I still have 8mm film of Steamtown when my family visited in 1966. It was amazing! My sister and I climbed all over the engines, which were all together. Just wonderful. A real shame what happened to it.
It is really a crying shame that the motive power has deteriorated to the condition it is in today. In the video, I noticed a tender with High Iron Company labeling on its side. High Iron used to run excursions out of Lebanon, New Jersey when I was a kid back in the 1960s. I was in Steamtown a little over 30 years ago along with my brother and his future wife. We picked up the excursion train at the Ukraine veterans club. The train backed out of town and then got a running start through town. The idea was they didn't want to blow cinders all over the place by starting from a standing stop. I remember stopping in the middle of the Tunkhannock Creek Viaduct on the Nicholson Cutoff so people could take pictures.
There was a time during my childhood when I so desperately wanted to visit Steamtown. But as I got older, smarter, and learned things about them, my interest in visiting has decreased. I still want to visit it for myself one day, but if I were ever to visit Pennsylvania, I'd probably put it towards the bottom of my list of places to go seeing as they don't offer as much as they used to before 2317 & 3254 were pulled from service. Even though they've been working hard to have B&M 3713 The Constitution operational, I still wonder if are they still worth a visit. Until that day comes, I won't be holding my breath until they do something that amazes me.
I've had no luck on excursions. Even with advanced registration and payment. They always cancel for track maintenance. So I've learned to go at halloween 🎃 and christmas 🎄. More guarantee the train will run.
I don't think they have enough resources to have reliable operation. Only one working steam locomotive, so if it has an issue visitors are out of luck.
Being almost a national park, Steamtown gets a lot of federal money (thanks to its congressman). How many railroad museums are that lucky? None last I heard, though several are state museums and get generous funding although they are subject to budget cuts and political footballing. Witness NC.
Even with the federal money, they seem to have a struggle keeping things going. Moving it from Vermont made it more accessible, but it's still too far from major population centers to draw a lot of people other than train buffs.
You're right, I didn't even realize it was there. You can see its cab sitting on a flatcar 14 seconds into the video. That photo was taken in 2013, and from what I read online it's still in pieces. if any of it's other parts are in any of my photos, I'm unaware.
As an architect / engineer who has been a rail fan my entire life, I have always felt that the "architectural" concept for the who!e revamping of the roundhouse at Steamtown in Scranton was a complete abortion. It looks like something some 70's contemporary architect on psychedelic drugs came up with. I think a more historic!ally accurate restoration would have been more appropriate but I guess they wanted to try to get more daylight into the inside displays.
Steamtown is probably my least favorite railroad museum just because of the appalling state of a lot of their locomotives and rolling stock. Owning equipment is one thing, but you have to keep them maintained like come on
Not to mention that restoring the equipment (cosmetic or operational) requires a lot of money. Forget about winning the lottery, if this is an important job, get it done! No need to be sitting on one’s backside counting the money and worrying about what to spend it on.
I still have 8mm film of Steamtown when my family visited in 1966. It was amazing! My sister and I climbed all over the engines, which were all together. Just wonderful. A real shame what happened to it.
It is really a crying shame that the motive power has deteriorated to the condition it is in today. In the video, I noticed a tender with High Iron Company labeling on its side. High Iron used to run excursions out of Lebanon, New Jersey when I was a kid back in the 1960s. I was in Steamtown a little over 30 years ago along with my brother and his future wife. We picked up the excursion train at the Ukraine veterans club. The train backed out of town and then got a running start through town. The idea was they didn't want to blow cinders all over the place by starting from a standing stop. I remember stopping in the middle of the Tunkhannock Creek Viaduct on the Nicholson Cutoff so people could take pictures.
Nice to hear the current news.
It's the little steam engines that have the best chance of being restored and kept operational. It's the budget.
Unfortunately true
Steamtown is really neat, but its also just so depressing.
Nice view thanks
Always welcome
I’ll miss the days when 3254 ran 😢
Me too.
There was a time during my childhood when I so desperately wanted to visit Steamtown. But as I got older, smarter, and learned things about them, my interest in visiting has decreased. I still want to visit it for myself one day, but if I were ever to visit Pennsylvania, I'd probably put it towards the bottom of my list of places to go seeing as they don't offer as much as they used to before 2317 & 3254 were pulled from service. Even though they've been working hard to have B&M 3713 The Constitution operational, I still wonder if are they still worth a visit. Until that day comes, I won't be holding my breath until they do something that amazes me.
You should always try to visit history no matter how big or small.
If you come to PA start with Strasburg.
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@@jayeibner974 that's first on my list.
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I've had no luck on excursions. Even with advanced registration and payment. They always cancel for track maintenance. So I've learned to go at halloween 🎃 and christmas 🎄. More guarantee the train will run.
I don't think they have enough resources to have reliable operation. Only one working steam locomotive, so if it has an issue visitors are out of luck.
Being almost a national park, Steamtown gets a lot of federal money (thanks to its congressman). How many railroad museums are that lucky? None last I heard, though several are state museums and get generous funding although they are subject to budget cuts and political footballing. Witness NC.
Even with the federal money, they seem to have a struggle keeping things going. Moving it from Vermont made it more accessible, but it's still too far from major population centers to draw a lot of people other than train buffs.
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You forgot 3713.
You're right, I didn't even realize it was there. You can see its cab sitting on a flatcar 14 seconds into the video. That photo was taken in 2013, and from what I read online it's still in pieces. if any of it's other parts are in any of my photos, I'm unaware.
You forgot nkp 759
It's in the roundhouse at 8:42
@@jayeibner974 the mentioning of her history not some brief note
@@brennan-p6j But at least you could see the 759 and are also aware of her current location.
As an architect / engineer who has been a rail fan my entire life, I have always felt that the "architectural" concept for the who!e revamping of the roundhouse at Steamtown in Scranton was a complete abortion. It looks like something some 70's contemporary architect on psychedelic drugs came up with. I think a more historic!ally accurate restoration would have been more appropriate but I guess they wanted to try to get more daylight into the inside displays.
I've wondered about that myself. Maybe a more historically accurate restoration would have been more expensive.
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Steamtown is probably my least favorite railroad museum just because of the appalling state of a lot of their locomotives and rolling stock. Owning equipment is one thing, but you have to keep them maintained like come on
Not to mention that restoring the equipment (cosmetic or operational) requires a lot of money. Forget about winning the lottery, if this is an important job, get it done! No need to be sitting on one’s backside counting the money and worrying about what to spend it on.
Steamtown really is a joke, they should just sell off some of their outdoor locos and rolling stock before it's too late.
Or maybe they could rebuild a replica of most of the rolling stock and locomotives as well. It is a real shame that this is happening.
It is the challenger
No there is no “challenger” in Steamtown. The largest steam locomotive in the collection is the Big Boy 4012.