3 types of valves and how to install/remove them (full video in description box)
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If you have a leaky shut off valve, whether it's COMPRESSION, SOLDERED or PUSH FIT, here's how to remove and install a new one the CORRECT way!
Stuff I used in this video from Amazon:
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Sharkbite depth gauge: amzn.to/2VAHqFK
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All-in-one deburring tool: amzn.to/3B9dLUv
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If you have a leaky shut off valve, whether it's COMPRESSION, SOLDERED or PUSH FIT, here's how to remove and install a new one the CORRECT way!
Stuff I used in this video from Amazon:
Compression sleeve puller: amzn.to/3xD050e
1/2" drill brush tool: amzn.to/3jIV5SR
Bicycle wrench kit: amzn.to/3CzRu2f
Sharkbite depth gauge: amzn.to/2VAHqFK
Soldering heat shield: amzn.to/3F8SJWA
Pencil reamer: amzn.to/2tBuhKW
All-in-one deburring tool: amzn.to/3B9dLUv
those aren't valves
In Canada, I'm quite certain that soldered bronze valves on copper pipes are what you'll find in most homes, but the industry is definitely changing. There's a lot of pex pipes being installed in newer homes.
I removed 700 of those sweat on valve in a hotel resort. They had several that busted and flooded the hotel. I replaced with the compression 1/4 turn valves.
Cheaper and faster than copper but still in the states in higher end homes we still use copper.
@@Mile_zer0 in San Diego we use pex but the stubouts are always copper
Can confirm
I'm a 3rd year in BC, my company is pretty much exclusively using expansion PEX now. We only really do copper for mechanical rooms and we mainly use pro press. Definitely alot of new products and standards around
Plumbing 101. Thanks for all these videos
Best shut off valves imo. 11 year plumber
Your videos are going to help me out a lot when I have to change out my earlier mistakes. Thanks man
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This guy sounds like every customer service phone operator I've ever spoken to!
I put a little bit of water piping thread sealant on the threads of the angle stops after cleaning the pipe with sand paper or Emory cloth. An old plumber taught me a trick of using an in reamed 5"-6" piece of 3/4" pipe to remove the dry dry wall mud from copper 1/2" water pipe stub outs and it works great. Plus you want the pipe in the angle stop fitting all the way untill bottoms out the tighten over the Farrell.
Becareful of shark bite valves . Can be hard to get them to seal and if touched they can leak and 4-5x the price
You need to know how to install them correctly.
@@e.o.s.470or just don't install them
Compression angle stops are the quickest and best, nowadays 1/4 turn on/ off ones are the most common. But they still sell the regular ones that take a few turns to shut on or off.
Compression fittings for the win.
That tool is a game changer
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I can’t believe you knew it was called an “Olive” in England. I’m from there but live here in the US…. I’ve gone to a Hardware Store and asked for “Olives”… they think I wanted a Martini!!!
Good Tutorial Sir.
I work by the 1 and done rule ! No callbacks , no comebacks !
Man i'm telling you. My house is from 65", and none of my pipes are soldered. Never had a leak
Compression Fittings are the best if all
Yes. I had just replaced two of them for one of the sinks in my bathroom. This is the first time I've ever replaced a shut off valve. The first valve took me about 30 minutes to replace as I had to figure out which combination of wrenches to use under a sink. The second valve took me about 15 minutes. I spent some time cleaning the copper pipes. The old valves weren't turning. I needed to turn the valve off so I could replace a faucet cartridge.
Compression values are the bane of my existence. When I run into one it's been there forever so turning the valve off makes it leak and the compression ring never wants to come off.
Personally if I'm working with metal pipe, I'm soldering or brazing.
Pex is absolutely the way to go for most modern homes, but metal is still super common and preferred in some applications.
I prefer it personally, but I also know how much more work metal pipe fitting is.
if you solder or braze well, it'll outlast the structure. the catch is that a lot of guys aren't quite as good at it as they think they are, so it takes a more skilled plumber or fitter to so it well.
Respect I have learnt some tips
Compression valve ,the reliable valve
I am learning so much 😊
I'm so glad!
This guy: States a statement as if it were a fact.
Also this guy in the second sentence: iN mY OPiNioN
Every news agency: You're hired.
Compression fittings are not typical in most homes stateside
Decades behind. Americans have also refused to use Robertson screws because... because?
I use a lot of compression fittings at work but no need at home because of pex and pvc.
All i see are compression valves at every home that is 30 years and older
It's either compression stops or PEX stops or for the love of God a threaded stop on some CPVC (I just go ahead and cut the pipe, rather then try to get those off and break the pipe). But those are the 3 main stops I see and in that order. (Southern USA)
@@kelsycunningham8452¯\_(ツ)_/¯ meh we like what we like...
Well done Mon ami 👍👍🍻
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compression my favorite!!!!
Best of videos even though I done the job keep up the good work friend
I prefer compression fittings over sweating and bringing up the rear is shark bite fittings.
Always wondered how to install compression rings on flush valves
This guy’s boyfriend definitely owns a plumbing company
Okay thanks Forest.
What about threaded screw on valves? I think people tend to forget about these as they are less common.
Works too
...and the threaded ones are the best
@@jkren1629 I had one crack on me. I think I threaded it too tight to orient the 3/8" compression on the top. The good thing is it will have a chrome tube. Looks good.
All that I will use. No risk of burning the valve you get to solder pipe right to a fitting so that's not a big heat sink like a valve is. And then if down the line you want to switch it out for something else or remove it have at.
When I do my own houses I put a female in the wall on blocking like a shower head. I toss a capped pipe nipple in hang the drywall and then pick the right nipple so the valve pins the escutcheon to the wall.
@AlexT a way to prevent that is to use both tape and dope. Goes tight in a wider range of angles.
Compression valves are also used on heavy duty vehicles air brake fittings. I replaced one on a dd13 air compressor in a vanhool bus.
The most common are the ocr17 with a fip end. It's threaded.
Great video 😊
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What about crimped pex and Q & E (wirsbo)?
It's recommended to use copper stubouts for those as to not expose the PEX to the sunlight.
Not sure if it’s a code thing where you are but we run pex out of the wall and crimp on a chrome stop…..and of course an eschion and cover tube.
You forgot my favorite; threaded.
my favorite are pro press valves, the compact press split rings make almost anything possible
“Special tool needed”
🤣 😂 😜
A couple wrenches that most people already have is all you need.
The tool is to remove the ferrule ring
@@jkren1629 still not needed.
I completely disagree. By all means, link a video of how this is possible and educate me.
@@jkren1629 disagree all you like. Just because you don’t know doesn’t make it not true.
And no. I’m not making a video for you. That’s ridiculous
So fun!
There's also threaded valves
I need more
A male adapter sweated onto copper and then a female thread valve the best any person with a wrench and Teflon tape can replace
I was removing some moldy Sheetrock from behind a toilet and the edge of the Sheetrock caught the shark bite toilet supply and popped it right off. Full pressure into a second floor bathroom. Luckily I got my thumb jammed over the hole and had the homeowner turn the water off. If I had been alone I would have finally been able to use that insurance I never thought I would need.
I just use 1/2" NPT 1/4 turn valves. Drop ear 90s mounted like a shower arm and brass nipples to extend through the wall.
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Sounds like a custom home plumber talking there.
Love it.
@@robertrhoadesiii1470 I can sweat copper, but I love PEX because there is no need for an open flame. I also do not think PEX should be visible in a finished room or where you need to "wrench" on a threaded fitting.
I just had to go to a customer's house to replace undermount drawer slides the contractor filled with saw dust. They also mis-cut holes for supply and drain covering it with CDX. The added 1/2" plywood also left no room to hook up the supply lines that were PEX out of the wall:(
Special tool for compression fittings? That would be a couple of spanners
They have pex crimp stops and cold expansion stops too
We call them an olive?
Lubricant the compression fitting thread and over tighten.
Least common in my area , most common would be sweat , and NPT , and now the good ol shark bite lol , in probably 250 bathrooms I’ve yet to have anyone use the compression type , it’s strange how diff areas use different styles
So that’s why some language menus offer both English (US) and English (UK). Makes sense.
I mean, ‘smoking fags’ is universal.
Thank uou
He forgot to mention that, for extra safety, you need to apply a jointing paste to the thread of the compression nut and also a coat on the tube.
There are 2 types, the normal type for gas and ground water for showers and baths etc. The second type is for potable drinking water.
In the case of soldered joints the flux required for soldering pipework for drinking water is also suitable for drinking water.
He has missed out a lot of detail to enable a DIYer to do simple plumbing. It would be better if he hadn't done the video to start with thereby avoiding costly mistakes on the part of home owners looking to save money.
I am not a plumber but I have been in the construction industry for a long time working as a 'chippy' before retiring.
The worst case I saw was upon removing an existing kitchen with instructions to rearrange the units I found a copper gas supply pipe with a straight connector on its length that hadn't been soldered.
It must have been in place since the installation of the kitchen maybe 20/30 years ago by the owner.
It must have been leaking gas all those years.
On another occasion he dismissed a bulging ceiling as perfectly safe and eventually a huge section fell down just missing his wife.
On another occasion, while I was working on the property he'd dug a trench about a foot wide by 2 foot deep from the front door to a wooden summer house about 15 metres away with the intention of running an electric supply to the summer house.
He didn't bother to temporarily cover the trench over for safety.
I came towards the front door during the winter when it was dark in the mornings and evenings.
Inevitably, I fell down into the trench and cut my leg on the flintstones sticking out of the sides of the trench.
When I mentioned this to him, far from being concerned he dismissed the incident as nothing of any consequence.
What is a 'soddered' joint?🤣🤣🤣
Ahhh nightmare advice, a well installed compression fitting doesn’t requires anything other than an olive and compression.
@@Dandodod1 I agree with you, but sometimes, for extra safety, it's a good idea. That's why it's available to buy and have in your plumbers tool kit in case the installation is in a high stress situation where there is a lot of vibration.
An installation should always be tested anyway to show up any leaks.
That home owner who forget to solder his straight connector, dug a trench close to his front door and left it uncovered and ignored the bulge in his kitchen ceiling, was a fighter pilot in his youth.
(Yes, John! I'm talking about you up there in heaven, you moron!)
(Ah, yes, Cynthia sends her regards but she hasn't any plans to join you just yet because she's on her tenth cruise at the moment!)
OK, I made that last bit up. It was a long time ago and without doubt she'll have joined him by now.
But on one occasion when I was making my way towards the front door at the beginning of a work day, she was sitting on the top step of the three leading to the porch with her knees wide apart showing her hairy fanny.
Normally, being a red blooded male and unattached, this would be my fantasy come true, except she was a frumpy old bird of about 70 odd.
I mean, it's not very flattering to the lady in question to suddenly throw up on the drive in front of her!
Hahaha!
OK, I made up the throwing up bit
but the rest was true.
What I really did was pretend I hadn't noticed.😄😄
Threaded screw valves are another type and most common. But this vid is about copper, srew valves screw unto galvanize.
Brass threaded valves absolutely screw into brass drop ears that get sweated to copper, crimped to Pex, etc. - depending on the drop ear in question.
Whoever is trying to remove that Sharkbite fitting needs to use the proper tool. A pair of screwdrivers is not it.
What about pro press?
What about the crimp, expansion, or FIP angle valves ….or those that have female slip fitting for pvc, cpvc, etc
Can the escutcheon ring double as a sharkbite removal tool in a pinch?
Here in AUstralia we usually use nylon olives, not brass.
Ferrule. It looks nothing like an olive.
Don't need much skill he said , lol I guess that's why he's starting small ! With comp.fittings . I'd like to see him remove a comp.fitting after it's been tightened down ! The ( special ) tool is a pipe cutter ! You can't just pull a comp.fitting off .
Press fit,cpvc,fip are 3 more.
You forgot the threaded valves.
What about 1/2” mip stop valves?
Shark bit fittings only in an emergency
Compression type is supposed to be put on with a drop of vaseline to alow smooth assembly.
What about press fittings
Haha, the shark bite can be removed while still under pressure by some carpet installers that yank up on carpet!!! Don’t use shark bites and don’t have carpet in a bathroom.
What about pex crimp valves.
There's a difference between handy men and wanna be plumbers and real plumbers
It's an angle stop. Compression valve?
What is that “special tool” for the compression valves?
It's really neat! He's going to show us in just a second. 🤣🤣🤣
It's called a compression ring puller.
Why say Solder as if it has a silent L? 🤣 other than that nice vid
Olive ftw
Compression fittings are a pain in the ass to remove! They work good but if you have to remove them they are hard as hell to get that ring off
Easy , small hack saw across olive to create a slot then use a flat blade screwdriver to split it off the pipe
Or gently twist off with Grips
Or use olive removal tool
In the uk we prononce it solder not sarder
Press fit. 🙂
Threaded fitting more common round here
I’m sorry, but I have sweat it on plenty of compression valves and I’ve never had one complaint
Does this cover quest valves? Plastic.
I had to miss heard you saying Olive valve?
Ball valve?
You forgot the best one. Solder on a male thread adapter and then you use a threaded valve. The threads never wear out and you can replace many valves over the life of the building without ever having to solder again. Those sharkbite fittings will always eventually leak, because they are only sealed with a single o-ring.
Your forgetting pressed valves
Do compression valves need Teflon tape or dope?
Negative.
That loop... Lol
Can you reuse the ferrule in the compression fittings or should you get a new one?
Recommend to always use new ferrule
Solder rules F the rest
do you need a new ferrel ring if you have to remove the fitting for some reason?
Full video in description.
No, you don't because they won't come off. To get them off you have to cut them off. As the compression joint is tightened up it compresses the olive onto the pipe and it becomes deformed.
Sorry, I meant to say yes.
Any valve that is not soldered on and does not have a pack of none is junk. And easy is a word I've taken out of my Plumbing vocabulary and my life's vocabulary.
these things sketch me out. especially when I see them on CPVC
CPVC is pretty much the worst stuff ever made. I can't believe people still use it
Cpvc is the next quest.
Wow bro
to stop the leak install a gate valve
You forgot the ½" & ¾" npt female, and the cpvc stops
gass tape ?
Never use the third type….✅
Try removing a compression fitting on 30yo cpvc & tell me it's easy 😂
You forgot about ips threaded valves... way more common then you think
“You don’t need much skill to remove them”
Wrong. If it’s all new copper pipe and valve in good shape and w good access yes it’s not hard. It the pipe and valve are very old and corroded it can be impossible to turn the compression fitting, possibly cracking of breaking the pipe upstream in the process. So you have to know if you are or can cut the valve off. Have to know how much torque is ok to tighten new valve, because you can do too much.
Sweat fittings are typical
He said fun hahahahaha
Sweat on a male adapter and install your female threaded angle stop
Most common? I've never seen one in my 50 plus years. Must be a regional thing.
I thought mixing dissimilar metals wasn't allowed in plumbing