Really nicely played there. The Hippogryphs are an interesting pick, and potentially good one too. High mass, good AP values, they’re expensive but an unexpected counter to beastmen infantry from ungors to bestigors. I think I’d like to give them a try next time I play into this matchup. Great find
@@mattj790 Only problem with Dwarfs is that they have a lot more access to accurate and harder to dodge artillery and firearms ranged units. The best thing beastman can bring is a few ungor raiders.
So hippogryphs moved from meme neighborhood to the serious bussiness one? Also great battle, back and forth, where both opponents keeps commandind tattered but still formidable fighting force and micro skillz are at line.
I love this video, my favorite faction kicking the ass of that ugly beastmen. 210 kills of the Royal Hippogryph Knights, omg. They are a very strong unit If you can microgestionate it correctly.
Really cool to see the hippogryph knights used well and not like a meme! Btw: the wardens of montford also have 5 more ranged damage AND poison over the standard unit :)
Hi Turin, l'm bobbie 91. The bretonnian portion of the thumbnail is my Phone screensaver since, after 2 years of campaign, my grail knight character finished archaon splitting his skull in two at the end of an rpg campaign in the whfb "dungeons and dragons" (sorry but i don know the english version title)...love you
LMAO hey Turin did you know that if you give a move command to a Beast caster as she/he fires off an Amber Spear at just the right moment, the shot still goes off but the spell isn't put on cooldown and doesn't cost any winds of magic? It JUST happened to me in campaign with this vid in the background, I haven't been able to replicate it. I imagine it triggers wild heart too.
I always feel like Turin forgets that charge bonus adds itself to Melee Attack AND weapon strength on a charge. So while 46 melee attack on RHK isnt great, whenever they charge, *which is pretty much all that they do) they effectively have 96 melee attack and 185 weapon strength. Add on the Fay Enchantress buff and they have nearly 150 melee attack during the first 3-4 seconds of combat.
Me before the video: With that kind of title I better be impressed or I'm gonna need Anti-Heresy Spray Future me: I s it me or have all the recent vids by Warhammer youtubers have something to do with rocks of some kind
I just want to say, that i would not like to be a footsoldier in the Bretonnian armies. Neither peasant or knight. The permanent fear of getting pooped on by Pegasus or Hyppogrifs is way to high and really disgusting. Keep it safe! Be a dwarf!
Last cygor spawn was wasted. Beastman player should've held the line around him, so that he could actually throw. Instead he chased, and the few throws the Cygor got in were misses against flying units. Ugh, he had it if he'd played it right.
@Turin Thank you for the awesome videos! Can you please elaborate on why Bretonnian artillery is considered to be one of the worst in game? Do you think they should be changed in some way?
Hyppogriph knigth is such a cool unit (my top one in tgis game with the carnosaur), sometime i would love to play them all the time, but against some faction i feel lile there cost doesn't match what they can do (lile the carno), they can be heasly counter, not in this battle howerver ;)
So what’s the late game strategy when your opponent has the mobility advantage and you’re limited to infantry? I’ve been in the Beastmen player’s position a lot where my opponent is just running circles and picking off straggling units. Do you consolidate and just stay put or should you try to chase them around and hope for a good pick? Would love to hear your guy’s thoughts!
They need to do a real stamina update to the game. When your forces are exhausted they should not be able to full sprint everywhere still and fight like it’s nothing. They should be extremely slower and have like zero fight left in them.
Hey Turin, how do you get the beastmen, norscan, wood elf and WoC & brettonian RoRs? I have had the DLCs since Total War Warhammer 1, but for some reason I don't have the regiments of renown. I have tried uninstalling the DLCs on steam, as well as deleting and re-installing the main game, but nothing seems to work.
Foot squares almost never worth their cost. In this game you can pick halberds and have much better AP\AntiLarge unit. Also yes indeed - archers in tight formation easy to rotate and shoot, but they are easy target aswell, espacially for any aoe attacks. In this situation its better to spread units of archers to noodle formation. Good game anyway.
@Turin isn't it pointless to compare RoR with their counterparts if they aren't levelep ut to tier 9 as well, like yeah level 9 has better melee stats then levl one
@Turin Also i just found out you have a health problem with your hands that makes typing painful. Did you perhaps consider using a Voice to Text software to make typing comments, replies and similar much easier? I know such software isn't always perfect but it can still significantly reduce the amount of typing you do for comments/replies. Thank you for your work and i hope you get better soon :)
Why did you make a video with the royal hips . "Worst units in Warhammer" But yet they're being used Here In online , and you're making them sound too be really good . I'm confused with this , please explain
Turin thanks for the speedy reply , did not mean too come off as rude , I should of checked date before asking, I just started too watch your videos . Your Warhammer tournaments have lured me :O very entertaining .
One thing that I keep seeing over and over again on total war: Warhammer videos are when people play as Bretonnia; hardly anybody uses their calvary. Just tosses down their extremely poor ( at least in table top) infantry and their archers. Is the game mechanics just that much different that Bretonnia calvary isn't the stupid powerhouse it is supposed to be? Or do most people just not play them that way and that is why in most videos I see how Bretonnia is the weakest faction?
People expect grail knights - so no one picks them in high level play. They're expensive, and easy to counter. The cygors would have done a number on them, for sure. That being said, they are very strong in game. Just them existing makes other factions try to counter them, and in doing so leave themselves open to other strategies.
Awesome match and commentary, but I wish you'd upload some of the matches you lose as well - it's less exciting to watch the game knowing you only ever upload your wins.
I just figured out that the only beastman throwing rocks from a long distance is the one with no depth perception whatsoever.
What is even funnier is that the Cygor's 1 eye only sees the Winds of Magic, so its sight is even more fucked up than one would think.
When you throw big enough boulder, you are bound to hit something
Peasants are the real MVP. Paying taxes, farming the land, and then killing Cygors after dinner.
8:05 "The *noble* peasants of Bretonnia..."
Bretonnian Noble: Sacré bleu!!!
That Cygor strategy really Rocks! But countering with Hippogryphs was a Boulder approach!
You have Red Tag's seal of approval.
*slaps knee* what you did there, I see it!!!
7:42 That hippogryph knight takes a massive ERECT boulder straight to the face, and barely flinches. Absolute hero of the people.
Renz tis but a scratch
Really nicely played there. The Hippogryphs are an interesting pick, and potentially good one too. High mass, good AP values, they’re expensive but an unexpected counter to beastmen infantry from ungors to bestigors. I think I’d like to give them a try next time I play into this matchup. Great find
They seem to shine over grail knights against dwarfs too. Huge AP, no anti-large, and have enough mass to escape blobs of Slayers.
Not to mention dwarves resist 25% grail dmg, 50%+ with rune priest on the anvil.
They're too stubborn to believe in that magic stuffs.
@@mattj790 Only problem with Dwarfs is that they have a lot more access to accurate and harder to dodge artillery and firearms ranged units. The best thing beastman can bring is a few ungor raiders.
They were always good. One of the top units overall I would say. The amount of beating they can take is hard to believe for a flyer.
So hippogryphs moved from meme neighborhood to the serious bussiness one? Also great battle, back and forth, where both opponents keeps commandind tattered but still formidable fighting force and micro skillz are at line.
I love this video, my favorite faction kicking the ass of that ugly beastmen.
210 kills of the Royal Hippogryph Knights, omg. They are a very strong unit If you can microgestionate it correctly.
210 kills but don't forget 2 of them were gorebulls, 2 were cygors, and 1 more on Malagor if you count him shattering.
They netted well over 4000 cost worth in damage.
@@mattj790 That was so amazing, they bring the victory to Bretonnia by themselves practically.
All the game I was thinking you were going to lose man but you took that victory in the end, awesome battle, keep it up!
Cheers!
I was wondering what kind of person would dislike this, but then I realized there's a grumpy stunty who's always looking for more dwarf content.
One of the more exciting matches I've seen, great stuff!
Best use of the Hippogryph Knights I've seen yet! They used to really be underwhelming; it's awesome to see them shine
I am a simple man, I see a Turin video, I click
5:20 "now my mounted yeoman archers are just sitting, they're happy" *MOUNTED YEOMEN TAKE MASSIVE BOULDER TO THE FACE*
1:21 in a bug is spotted. The MYA shows attacked by artillery as the rock is thrown, not as it hit. Showing the target in advance to react if quick
Every time you zoomed in on the action I was waiting for a surprise gorebull charge, but you felled those glorified cows for the lady!
it's very nice to see some gameplays with "unordinary" units, like RHK
Great battle! So close. Well played by both of you
The Royal Hippogryph Knights might just be my favorite unit in the game.
You sir, don't know the Steam Tank
Dude how did you learn how to commentate like that. Did you practice? This is top tier stuff.
TONS of practice I suppose! Go watch my first video hahaha
@@turinRTS With your attitude and dictation you could commentate the UFC and I would love it.
@@MyDoodad what you got against the UFC bruh.
@@AfghanTornado nothin bro I watch it
Really cool to see the hippogryph knights used well and not like a meme!
Btw: the wardens of montford also have 5 more ranged damage AND poison over the standard unit :)
Love it Turin, keep up the great content. Love from northern europe!
Nice match. Beastmen can be tough for Bret but I think your build was nearly perfect.
Royal Hippos bring justice.
Turin, wats up!
Watching all your vids from the wh1 era. Literally seen them all.
Hi Turin, l'm bobbie 91. The bretonnian portion of the thumbnail is my Phone screensaver since, after 2 years of campaign, my grail knight character finished archaon splitting his skull in two at the end of an rpg campaign in the whfb "dungeons and dragons" (sorry but i don know the english version title)...love you
What a game! Great playing by both you guys!
LMAO hey Turin did you know that if you give a move command to a Beast caster as she/he fires off an Amber Spear at just the right moment, the shot still goes off but the spell isn't put on cooldown and doesn't cost any winds of magic? It JUST happened to me in campaign with this vid in the background, I haven't been able to replicate it. I imagine it triggers wild heart too.
Wow might be the most tactical game I've ever seen.
BRETONNIANS, TO GLORY
I always feel like Turin forgets that charge bonus adds itself to Melee Attack AND weapon strength on a charge. So while 46 melee attack on RHK isnt great, whenever they charge, *which is pretty much all that they do) they effectively have 96 melee attack and 185 weapon strength. Add on the Fay Enchantress buff and they have nearly 150 melee attack during the first 3-4 seconds of combat.
Epic battle was indeed epic !
Turin sounds like he's talking at 1.25 TH-cam playback speed
Cygors with spears >.> 1:00
Me before the video: With that kind of title I better be impressed or I'm gonna need Anti-Heresy Spray
Future me: I s it me or have all the recent vids by Warhammer youtubers have something to do with rocks of some kind
Love the bretonnian battles
Daaamn i just love your often uploads
I just want to say, that i would not like to be a footsoldier in the Bretonnian armies. Neither peasant or knight. The permanent fear of getting pooped on by Pegasus or Hyppogrifs is way to high and really disgusting.
Keep it safe! Be a dwarf!
then youd have the perpetual fear of a gyro bombers load coming loose over top of you
@@Champion_Eternal Yes, but than you are just dead. Horsedung on the other hand. That's a far more sticky situation you'll find yourself in.
Man, I love me some Bretonnia... By far the coolest faction
What do you think of swapping the paladins for the Green Knight? I just enjoy the Green dude so I've been bringing him for fun!
Turin do you dare to use triple gold chevron chosen?
Did the Paladins lose the Guardian trait or am I missing something?
Last cygor spawn was wasted. Beastman player should've held the line around him, so that he could actually throw. Instead he chased, and the few throws the Cygor got in were misses against flying units. Ugh, he had it if he'd played it right.
Looks like Cygor spam is clogging the meta.
Once again Brettonias is saved by the knights.
@Turin
Thank you for the awesome videos!
Can you please elaborate on why Bretonnian artillery is considered to be one of the worst in game?
Do you think they should be changed in some way?
'The Clunge Wombler'... i'm presuming you don't use the word 'clunge' in the States...?
We do not!
Hyppogriph knigth is such a cool unit (my top one in tgis game with the carnosaur), sometime i would love to play them all the time, but against some faction i feel lile there cost doesn't match what they can do (lile the carno), they can be heasly counter, not in this battle howerver ;)
Amazing game, really an excellent watch
So what’s the late game strategy when your opponent has the mobility advantage and you’re limited to infantry? I’ve been in the Beastmen player’s position a lot where my opponent is just running circles and picking off straggling units. Do you consolidate and just stay put or should you try to chase them around and hope for a good pick? Would love to hear your guy’s thoughts!
Defend the cygors for sure!
They need to do a real stamina update to the game. When your forces are exhausted they should not be able to full sprint everywhere still and fight like it’s nothing. They should be extremely slower and have like zero fight left in them.
how do i get information on sponsoring tournaments?
discord.gg/5gnWMsZ Msg me on here!
Your where talking about a "ladder", may I ask where can i find it? Is it in-game or 3rd party stuff?
He refers to the in-game leaderboards.
Clunge Wombler.. is that Gavin?
Hey Turin, how do you get the beastmen, norscan, wood elf and WoC & brettonian RoRs? I have had the DLCs since Total War Warhammer 1, but for some reason I don't have the regiments of renown. I have tried uninstalling the DLCs on steam, as well as deleting and re-installing the main game, but nothing seems to work.
You have to DL them from the TW homepage i think. They were free-LC that came with Norsca.
Foot squares almost never worth their cost. In this game you can pick halberds and have much better AP\AntiLarge unit. Also yes indeed - archers in tight formation easy to rotate and shoot, but they are easy target aswell, espacially for any aoe attacks. In this situation its better to spread units of archers to noodle formation. Good game anyway.
Great match, wow
wow, one can only feel respect towards a player who can take the victory with such a weak faction. For ze lady!
Nerf cygor spell pls xd
then CA would have to buff regular cygor
What a game!
So this begs the question, I mean not at all but still, LOTR Or Magic The Gathering total war?
LOTR for sure!
Finally bretonnia
@Turin isn't it pointless to compare RoR with their counterparts if they aren't levelep ut to tier 9 as well, like yeah level 9 has better melee stats then levl one
Epic match
Beastmen are my favourite facction.. BUT WHY THEY ALWAYS LOSE???
@Turin
Also i just found out you have a health problem with your hands that makes typing painful.
Did you perhaps consider using a Voice to Text software to make typing comments, replies and similar much easier?
I know such software isn't always perfect but it can still significantly reduce the amount of typing you do for comments/replies.
Thank you for your work and i hope you get better soon :)
Aleksej Bogdanov what a wholesome comment
I don’t get the appeal of playing Britannia if you’re not going to make more use of their knights.
FOR ZE LADY!!!!!
Oui.
For the lady !
Why did you make a video with the royal hips . "Worst units in Warhammer"
But yet they're being used Here In online , and you're making them sound too be really good . I'm confused with this , please explain
That video is quite old, things have changed/buffed
Turin thanks for the speedy reply , did not mean too come off as rude , I should of checked date before asking, I just started too watch your videos . Your Warhammer tournaments have lured me :O very entertaining .
One thing that I keep seeing over and over again on total war: Warhammer videos are when people play as Bretonnia; hardly anybody uses their calvary. Just tosses down their extremely poor ( at least in table top) infantry and their archers.
Is the game mechanics just that much different that Bretonnia calvary isn't the stupid powerhouse it is supposed to be? Or do most people just not play them that way and that is why in most videos I see how Bretonnia is the weakest faction?
People expect grail knights - so no one picks them in high level play. They're expensive, and easy to counter. The cygors would have done a number on them, for sure.
That being said, they are very strong in game. Just them existing makes other factions try to counter them, and in doing so leave themselves open to other strategies.
@@ofironboundflame5117 There's more than just Grail Knights.
Cav heavy faction and you didnt go heavy cav
So good and tasty!!
But you put them Hippos on the worst units list, man.
Yes, but they were buffed since then
Awesome match and commentary, but I wish you'd upload some of the matches you lose as well - it's less exciting to watch the game knowing you only ever upload your wins.
I do, go back like 2 games! Also, got a good one for tonight
@@turinRTS Oh, that's reassuring - I just haven't bumped into any of them, my bad
The time is now LEGENDARY!