With its Phoenix Yellow paint, weight reduction, Cup 2 tires, and retuned steering and suspension, is the FK8 Honda Civic Type R Limited Edition the best driving FWD of all time? / zygrene
I love Honda. Owned a BB6, currently have an ES2 as a commuter, looking for a DC5 as a fun, nostalgic, weekend project. It's an awesome, capable drive, but man, I'll never get over that engine sound and those looks. I generally agree that turbo>VTEC (I have an RS3 on order), but IMO the soul of a Honda is high revving, screaming VTEC. Times are changing, that's for sure! Great video as always, Fenton! 😁👍
I've own a type R and couple weeks ago rented a 2022 GR86 on Turo and loved it. I really want to get one...so I started watching your channel. Love to see that you enjoy the FK8 platform as well.
@@retrograde11 It's kind of weird. But sometimes the Type R feels a little too good? Shifting is smooth. Driving in traffic is practically painless in traffic. Power is great. Comfortable ride(after replacing the stock 20s to 18s). It's basically the perfect daily driver for me. But when I drove a GR86 it made me miss the things that I love about driving. Much more raw feedback when shifting gears(if you shift wrong the car will jerk). And the handling of a RWD car is just simply different. Overall the Type R is absolutely the "better car" but I think the GR86/BRZ is more fun.
Awesome review! Great advice on just getting a regular Type R and doing your own mods. I have some suspension and brake mods, FBO and upgraded turbo and the car has so much more to offer than a limited edition CTR.
This car reminds me of jewelry. Personally I’d never wear a big ass chain but on someone else I can appreciate the craftsmanship and how cool it looks.
Loved these type of cars (FWD) when i was in my twenties but now a days cant look past the fact that RWD is such a better more entertaining car to drive..
The only time rwd is more entertaining is when you drift. Try doing that on public roads and you're looking at an impound and lots of tickets in most states. Which wheels move the car rarely matter anymore even on the track. Suspension tuning and chassis makes way more of a difference.
Best FWD? This shifter is reportedly one of the current best and Honda did some clever engineering to reduce FWD torque steer. Although, one could argue the Integra Type R with it's high revving N/A engine, light weight chassis and superior double wishbone suspension, seems like a compelling contender to me. My RSX would be in the mix too if it weren't for it's garbage steering and suspension. Some swear by the GTI, Veloster N, Focus, and Fiesta. Sounds like a Zygrene FWD comparo vid is needed 👍
Type R feels more serious and focused on speed whereas the BRZ provides more driver engagement and fun. The difference is - you can make the BRZ feel more serious with mods, whereas modding the Type R will probably just increase its performance without necessarily changing its no-nonsense personality.
@@Zygrene honestly this reminds me of when I had my DC2R. I ultimately found the NB more fun to drive - mostly because the Integra felt so serious whereas Miatas are all sillyness and laughter
I had a 2014 civic si Coupe. Now driving a 2013 Acura TSX A spec. Both had the 2.4l VTEC. Amazing engine. Looking for ward to buying a 2021 civic type r when they come down in price to 25k
I believe that the throttle mapping for Sport and +R are the same. IIRC, someone looked at the modes via Hondata and confirmed this. At least for the stock tune
Had a 2021 sold it. Cars so over hyped. Hondas first over powered car. Boo. Bought another 8th gen civic si to daily and low it so much more. Real Honda.
True, Porsche rev match is much sharper. The system in the Type R works fine in normal driving but has trouble keeping up when downshifting aggressively at higher rpm.
The best FWD car ever but also the worst drivetrain type ever. It's like being the best MLS team ever but compare MLS to European football(Soccer) leagues.
I owned a Mk6 GTI stick, and had also test driven an EP3 Civic (I think... gen w/that funky hvac shifter lol). Despite being older, it had slightly more realistic road feel vs the GTI's electronically-weighted steering feel imho. But admitted, current gen GTI/Golf R are peak hatch performers. Can't speak on feel til I drive them and CTR.
I'm rear wheel drive to the core, but Honda proved that front wheel drive can be fast. One of their many contributions to the automotive world.
I love Honda. Owned a BB6, currently have an ES2 as a commuter, looking for a DC5 as a fun, nostalgic, weekend project. It's an awesome, capable drive, but man, I'll never get over that engine sound and those looks. I generally agree that turbo>VTEC (I have an RS3 on order), but IMO the soul of a Honda is high revving, screaming VTEC. Times are changing, that's for sure! Great video as always, Fenton! 😁👍
I've own a type R and couple weeks ago rented a 2022 GR86 on Turo and loved it. I really want to get one...so I started watching your channel. Love to see that you enjoy the FK8 platform as well.
What did you like about it more than your current type R?
Haha I did the opposite! I own a BRZ and Turo’d a Type R and loved it! Both are great cars.
@@dreamdrivedrift is it the power that attracts you to it, or something else?
@@retrograde11 It's kind of weird. But sometimes the Type R feels a little too good? Shifting is smooth. Driving in traffic is practically painless in traffic. Power is great. Comfortable ride(after replacing the stock 20s to 18s). It's basically the perfect daily driver for me. But when I drove a GR86 it made me miss the things that I love about driving. Much more raw feedback when shifting gears(if you shift wrong the car will jerk). And the handling of a RWD car is just simply different. Overall the Type R is absolutely the "better car" but I think the GR86/BRZ is more fun.
@@dreamdrivedrift guess we both gotta own 2 cars lol
Nice work Fenton. Balanced review while acknowledging how good this car is. Let's see how well the new Civic Type R will drive.
Very excited for the new Type R. Mature (relatively) exterior design makes it much more appealing than the FK8
So glad honda still makes fun fwd cars. Hate the looks of this gen but the newest gen is looking really promising and may just be my next car.
just took my fk8 to the track yesterday, perfect timing
Awesome review! Great advice on just getting a regular Type R and doing your own mods. I have some suspension and brake mods, FBO and upgraded turbo and the car has so much more to offer than a limited edition CTR.
This car reminds me of jewelry. Personally I’d never wear a big ass chain but on someone else I can appreciate the craftsmanship and how cool it looks.
The car made u look serious for a sec there ! Lol definitely super review!
Loved these type of cars (FWD) when i was in my twenties but now a days cant look past the fact that RWD is such a better more entertaining car to drive..
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@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks what? Fatman stay away from the doritos that should be your Main concern.
The only time rwd is more entertaining is when you drift. Try doing that on public roads and you're looking at an impound and lots of tickets in most states. Which wheels move the car rarely matter anymore even on the track. Suspension tuning and chassis makes way more of a difference.
@@feelthatfeelthat not at all fwd are 70/30 vs most good rwd are 50/50. I can tell you've never owned rwd by your comment
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Best FWD? This shifter is reportedly one of the current best and Honda did some clever engineering to reduce FWD torque steer. Although, one could argue the Integra Type R with it's high revving N/A engine, light weight chassis and superior double wishbone suspension, seems like a compelling contender to me. My RSX would be in the mix too if it weren't for it's garbage steering and suspension. Some swear by the GTI, Veloster N, Focus, and Fiesta. Sounds like a Zygrene FWD comparo vid is needed 👍
Love the DC2R but it could use a bit more power. Yes, a FWD comparison sounds fun!
Integra Type R is a garbage daily though.
Fenton, how does the Type-r compare to your BRZ? Which on would you say is more fun and engaging to drive?
Type R feels more serious and focused on speed whereas the BRZ provides more driver engagement and fun. The difference is - you can make the BRZ feel more serious with mods, whereas modding the Type R will probably just increase its performance without necessarily changing its no-nonsense personality.
@@Zygrene Thanks!
@@Zygrene honestly this reminds me of when I had my DC2R. I ultimately found the NB more fun to drive - mostly because the Integra felt so serious whereas Miatas are all sillyness and laughter
Which one is faster? NSX or Type R. I have a 91 NSX and Supercharged miata. I am waiting for new Type R to show up and may trade my miata for it.
If my EJ8 with full suspension handled well in the canyons in my college years, this thing must feel 10x better lol
I had a 2014 civic si Coupe. Now driving a 2013 Acura TSX A spec. Both had the 2.4l VTEC. Amazing engine. Looking for ward to buying a 2021 civic type r when they come down in price to 25k
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I believe that the throttle mapping for Sport and +R are the same. IIRC, someone looked at the modes via Hondata and confirmed this. At least for the stock tune
That was awesome! 👍
This or FL5?
Was the owner able to buy it at sticker price?
He paid a good chunk of markup
Which madlad dad takes his baby around in this monster
Please do a comparison between the LE and the regular Type R.
The differences (besides tires) are small enough that a full comparison video probably won't reveal much
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I made a video exactly as you’re describing - comparing my 2019 CTR to my 2021 CTR LE
What road is this? Bay area right?
The Elantra N is pretty good I hear
New sub! Liked ❤️😀👍👍
Would you have this? Or 2016 bmw n55 m2 6mt?
Since I'm a RWD junkie, M2 is more up my alley
Surprised you didnt compare the shifter to the s2k😂
Lol me too
Actually no, the Renault Megane RS Trophy R is the fastest around the ring! But The Honda is close.
Wish we had Renault here in the states
Nice car but yellow is not my jam.
Had a 2021 sold it. Cars so over hyped. Hondas first over powered car. Boo. Bought another 8th gen civic si to daily and low it so much more. Real Honda.
I am a pretty big fan of the manual tranny. But I am not a fan of the Honda auto blipper. The one in my Porsche works way better
True, Porsche rev match is much sharper. The system in the Type R works fine in normal driving but has trouble keeping up when downshifting aggressively at higher rpm.
Who drive a TypeR and uses the auto blipper?
@@zcmdzpp127 I drive my cayman gt4 with the auto blipper.
@@Zygrene nailed it! Keep up the good work, you make good videos
@@zcmdzpp127 the pedals are not conducive to heel toe; you have to mod
The best FWD car ever but also the worst drivetrain type ever. It's like being the best MLS team ever but compare MLS to European football(Soccer) leagues.
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No it is not. GTI will always be king.
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I owned a Mk6 GTI stick, and had also test driven an EP3 Civic (I think... gen w/that funky hvac shifter lol). Despite being older, it had slightly more realistic road feel vs the GTI's electronically-weighted steering feel imho. But admitted, current gen GTI/Golf R are peak hatch performers. Can't speak on feel til I drive them and CTR.
I wonder why i never see them at the track?
Golf R is up there. What about the Megane Trophy (R)???
Only if you like automatic transmission 😂😂