CHELSEA ACADEMY’S SECRETS 🤯 Chris Robinson | Perspectives
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- Chelsea Academy is known as one of the best in the world 🌎 Players such as Reece James, Conor Gallagher, Mason Mount, Jamal Musiala & Declan Rice all grew up at Cobham. Over the last 10 years, the club won 5 FA Youth Cups in a row and has consistently produced Premier League players 🏆 Chris Robinson was a crucial part of Chelsea's scouting team during this period and is here today to reveal to us exactly what goes on behind closed doors in an elite Premier League academy. ⚽️
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:37 How did you get into football?
2:33 - 4:20 How did you start at Chelsea?
4:20 - 5:24 What do you look for in players?
5:24 - 6:36 Scouting Evan Ferguson.
6:36 - 8:57 The best and worst players.
8:57 - 11:20 Why was Chelsea's recruitment so good?
11:20 - 12:54 How does scouting work in football?
12:54 - 14:34 Best player who hasn't fulfilled potential.
14:34 - 14:49 Coming Up
14:49 - 18:59 The loan system explained
18:59 - 20:03 Academy football in England
20:03 - 22:02 Scouting Dele Alli, Joe Gomez & Jadon Sancho
22:02 - 23:33 Who decides to sign a player?
23:33 - 24:05 Craziest way you've scouted a player.
24:05 - 27:39 Chelsea signing Darius from Rising Ballers
27:39 - 29:59 The darker side of football
29:59 - 30:14 Coming Up
30:14 - 35:24 Difficulties scouting and rejecting players.
35:24 - 38:28 Young footballers having too much money.
38:28 - 41:11 Why Chelsea started playing youngsters.
41:11 - 43:56 Mistakes in your career.
43:56 - 44:09 Coming Up
44:09 - 45:41 What kind of players make it.
45:41 - 47:58 What would you change about football?
47:58 - 50:57 Advice for players trying to make it
50:57 - 51:52 What’s next for you?
51:52 - 52:10 Question for The RB community.
52:10 - 52:25 Outro
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Who should we interview on Perspectives next? 🤔
Darius Johnson
Charley musunda &jaiden Clarke who I believe will be playing championship or prem in the next two years proper player
👀 @@cavaliib1889
Maybe a sporting director or someone of that nature, maybe they can provide a bit of insight into how they can affect a club’s structure & a bit more of what their roles actually require from them.🤷🏻♂️
Guys that came up with var
People don’t actually comprehend the value provided in this video, the fact it’s only at 10k views is criminal.
Hahahaha appreciate the kind words! Big up Chris - what an interview.
One of the most interesting videos out there. Rising Ballers always had great content and now pushing out even more. Love these footy channels .
Most people only care about Manchester United
Tell me about it
@@dondamon4669man utd have been irrelevant for more than a decent other than their transfers
I really love how open and honest he is about his misses. So much of football is people telling you about how they were right.
Big time - super humble guy.
He’s a scout who knows more than you armchair fanboys in the comment section.
This is one of the best football vids I’ve watched wow and especially as a Chelsea fan even bette!! Top class vid this should be mill plus views!!! Keep vids like these coming please 🙏
Remember that day Darius got signed for Chelsea and saw a pic of him wearing the yellow Chelsea shirt in a game. Soo gassed for him , shows at his big age of 18/19 still managed to find a way into cobham ❤️ what a baller he was
Appreciate it man! Darius still doing well - 13 apps this season in the eredivisie 🙏
Charly Musonda, and again one of young gems destroy by injury and some players by loan system like Kakuta and Marin. So much with a Chelsea fan like me
Big shame 🤦♂
TH-cam has recommended this video to me for what feels like months. Finally watched it and it's really insightful!
Chris is so humble and self depreciating. Refreshing.
Big time. Top guy
I’m only at 8:00 and this interview is one of the best interviews I’ve ever seen so much gems dropping in this one and as guy who want to make it it’s really helping and opening my eyes and mind on things honestly very good job RB ! AMAZING CONTENT
Really appreciate that bro! Thank You for watching & supporting 🙏👑
You haven't watched much interviews then?
Really interesting perspectives. Football is indeed ruthless and cutthroat at this level. Young players need reminding that there are opportunities beyond just the elite clubs.
I don't think you're getting enough credit for the quality of the questions you're asking to get such a brilliant interview. top notch, hope you build out your podcast more soon
Thank you for the support bro 👊🏾 More to come!
You’re the guys!!!!! This was some insightful interview
I have 2 sons one went pro the other went to the police, one of my sons has 2 boys one with a pro academy in scotland, so I have an interest in what Chris Robinson said in this video. I must say it is nice to see and listen to someone that does not sit in the fence.I wish him all the luck needed in his future endeavours.
Appreciate the comment, thanks for your support
This is some unbelievable insight🙏can tell how passionate he is about the work he’s done!
Glad you enjoyed the interview bro!
The way he is speaking about Sancho, Alli and Homes is cold. That is the personality you've gotta have to be in this job. Just to say 'no' to a lot of people and be emotionless inside is an indication of a top scout
Foreal - I think the clip has been a bit misunderstood on social media tbh. He's not saying that they're bad players by any means - he is saying that he decided they weren't the best fit for Chelsea at the time. Was he right? One to debate...
@@RisingBallers not only them top lads. All the guys that were rejected, I really loved that he underlined the fact that it is not always about your footballing skills, but your mind and personality. Seeing Chels boys bottle it at Wembley says it all. And.. I am a blues fan too
I actually appreciate this, he's made a pretty good shout on all of them even at a young age and whilst I appreciate he was potentially wrong about their technical skills, attitude wise he was spot on.
Reminds me of when American coaches talk about intangibles.
But somehow players like mount go through.
"Cold"......"emotionless".....with all due respect...this is a very Old Skool way of dealing with young players. As adults in sport, we also have a duty of care to these young people. I know football is a business but at the end of the day, the kids are not machines. They are people with thoughts and emotions who are still trying to learn and find their way in life.
This is why a lot of the ones that don't make it end up with mental health issues and/or become suicidal. As a collective, we must address this "meat grinder" style of producing quality players.
The best football interview I've ever seen. Well shot. Well edited. Great insights. Brilliant in every way! Congrats to all involved in making this video.
Also, a great question to end a great interview!
As a mixed-heritage coach, my opinion on Chris' question (on the reason why a lack of diversity in coaching) is that the answer is multifaceted and multidimensional... There's family/cultural pressures which drive cerebral talents (who'd otherwise succeed in coaching) into alternative & higher paid industries where respect (a non-negotiable aspect in many diverse cultures) is more easy to come by... There's perceptions by diverse coaches of the wider culture of English football as being a place where often exclusionary, discriminatory & deliberately oppositional practices happen in subtle & plausibly deniable - though not indetectable - forms; designed, it often seems, to deliberately scupper diverse coaches who often bring new perspectives... There's the difference where coaches are sometimes expected to turn a blind eye to discriminatory behaviours (no matter how infrequent) which cumulatively become impossible to ignore (eg. when raised concerns are ignored), and how this causes diverse coaches to choose between their conscience and their love of coaching... There's the 'uncertainty over dependency' aspect where diverse coaches understand that success in coaching depends on a deep and dependable network and that the deeper the network, the more likely the odd individual within that network may prove susceptible to cultural hang-ups/hangovers... There's the fact that limited opportunities are further put at risk by the potential weaponisation of rules & regulations which while well-meaning can be abused by competitor coaches for advantage... There's the lack of opportunities - can you imagine how dispiriting it is to hear/read the story of Dwight Yorke's failed attempts to get into coaching despite having the right qualifications!? If a guy who played at the highest level and won it all, if he can't make it as a pro coach, then what chance the rest of us?... Then there's the poor pay to top it all off... And that's before getting into the darker side of the cases of abuse of power by powerful figures in the game locally, regionally, etc (rarer though not yet extinct)... Who would put up with any of this for a pittence?! And why should they?! Want to increase diversity in coaching? Compete with other industries that offer a smoother ride on the non-negotiables...
Really appreciate that man - so glad you liked the interview. Great answer to Chris' question too - appreciate your personal insight!
Great interview and so much information of behind the scenes of scouts! 🙏🏼
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This was a brilliant watch!!
Just found this. I'm speechless. Tremendous work!
Honest and insightful. It does make me think that the path to being an established premier league player is in a small part a lottery. One observation how many dads with 5 sons have 4 that have been through the academy system
Football is definitely a game of opinions , makes it very difficult for sure
This is a fantastic interview, so many takeaways for anyone at every level of football. A must watch for any parent and kid of a certain age that is dreaming of the big time. Pure gold. Thanks for making this video.❤❤❤
Appreciate that man! Thank You!
@@RisingBallers Hi guys, I hope this is ok but I would like to share this link a my tiny platform. I'm just starting a little channel about grassroots football, inspired by you guys at Rising Ballers. I'm a freelance TV Producer/Director looking to move from the mainstream to social media platforms and I'm keen to spread this type of content and hopefully some day make some stuff like this in the future. If this doesn't work for you then just let me know. Keep up the fantastic work and I look forward to your next interview.
Great Advice as a father of a Asian Academy Cat 1 player taken away some solid advice. Resilience is the one as a failed footballer myself lack of Resiliency and family support is main factor for Asians, however as a 2nd generation British Asian our kids have total support and equal opportunities now. No one will stop you if you good enough, racism is no longer an excuse.
Appreciate the comment , wishing your child all the best. 👊🏾
Never watched your channel before, but as a long-time Chelsea fan (and fan of European footy in general) I gotta say this was right up my alley in terms of content. Awesome stuff man, definitely gonna sub for future videos!
Welcome aboard, appreciate the support bro , more to come for sure! 👊🏾
This is without doubt the most fascinating and informative interview I’ve seen about football. Thank you for this content 🙏🏼
What a great interview! Enjoyed every bit of it.
Brilliant brilliant interview. Sensational insight about scouting and what made Chelsea academy so special. Kudos for making the video.
Brilliant interview!!! Very informative and insightful. Well done!!! Also thanks for Chris for his honesty. What a man! 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Cobham is by far the best academy in the UK. Insane output of Talent.
Fantastic interview, thanks so much.
Honestly man I love what rising ballers have been doing so much greatness ‼️ may you keep winning and producing more top talents
Appreciate the support my guy ❤
This interview was an eye opener wow
really great watch, really interesting insight into the game we all love. look forward to more Perspectives
This was Fantastic!
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Brilliant interview …!
Wonderful insight & very well thought out questions. Love these sorts of deep dive videos with true professionals who can step back & give real unbiased insight. Interviewer did great to keep it flowing nicely without cutting Chris off👏🏼🤌🏼
Glad you enjoyed bro!
Wow what a great insight into modern day football. I am 61 and was brought up in a different time football wise.
I watched this on a Sunday afternoon and can say it was very educational. More of this please.👍
Best vid this. Like this idea of getting people from coaching , scouting so we get to know abt clubs from very close.
Great insight here 👌🏾
Soo informative. Continue doing this. I love it❤
Great interview, i think the information shared could be a game changer for players still striving to make it as a footballer
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Awesome interview!
Thank You for watching bro!
Elite interview - Great watch and is a credit to all scouting staff within the game.
Appreciate it bro!
Really enjoyed that. He imparts some great info
Very good Chris is the boss!😊
Excellent viewing, very interesting and extremely informative, well done..
Fantastic interview!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
incredible insight!
Insightful !!
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This was so interesting. The fact this hasnt got near 1mil views is criminal
Brilliant interview, I hope many parents and dreamers listen to the realism of the game!
I think Theirry Henry was saying on the Champions League show that Spanish football scouts look at the mental aptitude of the player and their football IQ so about movement off the ball. UK seems to be focused on the physical aspects. Not if a footballer is smart or not.
Great interview, 👍🏻
Thanks for watching man
Really good this
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This is a masterclass!
Glad you enjoyed it man!
Top notch!!!!
Thanks for watching bro
Wonderful Interview
Thank you, appreciate the support 👊🏾
These are very good,this and the Tyriqe one,hope you do some more
Amazing man thanks for watching
Musonda very good talent
Baller - such a shame he didn't make it at Chelsea
Top interview 👌🏻
Thanks for watching bro
Loved this video! Super insightful and interesting to learn even more than I knew. I’d love to hear more about scouting stories too and to see if there has been any major progression in terms of recognition and respect for scouts?
Appreciate the support, More to come!
@@RisingBallersand feel free to stick to chelsea lol! Or Swansea if ever 🤩👍🏼
Roman: Invests in the academy
Clownlake: Cashes in on the investment🤦♂️
class listen
I've said to so many young guys that once you reach 17-18, and first team isn't really on the books, in terms of games, just go on loan. get the game time. This vid is really good. great perspective.
Told so many have you and now your telling TH-cam 😂
@@dondamon4669 don't be weird
Chris! 💙
I was hoping they would ask Chris who was the scout who didn’t sign Mbappe because of his defensive work rate 😂
Great interview though 👌🏼
😂😂😂😂
world class interview. good news for our family that you can get a chance even at age 18...
Gem 💎 for players trying to make it .
Facts!
To answer Chris’ question. It is lack of diversity in decision making roles in football clubs. There’s an conscious/unconscious bias in football clubs on how Managment and players should look, behave, speak etc. At the heart of it, football is an old boys sport. It’s about who the decision makers can relate to because it’s more comfortable for them. A good player and a “good lad” together counts as the perfect player/manager to recruit. “Good lad” meaning they have similar background and understanding of each other.
Perfect case study is QPR Academy. At the time, Tony Fernandes (Indian Owner) Les Ferdinand (Director of football). That club was the most diverse I’ve seen in staff and players. Most South Asian players I’ve seen at club to this day. Because they’re recruiting who the best is for the role and doing their best to wipe away any bias.
Answer is, football ex-pro’s/aspiring coaches should aim for other roles that just management. They should be taken seriously for decision making roles like Les. More like a “money-ball” approach to recruitment Holding senior staff accountable to make sure they diversify as best they can by looking at who is best in class in the industry and getting them in. No matter race, sex or anything else.
Interesting take bro! Thank You for watching
Good media training, very PC. The elites would be proud of your answer
How has that gone for QPR?
Chelsea had an African as director of football 20 years ago. First top league team to have a black captain. First top league team to have a black manager.
Yall should interview more scouts from the premier league.
YOUR THOUGHTS
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If I am a kid trying to go pro. This is a video I would watch and study.
Facts
Very insightful
Feel free to reply with links to football interviews as insightful as this
Hey Chris, can you take scouting director for indonesia to resiliency of half blood player. i think its new challenges for you. the first step i think should be contact the president association of football he’s name erick tohir former president of inter milan
Top content here
Appreciate the support bro 👊🏾
Great guest. You should have asked him his questions at the end
Thanks for the support bro
Imagine Reece, Enzo and Caicedo in midfield 😮
boga & musonda 🕊
Hazard also rated Musonda highly 😊
Being a Chelsea fan the amount Chris mentions Conor Gallagher shows how important , expecially to this Chelsea team, he really is. If the owners sell him then they truly dont understand the club
He is an absolute baller! Ripping it this season
Can't believe you didn't mention Declan Rice
It easier to scout fast & strong players from age 7&8, tbh grandma could spot those boys, but difficult to scout football intelligence at that age, we might get bunch of Rashford & saka in the end, but missed all the pirlo & kroos in the process
I would like to know what his opinion on ex and current pro's kids who are gifted academy places just because their dad plays for the 1st team
Ruben was getting their under Sari them that injury
Rio and tyrique are next up from chelseas academy
Ballers!
I feel for managers. How can you put some faith in the youth when the game is driven heavily by results, expecially Chelsea managers who never last more than two seasons.
Definitely a very tough job. Hard to trust in youth, when you don’t have the full full backing of board
Should've asked why he let Mbappé go 😂
Boehly and current directors won't let a person like that continue working at the club...any person has a tie to the old world class ChelseaFC, they will make their life difficult at the club so you end up quitting...
Chris Robinson is world class scout but Boehly and his puppet director would look for employee from Brighton...
they want to be a feeder club and make as much money as they can...no more trophies more top 4..welcome to middle table position...Chelsea will be in 14-10 position on the table from now on...Boehly is just like Bezos does not care as long as the system is making money, they won't care about fans...
Not only is Sancho not good enough for Chelsea, he isn't good enough for the premier league. When Sancho comes up against good premiership defenders he gets found out, he's fine against defenders in the Bundesliga who are slower and not very good.
Entirely agree, and even in Bundesliga his best form was only when coming off the bench against tired legs. He's quick with his feet but not very quick between the ears
I'm here, all I need is an opportunity. My coaching ethos centers around philosophy, culture and structure.
Chris' question about the lack of British Asian footballers in academies is an interesting one. Outside of the obvious issues of general attitudes in this country, I think a lot of it comes down to immigrant mentality - as Chris points out, a lot of jobs in football are inherently insecure and a lot of British Asian kids are 1st or 2nd gen immigrants, whose parents will have sacrificed a lot of start a new life in a new country. It's only natural that they'd push their kids towards more stable careers than football, especially considering committing to football is obviously going to come at the expense of more traditional academic qualifications.
Plus I think there's a big cultural clash there. So much football culture in this country is still so intrinsically linked with drinking alcohol. It's not really compatible or welcoming to anyone who is a practicing Muslim, for example.
Really good points man, thank you for taking the time to answer. So do you see this gradually changing and more asians are likely to enter the football world?
@@RisingBallers eventually, IMO. Here in Australia we've had plenty of ethnic South Asian families for some decades now, but talents of South Asian origin have only begun to break into the Aussie cricket grassroots in the last 10 years or so. That's entirely down to attitudes, whichever way you choose to characterise them. Attitudes take a while to change.
Do you realise that it isn't racism as to why South Asian players are few and far between?
They love cricket for starters. The parents don't want them to be footballers, they want them to be doctors or cricketers.
The majority haven't been anywhere near good enough to be professional let alone semi professional.
Stop with this indoctrinated bull.
If there is any racism involved, it's from the parents of South Asian kids who don't want their kids involved in football
Really interesting after a few mins already. I recommend the Michael Calvin book “No Hunger in Paradise”. Can send it to someone if interested.
The main takeaway being that a vast majority are just there to support the ONE who could make it.
Great book! Thanks for taking the time to watch the vid.
No hunger in paradise
@@MD-it5od typo!
Well, you know, if scouts and coaches really look at that 3 points it would be great. But in fact they are looking only for big guys that's why we have poor quality of football in low divisions
Why is their a lack of ie
Black managers in the game
Lack of Asian players in the Academy system, pro game..
One word.... Racism, discrimination, prejudice etc etc....
Mr Robinson is a real. Geezer 👌👌👌👌👌
7:23 "packing" - taking players out the game with passing
Audio mixing is horrendous, otherwise very good interview.
“It took us years and years and £10m a year to realise that sometimes players develop at 18 or 19 and other players who developed early that we thought were the best players ever actually fall away by the time they’re 18/19when size and physicality are no longer a differentiator” 🙄
It’s not like we didn’t have examples like Ian Wright, Jamie Vardy and Dele Alli to reflect on.
Academy level coaches and scouts are essentially cut from the same cloth as used car salesman and salesman of dodgy time shares. Or ppl who predicted that the internet would fail by 2001. Or the ones who overlooked companies like Amazon or Uber when they were small. Untalented, unintelligent and there by virtue of privilege rather than “talent”
There is no doubt at all that idiots like this bloke would have passed up the opportunity to sign Busquets Xavi Iniesta and Messi if they had been in England as kids.
CFC said no to Mbappe too, which means these old boys are looking for a different skill-set to the new generation of entertainers.
EPPP was introduced in 2012
Should have started with Brightons development and recruitment team and ended with it and saved the 50 minutes in between.
Brighton killing it in terms of Recruitment atm , love to see it 👌
Does he speak about Billy Gilmour?
That bit at 39 minutes where he said Jose doesn't pick young players is a lie that has been told way too many times and I do not for the life of me understand why.
Jose gave Varane his start. At Real Madrid no less!
Wasn't he worried about not having time there?
McTominay at Manchester United where he also needed to win quickly!
Balotelli at Inter Milan!
And he played so many young stars at Roma, he smashed his own record.
Please stop the falsehood!
Dujon Sterling was good at youth level but he hasn't played for a decent club because he hasn't performed well.
Is Mourinho still coaching him? NO. So why not admit he wasn't good enough? (which is something Mourinho definitely saw and refused to play him).
For the bad agents ecosystem to exist best believe that there are some bad officials working at clubs enabling behaviours and getting paid. That's a narrative that ex officials never seem to light on. It is always a point finger attitude..