Rue Chaptal (Kenny Clarke) Johnny Griffin, Roman Schwaller, Paul Heller, tenor saxes; Oliver Kent, piano; Thomas Stabenow, bass; Mario Gonzi, drums Cologne, Germany, March 2000
Interesting debate in some of the comments below. What I hear in listening to this piece is 3 very competent tenor saxophonists, all playing very well. Perhaps Heller's style of improvising is a bit more 'modern'. I would be very happy to be able to play as well as any one of them.
interesting to hear the harmonic development as we want from the first to the third sax.then further development into 4th voicing s in the piano solo..interesting !!!!
Besides....we all have our tastes and opinions when it comes to Art....and no one...I mean No one has the right to attack someone for their opinion....It's all relative.
Is it a crime I'm wanting so bad to put my hands on an old link like those??? What does sound like a crime, robbery in this case, is the price tag they have nowadays!!!
You gotta me more open to music than that man. Jazz is always evolving, changing, moving forward. To say that you prefer the first solo of the others is cool but saying the others aren't jazz is completely ridiculous. I'm sure glad you weren't my teacher lol.
Actually, the younger they got the less they worried about their diaper exploding due to diaphramic pressure...thus the intense tone production and volume !!!!!
This is supposed to be a "Blues" piece... Griffin played a Blues....The other guys( except the beginning of the second tenor soloist) played something else.They also threw in every note they possibly could in every measure...including the pianist...So...where is the language of JAZZ?Well....that's modern Jazz in Europe these days.And if you notice the 3rd tenor solo the most out solo got the biggest hand from the audience.
I did., and I listened to the chords...did you? Back when Griffin started...he played like this. He still does w/ no evolution. Heller can play that solo note for note...but Griffin can't Heller's. It's about expression not only within the chords, but abstracly outside the chords as well. They're all great...I prefer the last player Heller and do play like this myself. Listen to the keyboard during Heller's solo...on the money chord-wise Yes, I did listen.
Do my Homework? I know the history of Jazz Jackoff...I taught it at a University.And I know what I hear...I don't hear "Blues" in most of what the last cat was playing...and the pianist...You can call it"Modern Jazz' to cover it up all you want and then get arrogant to boot...and throwing in every Note as possible is NOT what music is about.Listen to Dexter..I believe he was around 1958-80...ask Cannonball..Sonny Stitt...It's about MUSIC....Not technique ..and Jazz Language.I play myself.
Nothing like those curmudgeonly saxophonists who think there's only one way to play jazz. Those same people regurgitate and try to emulate the greats, yet they'll never be them. Don't worry about what or how people play. You do you, and them them do what they want for themselves, Mr. Saxman. Guessing you don't like any of the players today, like Ernie Watts, Joel Frahm, Donny McCaslin, Joshua Redman, Chris Potter et al. They are all extremely versatile players and can swing with the best of them
Good stuff from all three of them. But the last guy played a lot of harmonic licks and textbook licks. Most modern players today play just like that. Textbook as hell lol. Most don't have soul or language. Just a simple call and response, and spacing within your solo. Even some professional players just play licks and don't have no damn soul.
Please don't put somebody down who is trying to make his point and find his own voice, especially at younger years. At least he doesn't try to copy Griff or Schwaller. And what you mean by saying no soul nor language but licks? It's like saying Bob Berg nor Michael Brecker got any Soul in comparison to Lockjaw Davis, Dexter, Zoot or Scott Hamilton. Enjoy the freedom and various possibilities in Jazz!
I remember touring in Germany with Paul Heller back in 1998. Great musician. :-)
1:26 Dex is inspecting the solo
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Fantastic playing!!!
Wow All great players!!!!!
Roman Schwaller !!!
Interesting debate in some of the comments below. What I hear in listening to this piece is 3 very competent tenor saxophonists, all playing very well. Perhaps Heller's style of improvising is a bit more 'modern'. I would be very happy to be able to play as well as any one of them.
Young Jonny Griffin smokes all of them.
your music is insanely beautiful
Bravissimo .
Indeed....
interesting to hear the harmonic development as we want from the first to the third sax.then further development into 4th voicing s in the piano solo..interesting !!!!
Haha, it would have to be tenor madness too.
Besides....we all have our tastes and opinions when it comes to Art....and no one...I mean No one has the right to attack someone for their opinion....It's all relative.
The pianist blew me away that's all I have to say
That was sick... Even tho it got cut off. Lol
That is some nice shit!
three different styles , griff has the great tradition, roman was clean, but Heller had the most harmonic stuff together.
Well if that's your criteria the pianist. Has a bit of mid 60s chick
Is it a crime I'm wanting so bad to put my hands on an old link like those???
What does sound like a crime, robbery in this case, is the price tag they
have nowadays!!!
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Well obviously all the youtubers have better ears than griff, cause he seemed to like heller. I mean c'mon, it's music! It's all good!
You gotta me more open to music than that man. Jazz is always evolving, changing, moving forward. To say that you prefer the first solo of the others is cool but saying the others aren't jazz is completely ridiculous. I'm sure glad you weren't my teacher lol.
Actually, the younger they got the less they worried about their diaper exploding due to diaphramic pressure...thus the intense tone production and volume !!!!!
Third player rocks.
And the winner is. . . . . . . . . Heller.
Everyone 's the winner, baby, that's the truth 😁
Lawrence Cohen and the winner is......US !!!!!!!
Sorry saxylarry winner is the "little giant from Chicago".
bivedosdeni
You're only saying that cause he's a ginger (;
What are you trying to achieve with your statements?
cool cool.... but why do they all play on links?? no me gusta
Smokin'! Yeah, but fire the heavy handed drummer tho.
This is supposed to be a "Blues" piece... Griffin played a Blues....The other guys( except the beginning of the second tenor soloist) played something else.They also threw in every note they possibly could in every measure...including the pianist...So...where is the language of JAZZ?Well....that's modern Jazz in Europe these days.And if you notice the 3rd tenor solo the most out solo got the biggest hand from the audience.
Demasiadas notas .. Frases repetitivas..todos construyen igual con mas o menos dificultad..extraño al gran Dex !
I did., and I listened to the chords...did you? Back when Griffin started...he played like this. He still does w/ no evolution. Heller can play that solo note for note...but Griffin can't Heller's. It's about expression not only within the chords, but abstracly outside the chords as well. They're all great...I prefer the last player Heller and do play like this myself.
Listen to the keyboard during Heller's solo...on the money chord-wise
Yes, I did listen.
Do my Homework? I know the history of Jazz Jackoff...I taught it at a University.And I know what I hear...I don't hear "Blues" in most of what the last cat was playing...and the pianist...You can call it"Modern Jazz' to cover it up all you want and then get arrogant to boot...and throwing in every Note as possible is NOT what music is about.Listen to Dexter..I believe he was around 1958-80...ask Cannonball..Sonny Stitt...It's about MUSIC....Not technique ..and Jazz Language.I play myself.
Nothing like those curmudgeonly saxophonists who think there's only one way to play jazz. Those same people regurgitate and try to emulate the greats, yet they'll never be them. Don't worry about what or how people play. You do you, and them them do what they want for themselves, Mr. Saxman. Guessing you don't like any of the players today, like Ernie Watts, Joel Frahm, Donny McCaslin, Joshua Redman, Chris Potter et al. They are all extremely versatile players and can swing with the best of them
Good stuff from all three of them. But the last guy played a lot of harmonic licks and textbook licks. Most modern players today play just like that. Textbook as hell lol. Most don't have soul or language. Just a simple call and response, and spacing within your solo. Even some professional players just play licks and don't have no damn soul.
Yeah.. I was on a Workshop with him.. He always told us we have to use Licks.. ._.
And white guys can't jump either ... right?
huh? lol
I'm not saying don't use licks, just make them your own...like make yo own voice with them
Please don't put somebody down who is trying to make his point and find his own voice, especially at younger years. At least he doesn't try to copy Griff or Schwaller. And what you mean by saying no soul nor language but licks? It's like saying Bob Berg nor Michael Brecker got any Soul in comparison to Lockjaw Davis, Dexter, Zoot or Scott Hamilton. Enjoy the freedom and various possibilities in Jazz!
Wrong.