audience still enjoy typical gender roles. Not everyone is non binary. Some people don’t want to watch uncredible girl bosses. Some want to see a bloke rescue a girl. TV and film is just boring nowadays. Maybe I’m old fashioned, but I think I’ll just stick to the classics. Thing is I loved Charmed, Xena and Buffy growing up, because thier strength was credibly written. These films are not - and that’s the problem. It makes no sense.
@@PipJim80You get what is likely behind it. Too many people keep resorting to phrases like, "cash grab", which actually are completely illogical given the current financial results of this phenomonon. It is s-u-b version
Because it's not. It's still the norm in society and media. Some people see something different becoming more visible in any way and assume that the majority has flipped. It's a persecution complex.
The "damsel in distress" trope is legitimately meant to instill in men that a heroic man endeavors to save and protect a woman/women. The kind of man who would put his life second to the well-being of the woman he loves. How is that an anti-feminist message? Now they could argue that the woman is perceived as the reward for his adventurous exploits but almost all of these stories make it clear that the woman in question is also seeking the affection of said man. That said, I can see how being represented as needing to be saved all the time might be exhausting but in the words of Captain Marvel "It wasn't made for you!"
To be fair, you can easily flip that argument around right? This wasn't made for you. I think most people would rather we didn't get the same story over and over again... but that's exactly what's happening with all these 'strong independent woman' stories.
@@ellencoleman4604 The problem with the "this movie wasn't made for you" argument is that it's never established who the movie is for, and if they're a significant enough demographic that it's profitable enough to justify making movies for them.
@ellencoleman4604 the argument *has* very often been flipped around to counter criticism of films, franchises and genres men enjoy that have been "subverted" for audiences that don't actually support those things. That was my sorta my point.
I won't even comment on the film, but using actresses with smartphone faces™ for medieval settings ... why do they still do it?! It's giving Halloween costume, come on...
Yet another example of a girlboss fantasy making for a much more compelling villain story than hero A maden sacrificed to a dragon but befriended it because they share pain. She turns its flame to those who scorned her. But it doesn't end with them. All are guilty as they turned a blind eye to her suffering. Any who dont grovle to her are burned or fed to the dragon
Yep. I really liked this movie. I don't see Elodie being displayed as an entirely morally good person with that ending, which is why the movie works for me. Also found it pretty interesting (her being more morally gray than similar movies would've done it). And sure, while it comes from the "strong woman need no man"-trope, I still also enjoyed they didn't go for the super-overused "... and then she married the prince and they lived happily ever after"-cliché.
Unfortunately this movie is actually perfectly fine as a film about a woman vs dragon and people like Disparu who are desperate to milk content are making it far worse than it is. It's got writing issues but nothing about the protagonist being a woman is the problem in this film. And so people will avoid it because these youtubers can't find a better target for a movie about "the message"
@@crawlingboy Just as you are trashing it like there is no tomorrow? No, you are not, and I'm not defending it with my life. Don't you think that's going overboard? I'm sharing my view on it, maybe a few posts more than usual because I watched this video before the movie and expected a "disaster". It ain't fair to the movie is my opinion but to each their own. Why do I have to be the only one to watch it to "defend" it? It's not a great movie, it's just far from this criticism. Again, it's got some cringe but nowhere near to the extent you see on these posts. It's like a cult following around here, and I am one of the big critics of all this. You just have to call it as it is. TH-camrs don't always do that because it's not in their interest BUT that doesn't mean he didn't think exactly what he said.
The sequel to Damsel will be called, "The Spinster Queen." A tale about how a powerful man hating woman refused to get married and now her barons are keyed up to turn her faerie kingdom into a brutal war zone as they compete for the throne. Women are maligned. Children starve. Men die. It will be a tragic King Learesque cautionary fable for end stage feminism.
What's with millie bobby brown and starring in movies injecting feminism in specific stories? Im still baffled by thought process behind "lets do sherlock holmes but about his sister and feminism"
That was a book before it was a series. Also there have been Sherlock adaptations were Watson was a woman. And why are woman led stories are a problem?
Christ I am so sick of the Damsel saves herself. They were so mad about the Damsel in distress trope that they made their own trope that is far more annoying. It has gotten to the point that whenever I see a princess get kidnapped these days I just roll my eyes "She's going to save herself." Before I even finish that sentence she is already out of the tower. It is so damn predictable. And what really annoys me is you can feel the writer looking at you and winking saying "Look, we subverted the trope, aren't I clever!". Like they are the first ones to do it when this shit has been going on for at least the last 20 years if not more. It's not new, it's not cute, it was old 5 years ago, and is now a dried corpse. Stop it.
Nobady was mad about Damsel in distress trope. People were just taird of it being repeted the same way over and over agein, even where it did not make sense. There are veary little tropes that are bad in the core. It's up to the writing.
I'm a huge TV and Movie enthusiast, i don't watch many post 2016 anymore because they do this shit all the time. Instead of writing a character who has flaws to overcome, let's say Parents were killed or family were killed at a young age, emotional scarring at a young age from small issues to the big ones that aren't kid friendly, to the villain interacting with said character to try to turn them evil, on their side, or the character saw what the villain did and devoting themselves to seek revenge and obviously along the way realized that while revenge is a huge factor to drive us forward, it blinds us and they must learn to control ones emotions along the way. hell even at the end forgiving the villain, walking away and being forced to take their life which saddens and hurts us the viewers because we know its not what the main character truly wanted in the end. these are just some of the driving factors off the top of my head but it's always Woman Stronk, Man stupid and i mean they make the men absolutely useless only there to hold the precious untouchable main up high so we can see just how flawless they are. it's boring no one on planet earth alive right now is flawless. we see a mouse in science class in a container, you name him George, the next 5 years of Highschool the whole school knows about George, people love George, this mouse is a champ and we love to feed it and take care of it and then one day at assembly they announce George passed away. it hurts, hurts some a lot more who really spent time with him. This is who we are as humans we can connect with anything, your little sister gives you a rock and names it after you because she loves you and you look down into her little eyes and she is SO happy to be giving you this gift, you accept it and keep it. you could throw is away and maybe never hear about it again but just in case she asks where your pet rock you keep it. We do this because of our emotions and our easy attachment to things. That's all writers need to do. Stop the diversity hires who CANT fucking act and write a coherent story with flaws and goals and ambition and drive, failures,. lessons. wisdome learned. fucking ANYTHING but GirlBossing so close to the son the wings melt off and when she lands from 2 thousand miles she turns to the man and blames him for a comment in act 1 that no one fucking remembers or cares about. i watch movies now and i can't even remember names im not invested. if im not invested i wont enjoy it and your movie sucks. obviously taste is different for all but majority of people if they cant see themselves in the hero or understand their motives they wont care. that's why i stick to my old TV shows. Scrubs, House M.D, Psych, Smallville, Community and Chuck. i've watched them all countless times and they never cease to entertain me and hurt me with scenes. Anyway. rant over if anyone fully read all this. Thanks lol
Well in a lot of before 2016 movies the oposit is true. In a lot of those movies the guy is perfect and the woman doasn't have a personality beyond loving him, and is only there to be his love intrest. Also shows like Arcane exist.
They make a big deal about MBB chopping wood and goving it to the poor- but shes chopping wood out in the middle of nowhere with no obe else around- so no teams of people bringing ligs in to be split, so one person can only do maybe one tree in a days work. She returns on hosebavk with only a pack on her back tgat can maybe carry 10 pieces of wood- maybe enough for a few hours of fire for one family- basically a big waste of time when she couldve used her position of authority to rally a team of workers to cut and transport enough wood for the whole town for a few days in the same smou t of time- but yhst wouldnt virtue signal hard enough and would imply she needs help from (cough) men.
"Your Highness" would be far more entertaining. Remember when damsels got themselves out of trouble with their charm, wits and were agile like cats? But sure if you want a 5"4 girl dual wielding zweihanders that's cool too 😜.
I've watched the 40 sec video of Sarah Connor doing chin ups in Terminator . She would have a chance against this dragon, but not this joke . I miss old movies , where characters made sense and were written by actual team of TALENTED writers.
Yea when she started monologuing in the beginning, anybody could've seen the classic, "this is NOT one of those stories" coming at the end of it. My daughter loved Frozen when it came out. Now she hates her sister and is completely focused on the boy across the street 👀
My mom loved the movie (she's pro women mind you) she was explaining it I was looking at my dad he was shaking his head.After she done explained it I poked so many holes like how stupid can the Dragon that lived so many decades be so stupid and trust humans that killed her children.
Dragon: You killed my children. King: lets make a deal, you let me go and i send you 1 princess a year that has nothing to do with my kingdom, so it is not a punishment for my kingdom. Surely you can life with 1 body a year that tastes like any other body albeit it would be much easyer and more punishing for the kingdom when you would eat me, destroy my castel and then turn the kingdom in a happy hunting ground. Dragon: Deal.
There is a scene when Millie shows her hand to the dragon how the the people made her royalty which then the dragon realized she’s not one of these royalty people
@@FemmeaestheticWhich is dumb, cause that means the dragon never noticed that every girl had a cut in their hands. Also, how does she still have a cut in her hand by the end, when she has been healing her wounds with the glowing slugs? Did she leave that wound for sentimental reasons?
I mean its a dragon. It probably noticed the first one since that was the first, and it could have been cautious that that princess had a type of poison on her person or something, but after that, it probably stopped looking so deeply into the princesses and just went straight to roast town@@cristela4034
If they would have just made the men not spineless simps, it would have been fantastic. Her father not knowing the truth and trying to save her after accidentally finding out, the prince having second thoughts and trying to save her (and failing), etc. I enjoyed it, but the over-girl-bossing of EVERY character was lame.
Yaaay, a new Jonny Law video! And showcasing some mad artistic skillz, judging by your new title sequence. I think Hollywood, Netflix et al need to read the memo regarding 'badass girlbosses': if you have to make all the men surrounding said girlboss weak, dumb and/or evil for her to effectively girlboss... she aint actually much of a girlboss. Let there be POSITIVE male characters in there as well, guys. Don't think of it as 'competition,' think of it as 'collaboration.' Friendship and cooperation are good things.
These adaptations are always good for a laugh, thanks for putting the work for our entertainment. Love the intro mate, color scheme is on point and feels calming with that song. (edit: Apparently I missed the intro in the other recent upload. My bad, still love it though.)
I was lauging most at scene where heroine is picking up her father's sword and using it like battle hardened soldier and professional while in reality she never used one before at all.
You are so spot on with this, as usual. These kind of shows are so blindingly dull, predictable, and done to death. It's mad how the creators still think they are so cutting edge and original. It's laughable. You're absolutely right, if they made a film of the classic story, then that really would be something new.
It's a movie, this one, not a show. And if you watch it you'd notice there is almost no cringe when it comes to the protagonist being a woman vs dragon, it's more about the writing itself, and you'd kind get a feeling some of these youtubers are milking content almost desperately. Maybe it means we are at the end of "the message" and woke era if they can't find a better movie to trash
@@MrTbob418 While you're policing terminology you might want to keep in mind that this is what used to be called a "picture show". Dated, but still ...
@@MrTbob418 My point is that if you insist on making some distinction between the words "movie" and "show" you very likely don't have much of a grasp on the meanings of both terms. Education matters.
@@fredhughes4115 @fredhughes4115 well your point is appreciated but misguided for reasons i mentioned before. It was just to show a person prolly didn't watch the media. Why you are complicating it is your own issue. I know the difference and it doesn't matter to me if some random person online questions it, especially in this context. There is a difference if you are wondering.
My problem with those boss girl knight movies is that they act like modern day and not like an actual dark ages people. On that time a girl wouldn't speak back to her father unless she was allowed to.
Also tell me why she falls down long distances and doesn’t break a bone, and the only substantial injury she got was healed within like, 10 minutes?? I tried watching it on my own but couldn’t make it all the way through 😔
The initial fall when she's tossed in is broken by the vines and the moss. When she falls down a cavern, the incline is not that steep and people lived through worse and she gets cuts and bruises. All the injuries that she gets including scrapes and dragon flame burns are healed by magical leeches that she finds, because it's a fantasy movie. Also her sister that gets thrown in later actually breaks her leg.
The fact they even made this movie is stupid. The duties of princesses and princes are to marry and bring benefits to the family and their people. Its not a matter of liking the ones their marrying, whether the arranged marry couple loves each other or not is of no concern for the family during the medieval period. Either you get married off or you pick a trade, the fact these idiots that wrote the movie cant even take a moment to search up arranged marriage in medieval period and politics of medieval period. Throw away the dragon plot point. And we keep this strictly humans involved only and no dragon. The fact the girl says "I dont wanna marry for that reason" If I was the father I wouldve been like "oh? So you'd rather our people starve? And grow poor?"
I have always thought that the Clash of the Titans (2010) remake was the perfect way to use a STRONG woman. In this case--Io--where we see that she is strong this is demonstrated best in the battle with the scorpions. During me fight, we see Io dashing about trying to stay away from the danger, BUT in one crucial scene, Perseus is under attack and it looks like he might be killed when suddenly in a shot that lasts longer than 3 seconds we see Io on top of a boulder with a sling (a proper female weapon) that she used to cut off the stinger. After that, Perseus actually HEAVES her through a doorway saving her. For the rest of the move she is lady-like and soft (except for the scene on the Styx ferry where she attempts to make him aware of how dangerous facing Medusa would be.)
They can't damage that film. In fact, I think with each new low that they attain, they are finding out just how little anybody really remembers their offerings.
"This actor who played this role in this movie has also played another role in another movie, they're clearly trying to devalue that other movie." Really?
I think her being into mazes is correlated to when she’s in the cave and sees a map? And she’s all like “we got this way then that way” like a child at a restaurant with kids menus you can color on
@@randomperson-up5vt Victoria ran back to finish the map. Then went to the crystals, onpy to find out she couldn't get down from the mountain and it wasn't safe. She died after writing "not safe"
So the king risk his own life instead of sending peasents to slay the dragon. He discovers 3 dragon baby's and kills them because they're dragons whole grow up to attack humans. The king then pleads for his life and makes a deal with said dragon to sacrifice his own daughters. Yet they try to paint him as a monster and not the tragic hero that he is.
Folklore is myth. Mythology is powerful because it wraps humanity into identifiable roles and actions. Stray from that, and mythology loses its power. Attempt to flip it 180°, and it becomes impotent and unidentifiable. It would be as if a mythology were to arrange a story where Stoke City were to win the FA Cup using the women’s team…
@arctain1 That's.. TTheir entire purpose for doing it. They WANT to take away the power of mythology, they WANT to destroy cultural icons, because it's the first step towards destabilizing a population. Take away anything they can rally behind, and they'll be weaker and easier to conquer.
Don´t give them ideas!! :)) Besides, they ARE trying to build their own mythology. They have to, since their attempt to bring back slavery system or the feudal castes at least, that needs some spiritual mumbo jumbo, trust me. :)
@@harbl99 I thought it was perfectly fine. She gave people a chance to run so f the rest. The dragon is the villain, and the protagonist is not exactly much of a hero after that but does she need to be?
Hells, they even drew a direct parallel between her, her dad that sold her and the king that killed baby dragons. When she stuck her sword in the ground. And just like them she feeds into the circle of violence.
Platforms that have content you can CHOOSE WHAT TO VIEW OR NOT and has PARENTAL CONTROL, unlike live tv. So don't be lazy, take advantage of technology, and do your part by supervising.
The movie doesn't preach women empowerment and is actually quite good, I'd definitely let my kids watch it if they were of enough age. Some of these vidoes are overexaggerating the female protagonist "problem" when they should focus on the writing issue. I really feel like they are trying to milk content with this one. There was very little cringe in the way of "im a girl boss"
9:54 how is she even climbing up with such a smooth rock and without any foothold? are we supposed to believe she's lifting herself with the sheer power of her arms? I cannot take this very seriously even if it's a fantasy story. The basic laws of reality should still apply
Wrote my masterthesis about this motive and there are actually a few stories about female dragonslayers. I really would like to see one of them on my screen, simply because they past the test of time while this "fairytale" will be forgotten soon.
Just stumbled across this video. Saw folklore and had to click. I didn't even realize what story this was butchering. Mind you, I hadn't planned on watching it to begin with. I appreciate you explaining just what story elements guys really connect with. It hilights what they're tossing to the side. Good review, I'll have to check out more of your stuff.
millie's character was SO obnoxious. her attitude when she meets the prince, doesn't make sense. and i get WHY she is shown the be a girlboss so early on, bc that makes us think, she can survive the dragon later on... cause she's not like the other girls she's a tough cool girl 😏 But just because it is a survival story, doesn't mean she has to be less feminine. in fact the story would be more impactful if she was shown to be more "weak". there is no way SHE would survive.... that sets the stakes extra high. i don't mind the arc of the dragon being fooled by the royals and millie befriends it.. it could still work... AND i actually loved how the dragon looked! really a cool beautiful but terrifying dragon. ..... anyways.. it is the convenient small things that are annoying. her SCREAMING as she was burnt, would make the dragon know EXACTLY where she was... yet it doesn't.... she meets magical glowing snails that can help her see AND heal her wounds. how convenient😏 then the dragon finally destroys the entire city.... cool cool. WHY would millie be ok with that, knowing where she came from? and her walking like a wounded bad@ss in the end... they really thought she was serving... lol but again... a more wounded and barely surviving girl would have been cooler.. kind of like the ending of ready or not. it was cool enough that she survived she didn't need this girlboss strut.
Those glowing bugs were ripped off from Pitch Black. :D They don´t have any magical powers in that movie, they just glow and repel the dangerous carnivorous alien creatures who are hypersensitive to the light.
I've yet to see Millie Brown in something where she's actually good. 'cause the only reason she was passable in season 1 of Stranger Things is because she didn't talk.
I mean, after the first meeting, the prince was probably like... "well, that felt good." After chucking into the pit. "I thought I would feel absolutely awful, lying to and then murdering some poor girl, but you know what? I'm feeling okay! She really was the *worst*! Now she's that poor dragon's problem."
As an Australia i am angered by your Dire Straits Joke and using Walk Of Life as the punch line. Twisting by the Pool and Walk of Life were the worst and we know he did it for radio plays but man should busted out Lady writer, Sultans of Swings or Heavy Fuel and the rest of the video should just be Mark Knofler Shredddding his Fender. WEW
"The damsel in distress archetype contains all of the elements that men find important in life" - This is exactly why we are not allowed to have it, Jonny. Men, bad.
The interaction between the Prince and Elle epitomised the problem. She talks to him in a completely disparaging fashion and he just kisses her ass, telling her that she’s amazing.
The story itself is great! The movie interpretation, though, was a bit ham-handed and over-acted for the most part. And she still ended up almost nekkid by the end, so... pretty weird take, Netflix. Edited to add that both of the villains in this story were female (queen and dragon). I never got the sense that it was a battle of the sexes or some attempt to usurp "masculine" power.
Obviously a previous damsel escaped via that route then came all the way back to draw the map for those that followed, but for some reason neglected to put on the map that you couldn't actually escape that way. Whoops.
@@drinkxyzOf course not, you know why? So she climbed up and saw the sun. Then she returned back to the safe cave and drew the route (bc she's so kind) and then climbed back up and then realised that it is no viable escape route but then got interrupted and burned by the dragon. Absolutely understandable behaviour
Actually her drawing those mazes do actually come in later because she's looking at the maze on the wall and figuring it out so how she can get out of the cave where the dragon is in. So yeah her drawing and understanding mazes does actually come into play later on if you actually watch the movie
but drawing an atomically correct heart would be impressive! 😅 could've been the beginning of her Breaking bad journey, where she would have to sell drugs in order to save her people from starvation. Maybe I'd watch that.
I know feminists who take issue with the Girl Boss trope as well. They have no issue with strong female leads, but in the Girl Boss trope the character is basically a female man. So a woman who is strong in all the same ways as a man, but without any femininity at all. These particular feminists that strong female leads should be strong, but in a way which is distinctly feminine. And they should have flaws, because it’s patronising and robs women of their agency to depict them as perfect. Personally I don’t mind the occasional Girl Boss character, as some women are actually like that. But it gets too much if there’s one in virtually every movie. Women deserve better representation and film goers in general deserve better characters.
Ah, but don't you see? With the kingdom destroyed, all those starving villagers can now go ahead and redistribute all those crops and livestock that the evil rich no longer need, to themselves. So progressive.
This guy clearly missed the point on his head. Meghan Markel not allowed to bring anyone but her biological mother to her own wedding. Her father who loving raised her not allowed to walk her down the isle or attend the ceremony only to have the dragon breath prince Charles take over those duties
Again the same old evil men and perfect angel women narrative. It has become highly annoying and tiresome to watch the same agenda movies over and over. Awful story, awful acting, messy screenplay, mind numbingly dumb plot points, amateur dialogues, excessive screaming, so on. Millie is such a talented teen actress who is turning into another Emma Watson which is not a pretty picture at all. I would love it to be just boring but this was actually annoying due to the dumb repetitive plot. How it still gets applauded I will never know. They still acted as we didn't know what this was about after releasing on Women's day. The constant pandering and pushing agenda down everyone's throats will be the end of good media and the ones support these are the biggest culprits
I thought the movie was mediocre as far as the story goes. It looked fine but not much else to say about it. I didn't even know it was meant to be an adaptation of St. George and the Dragon. This makes me realize that I can't remember the last time I watched a movie that played the Damsel in Distress straight. I don't have a problem with the trope being subverted, in fact, I kinda do that in one of my stories. I have a princess who is dragged through the gutter for the whole story. She's kidnapped, imprisoned, and has to fight to survive. She's a damsel in distress with an emphasis on the "in distress" part. There are a few alternative takes on the trope that she might fit better. She's not completely useless- as a princess she is also a powerful mage because magic is very common in my story. Despite being proficient with magic, she's not some badass girlboss. I want it to be a story about her struggling to survive until she is saved by a group of heroes.
The point of a Fairy Tale is, ironically, to exemplify an aspect of Reality. The further a Fairy Tale departs from stereotype the less it fulfills its function as Fairy Tale
The mazes DO play a role...it was how she was able to interpret the map she found and utilize it as well as she did. Most of us would have gotten disoriented and taken a wrong turn at least once or twice. She didn't.
15:14 I thought that too, but what if the father never gave the gold he was paid in exchange for Elodie back? And the castle is a mess due to the dragon, and no-one will confront them after this, so they could have took even more expensive things. I'm not trying to help this movie by any means, but I doubt he gave that money back.
For everyone in the comments who liked the movie, you should read Priory of the Orange Tree. Its set up on a similar premise, the author drew inspiration from and remolded the story of St. George from a female perspective. It’s got multiple narratives as well and a few different plot twists. Also - if a girl draws you such a pretty anatomical heart she’s a KEEPER! It seemed kind of cute and I thought you were unnecessarily ragging on the obvious point of her being good at mazes. I haven’t even watched the movie but it’s clear why this is established. Idk, first time watcher and it seemed overly negative simply for daring to think outside a trope. The writing doesn’t seem overly strong, but that’s it
@@Elora445 yeah, the writing seems lazy and that’s a fair criticism. I mostly don’t like how this reviewer seems to be saying the strong female character is a big reason why it’s weak writing. I don’t like the plot armor either that women are strong enough to toss around long swords and survive fatal falls without much more than a makeup smudge, but I’m also not able to stand the growing number of reviewers who unironically use the term “strong wahmen” as a valid, standalone point
@@batmospheric Seems to be a problem with much of newer films and series - their main hero or heroine just cannot be shown to be "weak" in any way. Makes so much just not worth watching. But yeah, those who "review" the film saying those things...really not worth listening to. It will never be a valid point.
She was also burned several times. She used the magical glowing leeches to heal herself and the dragon. It's a huge plot point in the movie. It's a fantasy, for crying out loud. At least they explain it away. Which is still better than John Wick 4 where he shrugs off bullets and car collisions like he's made of vibranuim.
@@MADba111 lol sorry not a strong point. John wick was trained. They go over that. They also give him a bullet proof suit. And yeah he shows himself het tired and hurt. Mis Girl boss is no comparison to John Wick.
@@MrVlandus right. Because being a trained assassin and a paper thin tuxedo give you immunity to bullets, right up to the finale where you go down in two vitals-missing shots, and many head-on car collisions. But a girl getting stabbed and later healing with magic is too preposterous. Gotcha.
@@MADba111 😂😂😂She got a huge freaking nail to the side and didnt have armor. Her dad had armor and he died with a nail to the torso.. So what makes her special... Lol... to survive that when her dad was a Lord who probably had combat experience. Who probably knew how to fight. But he dies being crushed by nails. And she does not?
@@MrVlandus she's got plot armor. The most sturdy kind. Again, it's a fantasy movie. The lord got stabbed in the heart area. She got stuck in the side I think. I personally still could suspend my disbelief. I've seen a lot worse in a lot better movies.
I'll be "hateful." This movie is a prime example of why the "intersectionalism," "post modernism," and all the current day pseudo-intellectualisms are ultimately foolish. The concept of "Damsel" is actually quite good. In the hands of a good author, I would like to see this tale. However, Elodie (Notice how the dropped the "M" to "Melodie) is rather two-dimensional. The efforts to make her look competent and caring have massive flaws when you look at them. Several people have pointed out many examples, such as chopping wood when she could be doing something such as overseeing trade or something. Her combat skills at the end are chiefly unearned, and her 'badass' appearance at the end is simply to make her 'look badass.' The crowing moment, of course, is when Elodie climbs the crystal shaft to find she's too high up, and the dragon is there. Victoria, the girl who drew the map, died there, too. There is no legitimate reason the dragon did not roast her there and then. She lived simply for the sake of the plot, and the sake of the plot was to "stick it to The Patriarchy." By the way, I'll be "narrow-minded" and "evil" -- "The Patriarchy" does not exist. Wake up. I could go on, but at the climax when Elodie teams up with the dragon, and together they "purge the evil kingdom." ... Why? No, really. Why? There is no way everyone in that castle and the nearby area were ALL evil. And do you honestly think the dragon won't move on? Of if that dragon does not move on, are you completely certain she will not have another clutch of eggs, and at least one hackling will not move on and claim who knows how many lives? Oh yes, "They're just evil humans. All humans are evil, and get what they deserve, and aren't i so clever and witty for making such a wide-sweeping assessment." siiiiigh ... I could think of so many ways this could have been written into a much better story. Here's one. How about when Elodie and the prince talk and get to know each other more, then prince truly grows to like her to the point he finds he can't let be sacrificed. In the short moments they had, they showed one of the reasons he was distant was because he didn't want to get involved with someone he knew he was going to help sacrifice. So how about this for a twist? After he throws her down, there's a pause where you see it from his perspective. She falls. He knows she's still alive and injured. The guilt starts to eat at him. The others try to affirm it's all proper and good, and that this is ONLY way. Then he turns to them, and simply says, "No." And then he quietly steps off the ledge to share whatever fate with Elodie. but no. That kind of story can't happen. Logic can't happen. It's all to "fight' whatever perceived ills of the world. So yet another potentially good story goes into the sewage. To quote Az / HeelvsBabyface, "I'm sick of this timeline."
God, how awful this movie sounds wouldn't it be better if the Queen was the dragon and she was devouring the young princesses to stay young and she was enslaving the kingdom through mind control and millie with help from the sacrificed princesses clues etc to defeat the dragon Queen 🤔 instead of this crap also great video as always 👍
Y'know, some parts sound like this had to potential to be a cool horror thriller with the girl wandering lost in a dark cave full of corpses trying to make it out alive ala Ripley in Alien. But they just had to girlboss.
Your point about how they should have given the dragon sheep instead of princesses ignores the whole revealed motive behind the ritual sacrifice of women with royal blood. Your mocking Elodie for not realizing what happened until she was at the bottom of the chasm is unfair. She had no reason to think that would have been done to her. Just because Netflix spoiled the film for us, it doesn't mean that Elodie should have seen such a sudden betrayal coming.
The richest kingdom on the entire planet asks for you to be the next queen. You who are a dirty (albeit noble) nobody from an impoverished dung heap. This doesnt sound alarm bells?
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I remember my grandmother saying, "I don't care what your TH-camrs say, Bobby Brown was black...".
UHSAUHSUAUSA OMG I needed this comment and I didn't know
Well played
Mine said Dragons are black.
Well, she is Bobby “Brown”
🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭
The majority of the movie is actually a trauma-induced hallucination, as in reality the princess shattered her spine and legs when she hit the bottom of the pit. The dragon isnt real, and she just slowly succumbs to her wounds as she dreams of getting her revenge on the deranged cult who threw her down there.
Cope more clown lol
Ok THAT would actually be a good short film plot!
@@ost324 you are a clown. It would be garbage
You need to go write for hollywood lol that actually sounds like a good movie plot for real.
@@RiverRun-n6gno it sounds like garbage and so are you
"He has gold."
"That's no reason to marry."
It sure was (and still is in some areas) for royalty of all types, especially for Medieval Lords.
your right. peasants use to trade there daughters off for an acre and a mule.
And it still is for all women everywhere.
How do you mean in some areas? All the tabloids thrive off gold diggers spreading their legs for sugar daddies. It´s not even deemed immoral anymore. :)
Exactly! That is so CURRENT YEAR
you do know this is a fantasy tale right? Why does it have to be a "historic" story?
My wife and I watched this, and when the movie was over I told her that I understood why these girls were able to be thrown from 10 stories up and not immediately become paraplegics...it's so that by time you get to the end of the movie and this little girl beats up a dragon in melee combat you will have stopped caring about anything happening in the movie long ago.
The Captain Marvel effect in full swing, really
“She can beat up anyone at anytime, with no effort!”
Then…why do we care about her struggles as a hero…?
“Well cos…ya see, the thing is….hmm…umm…she’s a WOMAN”
Oh. That it? K.
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access lol, I'll have to take your word for it on the Captain Marvel thing. I didn't watch that garbage.
beating a dragon a melee can be a pretty epic scene.
took my character 2 years of progression to be able to do that with rules and dice rolls,, plus the dm was pretty good at it back then.
No, you can totally do it, it just needs some effort behind it. Sh|t like actual writing, maybe some directorial artistry, or even some basic acting would help.
Damn you gave them views
I'm 42. I've been watching schlocky B action movies since the 80's where a hot babe beats up to 20 or 30 guys and makes one liners about how men are useless. It was a genre of exploitation all throughout the 80's and 90's.
Now I'm somehow retroactively labeled woke by a new group of kids online who don't know the history of nerd culture or cinema. It's weird.
So additional comment : Er... the writer does realise how immorally wrong that ending is Right? Burning down an entire castle/town full of possible innocent servants, workers, guardsman and so on who possibly had nothing to do with any of it. Very unlikely that everyone knew about the sacrificing of princesses to a dragon else it would spread like wildfire in rumours to other countries and towns and so on. Yeah sure slaying the person who wronged you is often a moral neutral or good (depending on context) as you're killing a killer or someone who has done evil. But in this tale she is still leaving alive a human eating dragon who has happily partaking in doing so. You are going to be responsible if it kills someone again. Hell it was killing innocent women and if it has intelligence then it would be aware of that so it was happily devouring innocent bystanders. So who is the hero again?
Nah, they were probably, Nazis, toxic men and anyone who have a problem with girlboss movies written by people who isn't very smart. So they deserved it of course, maybe some of them were gamers too.
We don't actually see the dragon eat anyone though. The kingdom thinks she does, but uh, all the princess' corpses are in one piece, albeit in a very VERY charred piece but yeah. Towards the end, I was even wondering if she ate anything or what did she eat.Sure she almost ate Eloise, or at least opened her mouth when she was dangling in the crystal tunnel but....the eating didn't happen. Just a whole lot of slicing, squelching and charring as I put it three quarters through the movie when I stopped caring.
They were given a choice to run. And they've been using the wealth out of Generations of lies. They all deserve it in a sense of revenge. Would be easier of you fucking chose to consume the actual media instead of going to the internet for woke vs woke reviews. Stupid fucks like you disgust me.
director wanted to pull the Tarantino revenge style with a room temperature IQ, result speaks for itself
she told em to run
"taking the story of a man, swapping the genders, and then swapping the heroes for villains..." That's the rough draft of Batwoman...
If you want a better movie starring a damsel named Elle? Try Ella Enchanted... she actually does manage to save herself.
I looove Ella Enchanted
So did Elodie save herself
Or Elle Woods!
I prefer "i am dragon."
It´s a rought draft of any w0ke movie or series.
Now I understand why they used her for sacrifice and not the sheep. Sheeps have infinitely more importance than her.🤣🤣🤣
My thoughts precisely. :) And you can shag sheep - which is NOT the case with Elle, lol.
I hear ya. Mutton do be nice.Plus that wool in winter, awesome.
Then we have some up her own backside princess.
They made the right choice.
Another thing about rejecting the damsel in distress trope is that plenty of woman enjoy it on most occasions, myself included. The lady's in danger? Her man's coming to save her while looking badass?? They're going to have an emotional moment when reuniting??!? Fucking love it A+ no changes needed thanks.
Yeah…I’d rather see those types of stories myself. I don’t have a problem with strong, independent woman saves herself and everyone else movies either. I just get annoyed that it seems as if we are not allowed to have “man saves woman” stories at all anymore. When literally every movie/show coming out features an overpowered woman who “don’t need no man”, it just gets boring. Where are the movies for those of us women who enjoy the damsel in distress trope? At least I have old movies I can watch, I suppose.
Agreed! A strong man stopping at nothing to protect the woman he loves? I genuinely love those stories.
As a man,
I can understand how the damsel trope may have become annoying but it can evolve the right way... But sadly it seems writers who write modern female characters project some kind of power fantasy where they are the one kill Darth Vader or slay the dragon without understanding the origin of the trope, chivalry, honor etcetera.
So we can't just have a lady suddenly be able to wield a heavy sword and kill a beast that has burned dozens of men LITERALLY in one foul swoop. There are ways for her to be feminine, graceful, elegant... Hell she can even help save the prince trying to save her... Establish that she has skills like archery, advanced horseback riding, making small, effective traps for trapping rodents, birds and later builds a simple trap to kill the dragon while using herself as live bait...
Sure, but what's wrong with actually trying something different? So this movie won't give you that trope you are looking for and that must be disappointing but the film itself is not that bad, so women and girls who don't want every single move have a prince rescue the princess can enjoy it for what it is.
Knight in shining armour saving the princess to have a romantic moment upon rescue, then classical or happy music plays in the back to increase the beauty of the scene is SSS tier
Great critique of this tired trope.
I have a statue of St. George slaying a dragon on my bookshelf to remind me that the only stories that will endure are ones that uphold true archetypal values. I look at it often while writing fantasy novels. Just got a novel accepted by a traditional publisher recently. Trying to do my part to revitalize good stories in this beauty-depraved world!
As a fantasy writer, I wish you the best on your publishing. We sure have work to do.
Do your books have dragons? :)
Heck yeah there is! It's actually a science-fantasy novel, with elements of both science-fiction and fantasy (due to different cultures advancing at different paces due to the influence of dark magic on human knowledge in some regions, and the lack-there-of in other regions).
I realize I'm no Tolkien or Rothfuss. I simply want to add a drop in the bucket of good stories that have inspired me. My writings are simply odes to the greats!
@@JonathanTorres-vr1sg Rothfuss didn´t finish his trilogy did he - I read the first two books this year, actually. Who knows, maybe you´re the next big thing? :) Hmm, a sci-fi and fantasy blend is my fav one - for example, The Blue Adept was one of my most fav books growing up. :)
Nice, that sounds like an interesting read!
I have no issue with women kicking ass in movies. Xena Warrior Princess, Blue Eyed Samurai, and Eowyn from LOTR did it right.
The thing they established is that these women became badass after a LIFETIME of training and combat. Their power and fighting strength was earned just as we would want from any male hero. And even then, both female heroes use their cunning and skill to overpower larger, stronger opponents rather than dealing out haymakers like Mike Tyson
And then stories like Damsel or Star Wars come along and just go “she’s the strongest and bestestest BECAUSE SHES A WOMAN, and that’s good enough!” And they’re just flabbergasted, BAMBOOZLED I say, when we say no, it’s not.
What makes them good characters is that they are all flawed. Their flaws make them relatable
My answer to the challenge of 'jut not liking strong, female characters is just two words - Kill. Bill. Not just a movie with a female lead rather than a male lead. It would be a fundamentally different story, which just wouldn't have had the same impact with a male protagonist
@@mikeydflyingtoasterKill Bill would have been better with a male lead... said no dude ever. Also they ignore the plethora of male -lead films that men also do not like. Critics didn't make excuses for Morbius or blame men for not supporting it. It's all dumb.
Don't you forget about Lagertha
She didn’t become the strongest because she’s a woman, though. She became strong because she realized that she was deceived, she had no way out, and that she had people(her family) who she cared about who needed help too.
Reminds you this is supposed to be a fairytale with a twist. I don’t recall learning the backstory of any of the Prince charmings who saved the day.
So remind me why it’s a problem now?
Gold is no reason to marry? You see how many young women are married to sleezy oiled up old men because they have a yacht. The movie wants you to think one way while you already know it doesn't work like that. Its not even a subtle/clever line that can be interpreted in many different ways.
The thing is some women
Choose to be with these men
Lol nobodys forcing them.
You sound so stupid that is making the movie sound smart. Yes, there are people who marry for that reason, but it's their choice, besides, no one's forcing them. Besides, no one sees these people as being righteous, and the idea of the movie is to show what the "right reason" to marry would be: she falls in love with the boy, and he has the same dreams as her, meaning, if they were to actually be together, one could help the other pursue their dreams
Lol yea, but how many of them marry so that her father can get gold?
The girl boss trend with Hollywood is really undoing all the hard work that many amazing creators have put forward in actually uplifting and celebrating women heroes. Tolkien has Galadriel as one of the strongest elves in middle earth along with Eowyn and so on. CS Lewis has four children, two brothers and two sister becoming kings and queens of a fantasy world. Hollywood seems to think that they're undoing some great wrong but making women strong or powerful has never been a problem in fiction even since ancient times. Hollywood if you want a woman who has more masculine traits then the character type you're looking for exists. It's called the Tomboy, ya know the kind of woman who is into what men find fun but doesn't hate men for no reason. Girl boss trend at this point is just a cardboard cut out of "I don't need no man". That's as deep as we get with most of them.
Hollywood should be looking at characters like Revy (Black Lagoon) or Ryuko (Kill la Kill). Well tbh any anime character written in the last few decades will put most of current day Hollywood character writing to shame.
Poor examples, highly sexualised women with depth is for appealing to men.
Better examples would be Ellen Ripley, Sarah Conner, characters that can still be feminine but are capable and strong.
hollywood doesn't care about empowering women or building on the efforts of other people to uplift women. they see how feminism is actually a big deal now and want to jump in for easy money
I think you, as well as this video are off target with this one. The protagonist wasn't portrayed in the best way for sure, but it's no where near to being the oh "girl boss" bad. She had plenty of "journey" to go through till the end, and for sure the movie isn't perfect but it's got nothing to do with the female protagonist. It was a well made movie that could have been better if they gave her more background and more character but it's good enough and nowhere near as bad as this video and people make it out to be. She wasn't Rey, she wasn't a mary sue.
Sure you can all shit on whatever you want, but there is no reason for girls and women to not love this film for what it is. Oh no a princess is going against a dragon instead of a prince? oh get off it. I expect it to be a disaster but it was perfectly fine for what it was going for.
@@scottcheg9 if you think revy and ryouko Chan are bad cause of them looking nice then you are even more shallow, both are well written and cool characters that make you understand and root for
I did not see a Girl Boss in this entire movie. Unless you want to say the Robin Wright Red Queen (of Gold) is. These Crazy people of Aurea created a damn Religion to the Dragon that played with its victims. When the spirit of Victoria makes it to the top and has the wherewithal to draw "It is not safe". Tells you El is not going to survive. She escapes only by unlucky distraction of the guide. What they did to Floria was "Cold Blooded". Truthfully I know plenty of Real Women who've gone Scorched earth with Revenge on people who have done them wrong or to protect their family. Some even are the Red Queen killing their families.You see it daily on network news.
Ok, this movies started off good but left me with more questions than answers...
1.- If supposedly the dragon kept to herself and it was the humans that started the violence... why would they go into the dragons lair in the first place if it was not a threath? And why of all the people the king had to be there? Why not send dragon slayers or offer a reward?
2.- According to other websites they had to offer 3 girl every 10 years (for 300 years!!!) Did they have to marry the prince or king several times every 10 years? did no one notice the missing or disappearance of princesses over the years?
3.- Of all the items she removed from that clunky ass dress... why on earth she kept the damn corset??!!
4.- If the slugs were magical that could cure anything... why not use them on her father??
6.- Did she really just touch her father sword and suddenly knew how to use it?? is she a Disney-Jedi??
7.- How does a dragon get burnt by it's own fire?? (all of my D&D freak friends lost their sh*t on this one) 🤣🤣
8.- At the end the dragon and Elodie killed more people than the royal family!! she practically turns into Dracarys levels of evil!!
9.- The real hero of the story in her makeup!!
I don't know how this movie was supposed to be feminist when they portrayed women as evil, cruel, dumb, vain and racists!!
i only had 3 question when i was watching this.... and those wer:
"what the fck am i watching?"
"what the hell is wrong with people who make movies like this?"
and
"how the hell does anyone find this entertaining?"
I don't qet why they don't have a better solution to their sacrifice dilemma. Especially since they know about the blood fusing thing...
Draw names from a hat.
Offer low income families wealth in exchange for their daughters.
Kidnap homeless women off the streets.
Slaves surely exist, and I'd wager a few of them are women.
I just don't get how they settled on, wedding the prince to a princess, and then sacrifice her to the dragon.
7:48 The prince literally "Yeets" her. Vocally. 🤣
Hahaha that was one of the highlights.
I thought I was the only one to notice that. Lol
@@johnglue1744 you are clowns
I like masculine men and feminine women in film and TV. I can’t understand why this is a big no no nowadays?
How DARE you!!!!
3 words - The Great Reset
@@bribro23 But the majority of the audience still enjoy typical gender roles. Not everyone is non binary. Some people don’t want to watch uncredible girl bosses. Some want to see a bloke rescue a girl. TV and film is just boring nowadays. Maybe I’m old fashioned, but I think I’ll just stick to the classics. Thing is I loved Charmed, Xena and Buffy growing up, because thier strength was credibly written. These films are not - and that’s the problem. It makes no sense.
@@PipJim80You get what is likely behind it.
Too many people keep resorting to phrases like, "cash grab", which actually are completely illogical given the current financial results of this phenomonon.
It is s-u-b version
Because it's not. It's still the norm in society and media. Some people see something different becoming more visible in any way and assume that the majority has flipped. It's a persecution complex.
The "damsel in distress" trope is legitimately meant to instill in men that a heroic man endeavors to save and protect a woman/women. The kind of man who would put his life second to the well-being of the woman he loves. How is that an anti-feminist message? Now they could argue that the woman is perceived as the reward for his adventurous exploits but almost all of these stories make it clear that the woman in question is also seeking the affection of said man. That said, I can see how being represented as needing to be saved all the time might be exhausting but in the words of Captain Marvel "It wasn't made for you!"
To be fair, you can easily flip that argument around right? This wasn't made for you. I think most people would rather we didn't get the same story over and over again... but that's exactly what's happening with all these 'strong independent woman' stories.
@@ellencoleman4604
The problem with the "this movie wasn't made for you" argument is that it's never established who the movie is for, and if they're a significant enough demographic that it's profitable enough to justify making movies for them.
I'd say that "the love of the woman" isn't the prize for men, but rather, through heroics, proving himself worthy of being loved.
@@freman007 I agree with both of your points. Spot on
@ellencoleman4604 the argument *has* very often been flipped around to counter criticism of films, franchises and genres men enjoy that have been "subverted" for audiences that don't actually support those things. That was my sorta my point.
I won't even comment on the film, but using actresses with smartphone faces™ for medieval settings ... why do they still do it?! It's giving Halloween costume, come on...
What?
@@LilacSreyaHer face looks like its pumped full of fillers and filtered or facetuned or whatever its called.
@@LilacSreyaThey're saying that her face looks so modern it makes it unlikely to believe that she's a medieval princess.
Im sorry what the hell is a smartphone face???
Smart phone coded 😂
Re money: "that's not a reason to marry"
That was one of the main reasons aristocratic girls married 🤦♀️
Imagine if they actually made a good movie, that'd be pretty edgy.
Yet another example of a girlboss fantasy making for a much more compelling villain story than hero
A maden sacrificed to a dragon but befriended it because they share pain. She turns its flame to those who scorned her. But it doesn't end with them. All are guilty as they turned a blind eye to her suffering. Any who dont grovle to her are burned or fed to the dragon
Yep. I really liked this movie. I don't see Elodie being displayed as an entirely morally good person with that ending, which is why the movie works for me. Also found it pretty interesting (her being more morally gray than similar movies would've done it).
And sure, while it comes from the "strong woman need no man"-trope, I still also enjoyed they didn't go for the super-overused "... and then she married the prince and they lived happily ever after"-cliché.
The sequel - she and the dragon are going to have dragon babies. :) Trans allegory, perhaps? :)
@@Film_Sushi It would've cost you nothing to not connect this to furry corn. Yet you did :D
@@cy-one since when are the dragons furry creatures, blimey?! My bad! :)))
What are you talking about?
This is pure garbage from start to finish.
Good god!
7:47-8:14 So no one will say anything about the girl falling from an insane height and having no broken bones just a slight increased breathing??
This reminds me of the time when you said " Things start off bad, maintain a steady amount of bad only to end slightly more bad then the start"😂
Didn't even know this garbage existed until this morning when disparu made fun of it and the reviews
All hail Disparu! :p
Unfortunately this movie is actually perfectly fine as a film about a woman vs dragon and people like Disparu who are desperate to milk content are making it far worse than it is. It's got writing issues but nothing about the protagonist being a woman is the problem in this film. And so people will avoid it because these youtubers can't find a better target for a movie about "the message"
@@MrTbob418 you overdosed on copium, man-c8nt. :) Ask your boss for another work, this ain´t worth shekels they pay you, trust me. :)
@@MrTbob418 you must be the only person that watched it cause you are out here defending it with your life for some reason
@@crawlingboy Just as you are trashing it like there is no tomorrow? No, you are not, and I'm not defending it with my life. Don't you think that's going overboard? I'm sharing my view on it, maybe a few posts more than usual because I watched this video before the movie and expected a "disaster". It ain't fair to the movie is my opinion but to each their own.
Why do I have to be the only one to watch it to "defend" it? It's not a great movie, it's just far from this criticism. Again, it's got some cringe but nowhere near to the extent you see on these posts. It's like a cult following around here, and I am one of the big critics of all this. You just have to call it as it is. TH-camrs don't always do that because it's not in their interest BUT that doesn't mean he didn't think exactly what he said.
The sequel to Damsel will be called, "The Spinster Queen." A tale about how a powerful man hating woman refused to get married and now her barons are keyed up to turn her faerie kingdom into a brutal war zone as they compete for the throne. Women are maligned. Children starve. Men die. It will be a tragic King Learesque cautionary fable for end stage feminism.
This but unironically
What's with millie bobby brown and starring in movies injecting feminism in specific stories?
Im still baffled by thought process behind "lets do sherlock holmes but about his sister and feminism"
That was a book before it was a series.
Also there have been Sherlock adaptations were Watson was a woman.
And why are woman led stories are a problem?
Women led stories aren't the problem, poorly written and ham-fisted women led stories are.
Christ I am so sick of the Damsel saves herself. They were so mad about the Damsel in distress trope that they made their own trope that is far more annoying. It has gotten to the point that whenever I see a princess get kidnapped these days I just roll my eyes "She's going to save herself." Before I even finish that sentence she is already out of the tower. It is so damn predictable. And what really annoys me is you can feel the writer looking at you and winking saying "Look, we subverted the trope, aren't I clever!". Like they are the first ones to do it when this shit has been going on for at least the last 20 years if not more. It's not new, it's not cute, it was old 5 years ago, and is now a dried corpse. Stop it.
Nobady was mad about Damsel in distress trope. People were just taird of it being repeted the same way over and over agein, even where it did not make sense.
There are veary little tropes that are bad in the core. It's up to the writing.
I'm a huge TV and Movie enthusiast, i don't watch many post 2016 anymore because they do this shit all the time. Instead of writing a character who has flaws to overcome, let's say Parents were killed or family were killed at a young age, emotional scarring at a young age from small issues to the big ones that aren't kid friendly, to the villain interacting with said character to try to turn them evil, on their side, or the character saw what the villain did and devoting themselves to seek revenge and obviously along the way realized that while revenge is a huge factor to drive us forward, it blinds us and they must learn to control ones emotions along the way. hell even at the end forgiving the villain, walking away and being forced to take their life which saddens and hurts us the viewers because we know its not what the main character truly wanted in the end. these are just some of the driving factors off the top of my head but it's always Woman Stronk, Man stupid and i mean they make the men absolutely useless only there to hold the precious untouchable main up high so we can see just how flawless they are. it's boring no one on planet earth alive right now is flawless. we see a mouse in science class in a container, you name him George, the next 5 years of Highschool the whole school knows about George, people love George, this mouse is a champ and we love to feed it and take care of it and then one day at assembly they announce George passed away. it hurts, hurts some a lot more who really spent time with him. This is who we are as humans we can connect with anything, your little sister gives you a rock and names it after you because she loves you and you look down into her little eyes and she is SO happy to be giving you this gift, you accept it and keep it. you could throw is away and maybe never hear about it again but just in case she asks where your pet rock you keep it. We do this because of our emotions and our easy attachment to things. That's all writers need to do. Stop the diversity hires who CANT fucking act and write a coherent story with flaws and goals and ambition and drive, failures,. lessons. wisdome learned. fucking ANYTHING but GirlBossing so close to the son the wings melt off and when she lands from 2 thousand miles she turns to the man and blames him for a comment in act 1 that no one fucking remembers or cares about. i watch movies now and i can't even remember names im not invested. if im not invested i wont enjoy it and your movie sucks. obviously taste is different for all but majority of people if they cant see themselves in the hero or understand their motives they wont care. that's why i stick to my old TV shows. Scrubs, House M.D, Psych, Smallville, Community and Chuck. i've watched them all countless times and they never cease to entertain me and hurt me with scenes. Anyway. rant over if anyone fully read all this. Thanks lol
Well in a lot of before 2016 movies the oposit is true. In a lot of those movies the guy is perfect and the woman doasn't have a personality beyond loving him, and is only there to be his love intrest.
Also shows like Arcane exist.
FTV: Jonny's advice: " If a girl gives you a picture of any anatomically correct body organ, move to Lithuania."
Not sure what to do, if she draws an anatomically correct vagina, though? :)
Evil can't create ... it can only corrupt.
G.O.A.Tolkien vibes
They make a big deal about MBB chopping wood and goving it to the poor- but shes chopping wood out in the middle of nowhere with no obe else around- so no teams of people bringing ligs in to be split, so one person can only do maybe one tree in a days work. She returns on hosebavk with only a pack on her back tgat can maybe carry 10 pieces of wood- maybe enough for a few hours of fire for one family- basically a big waste of time when she couldve used her position of authority to rally a team of workers to cut and transport enough wood for the whole town for a few days in the same smou t of time- but yhst wouldnt virtue signal hard enough and would imply she needs help from (cough) men.
Lmao you are such a seething clown
"Your Highness" would be far more entertaining. Remember when damsels got themselves out of trouble with their charm, wits and were agile like cats? But sure if you want a 5"4 girl dual wielding zweihanders that's cool too 😜.
I've watched the 40 sec video of Sarah Connor doing chin ups in Terminator . She would have a chance against this dragon, but not this joke . I miss old movies , where characters made sense and were written by actual team of TALENTED writers.
Yea when she started monologuing in the beginning, anybody could've seen the classic, "this is NOT one of those stories" coming at the end of it. My daughter loved Frozen when it came out. Now she hates her sister and is completely focused on the boy across the street 👀
Millie is already lost in the activism. Everything with her is a pass...
Cope clown lol
My mom loved the movie (she's pro women mind you) she was explaining it I was looking at my dad he was shaking his head.After she done explained it I poked so many holes like how stupid can the Dragon that lived so many decades be so stupid and trust humans that killed her children.
Dragon: You killed my children. King: lets make a deal, you let me go and i send you 1 princess a year that has nothing to do with my kingdom, so it is not a punishment for my kingdom. Surely you can life with 1 body a year that tastes like any other body albeit it would be much easyer and more punishing for the kingdom when you would eat me, destroy my castel and then turn the kingdom in a happy hunting ground. Dragon: Deal.
There is a scene when Millie shows her hand to the dragon how the the people made her royalty which then the dragon realized she’s not one of these royalty people
@@FemmeaestheticWhich is dumb, cause that means the dragon never noticed that every girl had a cut in their hands. Also, how does she still have a cut in her hand by the end, when she has been healing her wounds with the glowing slugs? Did she leave that wound for sentimental reasons?
I mean its a dragon. It probably noticed the first one since that was the first, and it could have been cautious that that princess had a type of poison on her person or something, but after that, it probably stopped looking so deeply into the princesses and just went straight to roast town@@cristela4034
Did anyone notice the King always in the background, not saying a word? Nope, neither did I. >.>
he did have two lines. albeit small ones. Good going there your highness.
If they would have just made the men not spineless simps, it would have been fantastic. Her father not knowing the truth and trying to save her after accidentally finding out, the prince having second thoughts and trying to save her (and failing), etc. I enjoyed it, but the over-girl-bossing of EVERY character was lame.
Yaaay, a new Jonny Law video! And showcasing some mad artistic skillz, judging by your new title sequence.
I think Hollywood, Netflix et al need to read the memo regarding 'badass girlbosses': if you have to make all the men surrounding said girlboss weak, dumb and/or evil for her to effectively girlboss... she aint actually much of a girlboss. Let there be POSITIVE male characters in there as well, guys. Don't think of it as 'competition,' think of it as 'collaboration.' Friendship and cooperation are good things.
The only character growth in this entire movie is Millie Bobby cutting her hair.
Then she becomes Rambo on steroid.
She burns the Castle.
The End.
These adaptations are always good for a laugh, thanks for putting the work for our entertainment.
Love the intro mate, color scheme is on point and feels calming with that song. (edit: Apparently I missed the intro in the other recent upload. My bad, still love it though.)
I was lauging most at scene where heroine is picking up her father's sword and using it like battle hardened soldier and professional while in reality she never used one before at all.
You are so spot on with this, as usual. These kind of shows are so blindingly dull, predictable, and done to death. It's mad how the creators still think they are so cutting edge and original. It's laughable. You're absolutely right, if they made a film of the classic story, then that really would be something new.
It's a movie, this one, not a show. And if you watch it you'd notice there is almost no cringe when it comes to the protagonist being a woman vs dragon, it's more about the writing itself, and you'd kind get a feeling some of these youtubers are milking content almost desperately. Maybe it means we are at the end of "the message" and woke era if they can't find a better movie to trash
@@MrTbob418 While you're policing terminology you might want to keep in mind that this is what used to be called a "picture show". Dated, but still ...
@@fredhughes4115 The point is that if you mistake a movie for a show or vice versa, it's is very likely you haven't watched it. Context matters.
@@MrTbob418 My point is that if you insist on making some distinction between the words "movie" and "show" you very likely don't have much of a grasp on the meanings of both terms. Education matters.
@@fredhughes4115 @fredhughes4115 well your point is appreciated but misguided for reasons i mentioned before. It was just to show a person prolly didn't watch the media. Why you are complicating it is your own issue. I know the difference and it doesn't matter to me if some random person online questions it, especially in this context. There is a difference if you are wondering.
My problem with those boss girl knight movies is that they act like modern day and not like an actual dark ages people. On that time a girl wouldn't speak back to her father unless she was allowed to.
Also tell me why she falls down long distances and doesn’t break a bone, and the only substantial injury she got was healed within like, 10 minutes?? I tried watching it on my own but couldn’t make it all the way through 😔
The initial fall when she's tossed in is broken by the vines and the moss. When she falls down a cavern, the incline is not that steep and people lived through worse and she gets cuts and bruises. All the injuries that she gets including scrapes and dragon flame burns are healed by magical leeches that she finds, because it's a fantasy movie.
Also her sister that gets thrown in later actually breaks her leg.
5:36 You have to admit, her drawing skills are a maze ing :)
You must be a dad
And they show everything in the trailer. No need to watch the movie.
the look on Johnny's face when she's 'drinking' from the ice 🤣🤣🤣 say no more, nudge nudge, wink wink, know what I mean??
Imagine it was a comedy and they did play the gag to the fullest in the film. :) Pornhub would squeal. :)
The fact they even made this movie is stupid.
The duties of princesses and princes are to marry and bring benefits to the family and their people.
Its not a matter of liking the ones their marrying, whether the arranged marry couple loves each other or not is of no concern for the family during the medieval period.
Either you get married off or you pick a trade, the fact these idiots that wrote the movie cant even take a moment to search up arranged marriage in medieval period and politics of medieval period.
Throw away the dragon plot point. And we keep this strictly humans involved only and no dragon.
The fact the girl says "I dont wanna marry for that reason"
If I was the father I wouldve been like "oh? So you'd rather our people starve? And grow poor?"
I have always thought that the Clash of the Titans (2010) remake was the perfect way to use a STRONG woman. In this case--Io--where we see that she is strong this is demonstrated best in the battle with the scorpions. During me fight, we see Io dashing about trying to stay away from the danger, BUT in one crucial scene, Perseus is under attack and it looks like he might be killed when suddenly in a shot that lasts longer than 3 seconds we see Io on top of a boulder with a sling (a proper female weapon) that she used to cut off the stinger. After that, Perseus actually HEAVES her through a doorway saving her. For the rest of the move she is lady-like and soft (except for the scene on the Styx ferry where she attempts to make him aware of how dangerous facing Medusa would be.)
What a 'coincidence' that the evil queen is played by the actress who played the protagonist in The Princess Bride.
No IP is safe.
They can't damage that film. In fact, I think with each new low that they attain, they are finding out just how little anybody really remembers their offerings.
"This actor who played this role in this movie has also played another role in another movie, they're clearly trying to devalue that other movie."
Really?
That's a stupid criticism. Actors play different roles in different films. It's literally their job!
Grasping at straws I see
I talk to myself when I am alone :/
I think her being into mazes is correlated to when she’s in the cave and sees a map? And she’s all like “we got this way then that way” like a child at a restaurant with kids menus you can color on
I want to know who made the map, if they got out alive. Did they go back in just to draw the map and then die?
@@randomperson-up5vtuhhh looking for a way out. Duh. And overtime other victims added to it until the map was complete
@@rocknroll1973 but one even had the exit. It's just silly.
@@randomperson-up5vt it wasn't an exit. She died.
@@randomperson-up5vt Victoria ran back to finish the map. Then went to the crystals, onpy to find out she couldn't get down from the mountain and it wasn't safe. She died after writing "not safe"
So the king risk his own life instead of sending peasents to slay the dragon.
He discovers 3 dragon baby's and kills them because they're dragons whole grow up to attack humans.
The king then pleads for his life and makes a deal with said dragon to sacrifice his own daughters.
Yet they try to paint him as a monster and not the tragic hero that he is.
He literally just loses his 90% of his bloodline... and he's evil cuz his pp
At this point, the strong, independent wahmen trope is so played out, there isn’t any glass left in the ceiling to smash.
This isn't a trope. Of course the female protagonist of a action fantasy movie is gonna be competent. That's to be expected you absolute clown
Folklore is myth. Mythology is powerful because it wraps humanity into identifiable roles and actions. Stray from that, and mythology loses its power. Attempt to flip it 180°, and it becomes impotent and unidentifiable.
It would be as if a mythology were to arrange a story where Stoke City were to win the FA Cup using the women’s team…
@arctain1
That's.. TTheir entire purpose for doing it. They WANT to take away the power of mythology, they WANT to destroy cultural icons, because it's the first step towards destabilizing a population. Take away anything they can rally behind, and they'll be weaker and easier to conquer.
Don´t give them ideas!! :)) Besides, they ARE trying to build their own mythology. They have to, since their attempt to bring back slavery system or the feudal castes at least, that needs some spiritual mumbo jumbo, trust me. :)
Ah, Stoke City won the FA Cup?? When? :)
So she just burned a whole kingdom
Sounds like a supervillain
That is how SJW's write... they don't know about actual heroes. Their heroes burn down cities and destroy. So heroic.,
"And the twist is, the princess is turned into the dragon."
You can tell they were just so pleased with themselves when they came up with this.
@@harbl99 I thought it was perfectly fine. She gave people a chance to run so f the rest. The dragon is the villain, and the protagonist is not exactly much of a hero after that but does she need to be?
To be fair the movie never framed her as a hero so much as a survivor, and made her anger pretty apparent.
Hells, they even drew a direct parallel between her, her dad that sold her and the king that killed baby dragons. When she stuck her sword in the ground. And just like them she feeds into the circle of violence.
This is why my wife and I do not have Netflix Disney Amazon poisoning our kids
Platforms that have content you can CHOOSE WHAT TO VIEW OR NOT and has PARENTAL CONTROL, unlike live tv. So don't be lazy, take advantage of technology, and do your part by supervising.
Pornhub is kenough. :)
The movie doesn't preach women empowerment and is actually quite good, I'd definitely let my kids watch it if they were of enough age. Some of these vidoes are overexaggerating the female protagonist "problem" when they should focus on the writing issue. I really feel like they are trying to milk content with this one. There was very little cringe in the way of "im a girl boss"
@@MrTbob418 so you basically say ´don ´t trust your own eyes, trust what I say´, right? F8ck off, woke-bro. :)
9:54 how is she even climbing up with such a smooth rock and without any foothold? are we supposed to believe she's lifting herself with the sheer power of her arms? I cannot take this very seriously even if it's a fantasy story. The basic laws of reality should still apply
They’d only do this to a Christian story, all other religious tales are sacred cultural artifacts that must be respected.
Wrote my masterthesis about this motive and there are actually a few stories about female dragonslayers. I really would like to see one of them on my screen, simply because they past the test of time while this "fairytale" will be forgotten soon.
Johnny, with all due respect, 4th century, not 11th.
My bad Macie, the earliest reference I could find was from the 11th. My apologies.
The story of King George will still exist is a hundred years. This story will be forgotten in a week.
Coope clown
Just stumbled across this video. Saw folklore and had to click. I didn't even realize what story this was butchering. Mind you, I hadn't planned on watching it to begin with. I appreciate you explaining just what story elements guys really connect with. It hilights what they're tossing to the side. Good review, I'll have to check out more of your stuff.
millie's character was SO obnoxious. her attitude when she meets the prince, doesn't make sense. and i get WHY she is shown the be a girlboss so early on, bc that makes us think, she can survive the dragon later on... cause she's not like the other girls she's a tough cool girl 😏 But just because it is a survival story, doesn't mean she has to be less feminine. in fact the story would be more impactful if she was shown to be more "weak". there is no way SHE would survive.... that sets the stakes extra high. i don't mind the arc of the dragon being fooled by the royals and millie befriends it.. it could still work... AND i actually loved how the dragon looked! really a cool beautiful but terrifying dragon. ..... anyways.. it is the convenient small things that are annoying. her SCREAMING as she was burnt, would make the dragon know EXACTLY where she was... yet it doesn't.... she meets magical glowing snails that can help her see AND heal her wounds. how convenient😏 then the dragon finally destroys the entire city.... cool cool. WHY would millie be ok with that, knowing where she came from? and her walking like a wounded bad@ss in the end... they really thought she was serving... lol but again... a more wounded and barely surviving girl would have been cooler.. kind of like the ending of ready or not. it was cool enough that she survived she didn't need this girlboss strut.
Those glowing bugs were ripped off from Pitch Black. :D They don´t have any magical powers in that movie, they just glow and repel the dangerous carnivorous alien creatures who are hypersensitive to the light.
I've yet to see Millie Brown in something where she's actually good. 'cause the only reason she was passable in season 1 of Stranger Things is because she didn't talk.
I mean, after the first meeting, the prince was probably like... "well, that felt good." After chucking into the pit. "I thought I would feel absolutely awful, lying to and then murdering some poor girl, but you know what? I'm feeling okay! She really was the *worst*! Now she's that poor dragon's problem."
this episode should have been named A damsel in disaster.
I see Netflix destroying all young actors is still a thing. What a shame. She should fire her agent.
Cope
As an Australia i am angered by your Dire Straits Joke and using Walk Of Life as the punch line. Twisting by the Pool and Walk of Life were the worst and we know he did it for radio plays but man should busted out Lady writer, Sultans of Swings or Heavy Fuel and the rest of the video should just be Mark Knofler Shredddding his Fender. WEW
"The damsel in distress archetype contains all of the elements that men find important in life" - This is exactly why we are not allowed to have it, Jonny. Men, bad.
The interaction between the Prince and Elle epitomised the problem. She talks to him in a completely disparaging fashion and he just kisses her ass, telling her that she’s amazing.
Casting the real Bobby Brown would have been stunning and brave
Cope clown
Damsel, more like Dismal
The story itself is great! The movie interpretation, though, was a bit ham-handed and over-acted for the most part. And she still ended up almost nekkid by the end, so... pretty weird take, Netflix.
Edited to add that both of the villains in this story were female (queen and dragon). I never got the sense that it was a battle of the sexes or some attempt to usurp "masculine" power.
Ok, but who drew the route to the "exit" (sun on the map)?
Obviously a previous damsel escaped via that route then came all the way back to draw the map for those that followed, but for some reason neglected to put on the map that you couldn't actually escape that way. Whoops.
@@drinkxyzOf course not, you know why? So she climbed up and saw the sun. Then she returned back to the safe cave and drew the route (bc she's so kind) and then climbed back up and then realised that it is no viable escape route but then got interrupted and burned by the dragon.
Absolutely understandable behaviour
@@drinkxyzclown
Danny Phantom did an episode like this 20 years ago and better
Actually her drawing those mazes do actually come in later because she's looking at the maze on the wall and figuring it out so how she can get out of the cave where the dragon is in. So yeah her drawing and understanding mazes does actually come into play later on if you actually watch the movie
but drawing an atomically correct heart would be impressive! 😅
could've been the beginning of her Breaking bad journey, where she would have to sell drugs in order to save her people from starvation. Maybe I'd watch that.
I know feminists who take issue with the Girl Boss trope as well. They have no issue with strong female leads, but in the Girl Boss trope the character is basically a female man. So a woman who is strong in all the same ways as a man, but without any femininity at all.
These particular feminists that strong female leads should be strong, but in a way which is distinctly feminine. And they should have flaws, because it’s patronising and robs women of their agency to depict them as perfect.
Personally I don’t mind the occasional Girl Boss character, as some women are actually like that. But it gets too much if there’s one in virtually every movie. Women deserve better representation and film goers in general deserve better characters.
Shut up you absolute clown. You hate women
They are femine you absolute clown . Bobby is feminine you are upset that she is strong and strength is masculine to you inherently
Ah, but don't you see? With the kingdom destroyed, all those starving villagers can now go ahead and redistribute all those crops and livestock that the evil rich no longer need, to themselves. So progressive.
Neigbouring warlords who no longer have an army to face to plunder: "yes, but actually no."
This guy clearly missed the point on his head.
Meghan Markel not allowed to bring anyone but her biological mother to her own wedding.
Her father who loving raised her not allowed to walk her down the isle or attend the ceremony only to have the dragon breath prince Charles take over those duties
Again the same old evil men and perfect angel women narrative. It has become highly annoying and tiresome to watch the same agenda movies over and over. Awful story, awful acting, messy screenplay, mind numbingly dumb plot points, amateur dialogues, excessive screaming, so on. Millie is such a talented teen actress who is turning into another Emma Watson which is not a pretty picture at all. I would love it to be just boring but this was actually annoying due to the dumb repetitive plot. How it still gets applauded I will never know. They still acted as we didn't know what this was about after releasing on Women's day. The constant pandering and pushing agenda down everyone's throats will be the end of good media and the ones support these are the biggest culprits
I thought the movie was mediocre as far as the story goes. It looked fine but not much else to say about it. I didn't even know it was meant to be an adaptation of St. George and the Dragon. This makes me realize that I can't remember the last time I watched a movie that played the Damsel in Distress straight. I don't have a problem with the trope being subverted, in fact, I kinda do that in one of my stories. I have a princess who is dragged through the gutter for the whole story. She's kidnapped, imprisoned, and has to fight to survive. She's a damsel in distress with an emphasis on the "in distress" part. There are a few alternative takes on the trope that she might fit better. She's not completely useless- as a princess she is also a powerful mage because magic is very common in my story. Despite being proficient with magic, she's not some badass girlboss. I want it to be a story about her struggling to survive until she is saved by a group of heroes.
“ready or not” done this story %147 times better. I don’t know why they are not after new type of fiction or new stories.
The point of a Fairy Tale is, ironically, to exemplify an aspect of Reality. The further a Fairy Tale departs from stereotype the less it fulfills its function as Fairy Tale
Thats one nasty revisionism, pretty nasty and pathetic tbh.
The mazes DO play a role...it was how she was able to interpret the map she found and utilize it as well as she did. Most of us would have gotten disoriented and taken a wrong turn at least once or twice. She didn't.
15:14 I thought that too, but what if the father never gave the gold he was paid in exchange for Elodie back? And the castle is a mess due to the dragon, and no-one will confront them after this, so they could have took even more expensive things. I'm not trying to help this movie by any means, but I doubt he gave that money back.
For everyone in the comments who liked the movie, you should read Priory of the Orange Tree. Its set up on a similar premise, the author drew inspiration from and remolded the story of St. George from a female perspective. It’s got multiple narratives as well and a few different plot twists.
Also - if a girl draws you such a pretty anatomical heart she’s a KEEPER! It seemed kind of cute and I thought you were unnecessarily ragging on the obvious point of her being good at mazes. I haven’t even watched the movie but it’s clear why this is established. Idk, first time watcher and it seemed overly negative simply for daring to think outside a trope. The writing doesn’t seem overly strong, but that’s it
Yeah, I got the impression it's kind of a lazy movie, as in lazy writing.
@@Elora445 yeah, the writing seems lazy and that’s a fair criticism. I mostly don’t like how this reviewer seems to be saying the strong female character is a big reason why it’s weak writing. I don’t like the plot armor either that women are strong enough to toss around long swords and survive fatal falls without much more than a makeup smudge, but I’m also not able to stand the growing number of reviewers who unironically use the term “strong wahmen” as a valid, standalone point
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Seems to be a problem with much of newer films and series - their main hero or heroine just cannot be shown to be "weak" in any way. Makes so much just not worth watching.
But yeah, those who "review" the film saying those things...really not worth listening to. It will never be a valid point.
The voice of the dragon was great. Everything else was utter tosh!
Don't forget she was stabbed in the side with a dragons nail and lived
She was also burned several times.
She used the magical glowing leeches to heal herself and the dragon. It's a huge plot point in the movie.
It's a fantasy, for crying out loud. At least they explain it away. Which is still better than John Wick 4 where he shrugs off bullets and car collisions like he's made of vibranuim.
@@MADba111 lol sorry not a strong point. John wick was trained. They go over that. They also give him a bullet proof suit. And yeah he shows himself het tired and hurt. Mis Girl boss is no comparison to John Wick.
@@MrVlandus right. Because being a trained assassin and a paper thin tuxedo give you immunity to bullets, right up to the finale where you go down in two vitals-missing shots, and many head-on car collisions. But a girl getting stabbed and later healing with magic is too preposterous.
Gotcha.
@@MADba111 😂😂😂She got a huge freaking nail to the side and didnt have armor. Her dad had armor and he died with a nail to the torso.. So what makes her special... Lol... to survive that when her dad was a Lord who probably had combat experience. Who probably knew how to fight. But he dies being crushed by nails. And she does not?
@@MrVlandus she's got plot armor. The most sturdy kind. Again, it's a fantasy movie.
The lord got stabbed in the heart area. She got stuck in the side I think.
I personally still could suspend my disbelief. I've seen a lot worse in a lot better movies.
I'll be "hateful." This movie is a prime example of why the "intersectionalism," "post modernism," and all the current day pseudo-intellectualisms are ultimately foolish. The concept of "Damsel" is actually quite good. In the hands of a good author, I would like to see this tale. However, Elodie (Notice how the dropped the "M" to "Melodie) is rather two-dimensional. The efforts to make her look competent and caring have massive flaws when you look at them. Several people have pointed out many examples, such as chopping wood when she could be doing something such as overseeing trade or something. Her combat skills at the end are chiefly unearned, and her 'badass' appearance at the end is simply to make her 'look badass.'
The crowing moment, of course, is when Elodie climbs the crystal shaft to find she's too high up, and the dragon is there. Victoria, the girl who drew the map, died there, too. There is no legitimate reason the dragon did not roast her there and then. She lived simply for the sake of the plot, and the sake of the plot was to "stick it to The Patriarchy." By the way, I'll be "narrow-minded" and "evil" -- "The Patriarchy" does not exist. Wake up.
I could go on, but at the climax when Elodie teams up with the dragon, and together they "purge the evil kingdom." ... Why? No, really. Why? There is no way everyone in that castle and the nearby area were ALL evil. And do you honestly think the dragon won't move on? Of if that dragon does not move on, are you completely certain she will not have another clutch of eggs, and at least one hackling will not move on and claim who knows how many lives? Oh yes, "They're just evil humans. All humans are evil, and get what they deserve, and aren't i so clever and witty for making such a wide-sweeping assessment." siiiiigh ...
I could think of so many ways this could have been written into a much better story. Here's one. How about when Elodie and the prince talk and get to know each other more, then prince truly grows to like her to the point he finds he can't let be sacrificed. In the short moments they had, they showed one of the reasons he was distant was because he didn't want to get involved with someone he knew he was going to help sacrifice. So how about this for a twist? After he throws her down, there's a pause where you see it from his perspective. She falls. He knows she's still alive and injured. The guilt starts to eat at him. The others try to affirm it's all proper and good, and that this is ONLY way. Then he turns to them, and simply says, "No." And then he quietly steps off the ledge to share whatever fate with Elodie.
but no. That kind of story can't happen. Logic can't happen. It's all to "fight' whatever perceived ills of the world. So yet another potentially good story goes into the sewage.
To quote Az / HeelvsBabyface, "I'm sick of this timeline."
There's fairy tales from the Grimm era that had female protagonists more believable.
This only proves that Enola Holmes is decent only because Henry Cavill shows up some times.
Every line of that disaster feels like it was written by an AI who was told "Be feminist"
"Make as little noise as possible." Millie is pathologically incapable of going ten seconds without making noise.
0:30 That horse seems to be rather into old Georgie.
That bit about cereal box puzzle and independentest really cracked me lmao
God, how awful this movie sounds wouldn't it be better if the Queen was the dragon and she was devouring the young princesses to stay young and she was enslaving the kingdom through mind control and millie with help from the sacrificed princesses clues etc to defeat the dragon Queen 🤔 instead of this crap also great video as always 👍
Y'know, some parts sound like this had to potential to be a cool horror thriller with the girl wandering lost in a dark cave full of corpses trying to make it out alive ala Ripley in Alien.
But they just had to girlboss.
Oh no how dare they make her bad ass they should make her a poor victim you absolute clown
Your point about how they should have given the dragon sheep instead of princesses ignores the whole revealed motive behind the ritual sacrifice of women with royal blood.
Your mocking Elodie for not realizing what happened until she was at the bottom of the chasm is unfair. She had no reason to think that would have been done to her. Just because Netflix spoiled the film for us, it doesn't mean that Elodie should have seen such a sudden betrayal coming.
The richest kingdom on the entire planet asks for you to be the next queen. You who are a dirty (albeit noble) nobody from an impoverished dung heap. This doesnt sound alarm bells?