@@8359s Auto rev match works fine. I've had Rick's 2-5 ratios in my GT4 since 2020 and the auto rev match functions perfectly; all the shop did was pop in the new gears and the car figured it out, no ECU reprogramming. You’ll have to find a Porsche/VW engineer to explain it, because there is zero information out there that details how exactly this system works, but it’s definitely not tied to the gearing itself; in all probability it’s a combination of sensors and the ECU doing all the work.
Posting this in the main comments because it’s been asked a couple times: auto rev match works fine with these new ratios. I've had Rick's 2-5 ratios in my 981 GT4 since 2020 and the auto rev match functions perfectly; all the shop did was pop in the new gears and the car figured it out. No ECU reprogramming was needed. You’ll have to find a Porsche/VW engineer to explain it, because there is zero information out there that details how exactly this system works, but it’s definitely not tied to the gearing itself; in all probability it’s a combination of sensors (i.e. likely those on the flywheel, input/output shafts in the trans, etc.) and the ECU doing all the work. From a shop and driver perspective these gears are plug and play.
With the appropriate sensors relating to engine speed and gearbox output speed, you can calculate the effective gear ratios, hence why the ECU adapts to the new gearing. It's fairly simple math!
People preferring this over the 911 is the exact reason that Porsche leaves the gears long on this platform. It would absolutely cannibalize their honey line which is the 911s. I love the 718s. They’re just the most perfect realization of sports car driving.
This car is an absolute heartthrob! Even through the video, you can tell the gearing and exhaust add so much more to the table. Love the spec too. I also really dig how the vanity plate doesn’t look like a vanity plate 😉
This is really how the car should've left the factory. The gearing was always the Achilles' Heel, taking the satisfying punch out of the car. Crazy to have to cough up so much extra cash to make the car right, but the only way to go.
I had chills looking and listening at your review. What a blast to drive. I love short geared manual transmission, this means you shift more often. This video revives my passion for driving, and i just want to drive manual cars until i die.
I just swapped my Ap1 S2000 transmission with an Ap2 transmission to have shorter 1-4th and a taller 6th. its a small change in ratios but its so much better
@@philspaghet its absolutely worth the trouble. I went ahead and swapped my clutch with a new oem disc at the same time and an 8lb flywheel. It's exactly how the AP1 should have come
As to the long gearing here is how I deal with it: For driving around town, I shift twice and drive pretty much drive as fast as I need in 2nd gear. Also, I enjoy shifting, so generally, I just shift early and I just miss out on the the high revving. When I need to hear some engine noise and feel the revving, I wait for the highway on ramp or find a point on the road where I have some space, and step on it. The long 2nd gear actually gives you best of both worlds - easy around town, and fun when you want it. I have gotten used to it and like it.
It is surely a thoughtful design to promote clutch longevity, per manufacturer. Would someone want to buy one and shift as often per mph as a commuter car...yes and no.
Get you a good aftermarket exhaust. It makes short shifting almost as enjoyable as going to redline….almost. I have Kline…OPF and backbox. Did not get the headers and don’t feel the need. It SCREAMS and really transforms the car!
You are quite right, this revised manual 6 speed gearbox is spot on. Its predecessor probably had emission controls only in mind. How they resolved this matter with the new gearbox, I haven’t the slightest, but your POV drive shows it is the only satisfying solution. And my are you enjoying it (and so are we !) 😎
@@dietznutz1 Definitely that would be cheaper... except the problem is, a new diff means *all* the gears are shorter, including 6th, which means you lose the ability to cruise at a relaxed engine speed. I would get the modified mid-range gears without losing the cruising speed overdrive any day over a simple diff change.
No, auto rev match works fine. I've had Rick's 2-5 ratios in my GT4 since 2020 and the auto rev match functions perfectly; all the shop did was pop in the new gears and the car figured it out. You’ll have to find a Porsche/VW engineer to explain it, because there is zero information out there that details how exactly this system works, but the rev match function is definitely not tied to the gearing itself; in all probability it’s a combination of sensors (i.e. on the flywheel, possibly on the input/output shafts in the trans, etc.) + the ECU doing all the work.
Rev match it yourself dude. Haha naa but it is fun just to let the automatch blip it down through each gear while coasting to a stop, without letting the clutch out, just to hear it.
@@MattH-wg7ou I learned on a car without anything and even test driving new cars with autorev-matching that I can't find how to turn off is an instant deal breaker. How easy it and responsive the car is when heel-toeing or rev-matching downshifts is such a huge part of the experience. Otherwise it feels closer to sticking it in neutral and braking than doing it by yourself. I'm still getting better at it but I don't see how people don't find learning new driving techniques fun in otherwise mundane driving.
Hey ted, hope you stay safe tomorrow, however could we expect an early storm snow drive? Not really wanting you to risk your life but i know you like to do snow videos when possible, especially since this should be the last storm for a long while
Great review, went with the 18 way seats and am so glad I did. At 6’2, 225 and an athletic frame the buckets crushed unless I was just doing track driving, which I don’t in the Spyder. Regarding resale, could care less. Not selling the car. Once I’m out of warranty, the Denam gearing is top on the list. For exhaust, the Kline inconnel is spectacular.
Not that a Honda is comparable... but as someone that afforded a 5 year old 6-6 Accord... many buyers complained about the shortness of the first 4 gears.... its literally the best part! Red line 2nd at 50mph/80kmh 3rd at 70/110 4th at 120/190 ... governor stops you at 125mph
i love how people complain about HIGH REVVING engines that need to be REV'D HIGH then go "it's not a deal breaker"... like dude, this is who this car is.
Well I think the complaint here is not that the engine is high reving but that the original gearing leaves you kind of out of the powerband a lot. Having driven an older Boxster extensively with similar tall gearing you had to go into first on a lot of thight corners on small country roads since second was geared so damn tall. It was more noticeable on the smaller displacement 3.4 and 3.2 engines. The gearing made no sense honestly. I think it was not soo much for emission etc but to keep them separated from the 911 line.
@@skylerssupercarlife348 , if your antislip has to reduce power to avoid spinning wheels it is a waste. Better like that. If you want a car where you have to shift alot buy a weaker car. A 2 CV hat 4 gears to 40 mph.
Nice video! Do they change the gearing in the transmission or in the differential? Also does the company that makes the gearing change give the car owner a drivetrain warranty to compensate for invalidating the Porsche factory warranty?
It is in the gearing. If it were the differential, it would be one final drive ratio across all gears. If the gears had an “even proportion” between them, changing the final drive ratio might work. BUT….while 2nd and 3rd are the LONG gears, 6th is actually short for an overdrive gear. IIRC, 70mph is about 3000RPM with the stock ratios…..3400@80mph. If you increased the final drive ratio to improve 2nd and 3rd, that would make 6th even worse. Can you imagine 3800rpm at 80mph?? That would suck for many reasons….noise and economy mainly. Deman actually makes sixth gear taller than stock likely giving it better gas mileage and possibly less noise.
I have a Spyder with 7 speed PDK looks like the Deman gear set gives you similar gearing to the PDK over 70 in 2nd gear cruising in 7th gear 2500 rpm gives you 77 mph. I love it still get your kicks clicking through the gears on the paddles and it hits 60 in 3.7 rather than 4.4 with the manual. The PDK also get a bump in torque so do t rule them out.
Always love these seeing these videos because I always recognize the area. I fly into that airport you started the video all the time, and live about 5 minutes from it.
I think alot of people skip over the fact that the motor that's in the 718 is the same motor that's in the 911 turbo... The reason why it can feel a little lack luster ever tho 420hp is great for 3200lbs is that it's meant to have boost behind it. Instead of just giving it its own motor it gave it a motor they already had and just took the boost out. People get smart and start boosting these 2nd generation 718s they're going to be nasty little weapons
low/mid 70mph at top of 2nd is still pretty tall, do they make a slightly higher final drive diff to go with it? The stock engine is more than enough for street / light track use. Honestly I don't see the point of a 4.5L, it'll be stupid fast and probably less enjoyable on the road IMO. I really like this car, would love to get one but not at the expense of selling my 997 GT3
I would design my cars to be fun and fast. I designed a roadster with a boxer 8 engine and a 7 speed manual, where 2nd gear peaks at 65 mph (At its 8,100 rpm redline) so that you could wind out 2nd more often. The fun of driving is more important than speed.
Wow, that completely transforms the car! I kind of feel like I need to start looking for one of these now, to do a conversion! Great video, and bringing attention to the shop that did this!
Does anyone know if this modification also fixes the other problem with this manual transmission? The reviewers complain a lot about the long gear ratios, but never mention that most manual 718 GTS/GT4 cars occasionally grind when shifting from first to second, at least for the first couple of thousand miles. I guess shortening second gear should make the synchro’s job easier, and could fix this other problem too.
Video on the channel with at least one Taycan. Great car. Range is a little too short for the price but the handling and quality is a world above Tesla
That new gearing sounds proper! Thats a cool spec as well. Best 718 Spyder video I have seen alot of the vids are just boring. Actually thinking of trading my s2000 to put money down on one. I couldnt help but think Honda should have given us a new competitor for this so I dont have to pay 100k for convertible that has modern performance and the style and drivability of that car. I think the porsche should have even better interior and gadgets for that price, but thats my only neg about that whip. Even if the SLS had a manual gearbox, thats my new wish for a convertible.
Very nice car and the only roofless car that really sparked my interest. Thanks for sharing the drive! For me, it is unbeliveable one needs to spend 10k more to achieve what the car should have been in the first place, from factory. This car ticks all the boxes but the gear interaction. Heck, my E46 M3 has too long 2nd for my taste topping out at 65mph. This does, what, 80mph no problem in 2nd, I would get in sooo much trouble with it :D
I just drove the first few times with a old Toyota Corolla sportwagon from 2001, now im completely driving addicted besides beeing completely car addicted 😂 sadly i always need a passanger who has a liscence to drive till im 18😕🇨🇭😅 these vids are perfect for the times when there is no one around with a liscence to go for a drive 😅😂
Just a quick question which maybe video related but at slower speeds it sounds as if the transmission has a whining noise. Be interested to hear back as I have just bought a 718 Spyder in the UK and considering this conversion. Regards Martin.
I once had a BMW 533i that I swapped with a 3.73 lsd from an e30. Transformed the car. Added about 400rpm on the highway in 5th but made it useful in the 50 to 70 mph range. It does make one wonder why at what would be no cost to make, the Boxster/Cayman models could be even better!
@@grad0n Your M3 would have a direct 5th gear. So I imagine it was revving quite high at speed. On my old car it was direct 4th and .8 5th. So it was below 3000 under 80 mph. The problem was gearing suitable for cruising at 90 or 100mph plus which is not suitable here in US or Canada. I think the M5 had a 3.91 diff. Changing the diff on these cars is a great way gain performance when factory options exist.
@@davidbee9563 5th was 1:1 and every 1Krpm in 5th was 20mph with the 3.73, so you didn’t “accidentally” speed when you were above 3K-the Supersprint and Corsa exhaust told on you!
The gearing seems pretty similar to my 2021' MX-5 Miata which is phenomenal. It is a bit annoying that Porsche continues to keep the myth (that rear engine 911 is somehow superior to their mid-engine Boxster / Cayman platform..) Nobody in their right mind believes this but apparently Porsche is "in too deep" with the myth so they just have to keep it going that way plus 911 fanatics would have a mental breakdown..
It's a shame they hamstring the 718's to prop up the 911. No rear axle steer like in the Carrera S and up... no double wishbone front for the GT4/GT4RS like in the GT3.
I have an ND2 and I wish 1st and 2nd were a bit longer. 1st feels so useless with how short it is and it'd feel so unnatural if 2nd gear wasn't lengthened with 1st gear
I have an ND1. You can basically start off in 2nd gear. 1st is only necessary for parking or creeping in traffic. I don’t think I would want them longer though, the short ratios are what makes the car fun.
Would this be enough to sell the GT4/Spyder to you? Or would you also need the 4.5L engine swap from DeMan?
You want to try out a 981 4.5L to put this question to the test? 😉
Does auto rev matching still works? If they haven't modified values in the ECU it wouldn't be accurate anymore.
@@8359s it does perfectly
@@8359s Auto rev match works fine. I've had Rick's 2-5 ratios in my GT4 since 2020 and the auto rev match functions perfectly; all the shop did was pop in the new gears and the car figured it out, no ECU reprogramming.
You’ll have to find a Porsche/VW engineer to explain it, because there is zero information out there that details how exactly this system works, but it’s definitely not tied to the gearing itself; in all probability it’s a combination of sensors and the ECU doing all the work.
414 hp is plenty for the street. I’d buy one at MSRP (never would I pay $150k) and do the DeMan gearbox like this one.
Posting this in the main comments because it’s been asked a couple times: auto rev match works fine with these new ratios. I've had Rick's 2-5 ratios in my 981 GT4 since 2020 and the auto rev match functions perfectly; all the shop did was pop in the new gears and the car figured it out. No ECU reprogramming was needed.
You’ll have to find a Porsche/VW engineer to explain it, because there is zero information out there that details how exactly this system works, but it’s definitely not tied to the gearing itself; in all probability it’s a combination of sensors (i.e. likely those on the flywheel, input/output shafts in the trans, etc.) and the ECU doing all the work. From a shop and driver perspective these gears are plug and play.
With the appropriate sensors relating to engine speed and gearbox output speed, you can calculate the effective gear ratios, hence why the ECU adapts to the new gearing. It's fairly simple math!
6:13 The Mazda's MX-5 has short gearing and the perfect snickety shifter feel.
Completely agree. Best shifter I've used thus far. So easy to drive and downshift.
Those gear shiftings are satisfying 👌
People preferring this over the 911 is the exact reason that Porsche leaves the gears long on this platform. It would absolutely cannibalize their honey line which is the 911s. I love the 718s. They’re just the most perfect realization of sports car driving.
This thing seems infinitely more exciting than a 4 cylinder 718. Manual, NA, shorter gearing, yes please.
Who cares bout 4 cylinder?
@@c8z063 those that care about fuel prices and mileage
Sounds menacing as hell!!
@@teenagecarlover1567and ones that want a turbo
@@teenagecarlover1567then you don't want an $80k porsche
Porsche should offer a close range manual gearbox as a no-cost factory option 🤯
It should be offered even at a price if that’s what it takes for them to do it
LMAO, "No cost factory option" LMAO
Option yes, no cost = no chance, #Porsche
@@alsdm yeah, cool. learned this on my own a few months after posting. is your hobby being a contrarian dick on year-old youtube comments?
This car is an absolute heartthrob! Even through the video, you can tell the gearing and exhaust add so much more to the table. Love the spec too. I also really dig how the vanity plate doesn’t look like a vanity plate 😉
Matt Farrah is dying inside watching this!!
RIP to that Spyder!
Matt is getting the engine upgrade too. There is a video of the gt4 cayman plus the engine, gear swap. Its truly wild!
This is really how the car should've left the factory. The gearing was always the Achilles' Heel, taking the satisfying punch out of the car. Crazy to have to cough up so much extra cash to make the car right, but the only way to go.
I had chills looking and listening at your review. What a blast to drive. I love short geared manual transmission, this means you shift more often. This video revives my passion for driving, and i just want to drive manual cars until i die.
Omg, that gearbox sounds divine.
We need a 981 GT4 version of this video now.
I just swapped my Ap1 S2000 transmission with an Ap2 transmission to have shorter 1-4th and a taller 6th. its a small change in ratios but its so much better
I'm considering doing it to my AP1 too!
@@philspaghet its absolutely worth the trouble. I went ahead and swapped my clutch with a new oem disc at the same time and an 8lb flywheel. It's exactly how the AP1 should have come
As to the long gearing here is how I deal with it: For driving around town, I shift twice and drive pretty much drive as fast as I need in 2nd gear. Also, I enjoy shifting, so generally, I just shift early and I just miss out on the the high revving. When I need to hear some engine noise and feel the revving, I wait for the highway on ramp or find a point on the road where I have some space, and step on it. The long 2nd gear actually gives you best of both worlds - easy around town, and fun when you want it. I have gotten used to it and like it.
It is surely a thoughtful design to promote clutch longevity, per manufacturer.
Would someone want to buy one and shift as often per mph as a commuter car...yes and no.
Yup... I'd like to see which is faster to 80mph, because more shifting isn't your friend in a straight line.
Get you a good aftermarket exhaust. It makes short shifting almost as enjoyable as going to redline….almost. I have Kline…OPF and backbox. Did not get the headers and don’t feel the need. It SCREAMS and really transforms the car!
You are quite right, this revised manual 6 speed gearbox is spot on. Its predecessor probably had emission controls only in mind. How they resolved this matter with the new gearbox, I haven’t the slightest, but your POV drive shows it is the only satisfying solution. And my are you enjoying it (and so are we !) 😎
There is a company in California that added shorter gears for 911 Carreras for about $40,000. Only $10,000 is an absolute steal.
Hardly. A new diff would be so much cheaper
@@dietznutz1 Definitely that would be cheaper... except the problem is, a new diff means *all* the gears are shorter, including 6th, which means you lose the ability to cruise at a relaxed engine speed. I would get the modified mid-range gears without losing the cruising speed overdrive any day over a simple diff change.
@@AndrewLavigne if money is no object then yes but 10k for gears in your 90k Porsche is a no
Sharkwerks in Fremont CA changes the gearing for $10,000 but doesn’t change 2nd gear. Tightens up 3-4 shift primarily.
Looks like a great mod! Does it break the auto rev-matching though?
I’ll try it today. I haven’t used it yet
No, auto rev match works fine. I've had Rick's 2-5 ratios in my GT4 since 2020 and the auto rev match functions perfectly; all the shop did was pop in the new gears and the car figured it out.
You’ll have to find a Porsche/VW engineer to explain it, because there is zero information out there that details how exactly this system works, but the rev match function is definitely not tied to the gearing itself; in all probability it’s a combination of sensors (i.e. on the flywheel, possibly on the input/output shafts in the trans, etc.) + the ECU doing all the work.
@@thejackamo That’s just good engineering.
Rev match it yourself dude.
Haha naa but it is fun just to let the automatch blip it down through each gear while coasting to a stop, without letting the clutch out, just to hear it.
@@MattH-wg7ou I learned on a car without anything and even test driving new cars with autorev-matching that I can't find how to turn off is an instant deal breaker. How easy it and responsive the car is when heel-toeing or rev-matching downshifts is such a huge part of the experience. Otherwise it feels closer to sticking it in neutral and braking than doing it by yourself. I'm still getting better at it but I don't see how people don't find learning new driving techniques fun in otherwise mundane driving.
Man these things look soooo good, and this makes it even more enticing
The guy in the GMC at 8:48 is really cruising, easily 90-95 MPH.
Great review, great You recognized the value of the manual transmission👍 Big greetings to You from sunny Croatia🇭🇷
Hey ted, hope you stay safe tomorrow, however could we expect an early storm snow drive?
Not really wanting you to risk your life but i know you like to do snow videos when possible, especially since this should be the last storm for a long while
We got a little snow the other night but nothing stuck to the roads
Great review, went with the 18 way seats and am so glad I did. At 6’2, 225 and an athletic frame the buckets crushed unless I was just doing track driving, which I don’t in the Spyder. Regarding resale, could care less. Not selling the car. Once I’m out of warranty, the Denam gearing is top on the list. For exhaust, the Kline inconnel is spectacular.
Not that a Honda is comparable... but as someone that afforded a 5 year old 6-6 Accord... many buyers complained about the shortness of the first 4 gears.... its literally the best part! Red line 2nd at 50mph/80kmh 3rd at 70/110 4th at 120/190 ... governor stops you at 125mph
Porsche crests pointing to valve stems, well done 😎
i love how people complain about HIGH REVVING engines that need to be REV'D HIGH then go "it's not a deal breaker"... like dude, this is who this car is.
Well I think the complaint here is not that the engine is high reving but that the original gearing leaves you kind of out of the powerband a lot. Having driven an older Boxster extensively with similar tall gearing you had to go into first on a lot of thight corners on small country roads since second was geared so damn tall. It was more noticeable on the smaller displacement 3.4 and 3.2 engines. The gearing made no sense honestly. I think it was not soo much for emission etc but to keep them separated from the 911 line.
@@crabapple1974what's the problem with going into first?
Having to hit 90mph just to wring out 2nd is ridiculous.
@@skylerssupercarlife348 , if your antislip has to reduce power to avoid spinning wheels it is a waste. Better like that. If you want a car where you have to shift alot buy a weaker car. A 2 CV hat 4 gears to 40 mph.
Every Spyder needs this! Unfortunately, it’s expensive… and does void the warranty.
what a spec! and shortened gears just seal the deal. This car would go for crazy money on BaT
Matt Farrah went to DeMan and drove their souped up one . Fast car for sure . Trans mod seems like a great one in either version .
Rick took me out in a 4.5L car. It was quite fast haha
Nice video! Do they change the gearing in the transmission or in the differential? Also does the company that makes the gearing change give the car owner a drivetrain warranty to compensate for invalidating the Porsche factory warranty?
It is in the gearing. If it were the differential, it would be one final drive ratio across all gears. If the gears had an “even proportion” between them, changing the final drive ratio might work. BUT….while 2nd and 3rd are the LONG gears, 6th is actually short for an overdrive gear. IIRC, 70mph is about 3000RPM with the stock ratios…..3400@80mph. If you increased the final drive ratio to improve 2nd and 3rd, that would make 6th even worse. Can you imagine 3800rpm at 80mph?? That would suck for many reasons….noise and economy mainly. Deman actually makes sixth gear taller than stock likely giving it better gas mileage and possibly less noise.
Awesome vid man!! 🔥
Gearing looks spot on. I couldn't live with the standard gearing.
I have a Spyder with 7 speed PDK looks like the Deman gear set gives you similar gearing to the PDK over 70 in 2nd gear cruising in 7th gear 2500 rpm gives you 77 mph. I love it still get your kicks clicking through the gears on the paddles and it hits 60 in 3.7 rather than 4.4 with the manual. The PDK also get a bump in torque so do t rule them out.
no one cares if its 5, 4 or 3 seconds, what matters is driver's engagement and no automatic can match that feeling
@@rafallo1333 I drive and race both and enjoy both. But I will say the PDK is better matched from stock.
Another banger. Congrats!! Love the MA plates!
Always love these seeing these videos because I always recognize the area. I fly into that airport you started the video all the time, and live about 5 minutes from it.
This car is amazing. The color the gearing is perfect. Dream daily.
Ford's Tremec rocks. Surprised you didn't mention it. Preserved in the Mach 1 and proudly moving forward in the Dark Horse.
The man who redid the gearing needs to team up with Porsche
I think alot of people skip over the fact that the motor that's in the 718 is the same motor that's in the 911 turbo... The reason why it can feel a little lack luster ever tho 420hp is great for 3200lbs is that it's meant to have boost behind it. Instead of just giving it its own motor it gave it a motor they already had and just took the boost out. People get smart and start boosting these 2nd generation 718s they're going to be nasty little weapons
These cars aren’t boosted, there are no turbos.
So which are you picking with this transmission; Spyder, Cayman GTS 4.0, or GT4?
low/mid 70mph at top of 2nd is still pretty tall, do they make a slightly higher final drive diff to go with it? The stock engine is more than enough for street / light track use. Honestly I don't see the point of a 4.5L, it'll be stupid fast and probably less enjoyable on the road IMO. I really like this car, would love to get one but not at the expense of selling my 997 GT3
The grip is legit. I have a track alignment on mine and on the stock tires I typically see between 1.3 and 1.4 lateral G's on my local on/off ramps.
It’s outrageous. This one could use a track alignment since it’s riding the sidewall pretty hard but just wow.
Besides needing a proper exhaust, it's a fantastic car. I want one so badly 😭.
I would design my cars to be fun and fast. I designed a roadster with a boxer 8 engine and a 7 speed manual, where 2nd gear peaks at 65 mph (At its 8,100 rpm redline) so that you could wind out 2nd more often. The fun of driving is more important than speed.
Tedward you deserve 1M subscribers and I know you'll get there
Wow, that completely transforms the car! I kind of feel like I need to start looking for one of these now, to do a conversion! Great video, and bringing attention to the shop that did this!
How does the insurance work with the mods and do they void the Porsche warranty ?
Does anyone know if this modification also fixes the other problem with this manual transmission? The reviewers complain a lot about the long gear ratios, but never mention that most manual 718 GTS/GT4 cars occasionally grind when shifting from first to second, at least for the first couple of thousand miles. I guess shortening second gear should make the synchro’s job easier, and could fix this other problem too.
your shifts are really nice to watch bro
I love manual transmission cars...❤🔥🔥
Take notes, Porsche! No excuses with all the feedback now
Man that on ramp rip. I want one!
You've got a new subscriber :)
this is now my new dream car, thanks
Tedward master of POV reviews
Have you ever driven a Porsche Taycan. I love those cars. I think they're superior electronic cars, better than a Tesla
Video on the channel with at least one Taycan. Great car. Range is a little too short for the price but the handling and quality is a world above Tesla
A shorter final drive was my fav mod for my Civic Si. If the gearbox is good and the engine is rev happy, it makes sense to change gears more often :)
That new gearing sounds proper! Thats a cool spec as well. Best 718 Spyder video I have seen alot of the vids are just boring. Actually thinking of trading my s2000 to put money down on one. I couldnt help but think Honda should have given us a new competitor for this so I dont have to pay 100k for convertible that has modern performance and the style and drivability of that car. I think the porsche should have even better interior and gadgets for that price, but thats my only neg about that whip. Even if the SLS had a manual gearbox, thats my new wish for a convertible.
I wish I could like a video twice
Very nice car and the only roofless car that really sparked my interest. Thanks for sharing the drive!
For me, it is unbeliveable one needs to spend 10k more to achieve what the car should have been in the first place, from factory. This car ticks all the boxes but the gear interaction. Heck, my E46 M3 has too long 2nd for my taste topping out at 65mph. This does, what, 80mph no problem in 2nd, I would get in sooo much trouble with it :D
Take another look. It has a roof, dear....
@@stanich054 Sorry, tent, or any fabric material for that matter, is not roof in my books. ;)
Makes the right sounds...
The gearbox is just great in traffic it’s not a track car OMG. Beautiful car btw probably the looking car on the market.
Any acceleration numbers on a before/after basis? I've got a Boxster GTS coming very soon. This mod is on the list.
Tedward: I love this car now
Me: me too
I just drove the first few times with a old Toyota Corolla sportwagon from 2001, now im completely driving addicted besides beeing completely car addicted 😂 sadly i always need a passanger who has a liscence to drive till im 18😕🇨🇭😅 these vids are perfect for the times when there is no one around with a liscence to go for a drive 😅😂
Can the spyder be a daily driver ? IS the car loud with top up or do you just go get the GTS 4.0 and do the gear change
Can't wait to get mine!
Yellow calipers would go well with the Gentian Blue, it goes very well with my GT Silver
6:59 to 7:18 looks like so much fun
this car is the way!!!!!!!!!! I like the hard top but this is my sports car pick for sure
Great video!
How much did Deman shorten the gears by? What is the price for the regearing? and how long does this process take?
Thanks
I have this same issue with my VW GTI, 2nd gear tops out past 70 mph which makes no sense for a car like the GTI.
Awesome idea to re-gear it. cool video.
Intoxicating video.
16:54 LOL I was configuring the GT4 in the background and I just got to the seat config part at this point, kinda scared me there Ted XD
Dat sound man...What kind of engine does it have? 4.0 6 cylinder boxer?
it's a Porsche marketing trick. They never give you the full package to keep you wanting more and upgrade.
What a beautiful colour
Loved your take on Demann transmission regear. Can you share what exhaust you upgraded to?
I don’t wanna save the manual. I like a super fast PDq and I’d like them to improve the PDq.
@Tedward, great review! Two questions 1) have you heard of anyone making a gear set change for PDK spyders and 2) do you wish the seats were heated?
I choose the sports seats instead of the buckets for my Spyder because I needed the heating to get my wife into the car. To each their own.
Who DeMan? You DeMan!
What did this do to the 0-60 and quarter mile?
Tedward, being the you have quite a bit of extensive testing; between the 981 GT4 and 718 GT4 which do you prefer and why?
The engine of the 981 sounds so much better...but the handling of the 982 is superior and it's faster. Gotta go 982.
And we back for the therapy!!!
Heyyy, how's it going??!!!!🙋🏻♂️
I’ll make one soon!
Yes!!!
Surely the 4.5 liter Flat-6 isn’t a stock engine ?
Miata has a great shifter too!
Really Nice. And if this shorter Gearing would also for PDK available, ist would be epic.
Just a quick question which maybe video related but at slower speeds it sounds as if the transmission has a whining noise. Be interested to hear back as I have just bought a 718 Spyder in the UK and considering this conversion. Regards Martin.
I once had a BMW 533i that I swapped with a 3.73 lsd from an e30. Transformed the car. Added about 400rpm on the highway in 5th but made it useful in the 50 to 70 mph range. It does make one wonder why at what would be no cost to make, the Boxster/Cayman models could be even better!
I swapped out the 3.15 in my 95 m3 for a 3.73 and it was awesome!
@@grad0n Your M3 would have a direct 5th gear. So I imagine it was revving quite high at speed. On my old car it was direct 4th and .8 5th. So it was below 3000 under 80 mph. The problem was gearing suitable for cruising at 90 or 100mph plus which is not suitable here in US or Canada. I think the M5 had a 3.91 diff. Changing the diff on these cars is a great way gain performance when factory options exist.
@@davidbee9563 5th was 1:1 and every 1Krpm in 5th was 20mph with the 3.73, so you didn’t “accidentally” speed when you were above 3K-the Supersprint and Corsa exhaust told on you!
The gearing seems pretty similar to my 2021' MX-5 Miata which is phenomenal. It is a bit annoying that Porsche continues to keep the myth (that rear engine 911 is somehow superior to their mid-engine Boxster / Cayman platform..) Nobody in their right mind believes this but apparently Porsche is "in too deep" with the myth so they just have to keep it going that way plus 911 fanatics would have a mental breakdown..
It's a shame they hamstring the 718's to prop up the 911. No rear axle steer like in the Carrera S and up... no double wishbone front for the GT4/GT4RS like in the GT3.
911 and Boxster/Cayman have identical gearing. Matt Farrah is an idiot, ‘Cayman Complex’.
Is there. A purpose for having 2nd gear redline at 80 mph ??
Can they do this for the 981 S transmission?
1:42 Hopedale airport!!
They don't want it to compete with their 911.
Any plans on driving the new GR86 from Toyota or Subaru?
Will Porsche ever consider offering this as an option?
So far my favorite manual shifter was the one in a 2010 Acura TL SH AWD. Loved the feel of it. Smooth, precise and just the right amount of leverage.
I have an ND2 and I wish 1st and 2nd were a bit longer. 1st feels so useless with how short it is and it'd feel so unnatural if 2nd gear wasn't lengthened with 1st gear
I have an ND1. You can basically start off in 2nd gear. 1st is only necessary for parking or creeping in traffic. I don’t think I would want them longer though, the short ratios are what makes the car fun.
Great car ND’s I miss mine