A dealership in Florida was selling a black/black Cayenne GTS manual w/80k miles earlier this summer for $16k. I was fast, but not fast enough and I’m still haunted by it.
Gotta love the binaural audio, it's so damn immersive. Love your video's! They're straight to the point and without useless ads, keep up the good work!
I got one with 160k miles on it. Still runs great and it’s so fun to drive on the daily! I grew up witching my dad drive it and now I get to do it is awesome
When I was ordering mine, I wanted a manual and the dealer practically arm wrestled me into the auto... I should’ve gone with my gut. “996 vibes” totally accurate and that’s why I love it 🙂
Love this generation of Cayenne. It just feels like the gen which Porsche gave it the real juice and its before "platformization" . The pre-facelift first gen cayenne were very old-looking to me when the facelift definitely fixed it all. I was a kid back then and til this day I still think the first gen facelifted Cayenne is the best Cayenne.
7:08 Ah the Achilles heel of commuting in a manual. Getting left behind by modern 4 cylinder CVTs during the 1 to 2 shift... Then blasting by them in second.
I have been in countless discussion about, “automatic” vs Manual. And the common theme is that you have someone who doesn’t get or understand the “thing” with manual transmission, most of them can’t even drive “stick” or if the can they aren’t that good at it. Yes modern “Automatics” are “better” they are faster, “easier and more comfortable” to drive, but that isn’t what it is about, speed isn’t everything, you can’t beat the experience of driving a manual, shifting your own gears, being in complete control of the clutch and transmission, manuals usually age better because there isn’t any that goes out of date (apart from your self). Even though (modern) “automatics” are objectively better at pretty much everything, I still prefer manual cars for the enjoyment factor, i daily drive a manual, both my cars are manuals. What I’m trying to say is, in my opinion you can’t beat the feeling, experience of driving a “stick shift”, you sort of become a part of the car in a way that you don’t do with an “automatic”.
This is true. I've already seen two of my friends whom ive encouraged to buy a stick shift car change how they think. They now only want to drive stick. The second guy I put on originally was going to purchase a DCT F80 M3, and ever since I told him to buy a beater stick shift car, completely changed how he felt. He currently owns a Manual 2018 Bmw M3 haha
Those are the rarest Cayennes ever!! They had one of those on Cars & Bids. I wish Doug DeMuro could review a rare quirky manual Porsche Cayenne GTS Transsyberia
Gen one turbo looks like a really fat 996 turbo from the front. It can still look cool with the right wheels and color. Gen 2 is more its own thing, looks i bit more "classy", but maybe a bit more boring.
Man, when you got onto that on ramp and you had to slow down because there was a model s in fron of you and you activated the blinker, it just looked so angrily done and i totallly feel you ted hahaha
I see this gts lacks the PDCC. You would be surprised how much that does to the stability of the car. I have a 957 turbo family cruiser, this heavy thing can handle some corners indeed!
Very cool, I used to have a customer with a 2011 or so 3.6 vr6 6 speed. Was super awkward and didnt like it. Never knew they put it in the GTS, now thats cool.
I remember seeing the Transsyberia variant (GTS engine and final drive) new at the dealer and stunned that someone would want it with the gaudy orange accents and gauges. Didn't realize there were about 100 in the country and it would have such a following
I used to work for a Mclaren dealership years ago, and this was basically our shop truck. So I drove one around for quite a while, and I had no idea they ever came in a manual! Cool video!
Tedward, I absolutely LOVE your POV videos, I do sometimes wish you'd drive some "normal" cars, I'd love to see this kind of video using a Ford Focus for example! Might be a good idea for a second channel... 🤔 Love your work!!
My dad baught a first gen cayenne right off the showroom floor in 2005 and he said he was worried about driving me around in it because he was worried about the stiff suspension damaging my brain. He still did but prefered to drive his 91 300se w140 which was a very reliable trouper and cls 55 (which was much more comfortable) back to the point 16 years later I ride in the cayenne I completely agree with him the suspension is probably the hardest riding suspension out of almost any car I've ridden in still love the car.
What? What the kind of cars are you comparing to, its not stiff at all compared to almost anything that is supposed to be "sporty". In fact, its about on the same level as a newer normal european station wagon. "damage the brain", talk about different perspectives. Wild. Let me assure you, it wouldnt have. Proably hust something your father said to keep you out of the car.
@@GoldenCroc that was a joke but our base cayenne that I’ve been riding in my hole life has some of the stiffest suspension I’ve felt but the car handles very well and is surefooted at high speed the suspension on that car is particularly jarring on rough road compared to the other cars I have driven.
@@romans7177 Yeah, its pretty stiff compared to many cars, and certainly all lot of others in 2005, and for a SUV its extremely stiff for its time, yeah. As you surmised, its setup for high speed, which would have been a big use back in its country of origin. Cheers.
Been driving my 957GTS 6 speed for like 6 years, mine has pdcc and I changed the steering wheel to a 992 one. Made a major difference. The only thing I wished i had is the pano roof. 1st gear is useless but it has so much torque that 2nd gear starts are fine
@@frederickcook87 Whats the reliability on a your Cayenne? I'm so tempted by one of these in the near future but never found a manual cayenne owner to ask. 😅
@@Jephph13bREW my GTS is the second Cayenne that I’ve owned, had an S model before. Both rock solid and dependable… drinks gas though… and a lot of VW parts fit
@@TedwardDrives I think it's like partly that the 1st gear is so short so that makes 2nd relatively tall? Which means it's hard to keep the revs up during that 1-2 shift, especially since the dual-mass flywheel has to get up to speed? Iunno
I own an 04 e53 X5 3.0 6 spd & absolutely love it! Just dropped another engine in at 202k miles & shes still rolling #savethemanua ..would love to have one of these GTS manuals 🔥
I had that same Car / Colour combo a few years back. Still miss the sound, performance and general sense of occasion. Don't miss the fuel bills and harsh ride around town. (Disclaimer - Mine did not have Air Suspension - which I recommend in retrospect 😁)
Those buttons aren't blank just from being used. A bunch of auto manufacturers around that time used a really crappy paint to mark their switches that would easily come off when detailing. Usually didn't notice it on cheap cars as they're rarely detailed, cars like this Cayenne would be detailed regularly though
Yo bro. I used to be the first person on the video but had an accident. Went in a comma , but dont worry im fine now and it feels good to know that you have been uploading tje best videos😍😍
Haha! Friend of mine has one from new. Tried selling a few years ago and couldn't give it away so he decided to keep it as a backup car. Now these are very sought after. They only made them in the hundreds, might even be a collectible at some point.
I remember playing with the Porsche car configurator, 911 and Cayennes. I remember the trans Syberia face-lift edition! I'd totally see myself towing my track nugget with that gts, clutch might say otherwise ahah
Doubt the clutch would give out unless one really cant drive stick at all. All of europe is filled with manual cars with way lesser clutches than this car has, towing heavy caravans and boats since time immemorial.
@@GoldenCroc I live in Europe and depending on where you live, burning a clutch is easier than you think if you are not a bit careful. Ever tried a X3 2.0d on a hill ? believe me you don't have even have to tow anything.
@@frozenpete788 Hi Pete. I dont know what to tell you that couldnt be taken as an insult. Please believe me when I tell you that is not my intent. A bit of background: I have driven a car very similar to the one you describe, and many others like it, using the same driveline. I have towed heavy objects which are multiples of the cars maximum tow rating. I have done hill starts in heavy gradients with and without heavy trailers behind for years. Never a problem. Never replaced a clutch or even had any discernable wear on any of the cars I have owned. What is my secret? I dont think I am some kind of superman, as evidenced by the fact that many others can do it. I think its just practice. It took me quite some time to get this good, rome wasnt built in a day. So thats I what I would advise; more practice, and its likely your fears/problems regarding this will go away. Cheers.
@@GoldenCroc no offense taken. I mostly drive manuals (9 cars on 10), I tow my stuff around with an A6 avant Quattro tiptronic because its the only trans option and that has a hitch. I've driven cars on road and track, 4x4, heavy duty trucks. Believe me heating a clutch and burning it doesn't take much if it has seen use or it's older. You might get away with a brand new one sometimes and it depends. The clutch on my 530d has 257.000kms and is original, the trans on the A6 has 347.000 and is original too never been opened. Take the original clutch on my e30, the disc is warped when hot. Being gentle with your ride will get you far for sure. Sometimes you do need to push the limits a little and that has nothing to do with fear. You have to feel when it's time to let things cool or back off a bit that's it. Why do you think we have clutch temps warnings on big rigs even with automated gearboxes. Try to take off even half the max weight of a big semi with limited traction on a big hill a few times. Things will get hot quickly. Our race driver welded the clutch to the flywheel on the race truck too, and it's a very expensive part, sintered metalic pucks disc. Just slipped too much on the start.
@@frozenpete788 It seems you also have a lot of experience as well then. But we are looking at it from different angles, you are worried the clutch might give out if it is very worn or almost at the end of its service life. That is a fair point, it is more likely to happen, certainly. I am looking at it from the view that the clutch is in good, servicable condition to start with. If you are stuck in mud or similar or doing heavy offroading with a lot of clutch slip and high throttle levels it is more likely you will burn the clutch, indeed. But common sense goes a long way. If you can smell it, its time to back off for a while, as I am sure you know. Anyway, believe me when I say that if the clutch isnt on its last legs, there is no reasonable on road towing a normal weight race car + trailer that will have any adverse affect on a cayenne with manual gearbox such as this one. I guarantee it. Also, the cayenne of this model also have a low range, which if used put even less strain on the clutch. So dont let that dissuade you. Cheers.
No PDCC! Relatively lower spec edition with some of the hard plastics on the dash and door...but still. Awesome cars, I wouldn't trade mine for anything short of a supercar (that I could sell) cause there's nothing else like it!
@Tedward Great review. But I love all your reviews. Incredibly detailed and descriptive. You really feel like you can get a real sense of how each car drives and each car's individual qualities with your reviews. By the way, have you reviewed an early pre-s4 porsche 928 5 speed manual yet? I'd love to hear your impressions on one. Preferably maybe an 86.5 model, which combined some later S4 upgrades with the earlier body and a 5.0L I believe, at least for the US models. A Euro spec 928S 5-speed would be even better, if you can get your hands on one to review. I'm putting it out there, in case anyone has one to lend to @Tedward.
I've been trying to find one of these, one of the ultra rare Porsche's I been trying to get my hands on. I looked at a Black GTS when I was in high school when they came out. Now this one is gone Damnit!
The only bad thing about this Porsche cayenne from this era are the miles most of them are 80, 100k miles or more so people squeeze all the juice from these cars
@@VMAdventures88 I think the 2nd gen Cayennes have more miles than the 1st gen. I think it’s because the 2nd gen Cayenne offered 2 diesels. A V6 turbo diesel on a base Cayenne and V8 turbo diesel on the Cayenne S. My friend’s neighbor has a 2013 Cayenne with a diesel still working at 150 to 200k miles..
@@jonlosito2004 Wtf? Of course it would still work. 150k miles for a diesel is nothing. Many older Mercedes diesels (2000-2008) are close to 400K miles in Europe. Those are baby miles yall stating. I do nearly 50K miles annually and that's not something remarkable for Europe.
my dad just "upgraded" from an 09 S to a 14' GTS... old car was damn near perfect (with 350,000 km) new car has been nothing but issues and is a blingy uncomfortable mess.
Very intersting to see the manual in action, and a nice video too! Here's my review of the Porsche Cayenne Turbo: th-cam.com/video/dp7Polmw-xY/w-d-xo.html
wow...ain't that a thing. I thought they only made manuals for the V6's but dang..then again those are the only I could find her eon auto trader canada.
Never knew they were delivered with a manual, that’s so cool!
The second gen as well!
@@AStick3Pedals but very rare
@@johankhadka7157 indeed, the manual Panamera as well
@@AStick3Pedals there’s one guy that has a manual panamera s on youtube, made some fun video’s of it.
@@thatguy1119 from sweden right?
I just discovered these exist a month ago and I love everything about it.
Same 🙂
Enjoy:)
I was watching a movie with shia lebeuaf and the girl was driving the car. And I'm like huh? Cayenne in a manual
Yesterday for me. And I found a 2010 GTS!
I don't love where they put the emergency brake but I love plenty else!
My dad's friend used to have an 08 model. Being a 7 year old at that time, I got to rev it one time. One of the mightiest feelings a kid can have!
I never knew Cayenne came in as a manual! Sad that they aren't around anymore.
Poverty specs V6's did
Good riddance that there not around anymore
@@henrik1743wrong this is a 4.8 GTS
@@chrisj5978 I know?
@@henrik1743 is the GTS a poverty spec v6?
A dealership in Florida was selling a black/black Cayenne GTS manual w/80k miles earlier this summer for $16k. I was fast, but not fast enough and I’m still haunted by it.
don't be, its a electronical nightmare which throws every sort of error at you without hesitation.
@@azeQify Not with me. Very reliable. High mileage examples are abundant which speaks for itself.
@@azeQify that’s fine. It would’ve been a toy, not a daily.
@@azeQify the 957 is generally a very reliable car. The forums and groups are littered with 200k plus mile examples with minimal repairs.
@@vwjetta4138 did you experience starter problems?
Gotta love the binaural audio, it's so damn immersive. Love your video's! They're straight to the point and without useless ads, keep up the good work!
To this day, I still have no idea what ‘binaural’ means
I wear a microphone in each ear so if you wear headphones it’s an accurate representation of what’s being heard by a human
@@TedwardDrives Definitely the GOAT
@@jsuahdhaknksja2499 GOAT tech
@@TedwardDrives How do you record the audio in these videos? Do you use like airpods or something?
I had no idea there was a manual trans in any Cayenne that’s wild!
I see "manual", I instantly click the like button, no matter what car is.
I got one with 160k miles on it. Still runs great and it’s so fun to drive on the daily! I grew up witching my dad drive it and now I get to do it is awesome
How’s the reliability and gas mileage?
When I was ordering mine, I wanted a manual and the dealer practically arm wrestled me into the auto... I should’ve gone with my gut. “996 vibes” totally accurate and that’s why I love it 🙂
Big comfy, performance oriented SUV that you can row through your own gears. If that isn't heaven I don't know what is.
Exactly- there are too many SUVs now that are slow with a mushy ride quality and NOT manual (not to mention many of them look the same) :-P
I own an 04 e53 X5 3.0 6 spd & I love it! Just dropped another engine in at 202k miles #savethemanual
Love this generation of Cayenne. It just feels like the gen which Porsche gave it the real juice and its before "platformization" . The pre-facelift first gen cayenne were very old-looking to me when the facelift definitely fixed it all. I was a kid back then and til this day I still think the first gen facelifted Cayenne is the best Cayenne.
7:08 Ah the Achilles heel of commuting in a manual. Getting left behind by modern 4 cylinder CVTs during the 1 to 2 shift... Then blasting by them in second.
kills me every time...but its not worth power shifting it and potentially harming it lol. Patience!
@@TedwardDrives 100%. I’d rather see taillights than smell clutch!
I have been in countless discussion about, “automatic” vs Manual.
And the common theme is that you have someone who doesn’t get or understand the “thing” with manual transmission, most of them can’t even drive “stick” or if the can they aren’t that good at it.
Yes modern “Automatics” are “better” they are faster, “easier and more comfortable” to drive, but that isn’t what it is about, speed isn’t everything, you can’t beat the experience of driving a manual, shifting your own gears, being in complete control of the clutch and transmission, manuals usually age better because there isn’t any that goes out of date (apart from your self).
Even though (modern) “automatics” are objectively better at pretty much everything, I still prefer manual cars for the enjoyment factor, i daily drive a manual, both my cars are manuals.
What I’m trying to say is, in my opinion you can’t beat the feeling, experience of driving a “stick shift”, you sort of become a part of the car in a way that you don’t do with an “automatic”.
This is true. I've already seen two of my friends whom ive encouraged to buy a stick shift car change how they think. They now only want to drive stick. The second guy I put on originally was going to purchase a DCT F80 M3, and ever since I told him to buy a beater stick shift car, completely changed how he felt. He currently owns a Manual 2018 Bmw M3 haha
This engine is what made me fall in love with my 958 Cayenne S, I couldn’t imagine how fun it’d be with a manual. Nice video as always!
After stepping up to an Infiniti FX50 last year I think a GTS manual like this should be the next Dad Mobile I'm going to strive for.
I saw one of these at a Porsche dealer a few months ago that was fully modified for overlanding. I need one now.
Those are the rarest Cayennes ever!! They had one of those on Cars & Bids. I wish Doug DeMuro could review a rare quirky manual Porsche Cayenne GTS Transsyberia
No Transsyberia manuals as far as I know! Manuals came on the base V6 or the V8 GTS only
@@chir0pter 955 4.5 V8 NA models in Europe came in manual as well (Cayane S).
My uncle has a 2008 GTS. holds a special place in my heart for making me love Porsches
Alot of people hate the looks of the gen 1 cayenne but somehow this facelifted model, i kinda dig it.
Gen one turbo looks like a really fat 996 turbo from the front. It can still look cool with the right wheels and color. Gen 2 is more its own thing, looks i bit more "classy", but maybe a bit more boring.
Finally someone who agrees the Porsche cayenne 955 and 957 is the best looking ones.
First 5 seconds of video and saw a manual gear changing. Hit the like button immediatelly.
My God, I fell in love. Throw some nice new Apple CarPlay unit in there and you got a brilliant all around car!
I’ve always known these existed! I’ve absolutely loved these, been always turned off by possibility reliability issues.
Man, when you got onto that on ramp and you had to slow down because there was a model s in fron of you and you activated the blinker, it just looked so angrily done and i totallly feel you ted hahaha
you read me like a book lol
I see this gts lacks the PDCC. You would be surprised how much that does to the stability of the car. I have a 957 turbo family cruiser, this heavy thing can handle some corners indeed!
Are you me?
Very cool, I used to have a customer with a 2011 or so 3.6 vr6 6 speed. Was super awkward and didnt like it. Never knew they put it in the GTS, now thats cool.
I have a Gen 2 Man, love it. Too bad only came on the 6. Amazing daily
I remember seeing the Transsyberia variant (GTS engine and final drive) new at the dealer and stunned that someone would want it with the gaudy orange accents and gauges. Didn't realize there were about 100 in the country and it would have such a following
Added to the list of things I don't need but really want
I used to work for a Mclaren dealership years ago, and this was basically our shop truck. So I drove one around for quite a while, and I had no idea they ever came in a manual! Cool video!
Tedward, I absolutely LOVE your POV videos, I do sometimes wish you'd drive some "normal" cars, I'd love to see this kind of video using a Ford Focus for example! Might be a good idea for a second channel... 🤔 Love your work!!
I test Drove the non manual a long time ago. The only Porsche I ever driven
My dad baught a first gen cayenne right off the showroom floor in 2005 and he said he was worried about driving me around in it because he was worried about the stiff suspension damaging my brain. He still did but prefered to drive his 91 300se w140 which was a very reliable trouper and cls 55 (which was much more comfortable) back to the point 16 years later I ride in the cayenne I completely agree with him the suspension is probably the hardest riding suspension out of almost any car I've ridden in still love the car.
What? What the kind of cars are you comparing to, its not stiff at all compared to almost anything that is supposed to be "sporty". In fact, its about on the same level as a newer normal european station wagon. "damage the brain", talk about different perspectives. Wild. Let me assure you, it wouldnt have. Proably hust something your father said to keep you out of the car.
@@GoldenCroc that was a joke but our base cayenne that I’ve been riding in my hole life has some of the stiffest suspension I’ve felt but the car handles very well and is surefooted at high speed the suspension on that car is particularly jarring on rough road compared to the other cars I have driven.
@@romans7177 Yeah, its pretty stiff compared to many cars, and certainly all lot of others in 2005, and for a SUV its extremely stiff for its time, yeah. As you surmised, its setup for high speed, which would have been a big use back in its country of origin. Cheers.
Been driving my 957GTS 6 speed for like 6 years, mine has pdcc and I changed the steering wheel to a 992 one. Made a major difference. The only thing I wished i had is the pano roof.
1st gear is useless but it has so much torque that 2nd gear starts are fine
I said the same thing about first but cut it out of the video 😂. Glad to see it corroborated
@@TedwardDrives 😂😂
@@frederickcook87 Whats the reliability on a your Cayenne? I'm so tempted by one of these in the near future but never found a manual cayenne owner to ask. 😅
@@Jephph13bREW my GTS is the second Cayenne that I’ve owned, had an S model before. Both rock solid and dependable… drinks gas though… and a lot of VW parts fit
@@TedwardDrives I think it's like partly that the 1st gear is so short so that makes 2nd relatively tall? Which means it's hard to keep the revs up during that 1-2 shift, especially since the dual-mass flywheel has to get up to speed? Iunno
Manual Cayenne-FANTASTIC!
Had no idea this was a thing but I am so here for it
I always have liked this 1st gen Cayenne because it looked more upright and suv-ish in profile.
I own an 04 e53 X5 3.0 6 spd & absolutely love it! Just dropped another engine in at 202k miles & shes still rolling #savethemanua ..would love to have one of these GTS manuals 🔥
I had no idea that Porsche made a Cayenne with a manual transmission. So amazing. 👍👍🔥🔥🔥
When i see an Tedward upload, Its only mandatory for me to click.
Legend
@@TedwardDrives 💯💯💯
Very cool! I had a manual 958 for a bit, and really loved it. I've been wanting to check one of these earlier GTS 6-speeds ever since!
Such an awesome vehicle.
I had that same Car / Colour combo a few years back. Still miss the sound, performance and general sense of occasion. Don't miss the fuel bills and harsh ride around town. (Disclaimer - Mine did not have Air Suspension - which I recommend in retrospect 😁)
Those buttons aren't blank just from being used. A bunch of auto manufacturers around that time used a really crappy paint to mark their switches that would easily come off when detailing. Usually didn't notice it on cheap cars as they're rarely detailed, cars like this Cayenne would be detailed regularly though
Seems to be a mostly US condition though, rarely see it in northern europe. I have a few thoughts on why that is.
You keep out doing yourself with neat cars to drive. Amazing!
Didn’t know they even existed! Must admit I skipped this one when it first published, but that’s because I missed the part about manual transmission 😃
Great start to my day!🔥🔥
Wow so cool i found your chanel. Keep going. Greetings from Germany. very nice area you are leaving too.
We appreciate the tunnel revs😌
Yo bro. I used to be the first person on the video but had an accident. Went in a comma , but dont worry im fine now and it feels good to know that you have been uploading tje best videos😍😍
Woah!! Glad you’re alright Justin
This car is 10/10 for sure but...
Porsche wtf were you thinking with that steering wheel?
they really threw out the baby with the bathwater when designing that wheel
I replaced mine with a 992 wheel 😉
@@frederickcook87 would love to see a write up on this!
@@manhatton407 it’s an easy swap… was hell getting the original wheel off though
Reminds me of the Vectors steering wheel
Absolute Ace, why don't they get that is what we like to drive (well except the two tonne SUV part)
Haha! Friend of mine has one from new. Tried selling a few years ago and couldn't give it away so he decided to keep it as a backup car. Now these are very sought after. They only made them in the hundreds, might even be a collectible at some point.
That's the best model. I had the 07 silver GTS a few years back. It felt solid on the road. A manual would of been cooler.
Peasant blockers!
The sound of the car is soo good When it's in sport mode🤤
90s an early 00s are the best era for cars
It might sound crazy but I never knew there was a manual version still really cool gen of the cayenne
Definitely a rare option and only the strange enthusiasts know to hunt for them
I thought these cars were only automatic, it sounds so nice
Man, there's a lot of cars I need to drive
I remember playing with the Porsche car configurator, 911 and Cayennes. I remember the trans Syberia face-lift edition! I'd totally see myself towing my track nugget with that gts, clutch might say otherwise ahah
Doubt the clutch would give out unless one really cant drive stick at all. All of europe is filled with manual cars with way lesser clutches than this car has, towing heavy caravans and boats since time immemorial.
@@GoldenCroc I live in Europe and depending on where you live, burning a clutch is easier than you think if you are not a bit careful. Ever tried a X3 2.0d on a hill ? believe me you don't have even have to tow anything.
@@frozenpete788 Hi Pete. I dont know what to tell you that couldnt be taken as an insult. Please believe me when I tell you that is not my intent.
A bit of background: I have driven a car very similar to the one you describe, and many others like it, using the same driveline. I have towed heavy objects which are multiples of the cars maximum tow rating. I have done hill starts in heavy gradients with and without heavy trailers behind for years. Never a problem. Never replaced a clutch or even had any discernable wear on any of the cars I have owned.
What is my secret? I dont think I am some kind of superman, as evidenced by the fact that many others can do it. I think its just practice. It took me quite some time to get this good, rome wasnt built in a day. So thats I what I would advise; more practice, and its likely your fears/problems regarding this will go away. Cheers.
@@GoldenCroc no offense taken. I mostly drive manuals (9 cars on 10), I tow my stuff around with an A6 avant Quattro tiptronic because its the only trans option and that has a hitch. I've driven cars on road and track, 4x4, heavy duty trucks. Believe me heating a clutch and burning it doesn't take much if it has seen use or it's older. You might get away with a brand new one sometimes and it depends. The clutch on my 530d has 257.000kms and is original, the trans on the A6 has 347.000 and is original too never been opened. Take the original clutch on my e30, the disc is warped when hot. Being gentle with your ride will get you far for sure. Sometimes you do need to push the limits a little and that has nothing to do with fear. You have to feel when it's time to let things cool or back off a bit that's it. Why do you think we have clutch temps warnings on big rigs even with automated gearboxes. Try to take off even half the max weight of a big semi with limited traction on a big hill a few times. Things will get hot quickly. Our race driver welded the clutch to the flywheel on the race truck too, and it's a very expensive part, sintered metalic pucks disc. Just slipped too much on the start.
@@frozenpete788 It seems you also have a lot of experience as well then.
But we are looking at it from different angles, you are worried the clutch might give out if it is very worn or almost at the end of its service life. That is a fair point, it is more likely to happen, certainly.
I am looking at it from the view that the clutch is in good, servicable condition to start with.
If you are stuck in mud or similar or doing heavy offroading with a lot of clutch slip and high throttle levels it is more likely you will burn the clutch, indeed. But common sense goes a long way. If you can smell it, its time to back off for a while, as I am sure you know.
Anyway, believe me when I say that if the clutch isnt on its last legs, there is no reasonable on road towing a normal weight race car + trailer that will have any adverse affect on a cayenne with manual gearbox such as this one. I guarantee it. Also, the cayenne of this model also have a low range, which if used put even less strain on the clutch. So dont let that dissuade you. Cheers.
No PDCC! Relatively lower spec edition with some of the hard plastics on the dash and door...but still. Awesome cars, I wouldn't trade mine for anything short of a supercar (that I could sell) cause there's nothing else like it!
Did not know this existed
Also this porsche v8 sounds great.
You should record one of the 2013-2014 manual Cayennes
@Tedward Great review. But I love all your reviews. Incredibly detailed and descriptive. You really feel like you can get a real sense of how each car drives and each car's individual qualities with your reviews. By the way, have you reviewed an early pre-s4 porsche 928 5 speed manual yet? I'd love to hear your impressions on one. Preferably maybe an 86.5 model, which combined some later S4 upgrades with the earlier body and a 5.0L I believe, at least for the US models. A Euro spec 928S 5-speed would be even better, if you can get your hands on one to review. I'm putting it out there, in case anyone has one to lend to @Tedward.
I missing the days when they made good suv like cayenne and touareg.
That lower final drive ratio gets me. I wonder if the same is true for the non manual GTS.
Shout out to the dude who ordered this new with the 6 speed to eventually give us the pleasure of watching this video over a decade later
I've been trying to find one of these, one of the ultra rare Porsche's I been trying to get my hands on. I looked at a Black GTS when I was in high school when they came out. Now this one is gone Damnit!
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My dad had a 2007 and I learned manual on it before he sold it. He wishes he never sold it because the prices have shot up so hard!!!
My mom would *love* one of these! But, they've got a Porsche badge, and they're rare, so that means $$$.
this could be a candidate for the ultimate daily haha
These things are EVERYWHERE on German roads. It feels like every second poache you see is a cayenne or a cayman
How do these 09/10/11 cayennes compare to an X5 of the same years?
The only bad thing about this Porsche cayenne from this era are the miles most of them are 80, 100k miles or more so people squeeze all the juice from these cars
80k miles cayenne 🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 literally 2017 models are at 80k miles now
@@VMAdventures88 exactly that's my point 🤣 that's sad men
Me i would buy a 911 because it's stay in value with time and is a good fast car
@@VMAdventures88 I think the 2nd gen Cayennes have more miles than the 1st gen. I think it’s because the 2nd gen Cayenne offered 2 diesels. A V6 turbo diesel on a base Cayenne and V8 turbo diesel on the Cayenne S. My friend’s neighbor has a 2013 Cayenne with a diesel still working at 150 to 200k miles..
@@jonlosito2004 Wtf? Of course it would still work. 150k miles for a diesel is nothing. Many older Mercedes diesels (2000-2008) are close to 400K miles in Europe. Those are baby miles yall stating. I do nearly 50K miles annually and that's not something remarkable for Europe.
When your toddler insists on traveling at top speed to Pre-School AND The Nordschleife.
I really wanted a Cayenne but needed 3 rows, so I picked up its cousin instead, the V6 supercharged Q7.
I agree that the 1st generation was the best looking.
No you let out the Secret. Now these will skyrocket lol
Essa porsche é top demais kkkkk
There's couple for sale with the manual transmission but...
Both of them have over 300tkm on the clock..
That Alfa in the rearview mirror at 9:58 would probably smoke this :p
Pretty much anything would smoke this.
@@TedwardDrives when I think about it, yeah 😂 but the v8 gurgle is so nice
my dad just "upgraded" from an 09 S to a 14' GTS... old car was damn near perfect (with 350,000 km) new car has been nothing but issues and is a blingy uncomfortable mess.
u should review the turbo s of the same gen (957)
Very intersting to see the manual in action, and a nice video too! Here's my review of the Porsche Cayenne Turbo: th-cam.com/video/dp7Polmw-xY/w-d-xo.html
Oh thats hot!
Watching this as a welder researching commuter cars so I'm not driving my big manual transmission dodge pickup everywhere lol
sounds great but could be louder :D
@tedward have you driven 958.1 gts?
wow...ain't that a thing. I thought they only made manuals for the V6's but dang..then again those are the only I could find her eon auto trader canada.
Plz do a vid with a Plymouth barracuda plz
Eagle Eye vibes seeing a Porsche suv with a stick.
Mk2 Cayenne also came as manual in USA
20 minute gang
I Might have to get a new daily
Do an E53 manual X5, if you can even find one
Time to manual saw a panamera.... unless those were made too 🤔