Mercedes EQA 250 charging comparison

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  • @Scrap-press
    @Scrap-press 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    EQA is doing a lot better than I expected.

    • @DES0MX0
      @DES0MX0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Over 10 less kw charged than other cars to hit 90% don't forget

    • @Scrap-press
      @Scrap-press 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DES0MX0 obviously it needed less kwh. Smaller batteries can't take as many kw as bigger batteries though. Mercedes often appears to be very conservative, so i believe their charging curve will benefit them once the car is getting older.

    • @bavariancarenthusiast2722
      @bavariancarenthusiast2722 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gery4870 You mean comparing to the EQS? Don't think so - but of course its a different category totally

  • @Th3Vik1ng
    @Th3Vik1ng 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Next video: "How I quit my EV channel after receiving an offer from a livestock auction in Texas."

  • @nigelcharles511
    @nigelcharles511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    It would be good if you could have an overlay of range gained during the time of charge. This would emphasise credit for efficiency.

    • @redmantech8167
      @redmantech8167 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just look at the delivered energy.

    • @nigelcharles511
      @nigelcharles511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Delivered energy doesn't compare directly to increase in range. A thirsty car may charge faster but gain less range for a given time. The real race is range gained over time. This is where the Tesla is still king.

    • @onlineo2263
      @onlineo2263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not manufacture rated range but Bjorn 120kmh range!

    • @crystallizem3197
      @crystallizem3197 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nigelcharles511 you're partly correct, but who's care just a little thing. There's no why to concern about it.

  • @notoppland
    @notoppland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Rap god Bjørn

  • @kasmopaya2676
    @kasmopaya2676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for providing net capacity facts Bjørn. (: Simply the best out there. ^^

  • @HidingAllTheWay
    @HidingAllTheWay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Model 3 SR+ would also be interesting for comparison, since it delivered almost identical range to EQA in your test during very similar weather conditions (though Mo3 having different changing speeds on v2 Superchargers, v3 Superchargers and regular high-power CCS fast chargers would make things bit complicated)

    • @hrrrrrrr2084
      @hrrrrrrr2084 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's no SUV, much smaller inside, not as much premium

  • @neitusp8546
    @neitusp8546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    VW finally has to release the 175kw charging software update for the MEB

  • @raden9ka
    @raden9ka 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simply amazing 😀Nissan would be proud

  • @iannixey8779
    @iannixey8779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Bjorn, do you know when your going to get a Hyundai Ionia 5 to test drive please?

  • @ModPhreak
    @ModPhreak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good point about the voltage compared to ampere, I noticed the same. Locally we got a free 50 kW and my Tesla MS 85d with a warm battery and half-ish charge I get max 43-44 kW. Not sure a Tesla can get closer to 50 kW on those chargers.

  • @jadziadax8658
    @jadziadax8658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    EQA, ID4 and iX3 all seem to be really good long distance vehicles. As much as I expected the iX3 to be a terrible vehicle, they've done a decent job with the efficiency and good charging performance. I wonder when I'll do my first 995km to my family with a BEV :)

  • @Arpedk
    @Arpedk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    InsideEVs showed a 2021 Model 3 LR charging at 250 kW, did Tesla update the charging curve?
    I remember Bjørn only getting 180 kW.

  • @outdoorolli5754
    @outdoorolli5754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "The winner" was charging 15% less kWhs (55 instead of 63) than the 2nd - what practical benefit should this "win" have, when the EQA doesn't consume a lot less energy compared to the BMW? Even when the BMW started charging a minute earlier, it managed to get 61 vs. 55 kWhs in the same time.

    • @Markus-zb5zd
      @Markus-zb5zd ปีที่แล้ว

      don't forget the smaller pack doesn't charge as fast, Mercedes prootes a charing speed of only 100 KW and it keps up with a very falt curve

  • @BjrnRuthberg
    @BjrnRuthberg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does the EQA compare to the iX3 in practicality?

  • @onlineo2263
    @onlineo2263 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ix3 has a smaller battery than id4 but takes more electricity to get to 90%. Is this charging inefficiency or did I miss something?

  • @go2ev
    @go2ev 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It will be also interesting to see a charge session of EQA in a 50 kW charger to compare efficiency

  • @backfireisback
    @backfireisback 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Bjorn, not really fair, the ix3 charges way more in KW/h to the battery, unless it uses even more power than the EQC?

    • @colla555
      @colla555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, iX3 hit 55 kWh delivered at 28 min. and EQA only at 35 min.

  • @hrrrrrrr2084
    @hrrrrrrr2084 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very very good job Mercedes-Benz. Unexpected result

  • @cepaposible
    @cepaposible 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see. So many decent options to choose nowadays. And this is only their first generation EVs. In 2025 with more and better models who is going to buy a combustion car in this luxury segment?

  • @GaryJohnWalker1
    @GaryJohnWalker1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That EQA looks like a it's in a decent price range - a bit more than the ID.4 but better perceived quality, and a lot cheaper thn the iX3.

  • @merankankaniarchchige7613
    @merankankaniarchchige7613 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool

  • @kompost1
    @kompost1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't go to Ionity Dal anymore, people will complain of me commenting their charging

  • @MadDaCube
    @MadDaCube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In the end the EQA has charged 55kWh in 35 minutes. It took the iX3 only 28 minutes to charge the same 55kWh. And according to you range test the EQA is also not more efficient than the iX3. So the clear winner is the iX3 here or am I missing something?

    • @JPetr94
      @JPetr94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2 details: iX3 120km/h range test was in warmer temp, in the 1000km run iX3 had noticably higher consumption and they both finished with the same total time .

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, it took iX3 30 minutes. Remember that it started at 8 %. You have to subtract 2 kWh from the iX3 numbers.

    • @MadDaCube
      @MadDaCube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bjornnyland true but that's still 5 min faster

  • @renis.3774
    @renis.3774 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We don't compare apple with apple. Batteries are not same size and consumtions are also different. Not better to consider how many kwh are charged in a given time or better how many effective-range-km are charged in a given time?

  • @williamarmstrong7199
    @williamarmstrong7199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I saw my 1st EQC on the road today! What a beast bigger than a Model X and similar shape too. Quick too!

    • @HidingAllTheWay
      @HidingAllTheWay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      EQC is significantly smaller than Model X. Maybe you're confusing it with EQV?

    • @kasmopaya2676
      @kasmopaya2676 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What a coincidence, just saw my fist too. Greetings from Bavaria.

  • @chrisah1
    @chrisah1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So the average power delivered per hour in order is : 1) BMW ix3, 2) EQA, 3) EQC, 4) ID4.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *delivered energy per hour

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ...or average power (but not "average power per hour")

    • @chrisah1
      @chrisah1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bjornnyland Thanks. appreciate the correction.

  • @nmtb1972
    @nmtb1972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A fully specced EQA is more expensive than a base EQC or iX3. The iX3 even has very few options, so in terms of value, I'd say the BMW wins.

    • @JohnDoe-vx3z
      @JohnDoe-vx3z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not true, iX3 is 90k max vs 74k max for the EQA.

    • @nmtb1972
      @nmtb1972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JohnDoe-vx3z Maybe there are regional differences. In Belgium, if I take all the most expensive options on bmw.be the iX3 costs 77.034,99 euro. On mercedes.be I can spec an EQA for 75.794 euro.

    • @Markus-zb5zd
      @Markus-zb5zd ปีที่แล้ว

      Mercedes offers a lot of high tech even for the "low" price vehicles, sure you can blow their prices with bloat

  • @pebh
    @pebh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These videos are interesting. But... I think it would be more accurate if it targeted distance instead of percentage. Or at least the same kwh of charging.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As already mentioned, range on these cars are very similar.

  • @Moromanji
    @Moromanji 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Volvo XC40 is also a Good competitor for the EQA

  • @SirHackaL0t.
    @SirHackaL0t. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So 10-90% of 65kwh is faster than 10-90% of 80kwh. Lol

    • @arnejohansen8677
      @arnejohansen8677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Better efficiency makes up for it.

  • @janbergendahl
    @janbergendahl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A different result (average absorption 10 - 90%): EQA 1,591 kW/min, iX3 1,588 kW/min, EQC 1,499 kW/min, ID4 1,429 kW/h. Time to a curtain % is not so relevant since they have different battery packs and will drive different distances with same %. Fun fact! If EQA time is not exactly 35 min, but 35min and 59 sec. We don't know because it doesn´t show secs, only on EQC and i rounded that to 46 min. The EQA would drop to 1,546 with 35min and 59 sec on the clock and put iX3 as a winner (if that one is exactly 42 min 0 sec). The difference between them is to small to rank them with precision less than seconds. Also, if the voltage is the charging voltage the EQA clearly has the highest charge volt at 421 volt (at 90%) and iX3 the worst charger at 395 volt. But it might be battery voltage and then it might not matter so much!? Just another way to see it....

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mixed up kW and kWh.

    • @janbergendahl
      @janbergendahl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bjornnyland :-), sure.. I see that but you get the point..

  • @JPetr94
    @JPetr94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:43 The EQA doesn't have 13kWh buffer

    • @JPetr94
      @JPetr94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@abraxastulammo9940 Nope

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      65.5 kWh net capacity and 79.8 kWh gross capacity. You do the math.

    • @JPetr94
      @JPetr94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bjornnyland I wonder where folks took 79.8 kWh gross figure ?

    • @howiew.2682
      @howiew.2682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bjornnyland doesn’t seem right to have 20% capacity buffer, where did u get that info?

    • @JPetr94
      @JPetr94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bjornnyland Some say that EQA has battery configuration 2p100s www.goingelectric.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=546&t=67632
      On the Mercedes configuration page www.mercedes-benz.de/passengercars/mercedes-benz-cars/models/eqa/specifications/battery.module.html has been mentioned Nominal Ah capacity of 187,5 Ah (earlier was 190 Ah and someone made a screenshoot) and MAXIMAL Voltage 420 V (if 100s configuration is true, it is 4,2 V per cell which is totally realistic).
      If we assume 3,7 V nominal per cell, then pack voltage is x100 = 370 V, and gross energy content is 370 x 190 = 70300 Wh.
      But some dude took maximal cell voltage multipled by Ahours and put that number into ev database page, Voi la!

  • @muffythevampirelayer
    @muffythevampirelayer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I took delivery of my new EQA 250 AMG Line last week. Love the car, BUT and a very BIG BUT, as it's a major fail from Mercedes. One cannot schedule a charge from within the settings in the car, or via the Mercedes ME app. This is a basic function that most other (Cheaper) EVs can perform. However, this basic function is not available on the premium car, with a premium price tag. If you have an electricity tariff like Octopus go, you cannot time a charge to take advantage of electricity at 5p per Kwh between 00:30 and 04:30. Unacceptable in my book. Come on Mercedes, get it sorted. It's only a software tweak that can be done over the air.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it really needed to spam three videos with the exact same comment?

  • @makoshark40
    @makoshark40 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jesus why are you talking like its an acution

  • @Marco_Dubbleyou
    @Marco_Dubbleyou 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus! Germans do like flat curves indeed!

  • @tucsonor
    @tucsonor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fourth.

    • @tucsonor
      @tucsonor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...........and love your passion for EV's and honest work.