Thank you for posting. I would have been 9 years old when you visited in 1972. My family used to visit relatives every Memorial Day back in 60s and 70s. They lived 5 blocks away from the museum and within 10 minutes of arriving at their house my cousin and I would be running down the road to the museum. I remember climbing all over the 261, Big Boy, and the Aero Train. Things you could do then but not anymore. Your video recalled some great childhood memories.
I was at the museum back in the mid 60s. The Steam Locomotives were on a circular track and I had to climb on every Loco there. I was around 10 years old from Minneapolis. There was no such thing as health and safety. It was a BLAST. They also offered a train ride and the Locomotive was live steam. My understanding is the residents objected to the live steam and they then used the 102 w/ diesel engine to pull the train. In 1990 I brought my family to the museum. They were pulling out the Dwight D Eisenhower to transport it. The diesel engine pulling it developed a chimney fire with flames shooting out the stack by 20 feet. I got it on video. A man next to me asked if I got that and I said yes. We talked a bit and then he said how would you like to ride in the cab of the 102? WOW! YES PLEASE! It turned out he was the vice president of the museum. Great memories and as fresh as when they happened 60 years ago. Thanks for the memories and your video. 👍
Excellent documentation. I was there in 1993, when I was 7. Most of the exhibits that are now under cover, including 4017 and the Aerotrain, were still outdoors then. I remember riding the train with what looked like a steam locomotive at the front, but a diesel rumble could be heard emanating from the tender. That must have been the 102 although some sources I've seen say the diesel in its tender wasn't powerful enough to pull trains until a rebuild years later; but I don't recall another locomotive being involved. I was talking a few months ago via Facebook with someone who had been around in the early days of the museum and was surprised to learn from them that a significant portion of the museum's steam collection, including SOO 2718, was operational in preservation for the first several years. Shame that quickly ceased to be the case.
11:54 the car your wife is sitting in is the Union Pacific dome diner. It’s currently being restored in their workshops Thank you very much for this video. I volunteer at the museum constantly and am currently working on modeling it. I always appreciate new pictures and information on the history of the museum
glad to see you enjoyed your visit. I remember going to the museum years ago and seeing the old CNW bay window 11217 again. It made me smile as on my wall hangs a old pic of 4 year old me waving out the window.
So one of the locomotives that were not describable was the prototype for Day Out With Thomas it was the first variant of being able to hosting the event and was self propelled due to it's small size it was able to haul In 1996 the Green Bay National Railroad Museum unveiled the first ever American built Thomas replica in December. The small Thomas replica looked very offputting and innaccurate, but was used for DOWT events until 2002, when Strasburg's dummy Thomas counterparts took over the role. The engine was put away in storage until sometime later (presice date is unknown, but sometime before 2010) Hit Entertainment found out about this Thomas and ordered for it to be destroyed. The face was removed as well as the smokebox and the engine currently sits in the National Railroad Museum in Green Bay, Wisconsin, USA. When it is at the museum, it is stored in the Victor McCormick Train Pavilion. The engine itself is disassembled but the remains of the shell can be found on "display". It is worth noting that bits and pieces of this "Dead Thomas" are slowly being removed.
I went there back in June of 2015 and I must say I had a blast! My favorite locomotive there was the Union Pacific 4017. They don’t call it a Big Boy for nothin’! That locomotive is absolutely massive!
Good video A few FYI: The 106 at 12:54 is a ex-Southern Pacific Alco S-6 The GBW Alco in the background at 12:43 is an S-3 The museum still has the original tender for S&C 102
Some days they have someone out by the handcar to help visitors use it along that length of track. The hardest part is getting started in the right direction, but I'm sure along a longer stretch it'd be a real workout!
506 was in the pavilion, so not entirely in the weather. I imagine it's been painted sometime in the 50 years since I took the first picture, but the big difference between the then and now photos is the removal of the asbestos and sheathing. To me, locomotives don't look right without their sheathing, but it seems a common practice for museums not to replace it. The equipment that's actually outside didn't look very well maintained to me, but I don't think any of these museums really have the resources to keep their whole collection looking good.
FYI, the Silver Streak is only open on special occasions, the 102 also had her 100th birthday this year, also about that old picture of that business car, it appears to be the same one in the pavilion, the 103 is nee-CB&Q
Yes, but I haven't seen it in person although I hope to get to the Canadian Railway Museum some day. In my video of British trains you can see me in the cab of the Mallard. I was in York one year after they had what they called "The Gathering" of all six surviving A4s. It was held on the 75th anniversary of the Mallard setting the speed record. Both the Eisenhower and the Dominion of Canada were shipped over to England for that event. The Mallard is part of the collection in York, and the other three were in Great Britain already.
@@jayeibner974 at the Canadian Railway Museum, they also have Waddon, one of the 10 surviving members of the London Brighton & South Coast Railway A1 Terrier Class and the only one that's not preserved in England. You know Stepney from the Bluebell Railway, right?
I don't know anyone in Britain. I'd like to get back to the British Isles and take a tour of heritage railways, but I'm not sure my wife's ready for that. So far the only ones I've visited are the ones in the video I posted. We just did a Viking cruise around the British Isles in June, and we were supposed to dock in Dover and visit the Kent and East Sussex Railway. Unfortunately, high winds prevented the ship from docking, and we spent a day at sea instead.
@@jayeibner974 did you know that the coaches that were behind Dwight D Eisenhower were brought to the museum by the Flying Scotsman during the 1970 leg of her USA tour? TH-camr The Unlucky Tug made a video that talks about the Flying Scotsman's USA tour and how they brought the coaches to the museum. I recommend you watch it if you haven't, it's very informative.
@@jayeibner974 I think he meant do you know about Stepney the Bluebell Engine, which is the first engine acquired and preserved by the Bluebell Railway. The Rev. W. Awdry, to promote the railway, incorporated Stepney into one of his books for his famous Railway Series books which the Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends TV show is based on. The Stepney stories were adapted to the show in it's 4th season. Also, I didn't know that the museum has an Atlantic Coast Line diner car. I grew up by the CSX bowline route (a former ACL line) so I'm glad you included that here.
Thank you for posting. I would have been 9 years old when you visited in 1972. My family used to visit relatives every Memorial Day back in 60s and 70s. They lived 5 blocks away from the museum and within 10 minutes of arriving at their house my cousin and I would be running down the road to the museum. I remember climbing all over the 261, Big Boy, and the Aero Train. Things you could do then but not anymore. Your video recalled some great childhood memories.
I was at the museum back in the mid 60s. The Steam Locomotives were on a circular track and I had to climb on every Loco there. I was around 10 years old from Minneapolis. There was no such thing as health and safety. It was a BLAST. They also offered a train ride and the Locomotive was live steam. My understanding is the residents objected to the live steam and they then used the 102 w/ diesel engine to pull the train. In 1990 I brought my family to the museum. They were pulling out the Dwight D Eisenhower to transport it. The diesel engine pulling it developed a chimney fire with flames shooting out the stack by 20 feet. I got it on video. A man next to me asked if I got that and I said yes. We talked a bit and then he said how would you like to ride in the cab of the 102? WOW! YES PLEASE! It turned out he was the vice president of the museum. Great memories and as fresh as when they happened 60 years ago.
Thanks for the memories and your video. 👍
Excellent documentation. I was there in 1993, when I was 7. Most of the exhibits that are now under cover, including 4017 and the Aerotrain, were still outdoors then. I remember riding the train with what looked like a steam locomotive at the front, but a diesel rumble could be heard emanating from the tender. That must have been the 102 although some sources I've seen say the diesel in its tender wasn't powerful enough to pull trains until a rebuild years later; but I don't recall another locomotive being involved.
I was talking a few months ago via Facebook with someone who had been around in the early days of the museum and was surprised to learn from them that a significant portion of the museum's steam collection, including SOO 2718, was operational in preservation for the first several years. Shame that quickly ceased to be the case.
11:54 the car your wife is sitting in is the Union Pacific dome diner. It’s currently being restored in their workshops
Thank you very much for this video. I volunteer at the museum constantly and am currently working on modeling it.
I always appreciate new pictures and information on the history of the museum
Thanks for the info. That explains why I couldn't match it to anything I saw this time.
What was with the one British coach that was like in a Primer paint?
@@Elliottblancher the grey one? It’s not paint, it’s covered in 20 tons of bullet proof armored plating. Underneath it’s a sort of sickly green.
glad to see you enjoyed your visit. I remember going to the museum years ago and seeing the old CNW bay window 11217 again. It made me smile as on my wall hangs a old pic of 4 year old me waving out the window.
It brought back memories to me too. Hard to believe it's over 50 years since we were there the first time.
I just subscribed to your TH-cam channel
So one of the locomotives that were not describable was the prototype for Day Out With Thomas it was the first variant of being able to hosting the event and was self propelled due to it's small size it was able to haul
In 1996 the Green Bay National Railroad Museum unveiled the first ever American built Thomas replica in December. The small Thomas replica looked very offputting and innaccurate, but was used for DOWT events until 2002, when Strasburg's dummy Thomas counterparts took over the role. The engine was put away in storage until sometime later (presice date is unknown, but sometime before 2010) Hit Entertainment found out about this Thomas and ordered for it to be destroyed. The face was removed as well as the smokebox and the engine currently sits in the National Railroad Museum in Green Bay, Wisconsin, USA. When it is at the museum, it is stored in the Victor McCormick Train Pavilion. The engine itself is disassembled but the remains of the shell can be found on "display". It is worth noting that bits and pieces of this "Dead Thomas" are slowly being removed.
oh my god i wrote this bio ages ago. it's super outdated lmaooo
I went there back in June of 2015 and I must say I had a blast! My favorite locomotive there was the Union Pacific 4017. They don’t call it a Big Boy for nothin’! That locomotive is absolutely massive!
I very much want to get up there to visit. I have been to the very nice museum in Duluth and rode their Fall steam excursion train.
Good video
A few FYI:
The 106 at 12:54 is a ex-Southern Pacific Alco S-6
The GBW Alco in the background at 12:43 is an S-3
The museum still has the original tender for S&C 102
Thanks for the info
506 looks like it might have some new paint since we were there in June. It's nice to see them taking care of the stuff outside too.
Some days they have someone out by the handcar to help visitors use it along that length of track. The hardest part is getting started in the right direction, but I'm sure along a longer stretch it'd be a real workout!
506 was in the pavilion, so not entirely in the weather. I imagine it's been painted sometime in the 50 years since I took the first picture, but the big difference between the then and now photos is the removal of the asbestos and sheathing. To me, locomotives don't look right without their sheathing, but it seems a common practice for museums not to replace it. The equipment that's actually outside didn't look very well maintained to me, but I don't think any of these museums really have the resources to keep their whole collection looking good.
FYI, the Silver Streak is only open on special occasions, the 102 also had her 100th birthday this year, also about that old picture of that business car, it appears to be the same one in the pavilion, the 103 is nee-CB&Q
Thanks for the info. You're right about the business car. Don't know how I missed that.
It’s a very nice museum!
10:02 I don't believe the boxcar is a replica. It is one of the many donations that CN has been making over the last few years.
did you know the Friends of 261 bought a Big shop in silvis Illinois and they are restoring the UP 3985
Wow
awesome video! I can speak on the emd e9 that it is in operational condition but the museum can't get the head end power generator to work yet!
Um actually the LNER A4 pacific is actually a 4-6-2
Yeah, can't be both a 4-6-4 and a Pacific can it. Sorry I didn't catch that before I published it.
@@jayeibner974 it’s okay
Have you ever heard of the Dominion of Canada?
Yes, but I haven't seen it in person although I hope to get to the Canadian Railway Museum some day. In my video of British trains you can see me in the cab of the Mallard. I was in York one year after they had what they called "The Gathering" of all six surviving A4s. It was held on the 75th anniversary of the Mallard setting the speed record. Both the Eisenhower and the Dominion of Canada were shipped over to England for that event. The Mallard is part of the collection in York, and the other three were in Great Britain already.
@@jayeibner974 at the Canadian Railway Museum, they also have Waddon, one of the 10 surviving members of the London Brighton & South Coast Railway A1 Terrier Class and the only one that's not preserved in England. You know Stepney from the Bluebell Railway, right?
I don't know anyone in Britain. I'd like to get back to the British Isles and take a tour of heritage railways, but I'm not sure my wife's ready for that. So far the only ones I've visited are the ones in the video I posted. We just did a Viking cruise around the British Isles in June, and we were supposed to dock in Dover and visit the Kent and East Sussex Railway. Unfortunately, high winds prevented the ship from docking, and we spent a day at sea instead.
@@jayeibner974 did you know that the coaches that were behind Dwight D Eisenhower were brought to the museum by the Flying Scotsman during the 1970 leg of her USA tour? TH-camr The Unlucky Tug made a video that talks about the Flying Scotsman's USA tour and how they brought the coaches to the museum. I recommend you watch it if you haven't, it's very informative.
@@jayeibner974 I think he meant do you know about Stepney the Bluebell Engine, which is the first engine acquired and preserved by the Bluebell Railway. The Rev. W. Awdry, to promote the railway, incorporated Stepney into one of his books for his famous Railway Series books which the Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends TV show is based on. The Stepney stories were adapted to the show in it's 4th season. Also, I didn't know that the museum has an Atlantic Coast Line diner car. I grew up by the CSX bowline route (a former ACL line) so I'm glad you included that here.