Pick my DCT African twin up a week ago 75 years old haven’t ridden for years. Bike is amazing unbelievable never a test drive I just bought it without riding it. The DCT learned how I wanted to shift I’ve been driving slow speed on back roads it doesn’t go directly into six gear . Until I want to go fast. This bike is much better than I could’ve imagined.from Quebec Canada
Just read your comment today, March 24, 2023 - PEI, Canada. I’ve ridden for 50+ years (70 now) and have a few bikes. Just bought an Africa Twin DCT but haven’t ridden it yet. Just wondering how you got along with yours?
Fantastic to here brother. Just about to pull the trigger on a 2018 DCT in Cambodia, via Victoria BC. 60 years and holding baby. Be safe and thank you for the vote of encouragement on an AT.
I have a 2017 and love it. Bought it down in Mexico because we live down there at least half the year. Put it in the back of the truck back in 2019 and drove to Oregon where I left it. Went back down to Mexico and bought a 2020 Adventure sport with dual clutch this time. They have made many changes along the way and as happy as I was with the 2017 I am twice as happy now. Love the dual clutch, The new frame that sits much lower, electrical outlet plus usb outlets, heated grips, so many options on the electronics for your ride. And more great bike and at age 75 I have riden a lot of bikes over the years but this 2020 is so far above the rest. WoW
@@protectork9831 that has been exaggerated. South side of Chicago is just as bad. Need to be careful in dubious places. Mexico is not easy but you also can’t be acting like a tourist every where. There are millions of Americans Canadians snd Europeans happily retired in many places around Mexico outside of the resort areas. Check out Guanajuato, Guadalajara, Aguascalientes, Monterrey etc.
Got my first ever motorcycle 8 months ago at the age of 55.... yes, 2018 AT DCT and absolutely loved learning to ride on it and have now done 1000's of miles on it.... obsessed is an understatement!!!! Your video sums it up perfectly.
You inspired me to buy my very first bike! I wanted a dirt bike initially but don’t own a truck or trailer, so I started researching dual sports and adv bikes and decided on the ktm 390 adventure. this thing is a blast and I love I can ride it to and from the trails. Great channel, maybe an AT will be a major upgrade for me later down the road 🌲
Own 2016/17 Africa Twin in Japan. No stand problems. Do have center stand installed. I do little off-road stuff and use the bike as an excellent touring machine. Yes, comfortable. Excellent machine and mine with DCT.
If you turn it off at the Red Cutoff switch instead of the key .. it keeps the settings like ABS and Wheelie Control Off ! (There are a few other bikes that this applies for also) Fine for a short stop to take a photo or a toilet stop. BUt from memory it leaves the DRLs on so not good for long time stop.
Just bought a demo 2020 CRF1100L, loving it, so much power on tap and as you say once rolling it feels nice and nimble. New one is lighter than old model, I don't find it too bad to wheel around the garage.
Its NOT just you. I’m 68, and bought a new 2019 in May of 2020, sight unseen in Arkansas on my way home to Illinois from Arizona. Got 17.8k miles on it now. It’s a handful to maneuver around slowly. I’ve dropped it a number of times, and was pinned under it 3 times, on a group ride, luckily, I had help. When it’s up to speed it’s sheer delight. I have realized that the bike is too big and heavy for me to scout out sketchy back road trails by myself anymore. I just bought a CRF 250 L for that, and it’s wonderful. When I hop back on the Africa twin, after a few days of the 250, I realize what a gorgeous machine it is. I hope to find some thing in between those two, and just have one bike for everything.
Btw, I’m very much enjoying your channel, and wish I’d seen this video before buying. Might have made a difference. I’d been waiting for the T7 to hit the states, but got tired of the wait and got super deal on the AT. Now that I finished the last few minutes of your video, I made a few edits to hopefully, clarify my post.
Glad to hear at 75 still riding and appreciate the 2017 eval. Looking at one now. Currently riding the trusty DRZ400s and an XR600R through the AZ desert at 62. Altho the XR can get me unto trouble, lol. Stay safe!!
I also find the stock seat comfortable. Test rode both the AT and a Gold Wing F6B within 15 minutes of each other. I’d always had back problems and/or sore butt requiring either an aftermarket seat, a backrest or both to ride any length of time comfortably. Was shocked to find the Gold Wing uncomfortable and the AT comfortable. I’m now 75 and still own a ‘17 AT DCT. Admittedly, now use an AirHawk cushion with so little air in it one would think it was deflated....but hours in the saddle are accomplished with little or no discomfort. Love that bike and the DCT but it is getting to be a handful.
I've done 127,000 klms on my 16 manual. We've ridden from Australia, through Asia to Europe and North Africa two up over 3 1/2 years. I can't agree about the seat. For me it was a shocker. Some of the best money i spent on the bike was replacing the seat. (replacing the suspension, although expensive was also money well spent) Other issues are the front spokes along with corroding they will work loose. Keep an eye on them. The front disc carrier's where they make contact with the bobbins will most likely flog out prematurely. Usually the right, but can also be the left. Honda have replaced many under warranty. If you ride heavily loaded or in wet and dusty conditions, then the rear right wheel bearing can fail in as little as 20,000 klms. If you are mostly on pavement then you'll get at least twice this. I've adapted a double row ball bearing, problem fixed. Hmm, what else. Oh, my battery lasted problem free until 120,000 klms, so not bothered about the location. In any case I don't really find it an issue. When first released these bikes were relatively cheap compared to their competition. To achieve this Honda cut corners on some aspects of the bike. The obvious areas being the suspension and spokes to name but two. Oh and the side stand, your right about that. It's made of cheese. Although having said that, mine hasn't snapped yet. But I don't mount the bike by standing on the peg first. That will definately break the side stand, especially if you are on the rotund side.The original pegs belong on a PeeWee 50. So change those to your preferred brand. Pivot pegs for me. So far the cross bar above the instuments have lasted trouble free, all this time with a Garmin LM590 hanging off of it, lucky I guess. If you are mostly on the tarmac i wouldn't be concerned. But yes many have snapped. But the major componatry is solid. I've only adjusted the two inboard exhaust valves for example. If we were riding solo, we'd be on much lighter bikes. I think the CRF300 would be a far better choice for long term RTW travel (solo). I might sound like I don't like the bike. I do, but you need to recognise it's faults and limitations. This bike and it's peers are all far too heavy and have waaaaay too much electronic gimmicks for my liking. Fortunately the 16/17's wern't burdened with too much electronics. All a bit long winded I know, but I think I have a bit to offer on this bike. More info found here if you are at all inclined. advrider.com/f/threads/rtw-on-a-h-a-t-in-the-slow-lane.1172713/
I've got a 2016 and everything you said w the exception of having a large fuel tank is spot on. I've got one and have 35,000 mi on it. With moderate riding skills, it's perfect for forestry roads and 2-track. I've had 800 mile days on the saddle without any problem. It corners like a road bike and will easily keep pace with street bikes even w 50/50 tires. My only real complaint? No cruise control. If you ride a lot of miles, you'll appreciate even something as simple as a throttle lock. Oh, and tubeless tires. ADV bikes are not dirt bikes. Tubeless wheels would be plenty strong for 99% of anyone who would take a 500# bike loaded with camp gear offroad.
One thing to remember if you have the DCT model is to make sure it’s in neutral when you switch it off, otherwise you have clutch drag which makes the bike seem even heavier than it is. Thanks for the video 👍
Doesn't the bike do this automatically? I had always assumed so, anyway, from the provision of the parking brake and the fact that you have to put it in gear after you start it back up. Is it somehow keeping the clutch disengaged when it's off, and then shifting to neutral when you start again? Or how's that work?
Love my 2017 as well . Smooth power and very capable in the dirt . Have the same mods as well on my AF and added a booster sensor on my air intake to see how good they work. Very happy how it works.
I also have a 2016 Africa Twin purchased off the dealer floor in April 2017. Had a $1,000 off sale that month. It is my second brand new motorcycle in my life. The first was an XL-250 I bought in May 1974. My very first motorcycle was a 1965 Honda CA95 Benly Touring ("Baby Dream") 125 cc. Drove it 135 miles each way weekends when I started college (until it got cold). While in the service, I bought a used 1970 Honda CL175. I bought the XL-250 as I on terminal leave. Sorry I sold that XL-250. 1986 BMW R80 RT then swapped if with his nephew for a maintenancemaintenance took some time to adjust to the seat height and weight. Purchased the Honda lower seat, then a Sargent lower seat. I have a bit more mass to spread out on the seat. The more I rode it, the more confident I became with stopping in traffic when the road slopes the "wrong" way. Maneuveringaneuvers in parking lots when I have the time. For the few times I will actively go off onto trails and more technical riding, I did find another 1974 XL-250. It does need some "attention" but not too much. It won't be my daily ride. But I did notice that I could almost "flat-foot" when stopped. AND the seat is much more comfortable than the current CRF250L/CRF300L. I have been very happy with my Africa Twin. Other than adding crash bars (I dropped the bike twice - both times in my driveway after installing the crash bars, not before), wider foot pegs, and a lithium battery, the bike is mostly stock.
Growing up on dirt bikes. Been on big Harleys as an adult. My friend took me to test ride an AT this weekend before he bought it. As he hasn't rode in a while. Even the guy selling was saying it was heavy. When I got on it, I was blown away that it felt so light. I took off, and just started riding like my old BMX days. I felt like I could do anything on. Came back in with an Endo. I stress tested the shit out it. I felt in love with it. Now I'm planning on getting one. Now his is a DCT. That took some getting used to. It's fine, but never really felt like I had 100% control. So I'm going to look for a normal Clutch version. I'm 40 years old, my knees are shoot from a very physical life and this bike just felt right. I don't really understand why heavy even comes to mind for people on the AT.
Great review. Had a 2017 and a 2019, both were amazing. I agree about the weight, once you get going it feels like a 450lbs bike at most, power wheelies in 2nd gear which is kind of surprising when you look at the power to weight ratio. At 6'1" I couldn't stand the stock seat (weird angle that doesn't seem to affect shorter riders). Also I wish Honda tried to simplify the maintenance. The valve check at 25000km is too soon and quite a project (8h for a Honda technician if adjustments are needed), Yamaha generally recommend valve checks way over 40000km and I know someone who put 200000km on a super tenere without ever even checking the valves. Even the air filter is not quick to get too, just too many plastics covering everything (it took about 2 minutes to change the air filter on my Honda Nighthawk and that was a road bike, why would you want to make the access harder on an adventure bike?). Aside from that, just one of the best all round bikes out there. I've seen a rider put 500000km on his...
I bought my AT (2016) three years ago, and having put almost 20,000 miles on it since, I can attest to the truth of everything you said. I love riding it. But I am seriously thinking of getting a second smaller bike to build my off-road skills. There are so many places around here where I think I might get into trouble with a 500lb+ bike. Not to mention my driveway, which is steep and I must share with two cars.
My 2017 AT is my first bike. I bought it before I even had a learner's license. I now have 5573 kms (3463 miles) on it and I love it so much. It was a pain in the arse to get licenced during Covid but worth every second I had to wait.
Moving the bike around is all relative. For my 68 year old body it’s a cakewalk compared to my Yamaha fjr. Agree with crazy battery position. Riding this bike is fun! 1000 ccs is the perfect engine. 😊
I had a 2017, all in all it was a good bike but the suspension and weight forced me to move on. For those that don't ride aggressively off-road it's a fantastic ADV bike and a pleasure to ride on the highway.
I own a 22 africa twin standard im 6' 208 lbs I have no issues with this bike and it's rider preference and you can build a bike for individuals . I take it everywhere it's a go anywhere do anything bike and love mine have 14k miles but wish honda would make a 1200 africa twin
I love my 2016 AT, put over 55k on it since 2018. I have one gripe you didn't mention, the front forks need work for any kind of serious offroad. Also there is a design flaw with the fork walls and they will bind up over time. The fix is to replace the outer fork bodies with the 2019 ATAS bodies. Other than that and the other two things you mentioned this bike is as capable as anything else out there and its ultra reliable.
@@DorkintheRoad people have said the same thing could happen on any bike, its part of the deal when running off road I suppose. Whats surprising to me is that even on regular street use people say the same problems. The fix is pretty easy IMO, every rider should be able/know how to change out fork oil seals and replacing the fork bodies is simple as it all comes apart at that stage. Plus the new ones look cool AF as that dark bronze color really pops against the silver paint we have on our 16's
I agree, it’s a great bike. But it’s at least 100 lbs too heavy. I rented one and went for a trip (5.000-5.500 miles). It was perfect on the highway, nice on gravel roads, but way to bulky for any technical riding, especially solo, like I did. Once you’re down, you’re stucked. It’s the same problem, like with the fat GS’es.
100lbs?? With the added fuel on my 2018 ATAS it is a beast but while riding it still feel very nimble. If you want to drop 100lbs you will need to go with the Yamaha Tenere 700 which is a great bike and you only lose two things IMO. #1 - Not as good with a passenger #2 - It is not a Africa Twin :)
I have the 2017, I'm surprised you didn't mention the stock pegs, they're comically small, had to upgrade those right away, every time I put the kickstand down and watch it flex😬...but most of all I also fell in love with the bike in the first couple miles, couldn't wipe the grin off my face
I picked up my ATAS in 2018, it's my primary ride, the Honda is such a blast to ride anywhere. Did a upstate NY to New Mexico and back ride with no issues on any type of roads. My first major change was to swapped out the stock rims for Rally Raid tubeless. Did cost some $ but definitely a stronger rim. Really enjoy your videos.
Great video! I have a 19 and agree. Saturday layed mine down in fine gravel.. it sucks to crash on pavement! Wish I had more gear on than just a helmet. Roadrash hurts!
It feels easier to maneuver around (in some ways) than my DR650. I can lean it over way further and not worry about dropping it. The clutch and steering lock are so amazing it is also easy to 'push' around with the engine assisting.
@@BikerBytes Might be a perception thing - The DR isn't that heavy, so should be easy to maneuver - but isn't. The AT is heavy so you think it will be really hard to maneuver - but isn't. OR I might just be a weirdo :)
@@campbellrousselle9752 I used to ride an F800GS but found it way to heavy (for me) when doing single or difficult tracks especially at low speed and so after dropping it a few times I moved to the DR and never looked back. So much better (for me). I agree, at speed, sure no problems but I wouldn't take such a large bike through narly tracks. ATB Jason.
@@BikerBytes Yep, we'll see how I feel when I do knarlier stuff. I might not be quite so cocky then. I'll send you a link if I do some good tracks and film it :) Might be a good vid of me struggling and wishing for something lighter LOL
@@campbellrousselle9752 yeah, I didn't want to give up the 800 as it was a good bike and great for long haul trips and gravel roads etc but the last drop was enough to convince me it wasn't the bike for me no matter how good it was. The DR opened up a new world and I'm enjoying every moment!
The whole weight thing is a tradeoff for every type of motorcycle. The question is do you want the mass for momentum or not. It's great at faster speeds for pot holes with proper suspension. But terrible if your falling over or going less than 5 mph much of the time such as going through dense woods. If your going distance on dirt roads it's great.
Yes the AT is heavy. Of course adding many up grades increased the weight. I purchased a 2019 CB500X and many modes to it includ Rally Raid shocks and wheels and T-Rex skid plate and bars. Honda has a NT1100 out based on the AT for tour but talking to dealers here in Washington it is not coming here and dealers have no interest in carrying it. Their market is the fast crouch rockets that not used for road trips and wheelies. So Installed road type tires and use the AT for touring. I now have Tusk hard cases that can be locked and not the Mosko Moto soft bag the 500x is my off road bike. Idaho and Utah BDR. They both more work than Washington BDR.
I have to say I enjoy the stock seat as well. I swapped the kickstand and added the windscreen brace to mine as well. The real thing people need to know before purchasing is that you’ll also be buying a laundry list of aftermarket parts too haha..... so better plan for that too.
You really feel the wait when it falls over in the mud. I have the Sports DCT, and I'm thinking about getting a jack to help me lift it up. It rides great but when you tip it over it's like a Sherman tank.
DITR! Nice review and, as a 2017 AT owner with 10K, I 100% concur with you assessment. I bought it because I needed one bike to do everything and it does all well. Look forward to riding with you and Ryan some time soon. Kelly "Odie" Odegaard, Salem
Great video, just picked up a Matt black 2020 model, I was very close to buying a GS but once I’d road tested the AT my mind was made up. Still getting to grips with the TFT & apple car play 😂😂. Looking forward to going off road.
I’ve got 40K on my 2017 AT and the forks are fine. I don’t have any Stiction issues people have complained about. Also, the 2016 is the second gen of the Africa twin moniker. The first gen was a 750 that Honda built for the Dakar.
I have a 2019 CRF1000L Standard Africa Twin and I have not had any kickstand issues. On a regular basis, I will put the stand down, tilt the entire bike off of the ground and spin it 180 degrees to get out of the storage, Maybe it's a different OEM stand.
Every time you do this breakdown of likes and dislikes, you get so much better at it!! Honda needs to put you on the payroll 💯. That part about the issues and solutions with Camel Adv...Our buddy up in Calgary owes you a lunch or two!! True love knows no limit to how much you will farkel and enjoy every bit of it. 😂
watched your love/hate videos and agreee with your opinions 100%. Wish i had tuned into them before buying my 2020 AT DCT as I am very disappoinnted that the tires require tubes, if I knew this before I would have never purchased one. I 've already had a flat tire at 700 miles on the front. i regret buying this bike
I have a goldwing. Honda makes a good bike for sure. I can take it on many adventures, but I do have to avoid those gravel roads...and places like Canada or really rural parts of the USA do make adventure biking attractive.
Hi my friend, nice review. I write from Costa Rica and also own a Honda AT (2019). Mine has less than 5,000 miles due to the pandemic, but I can say it is a reliable bike with enough engine to enjoy on the road. Maybe the weak point I see is the weight, but you get used to it. Regards!
"it will do anything"...Last summer I was on a fire road and 2 guys were looking for directions on a BDR that was going through. They had come off of "Devils Gulch" trail in Washington and that challenged me on my xr400R. one was on an Africa Twin and the other was on a KTM 690 enduro.
On my 3rd Africa Twin DCT. (First two were written in not at fault incidents.) I loved it so much I bought it twice more. Bloody fantastic bike. Love it when i'm headed for somewhere 1000miles away. Or wherever. I'm 240lbs and I mount my bike by stepping on the passenger footpeg and swinging a leg over.
I’ve got a Honda Africa twin 2021 manual and I’m 5’9 and my inseam is just over 32 IN with boots. This is my first bike and I took a driving course last week. And now have my license. The bike is so huge and heavy it’s so scary turning it. The power is fine I can go shift into second and come to a clean stop. I practiced going up and down a hill no issues and stopping at an incline and going without rolling backwards got all that down. Got onto the road and practiced going and turning around within two lanes to the left and right but it’s so scary I don’t think I am going to be able to master it on this bike. In class I was doing circles at 25 mph no problem. I guess I’m gonna pay it off and sell it to buy a new one maybe I’ll be riding in a year if I’m lucky.
Had to edit this my inseam is 32 IN with boots. But I ordered a kit that’ll lower the front and back 50 MM and a seat that takes off 30 MM So between the two I should be good. And Honda said it wouldn’t void my warranty.
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I watched a vid from Aussie and I think they and maybe some EU contries are the reason that your setting are reset everytime the bike is turned off. Dag gum gubament regulation....... Great video sir thank you
fellow big bearded dude! just getting into it thanks for your awesome videos man it really is inpiring! I am getting the Suzuki DR650 2014 3500 miles all the mods I would want and need for a big dude and common sense. My goal is to become a good rider really get into and upgrade into either an africa twin or the Yamaha Tenere I really like both the KTM 890 seems ok too but keeping it reasonably priced is still a priority I live in wester MD I wish I were closer I'd tag along for some rides!!! cheers
I just bought a used 16 model. I thought my kickstand was rather beefy, so maybe it has been replaced already. It is really heavy if you are off of the bike and pushing it around. Feels a lot heavier than it is. Not as bad when I am riding it.
Badly hurt my back trying to lift up my 2018 AT. I am a slim guy and u definitely should practice how to lift it beforehand in case u drop it in the woods, unless u r an athletic person. Or else u cant really go solo off-road.
Wait , so you won`t forget to turn on the ABS when you hit pavement and its not inconvenient, but turning it off when you get of-road is a hassle ? How does that make sense?
Oh look another complaint about ABS that resets or can't be turned on/off while moving. *IT IS A SAFETY REQUIREMENT ON ALL BIKES FFS*. IT IS NOT A "QUIRK".
I have the "18 ATAS and agree with most of your comments with the exception of the seat. I found it excruciating after an hour or so. I had to have it reupholstered by Mr. Ed's in Albany OR. On my way home from Seattle where I bought it. I opted for the DCT because I've had some issues with tennis elbow so the clutch was something I wanted to avoid. Love the bike but I'm hesitant to take off road in gnarly conditions. Whiskey throttle sounds frightening. I might look more into a front left hand brake install at some point. Anyway, I enjoy your channel. I ride through Oregon on occasion (Have family and friends in Oregon and Washington). Maybe we'll bump into one another some day.
Great video!!! I think you've convinced me to possibly get a Honda AT... where were these videos clips filmed? I'm wondering where I can ride in eastern PA.
The 21” front wheel, while useful and appealing to many, is what’s keeping me from purchasing an AT. To this end, and before I buy a KTM Adventure S, I urge Honda to make a primarily road oriented version of the AT!
As an update, at 70 (now 72) I bought a AT DCT and have ridden it a tad under 30 000 kilometers. Still want the new lower version with 19” front wheel, but the one I have does everything I want - great bike!
Good video but there are a few things that are subjectively incorrect in this video... The seat is NOT comfortable at all. Slow speed man-handling is fine. It is heavy but not that heavy, it's fine.
Hmm having yam XT 600 e for 13 years and at for one year ...at is very good two up . Stable but not for really crazy off-road (alone) only thing what worries me is air filter but . Has bee deciding between At and t7 and gone with AT . T 700 is not very good two up and still heavier than a Thumper. Just added bars and Puig screen and it's a blast (not Very powerful but Smooth ride) sill when I want more technical off-road I chose the XT.
Love your honest videos. Interested in buying the AT, but still a bit freaked out about having a tube blowout at highways speed. "I've watched your video on you repairing a flat, but that was low speed squiggly, but it still went flat quickly). Do you worry about a blowout on the highway?
Has any reviewer EVER not said about a heavy bike: "but once you get going, it doesn't feel heavy"... yeah, no shit. That's not what people worry about.
Loooove my 2016 as well. I got the DCT version, mostly because I just wanted to try something different. I expected to like it much less than I do. It took some getting used to, but it’s great, so capable. Great video about a fun bike.
I just got back from an 11 state 10 national park tour from Seattle with Durango being the half way point sort of. I was on an 2013 R1200GSA and could not imagine having such a small wind screen. 11 days out and 10 were riding and I logged 4,151 miles. I would have been beat to death from the wind that that AT let get past. How's the wind on the highway, say at 90 mph? Great video. Thank you.
There's your problem.... slow down to 70 - 75 and the wind might not bother you so much. Energy squares with the velocity. Then you'd only be beat half to death.
I just read that countries like Australia are legislating ABS needs to be active each time the bike is restarted, this year. They've also mandated the majority of dual and adventure bikes require ABS. How many other countries have followed these measures, or will follow? Perhaps this pain in the ass feature will support a better resale in the future? Anyone's guess, but I agree on the inconvenience. How did we ever get down a road/trail for 100 years without legislated nannies, eh, lol 🇨🇦
Pick my DCT African twin up a week ago 75 years old haven’t ridden for years. Bike is amazing unbelievable never a test drive I just bought it without riding it. The DCT learned how I wanted to shift I’ve been driving slow speed on back roads it doesn’t go directly into six gear . Until I want to go fast. This bike is much better than I could’ve imagined.from Quebec Canada
Just read your comment today, March 24, 2023 - PEI, Canada. I’ve ridden for 50+ years (70 now) and have a few bikes. Just bought an Africa Twin DCT but haven’t ridden it yet. Just wondering how you got along with yours?
DCT doesn’t learn how a rider wants to shift. It’s behavior is dictated by what mode it’s set to, nothing more.
From Australia ❤ kept it up I’ll get it soon on Ls in two years
Fantastic to here brother. Just about to pull the trigger on a 2018 DCT in Cambodia, via Victoria BC. 60 years and holding baby. Be safe and thank you for the vote of encouragement on an AT.
@@jamesreed5362 As a 72 year old AT rider in 2024, I’d love to hear an update.
I have a 2017 and love it. Bought it down in Mexico because we live down there at least half the year. Put it in the back of the truck back in 2019 and drove to Oregon where I left it. Went back down to Mexico and bought a 2020 Adventure sport with dual clutch this time. They have made many changes along the way and as happy as I was with the 2017 I am twice as happy now. Love the dual clutch, The new frame that sits much lower, electrical outlet plus usb outlets, heated grips, so many options on the electronics for your ride. And more great bike and at age 75 I have riden a lot of bikes over the years but this 2020 is so far above the rest. WoW
Surprised cartel hasn't stolen the truck and bike
@@protectork9831 that has been exaggerated. South side of Chicago is just as bad. Need to be careful in dubious places. Mexico is not easy but you also can’t be acting like a tourist every where. There are millions of Americans Canadians snd Europeans happily retired in many places around Mexico outside of the resort areas. Check out Guanajuato, Guadalajara, Aguascalientes, Monterrey etc.
75 wow I wish I could get you a drink n hear your story,take care man
Can you compare it to a BMW 1250 GS A?
@@Asdfghjkl1234 it’s worse than Chicago
Got my first ever motorcycle 8 months ago at the age of 55.... yes, 2018 AT DCT and absolutely loved learning to ride on it and have now done 1000's of miles on it.... obsessed is an understatement!!!! Your video sums it up perfectly.
You inspired me to buy my very first bike! I wanted a dirt bike initially but don’t own a truck or trailer, so I started researching dual sports and adv bikes and decided on the ktm 390 adventure. this thing is a blast and I love I can ride it to and from the trails. Great channel, maybe an AT will be a major upgrade for me later down the road 🌲
Own 2016/17 Africa Twin in Japan. No stand problems. Do have center stand installed. I do little off-road stuff and use the bike as an excellent touring machine. Yes, comfortable. Excellent machine and mine with DCT.
If you turn it off at the Red Cutoff switch instead of the key .. it keeps the settings like ABS and Wheelie Control Off ! (There are a few other bikes that this applies for also) Fine for a short stop to take a photo or a toilet stop. BUt from memory it leaves the DRLs on so not good for long time stop.
Just bought a demo 2020 CRF1100L, loving it, so much power on tap and as you say once rolling it feels nice and nimble. New one is lighter than old model, I don't find it too bad to wheel around the garage.
I love my 17 AT. I've put 1800 miles on it in the last month and a half. Crash bars and new skid plate go on this weekend.
Enjoy your upgrades!
I’ve been riding for 45 years straight and absolutely love my ‘19 AT. Thanks for a great video
Dct?
No, manual clutch
Its NOT just you. I’m 68, and bought a new 2019 in May of 2020, sight unseen in Arkansas on my way home to Illinois from Arizona. Got 17.8k miles on it now. It’s a handful to maneuver around slowly. I’ve dropped it a number of times, and was pinned under it 3 times, on a group ride, luckily, I had help. When it’s up to speed it’s sheer delight. I have realized that the bike is too big and heavy for me to scout out sketchy back road trails by myself anymore. I just bought a CRF 250 L for that, and it’s wonderful. When I hop back on the Africa twin, after a few days of the 250, I realize what a gorgeous machine it is. I hope to find some thing in between those two, and just have one bike for everything.
I agree with everything you said. It's why I have the AT and a DRZ.
Btw, I’m very much enjoying your channel, and wish I’d seen this video before buying. Might have made a difference. I’d been waiting for the T7 to hit the states, but got tired of the wait and got super deal on the AT. Now that I finished the last few minutes of your video, I made a few edits to hopefully, clarify my post.
Thanks so much for watching and enjoying!
Glad to hear at 75 still riding and appreciate the 2017 eval. Looking at one now. Currently riding the trusty DRZ400s and an XR600R through the AZ desert at 62. Altho the XR can get me unto trouble, lol. Stay safe!!
I also find the stock seat comfortable. Test rode both the AT and a Gold Wing F6B within 15 minutes of each other. I’d always had back problems and/or sore butt requiring either an aftermarket seat, a backrest or both to ride any length of time comfortably. Was shocked to find the Gold Wing uncomfortable and the AT comfortable. I’m now 75 and still own a ‘17 AT DCT. Admittedly, now use an AirHawk cushion with so little air in it one would think it was deflated....but hours in the saddle are accomplished with little or no discomfort. Love that bike and the DCT but it is getting to be a handful.
I just rode my first africa twin earlier today and I will say that your riding skills and mine are at very different ends of spectrum
I've done 127,000 klms on my 16 manual. We've ridden from Australia, through Asia to Europe and North Africa two up over 3 1/2 years. I can't agree about the seat. For me it was a shocker. Some of the best money i spent on the bike was replacing the seat. (replacing the suspension, although expensive was also money well spent) Other issues are the front spokes along with corroding they will work loose. Keep an eye on them. The front disc carrier's where they make contact with the bobbins will most likely flog out prematurely. Usually the right, but can also be the left. Honda have replaced many under warranty. If you ride heavily loaded or in wet and dusty conditions, then the rear right wheel bearing can fail in as little as 20,000 klms. If you are mostly on pavement then you'll get at least twice this. I've adapted a double row ball bearing, problem fixed. Hmm, what else. Oh, my battery lasted problem free until 120,000 klms, so not bothered about the location. In any case I don't really find it an issue. When first released these bikes were relatively cheap compared to their competition. To achieve this Honda cut corners on some aspects of the bike. The obvious areas being the suspension and spokes to name but two. Oh and the side stand, your right about that. It's made of cheese. Although having said that, mine hasn't snapped yet. But I don't mount the bike by standing on the peg first. That will definately break the side stand, especially if you are on the rotund side.The original pegs belong on a PeeWee 50. So change those to your preferred brand. Pivot pegs for me. So far the cross bar above the instuments have lasted trouble free, all this time with a Garmin LM590 hanging off of it, lucky I guess. If you are mostly on the tarmac i wouldn't be concerned. But yes many have snapped. But the major componatry is solid. I've only adjusted the two inboard exhaust valves for example. If we were riding solo, we'd be on much lighter bikes. I think the CRF300 would be a far better choice for long term RTW travel (solo). I might sound like I don't like the bike. I do, but you need to recognise it's faults and limitations. This bike and it's peers are all far too heavy and have waaaaay too much electronic gimmicks for my liking. Fortunately the 16/17's wern't burdened with too much electronics. All a bit long winded I know, but I think I have a bit to offer on this bike. More info found here if you are at all inclined. advrider.com/f/threads/rtw-on-a-h-a-t-in-the-slow-lane.1172713/
Dct?
Excellent info thanks
YOur beard lured me in, the channel name resonated with me... Excite bike intro was the last nail in the coffin.
I've got a 2016 and everything you said w the exception of having a large fuel tank is spot on. I've got one and have 35,000 mi on it. With moderate riding skills, it's perfect for forestry roads and 2-track. I've had 800 mile days on the saddle without any problem. It corners like a road bike and will easily keep pace with street bikes even w 50/50 tires. My only real complaint? No cruise control. If you ride a lot of miles, you'll appreciate even something as simple as a throttle lock. Oh, and tubeless tires. ADV bikes are not dirt bikes. Tubeless wheels would be plenty strong for 99% of anyone who would take a 500# bike loaded with camp gear offroad.
The latest model (2022) has tubeless tires. :)
One thing to remember if you have the DCT model is to make sure it’s in neutral when you switch it off, otherwise you have clutch drag which makes the bike seem even heavier than it is. Thanks for the video 👍
Doesn't the bike do this automatically? I had always assumed so, anyway, from the provision of the parking brake and the fact that you have to put it in gear after you start it back up. Is it somehow keeping the clutch disengaged when it's off, and then shifting to neutral when you start again? Or how's that work?
Love my 2017 as well . Smooth power and very capable in the dirt . Have the same mods as well on my AF and added a booster sensor on my air intake to see how good they work. Very happy how it works.
I also have a 2016 Africa Twin purchased off the dealer floor in April 2017. Had a $1,000 off sale that month. It is my second brand new motorcycle in my life. The first was an XL-250 I bought in May 1974.
My very first motorcycle was a 1965 Honda CA95 Benly Touring ("Baby Dream") 125 cc. Drove it 135 miles each way weekends when I started college (until it got cold). While in the service, I bought a used 1970 Honda CL175. I bought the XL-250 as I on terminal leave. Sorry I sold that XL-250.
1986 BMW R80 RT then swapped if with his nephew for a
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took some time to adjust to the seat height and weight. Purchased the Honda lower seat, then a Sargent lower seat. I have a bit more mass to spread out on the seat. The more I rode it, the more confident I became with stopping in traffic when the road slopes the "wrong" way.
Maneuveringaneuvers in parking lots when I have the time.
For the few times I will actively go off onto trails and more technical riding, I did find another 1974 XL-250. It does need some "attention" but not too much. It won't be my daily ride. But I did notice that I could almost "flat-foot" when stopped. AND the seat is much more comfortable than the current CRF250L/CRF300L.
I have been very happy with my Africa Twin. Other than adding crash bars (I dropped the bike twice - both times in my driveway after installing the crash bars, not before), wider foot pegs, and a lithium battery, the bike is mostly stock.
Growing up on dirt bikes.
Been on big Harleys as an adult.
My friend took me to test ride an AT this weekend before he bought it. As he hasn't rode in a while.
Even the guy selling was saying it was heavy. When I got on it, I was blown away that it felt so light.
I took off, and just started riding like my old BMX days. I felt like I could do anything on.
Came back in with an Endo. I stress tested the shit out it.
I felt in love with it. Now I'm planning on getting one.
Now his is a DCT. That took some getting used to. It's fine, but never really felt like I had 100% control.
So I'm going to look for a normal Clutch version.
I'm 40 years old, my knees are shoot from a very physical life and this bike just felt right. I don't really understand why heavy even comes to mind for people on the AT.
@@vikingkombat9389 Because you are used to super heavy Harleys
@@diegovillacrez8349 Perhaps, or people need more leg days in the gym.
Just ordered a 2022 Adventure Sport ES DCT Africa Twin.
Can't wait!
Oh, it's January. Looks like I'm gonna be waiting.
Great review. Had a 2017 and a 2019, both were amazing. I agree about the weight, once you get going it feels like a 450lbs bike at most, power wheelies in 2nd gear which is kind of surprising when you look at the power to weight ratio.
At 6'1" I couldn't stand the stock seat (weird angle that doesn't seem to affect shorter riders). Also I wish Honda tried to simplify the maintenance. The valve check at 25000km is too soon and quite a project (8h for a Honda technician if adjustments are needed), Yamaha generally recommend valve checks way over 40000km and I know someone who put 200000km on a super tenere without ever even checking the valves. Even the air filter is not quick to get too, just too many plastics covering everything (it took about 2 minutes to change the air filter on my Honda Nighthawk and that was a road bike, why would you want to make the access harder on an adventure bike?). Aside from that, just one of the best all round bikes out there. I've seen a rider put 500000km on his...
Excellent bike, had 2 2016 DCTs and now waiting for my 2023 manual ATAS
I bought my AT (2016) three years ago, and having put almost 20,000 miles on it since, I can attest to the truth of everything you said. I love riding it. But I am seriously thinking of getting a second smaller bike to build my off-road skills. There are so many places around here where I think I might get into trouble with a 500lb+ bike. Not to mention my driveway, which is steep and I must share with two cars.
My 2017 AT is my first bike. I bought it before I even had a learner's license. I now have 5573 kms (3463 miles) on it and I love it so much. It was a pain in the arse to get licenced during Covid but worth every second I had to wait.
Moving the bike around is all relative. For my 68 year old body it’s a cakewalk compared to my Yamaha fjr. Agree with crazy battery position. Riding this bike is fun! 1000 ccs is the perfect engine. 😊
I had a 2017, all in all it was a good bike but the suspension and weight forced me to move on. For those that don't ride aggressively off-road it's a fantastic ADV bike and a pleasure to ride on the highway.
What did you end up going with?
@@rdspice2 KTM 890 Adventure R, couldn’t be happier.
I own a 22 africa twin standard im 6' 208 lbs I have no issues with this bike and it's rider preference and you can build a bike for individuals . I take it everywhere it's a go anywhere do anything bike and love mine have 14k miles but wish honda would make a 1200 africa twin
Subbed. Interested in this bike, you are a great resource I've found this morning. Thank you.
Thanks for the sub. It's a fantastic bike, IMHO
I love my 2016 AT, put over 55k on it since 2018.
I have one gripe you didn't mention, the front forks need work for any kind of serious offroad. Also there is a design flaw with the fork walls and they will bind up over time. The fix is to replace the outer fork bodies with the 2019 ATAS bodies.
Other than that and the other two things you mentioned this bike is as capable as anything else out there and its ultra reliable.
Yeah the fork binding thing is really annoying and surprising, for sure.
@@DorkintheRoad people have said the same thing could happen on any bike, its part of the deal when running off road I suppose. Whats surprising to me is that even on regular street use people say the same problems. The fix is pretty easy IMO, every rider should be able/know how to change out fork oil seals and replacing the fork bodies is simple as it all comes apart at that stage.
Plus the new ones look cool AF as that dark bronze color really pops against the silver paint we have on our 16's
Number one reason why I haven’t test ridden an AT yet.....I already have the “I wants”, if I rode it.....they would become unbearable. 🤣
I agree, it’s a great bike. But it’s at least 100 lbs too heavy. I rented one and went for a trip (5.000-5.500 miles). It was perfect on the highway, nice on gravel roads, but way to bulky for any technical riding, especially solo, like I did. Once you’re down, you’re stucked. It’s the same problem, like with the fat GS’es.
100lbs?? With the added fuel on my 2018 ATAS it is a beast but while riding it still feel very nimble. If you want to drop 100lbs you will need to go with the Yamaha Tenere 700 which is a great bike and you only lose two things IMO. #1 - Not as good with a passenger #2 - It is not a Africa Twin :)
I have the 2017, I'm surprised you didn't mention the stock pegs, they're comically small, had to upgrade those right away, every time I put the kickstand down and watch it flex😬...but most of all I also fell in love with the bike in the first couple miles, couldn't wipe the grin off my face
I picked up my ATAS in 2018, it's my primary ride, the Honda is such a blast to ride anywhere. Did a upstate NY to New Mexico and back ride with no issues on any type of roads. My first major change was to swapped out the stock rims for Rally Raid tubeless. Did cost some $ but definitely a stronger rim. Really enjoy your videos.
Are the rally raids tubeless?
@@ShooterMedic1818 yes. Main reason I got them.
Nice review. Have the Honda NC700X - looking now at the 2016-2019 AT’s. Thanks
Just found your channel, fellow Dork. I'm in - subscribed.
Great video!
I have a 19 and agree. Saturday layed mine down in fine gravel.. it sucks to crash on pavement! Wish I had more gear on than just a helmet. Roadrash hurts!
This is the best motorcycle. I really want one like this.
It feels easier to maneuver around (in some ways) than my DR650. I can lean it over way further and not worry about dropping it. The clutch and steering lock are so amazing it is also easy to 'push' around with the engine assisting.
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@@BikerBytes Might be a perception thing - The DR isn't that heavy, so should be easy to maneuver - but isn't. The AT is heavy so you think it will be really hard to maneuver - but isn't. OR I might just be a weirdo :)
@@campbellrousselle9752 I used to ride an F800GS but found it way to heavy (for me) when doing single or difficult tracks especially at low speed and so after dropping it a few times I moved to the DR and never looked back. So much better (for me). I agree, at speed, sure no problems but I wouldn't take such a large bike through narly tracks. ATB Jason.
@@BikerBytes Yep, we'll see how I feel when I do knarlier stuff. I might not be quite so cocky then. I'll send you a link if I do some good tracks and film it :) Might be a good vid of me struggling and wishing for something lighter LOL
@@campbellrousselle9752 yeah, I didn't want to give up the 800 as it was a good bike and great for long haul trips and gravel roads etc but the last drop was enough to convince me it wasn't the bike for me no matter how good it was. The DR opened up a new world and I'm enjoying every moment!
Very good review, appreciated, Honda African Twin is also my dream bike. I am working and saving to get one.
The whole weight thing is a tradeoff for every type of motorcycle. The question is do you want the mass for momentum or not. It's great at faster speeds for pot holes with proper suspension. But terrible if your falling over or going less than 5 mph much of the time such as going through dense woods. If your going distance on dirt roads it's great.
Fabulous video I bought my Africa Twin DCT 2017 a year ago they are awesome bikes subbed and liked
Yes the AT is heavy. Of course adding many up grades increased the weight. I purchased a 2019 CB500X and many modes to it includ Rally Raid shocks and wheels and T-Rex skid plate and bars. Honda has a NT1100 out based on the AT for tour but talking to dealers here in Washington it is not coming here and dealers have no interest in carrying it. Their market is the fast crouch rockets that not used for road trips and wheelies. So Installed road type tires and use the AT for touring. I now have Tusk hard cases that can be locked and not the Mosko Moto soft bag the 500x is my off road bike. Idaho and Utah BDR. They both more work than Washington BDR.
I have to say I enjoy the stock seat as well. I swapped the kickstand and added the windscreen brace to mine as well. The real thing people need to know before purchasing is that you’ll also be buying a laundry list of aftermarket parts too haha..... so better plan for that too.
You really feel the wait when it falls over in the mud. I have the Sports DCT, and I'm thinking about getting a jack to help me lift it up. It rides great but when you tip it over it's like a Sherman tank.
DITR! Nice review and, as a 2017 AT owner with 10K, I 100% concur with you assessment. I bought it because I needed one bike to do everything and it does all well. Look forward to riding with you and Ryan some time soon. Kelly "Odie" Odegaard, Salem
Great video, just picked up a Matt black 2020 model, I was very close to buying a GS but once I’d road tested the AT my mind was made up. Still getting to grips with the TFT & apple car play 😂😂. Looking forward to going off road.
I’ve got 40K on my 2017 AT and the forks are fine. I don’t have any Stiction issues people have complained about. Also, the 2016 is the second gen of the Africa twin moniker. The first gen was a 750 that Honda built for the Dakar.
I have a 2019 CRF1000L Standard Africa Twin and I have not had any kickstand issues. On a regular basis, I will put the stand down, tilt the entire bike off of the ground and spin it 180 degrees to get out of the storage, Maybe it's a different OEM stand.
Every time you do this breakdown of likes and dislikes, you get so much better at it!! Honda needs to put you on the payroll 💯. That part about the issues and solutions with Camel Adv...Our buddy up in Calgary owes you a lunch or two!! True love knows no limit to how much you will farkel and enjoy every bit of it. 😂
watched your love/hate videos and agreee with your opinions 100%. Wish i had tuned into them before buying my 2020 AT DCT as I am very disappoinnted that the tires require tubes, if I knew this before I would have never purchased one. I 've already had a flat tire at 700 miles on the front. i regret buying this bike
I have a goldwing. Honda makes a good bike for sure. I can take it on many adventures, but I do have to avoid those gravel roads...and places like Canada or really rural parts of the USA do make adventure biking attractive.
Hi my friend, nice review. I write from Costa Rica and also own a Honda AT (2019). Mine has less than 5,000 miles due to the pandemic, but I can say it is a reliable bike with enough engine to enjoy on the road. Maybe the weak point I see is the weight, but you get used to it. Regards!
"it will do anything"...Last summer I was on a fire road and 2 guys were looking for directions on a BDR that was going through. They had come off of "Devils Gulch" trail in Washington and that challenged me on my xr400R. one was on an Africa Twin and the other was on a KTM 690 enduro.
On my 3rd Africa Twin DCT. (First two were written in not at fault incidents.) I loved it so much I bought it twice more.
Bloody fantastic bike. Love it when i'm headed for somewhere 1000miles away. Or wherever.
I'm 240lbs and I mount my bike by stepping on the passenger footpeg and swinging a leg over.
I’ve got a Honda Africa twin 2021 manual and I’m 5’9 and my inseam is just over 32 IN with boots. This is my first bike and I took a driving course last week. And now have my license.
The bike is so huge and heavy it’s so scary turning it. The power is fine I can go shift into second and come to a clean stop. I practiced going up and down a hill no issues and stopping at an incline and going without rolling backwards got all that down. Got onto the road and practiced going and turning around within two lanes to the left and right but it’s so scary I don’t think I am going to be able to master it on this bike. In class I was doing circles at 25 mph no problem.
I guess I’m gonna pay it off and sell it to buy a new one maybe I’ll be riding in a year if I’m lucky.
Had to edit this my inseam is 32 IN with boots. But I ordered a kit that’ll lower the front and back 50 MM and a seat that takes off 30 MM
So between the two I should be good. And Honda said it wouldn’t void my warranty.
Great video ... i just put Money down on a tenere 700 :) now the waiting begins
I did the same and still waiting. Seeing very low mileage '19 AT's pop up for less than I can get (when exactly who knows) a T7 for is difficult.
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Awesome intro bro !
I watched a vid from Aussie and I think they and maybe some EU contries are the reason that your setting are reset everytime the bike is turned off. Dag gum gubament regulation....... Great video sir thank you
And yes she’ll get you there and back and you’ll love her the more. What about DCT?
fellow big bearded dude! just getting into it thanks for your awesome videos man it really is inpiring! I am getting the Suzuki DR650 2014 3500 miles all the mods I would want and need for a big dude and common sense. My goal is to become a good rider really get into and upgrade into either an africa twin or the Yamaha Tenere I really like both the KTM 890 seems ok too but keeping it reasonably priced is still a priority I live in wester MD I wish I were closer I'd tag along for some rides!!! cheers
Thanks for watching! My goal is to inspire others to get out there and ride. I'm glad to hear it's working!
I appreciate this review
I appreciate your comment
I own the 2018 ATAS...really put a smile on my face..hahahaha
I am behind you on the the battery placement.
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Great video
Cool T shirt...
I just bought a used 16 model. I thought my kickstand was rather beefy, so maybe it has been replaced already. It is really heavy if you are off of the bike and pushing it around. Feels a lot heavier than it is. Not as bad when I am riding it.
Good review! Agree!👍
Thanks for watching!
Im a new rider and currently riding svartpilen 701. I really want to own aftica twin
I have a 17. Agree
Badly hurt my back trying to lift up my 2018 AT. I am a slim guy and u definitely should practice how to lift it beforehand in case u drop it in the woods, unless u r an athletic person. Or else u cant really go solo off-road.
There's techniques for getting heavy bikes up. Look at all the people riding enormous BMW GSA's offroad. Loads of videos out there.
@@opmike343 To be fair, those heads do the hardest part of the job which is non-existant on those bikes.
Wait , so you won`t forget to turn on the ABS when you hit pavement and its not inconvenient, but turning it off when you get of-road is a hassle ?
How does that make sense?
The only problem with me getting one of these is my height I'm 5'5 short. I rode heavy bikes before like almost 900 lbs so I can handle 500 lbs.
Oh look another complaint about ABS that resets or can't be turned on/off while moving. *IT IS A SAFETY REQUIREMENT ON ALL BIKES FFS*. IT IS NOT A "QUIRK".
You ride slow, and your breath stinks
I owned same africa and believe me compared to 790/890 ktm adventure it does feel very heavy !!!! Just to let you know not to put any fights here ;)
I have the "18 ATAS and agree with most of your comments with the exception of the seat. I found it excruciating after an hour or so. I had to have it reupholstered by Mr. Ed's in Albany OR. On my way home from Seattle where I bought it. I opted for the DCT because I've had some issues with tennis elbow so the clutch was something I wanted to avoid. Love the bike but I'm hesitant to take off road in gnarly conditions. Whiskey throttle sounds frightening. I might look more into a front left hand brake install at some point.
Anyway, I enjoy your channel. I ride through Oregon on occasion (Have family and friends in Oregon and Washington). Maybe we'll bump into one another some day.
That's interesting. I can ride on it for hours with no problems. Maybe they changed the seat in the newer models?
I doubt it. I've got a pretty boney ass. Not saying you don't.
i wasn't crazy about the stock seat but I bought the low version and I think it is okay.
I had to fit the higher seat. Who'd be a bike designer. 😂
You sure the seller meant the Africa Twin when he said "prepare to fall in love"? Maybe he had other ideas for later.
I never said what happened when I got back...
Probably made a mess of the exhaust! Don't ask me how I know!!😅😄😃🤣
Great video!!! I think you've convinced me to possibly get a Honda AT... where were these videos clips filmed? I'm wondering where I can ride in eastern PA.
I live in Oregon
The 21” front wheel, while useful and appealing to many, is what’s keeping me from purchasing an AT. To this end, and before I buy a KTM Adventure S, I urge Honda to make a primarily road oriented version of the AT!
Just get a 19" front wheel built I think even rally raid even sell one of their list of parts. Completely transformed the bike into a tourer
Honestly it isn't a problem,I find it very manoeuvrable once you get used to it,practice counter steering until its second nature.
As an update, at 70 (now 72) I bought a AT DCT and have ridden it a tad under 30 000 kilometers. Still want the new lower version with 19” front wheel, but the one I have does everything I want - great bike!
Good video but there are a few things that are subjectively incorrect in this video...
The seat is NOT comfortable at all.
Slow speed man-handling is fine. It is heavy but not that heavy, it's fine.
Hmm having yam XT 600 e for 13 years and at for one year ...at is very good two up . Stable but not for really crazy off-road (alone) only thing what worries me is air filter but . Has bee deciding between At and t7 and gone with AT . T 700 is not very good two up and still heavier than a Thumper. Just added bars and Puig screen and it's a blast (not Very powerful but Smooth ride) sill when I want more technical off-road I chose the XT.
All they need to know is it's a Honda. Follow the leader......he's on a Honda. Nuff said.
Still have to say if your gonna get the atas, dont get the dct if your gonna do mostly off road. Keep wishing i had a clutch.
Love your honest videos. Interested in buying the AT, but still a bit freaked out about having a tube blowout at highways speed. "I've watched your video on you repairing a flat, but that was low speed squiggly, but it still went flat quickly). Do you worry about a blowout on the highway?
Has any reviewer EVER not said about a heavy bike: "but once you get going, it doesn't feel heavy"... yeah, no shit. That's not what people worry about.
When did screen bracket change on ATAS? My 2018 seems fine.
Bought a 2021 ATAS with the electronic suspension. It is amazing. Expensive but it fixes most of the issues with the older ones .
Loooove my 2016 as well. I got the DCT version, mostly because I just wanted to try something different.
I expected to like it much less than I do. It took some getting used to, but it’s great, so capable.
Great video about a fun bike.
An actual useful review, thank you!
What about air cleaner access? other than the weight, its the worst part of the bike for me.
i get what your saying about the kick stand. I too bought the Camel kick stand. To be fair, a lot of bikes come with shitty kick stands.
ABS setting features are the way they are due to the law. Manufacturers can't change that.
Only thing I needed to know. Is it V4? No?
Yea stock seat is very good if it wasn't as high. The battery is a joke to get to. Yes put it under the seat
How about 2021 model ?
I just got back from an 11 state 10 national park tour from Seattle with Durango being the half way point sort of. I was on an 2013 R1200GSA and could not imagine having such a small wind screen. 11 days out and 10 were riding and I logged 4,151 miles. I would have been beat to death from the wind that that AT let get past. How's the wind on the highway, say at 90 mph? Great video. Thank you.
There's your problem.... slow down to 70 - 75 and the wind might not bother you so much. Energy squares with the velocity. Then you'd only be beat half to death.
I just read that countries like Australia are legislating ABS needs to be active each time the bike is restarted, this year. They've also mandated the majority of dual and adventure bikes require ABS. How many other countries have followed these measures, or will follow? Perhaps this pain in the ass feature will support a better resale in the future? Anyone's guess, but I agree on the inconvenience. How did we ever get down a road/trail for 100 years without legislated nannies, eh, lol 🇨🇦