Even though these videos are for guilty gear, I find that a lot of it can be applied to many fighting games, thank you for the effort, I'll be sure to do my part
I picked up GGXXAC+R just before the Rollback patch was announced. I main Sol. I've been practicing my anti-airing and poking, and basic Gatlings. Now, I am comfortable with anti-airing and poking, and have begun applying pressure with gunflame. Playing CPU matches and watching tournament vods has been a great help in learning how to respond to certain situations. I hope to learn more about Guilty Gear's system mechanics in the days to come. Thank you for creating this video.
I bought GG Xrd (Rev 2) 2 weeks ago and see your first video yesterday in ordrer to learn the game with your method. To sum up this exercise in the game : > Learning : I realize that P and K are useful tools to prevent attack from my opponent and are tools to disrupt some combos. Before watching this video, I used only H or D attacks to make more damage in ordrer to try to survive > Issue : This exercise was boring until 15mn to practice it in the dojo. So, I was going to in the lobby to test this exercise against a novice player and it's funnier against a real opponent. This is a really good exercise to learn the basics of the game. Your process is not daunting. Thank you for teaching me Guilty Gear mecanics !
I am so excited to watch the rest of the series! I'm brand new to fighting games and was introduced to Guilty Gear this summer. I have progressed a lot since then but I feel like I don't have a whole lot of direction. I think this will help me build a good set of tools and solidify concepts I'm still a little fuzzy on. Looking forward to the rest of the series!
Stick with dude, Once you learn the general concepts of fighting games you can take those skills and Apply them to any fighting game, fighting games are a great tool for mental training and self analysis. My tips are learn to adapt, learn to love losing( you should never give up but every loss is an opportunity to correct yourself and improve)
Appreciate you taking the time to do these videos. Hopefully new GG players will find them and benefit. With GGxrdR not far off, I am hoping to see a new influx of players.
am totally new to Guilty Gear, i bought the game yesterday, ill be practicing and letting you know all :D thanks for the video, the concepts are very clear and kinda familiar to others fighting games
Thanks to るぅ's blog, I've found and watched it. From the view of Japanese beginner player, this vieo is very fun and interesting. I'm looking forward to watching next video.
Simply outstanding. I bought this game day one (after having previously tried it at Hey arcade in Akihabara) and have tried and failed numerous times to wrap my head around it and just lapse back into Street Fighter. I watched a lot of high level play, but it seemed like complete chaos to a SF player. It's great to finally have it broken down clearly and concisely without an overload of information. Looking forward to the rest of this series.
I'm glad to see your doing more teachings on TH-cam again. After air dash academy my gameplay improved drastically so knowing how to operate in certain games has become much easier for me. Thanks Novril and good luck making more videos.
Great approach! As a street fighter player for years, it's truly helpful that you do the comparison on the very first video. Keep on the good work! This kind of tutorials have a lot of potential.
Worked pretty well. Focused on Sol's 5K and f.S, HS RC dash S, HS chains. Worked pretty well against another player that didn't really know what he was doing with Dizzy. Good series!
Just wow. This video series is really helping me a lot, not only in GG but in fighting games in general. Really great job and slow pace teaching for newcomers like me. Seriously appreciate the help and hope some day be at a good enough level to play vs you. Keep up the great work.
Ty for these, Ive been following you for a ling time and have been too nervous to jumo into GG until now. These will help alot with serving as a good jumping off point for everyone getting into it all❤
This is great timing! been wanting to get into GG but just get overwhelmed by how much depth it has even if I keep hearing how Xrd is easy compared to later version. Thanks!
Thanks a ton for this series. I've had guilty gear for a while already, but i never really took the time to sit down and learn these concepts. These videos should help me not just in GG, but other games as well
Cool video, I'll go and learn this again just because it was a nicely done video. It's nice that you put this in the description too. Question though, do you have some sort of schedule for these videos? A weekly thing or something?
Love you guys SOOOOO much for this. And my friends and I have been using Melty Bits to get ready for CEOtaku too, please never stop. The FGC loves you!
Just wanted to say that air dash academy and guilty bits was originally what got me into anime fighters and I'm thankful for it. I'm definitely gonna take a good intake of these new videos cuz I'm getting bodied like crazy in Xrd and Blazblue.
just discovered your channel. I've been playing the guilty gear games on and off for a few years but never felt the desire to deepen my knowlege of the series until recently and i'm really glad resources like this exist although the ingame tutorials are exceptionally helpful and i wish more games would offer more resources especially since this game is so deep.
Very nice idea for a video series. I've always been more of a "Monkey See, Monkey Do" type of learner when it comes to fighting games, as opposed to notations and paragraphs of "theory fighter" I always found GG to be difficult to play on a base level, but I've felt myself getting better over the last month after giving Xrd another try. I'll try to apply the spacing knowledge in this vid in my next online session.
Thank you for making these Awesome vids. I really appreciate you guys helping out noobers like myself. I am being drawn towards Japanese fighting games. So far I own GGXRD, Dengeki Bunko: Fighting Climax, and I have a import copy of Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel preordered. Hopefully what I learn from yours vids will ease the struggle while playing other Japanese fighting games. Thanks again!!
Good introduction to fighting games! I remember trying to introduce a friend, who i would consider a gamer, to persona 4 Arena, I put him through the combo training (Teddie!) to start him off... It was a disaster! Even simple concepts like chaining moves was difficult and combined with the fast button inputs he found it near impossible and said "It's the hardest game I ever played!" I imagine the guilty gear learning-curve would of been terrifying.... heck even i find the idea of 6 button terrifying lol!
Although I know how to play GG and other fighting games in general, I want to use these set of videos to help my friends how to play fighting games. Great job!
I mean say what you will but I think the xrd versions of all the characters fits them all really well because it shows how far they came and how their not going anywhere anytime soon ^^
Hey, aren't you the "guilty bits" people? Glad to see you transitioning to xrd tutorials(although this isn't technically an xrd tutorial). Looking forward to seeing more. I like the idea go giving us "home work" to do after each episode, good stuff all around.
Hey, I picked up guilty gear and used these resources a lot to get started, and i still come back to them to make sure there aren't holes in my play. One thing on anti airs that I realized after reading machabo's fundamentals guide is that for both ground spacing and anti airs a lot of the time its hard to always do things on reactions. Sometimes it's better to keep those hitboxes out to discourage raw instant air dashes. For Sol I'll actually cycle between his 5K and f.S/5H just because sometimes it's hard to 5K on reaction, and i only really use his 6P on reactable stuff like divekicks.
Hello. Love your voice, and way of talking. I've just bought Rev2 and really want to enjoy the game. I'm afraid there isn't a lot of people online tough. Still, i hope i can learn as much as I can by playing against the cpu, before finding tougher (and real) opponents. (sry for my bad english)
Where do you live? If you're in EU on pc we could play. I'm also a noob, though I've found that the player rooms are actually more populated than they might seem. Hell, I've actually ran into a good player who ended up teaching me about spacing for a solid 30 minutes. Community is small but they really love their game.
Tried this with a new character against a friend (we actually were playing AC for a good hour or two because I have zero Johnny experience so I didn't notice lol). Far slash was the mvp for stuffing a good 90% of what he was doing about halfscreen away, though moves like greed sever, alpha blade, and grand viper either low profiled or clipped my extended hurtbox (which cost me a round or two). One of the good things I noticed was that f.S alone made him try to take to the air constantly, so I just started pressing 5HS instead.
About the match playing during the beginning: after the throw at 0:55 why does Ky do a rising j.S? I can't imagine he's defending that space since Slayer is knocked down.
Are you gonna make a new series for Strive or no? Cause I wanna get into fighting games. I tried out FighterZ, the combos were too long (as in I got combo'd for 30+ seconds as soon as I made one mistake) and it seems like Strive would be the best choice due to the floor system, rollback netcode, general depth of the game, and cause the music is siiick.
So I've gone and trained this concept mostly in story mode for about 20 hours over a week. It sounded super simple when watching video but was quite hard to execute. I found out that Ky's 2H sucks, it takes ages to come out, has very low height and very weird placement. Usually 2H hits opponent already standing on the ground, that's how slow it is + what my reaction time is. Sol's 2K is alright, since it's fast, but still very short and AI actually can do moves mid air to "wait out" AA and punish. So even with easy AI I've grown very reluctant to press any buttons against airborne opponent, since they either block, we both get counter hit or their attack is better and they can still hit me ignoring my AA. Maybe their weapon is longer or whatever Space control is also scary, since opponent can always anticipate 5S or something and jump and airdash above my attack to punish. Also almost every hit leads to 15-hit combo But on a positive side I've noticed how combo scaling works and even my occasional single attacks would deal comparable damage to 2 15-hit combos Also, it's clear now that the best defence is offence
Usually I (a Millia player) use 5P, 5K, c.S, f.S and 2D to control space (2D is fast and has a lot of range). But in the case of 6P it gets complicated because it starts slow but it recovers even slower!
This is my first fighting game I've ever tried. I hadn't done the tutorial before watching this so I did that first and just a couple of things to note from that. Moving is hard. I don't always dash the first time I want to do it and have to try and input again. The same goes for just remembering what buttons do what. Jumping is something I'd like to avoid for now. Not once was I able to do the jumping gatlings in the tutorial without missing at least one but, usually two of the hits. I decided I'd try Baiken and after some checking the universal ground control and anti-air options work for her, 5s/2s and 6p. I've been playing vs easy AI and I win by a small amount trying to focus on just the principles in this video. The difficulties I've had so far have been learning how to use the anti-air effectively. The AI doesn't seem to jump a lot, some characters more then others. I miss it 80-90% of the time after about 45 minutes of play including my time in the tutorial. With ground control, I prefer 2s over 5s as it seems to have longer range. It is difficult to remember to move towards the AI after a hit to try and get them in the corner. I don't know how to convert a slash hit into any sort of follow up at the moment and I hit my anti-airs so infrequently I can't even imagine trying to do a short combo afterwards. If anyone knows a basic follow up though I'd like to hear it so I can work on practicing it once I start getting hits more often. Fighting games are hard...
Muscle memory is weird at first but after playing for a bit it becomes second nature. Additional resources: th-cam.com/video/A0MXyJxa6Ik/w-d-xo.html drunkardshade.com/2017/05/24/guilty-bits-xrd-baiken/ I suggest referring all Baiken specific questions to the discord server: discord.gg/utnudAF
Hey! i just started the game and decided to learn elphelt. Are the ground control and anti air still the same in rev 2 like in the description? Really nice video gonna try to do all of this tuto:)
Great video. My buddies suggested to get the basics down from this series and i will for sure use this to better my Zato play. Any other characters that are suggested work well with newbies and these concepts?
after a while of trying to figure it out I still can't under stand what this (Millia: f.S, 5P/6P/c.S) means can someone please explain it to me I read the top of the description but have know Idea what f.S, 5P/6P/c.S means in terms of button input
Trying to actually do that with strive as my very first fighting game. This is so much harder than it looks and i keep trying to do fancy stuff when i should be focusing on just the the core. Do the Sol buttons still apply btw?
Idk if youre active on this account anymore, but if you are doing this crash course for strive would be amazing! I'm a very casual fighting game player (smash and DBFZ) but this is a game i want to get really good at. I would use these videos for strive, but a lot has changed in these versions of the game.
I actually played Strive for two hundred hours already. Despite that, after simply following advice from this video I actually started playing better without even trying to win!
I've tried so hard to get into fighting games. I've spent a fair amount of hours in Tekken and SFV, but it just didn't click with me. This time I'm giving GGST a chance so here I am! Lets hope it sticks with me this time.
guilty bits for xrd? pretty cool. altho i always thought guilty bits lacked basic/bnb/beginner-intermediate combos at the end of each character tutorial.
Really awesome get-go! I will use this to switch from SF to GGXrdR. I really love the new school fighting games and tried my luck with BB once but I didn't have the energy to stay at it. Here's my question: Apparently in Europe (I'm playing from Germany) there are a LOT of players that already emerged from being total noobs to *at least* average players; meaning I can see no land fighting against them and start button mashing super fast. (Sadly I land a lot of hits like that. :D ) So long story short I can't find European players at my level to fight against to try out what you're telling me. The beginner and easy level arcade episodes don't seem to do the trick for me either. What's your idea for having a good zoning training partner if the community is too high level?
Did you try finding people o hardedge? Its a german FGC forum . A lot of GG players meet there and play in Private lobbys. There are Players at basicly every skill lvl. You can find people to play offline 2.
Is there a version or part I should skip to if I have played FGs for 10+ Yrs thus understand fundamental concepts/frame data? I just come from the SF/VF/DoA communities. Played anime games before just not too into them. Have replicated combos from vids and seen high impact games and also played Marvel for the type of fast pace stuff I've already seen.
little late to the party but....trying this with the ai and i'm having some issues. the problem is even when i do the moves the ai just keeps coming. am I timing it wrong or something?
Oh wow, I thought all I should be doing is airdashing around to apply pressure. I've played SF for so long and didn't realise the same concepts applied here lol.
+Tim Lockley neutral just happens really fast and it's rarely occurring in most anime/airdash fighters because pressure is such a constant. honestly, i never saw much a neutral until i watched GG namely because it has some of the shortest combos for its genre lmao
+novriltataki Could we discuss the term 'poke' a bit, then? -Is it safe to assume that the base example of a poke here was Ryu's c.MK? -What facets make a 'poke' distinctly a 'poke'? -Is a poke only ground/ground? Also hoping that this, if it does get responses, doesn't get too deep in order to keep spirit with this series; few factoids for the curious, but be able to go play with the knowledge you take from here. Great start, Novril and crew! Let's see how how this rolls.
+Ipsen13 The fireball is also a poke. I'd say any move with good range and speed that's relatively easy to hit with (compared to big rewarding stuff) is considered a poke.
Yo this helps me a lot, I'm learning Xrd now because it was on sale, I've played plus r and strive before but Bedman is on xrd so that makes me wanna play it. Can I ask questions about guilty gear in this channel?
Even though these videos are for guilty gear, I find that a lot of it can be applied to many fighting games, thank you for the effort, I'll be sure to do my part
I picked up GGXXAC+R just before the Rollback patch was announced. I main Sol. I've been practicing my anti-airing and poking, and basic Gatlings. Now, I am comfortable with anti-airing and poking, and have begun applying pressure with gunflame. Playing CPU matches and watching tournament vods has been a great help in learning how to respond to certain situations. I hope to learn more about Guilty Gear's system mechanics in the days to come. Thank you for creating this video.
I bought GG Xrd (Rev 2) 2 weeks ago and see your first video yesterday in ordrer to learn the game with your method. To sum up this exercise in the game :
> Learning : I realize that P and K are useful tools to prevent attack from my opponent and are tools to disrupt some combos. Before watching this video, I used only H or D attacks to make more damage in ordrer to try to survive
> Issue : This exercise was boring until 15mn to practice it in the dojo. So, I was going to in the lobby to test this exercise against a novice player and it's funnier against a real opponent.
This is a really good exercise to learn the basics of the game. Your process is not daunting. Thank you for teaching me Guilty Gear mecanics !
I am so excited to watch the rest of the series! I'm brand new to fighting games and was introduced to Guilty Gear this summer. I have progressed a lot since then but I feel like I don't have a whole lot of direction. I think this will help me build a good set of tools and solidify concepts I'm still a little fuzzy on. Looking forward to the rest of the series!
That's awesome! How has your training gone so far? Hopefully still super hyped.
Stick with dude,
Once you learn the general concepts of fighting games you can take those skills and
Apply them to any fighting game,
fighting games are a great tool for mental training and self analysis.
My tips are learn to adapt, learn to love losing( you should never give up but every loss is an opportunity to correct yourself and improve)
I'd be interested to know if you're still playing fighting games, and if so how much you've progressed :)
Appreciate you taking the time to do these videos. Hopefully new GG players will find them and benefit. With GGxrdR not far off, I am hoping to see a new influx of players.
am totally new to Guilty Gear, i bought the game yesterday, ill be practicing and letting you know all :D thanks for the video, the concepts are very clear and kinda familiar to others fighting games
How did it go ? You still playing?
are you still playing
2023 still THE best tutorial Just learning 2D fighting game
Thanks to るぅ's blog, I've found and watched it. From the view of Japanese beginner player, this vieo is very fun and interesting. I'm looking forward to watching next video.
This saved me a lot of time thinking where to start and what to practice. Great concept, great presentation, excellent overall!
Simply outstanding.
I bought this game day one (after having previously tried it at Hey arcade in Akihabara) and have tried and failed numerous times to wrap my head around it and just lapse back into Street Fighter. I watched a lot of high level play, but it seemed like complete chaos to a SF player.
It's great to finally have it broken down clearly and concisely without an overload of information. Looking forward to the rest of this series.
I'm glad to see your doing more teachings on TH-cam again. After air dash academy my gameplay improved drastically so knowing how to operate in certain games has become much easier for me. Thanks Novril and good luck making more videos.
I’ve been playing strive for about 3 months now and just found this, and it’s exactly what I’ve been looking for. Thank you
Great approach! As a street fighter player for years, it's truly helpful that you do the comparison on the very first video. Keep on the good work! This kind of tutorials have a lot of potential.
Worked pretty well. Focused on Sol's 5K and f.S, HS RC dash S, HS chains. Worked pretty well against another player that didn't really know what he was doing with Dizzy. Good series!
Just wow.
This video series is really helping me a lot, not only in GG but in fighting games in general.
Really great job and slow pace teaching for newcomers like me.
Seriously appreciate the help and hope some day be at a good enough level to play vs you.
Keep up the great work.
Ty for these, Ive been following you for a ling time and have been too nervous to jumo into GG until now. These will help alot with serving as a good jumping off point for everyone getting into it all❤
Merci beaucoup à Yulya et Alioune pour la traduction des sous-titres!!
Great video, this is the best airdasher's tutorial I've seen!
The way you break this down and compare it to street fighter is very comprehensive to me, loving the series look forward to more!
This is great timing! been wanting to get into GG but just get overwhelmed by how much depth it has even if I keep hearing how Xrd is easy compared to later version. Thanks!
Thanks a ton for this series. I've had guilty gear for a while already, but i never really took the time to sit down and learn these concepts. These videos should help me not just in GG, but other games as well
Cool video, I'll go and learn this again just because it was a nicely done video. It's nice that you put this in the description too.
Question though, do you have some sort of schedule for these videos? A weekly thing or something?
+Dazardz Weekly.
Love you guys SOOOOO much for this. And my friends and I have been using Melty Bits to get ready for CEOtaku too, please never stop. The FGC loves you!
The Guilty Gear community is so on-point when it comes to resources. Props man.
Long-time fighting game fan, but totally new to Guilty Gear. I think your introduction is wonderful.
Been playing fighting games for years. Just watching because these are great videos. Really well done guys.
Its amazing the things you to to expand and explain guilty gear to new comers! I really appreciate it, thanks alot!
Just wanted to say great job on this. Was considering making tutorials myself but this? This is amazing and better than I could have hoped to do.
All these years and still my favorite series on fgs pls never remove these 🙏
Wow. Thank you for this video. Really helped an overwhelming game feel less overwhelming.
Novril, awesome stuff!!! This is really great use of information, please keep up the good work
I've never seen something so helpful , thank you from an Algerian player !
This is amazing. Very well put together and easy to understand.
Spread the word :)
I'll be sure to.
Just wanted to say that air dash academy and guilty bits was originally what got me into anime fighters and I'm thankful for it. I'm definitely gonna take a good intake of these new videos cuz I'm getting bodied like crazy in Xrd and Blazblue.
Great video, looking forward to the next one !
Thank you. Definitely looking forward to more videos in this series.
just discovered your channel. I've been playing the guilty gear games on and off for a few years but never felt the desire to deepen my knowlege of the series until recently and i'm really glad resources like this exist although the ingame tutorials are exceptionally helpful and i wish more games would offer more resources especially since this game is so deep.
AWESOME. Glad to have a new video finally!
Very nice idea for a video series. I've always been more of a "Monkey See, Monkey Do" type of learner when it comes to fighting games, as opposed to notations and paragraphs of "theory fighter" I always found GG to be difficult to play on a base level, but I've felt myself getting better over the last month after giving Xrd another try. I'll try to apply the spacing knowledge in this vid in my next online session.
Thank you so much for this crash course, I learned a lot about acpr through this. It helped me a lot!!!!
Awesome video, keep them coming!
Yes! I love the approach you're taking.
Thank you for making these Awesome vids. I really appreciate you guys helping out noobers like myself. I am being drawn towards Japanese fighting games. So far I own GGXRD, Dengeki Bunko: Fighting Climax, and I have a import copy of Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel preordered. Hopefully what I learn from yours vids will ease the struggle while playing other Japanese fighting games. Thanks again!!
This is really good I am using these to help prepare for Revelator
Good introduction to fighting games!
I remember trying to introduce a friend, who i would consider a gamer, to persona 4 Arena, I put him through the combo training (Teddie!) to start him off... It was a disaster! Even simple concepts like chaining moves was difficult and combined with the fast button inputs he found it near impossible and said "It's the hardest game I ever played!"
I imagine the guilty gear learning-curve would of been terrifying.... heck even i find the idea of 6 button terrifying lol!
Although I know how to play GG and other fighting games in general, I want to use these set of videos to help my friends how to play fighting games. Great job!
I mean say what you will but I think the xrd versions of all the characters fits them all really well because it shows how far they came and how their not going anywhere anytime soon ^^
Hey, aren't you the "guilty bits" people? Glad to see you transitioning to xrd tutorials(although this isn't technically an xrd tutorial). Looking forward to seeing more. I like the idea go giving us "home work" to do after each episode, good stuff all around.
I prefer this format. Thanks.
Great stuff! Extremely helpful. Keep it coming!
I've missed your Guilty Gear videos... Yay!
Hey, I picked up guilty gear and used these resources a lot to get started, and i still come back to them to make sure there aren't holes in my play.
One thing on anti airs that I realized after reading machabo's fundamentals guide is that for both ground spacing and anti airs a lot of the time its hard to always do things on reactions. Sometimes it's better to keep those hitboxes out to discourage raw instant air dashes.
For Sol I'll actually cycle between his 5K and f.S/5H just because sometimes it's hard to 5K on reaction, and i only really use his 6P on reactable stuff like divekicks.
Honestly I'm pretty hyped for this series. I bought GG just to follow along since I've never thought of GG being a game for beginners.
Finally, a video that does exactly what thos video is doing
Hello. Love your voice, and way of talking. I've just bought Rev2 and really want to enjoy the game. I'm afraid there isn't a lot of people online tough. Still, i hope i can learn as much as I can by playing against the cpu, before finding tougher (and real) opponents. (sry for my bad english)
Where do you live? If you're in EU on pc we could play. I'm also a noob, though I've found that the player rooms are actually more populated than they might seem. Hell, I've actually ran into a good player who ended up teaching me about spacing for a solid 30 minutes. Community is small but they really love their game.
@@radar4104 I live in france. I managed to find opponent through discord.
I like this format!
Tried this with a new character against a friend (we actually were playing AC for a good hour or two because I have zero Johnny experience so I didn't notice lol). Far slash was the mvp for stuffing a good 90% of what he was doing about halfscreen away, though moves like greed sever, alpha blade, and grand viper either low profiled or clipped my extended hurtbox (which cost me a round or two).
One of the good things I noticed was that f.S alone made him try to take to the air constantly, so I just started pressing 5HS instead.
Reacting to dash in's and anti-airing is so hard.
i played for a while but mostly johnny main in labs (huge exe baby lol), that tutorial will help me for sure to renforce basics. thanks
I still find it very hard to do the space control, even with the cpu :'(
awesome, thanks. very clear and understandable
Strive Just came out and i got recommended this. Im using it for other games too. This series is goated even tho i just started
Excellent video. Sharing this with all my blooming anime fighter fans.
About the match playing during the beginning: after the throw at 0:55 why does Ky do a rising j.S? I can't imagine he's defending that space since Slayer is knocked down.
+Adwins rising j.s can help with the timing for airdash j.s
Are you gonna make a new series for Strive or no? Cause I wanna get into fighting games. I tried out FighterZ, the combos were too long (as in I got combo'd for 30+ seconds as soon as I made one mistake) and it seems like Strive would be the best choice due to the floor system, rollback netcode, general depth of the game, and cause the music is siiick.
I was just gonna ask this same question, im in the same boat as you. Hopefully he decides to make one for strive.
Awesome, was looking for something like this. I can find all the oki setups for days, but fundamentals are harder to find.
So I've gone and trained this concept mostly in story mode for about 20 hours over a week.
It sounded super simple when watching video but was quite hard to execute. I found out that Ky's 2H sucks, it takes ages to come out, has very low height and very weird placement. Usually 2H hits opponent already standing on the ground, that's how slow it is + what my reaction time is. Sol's 2K is alright, since it's fast, but still very short and AI actually can do moves mid air to "wait out" AA and punish.
So even with easy AI I've grown very reluctant to press any buttons against airborne opponent, since they either block, we both get counter hit or their attack is better and they can still hit me ignoring my AA. Maybe their weapon is longer or whatever
Space control is also scary, since opponent can always anticipate 5S or something and jump and airdash above my attack to punish. Also almost every hit leads to 15-hit combo
But on a positive side I've noticed how combo scaling works and even my occasional single attacks would deal comparable damage to 2 15-hit combos
Also, it's clear now that the best defence is offence
Usually I (a Millia player) use 5P, 5K, c.S, f.S and 2D to control space (2D is fast and has a lot of range). But in the case of 6P it gets complicated because it starts slow but it recovers even slower!
This is my first fighting game I've ever tried. I hadn't done the tutorial before watching this so I did that first and just a couple of things to note from that. Moving is hard. I don't always dash the first time I want to do it and have to try and input again. The same goes for just remembering what buttons do what. Jumping is something I'd like to avoid for now. Not once was I able to do the jumping gatlings in the tutorial without missing at least one but, usually two of the hits.
I decided I'd try Baiken and after some checking the universal ground control and anti-air options work for her, 5s/2s and 6p.
I've been playing vs easy AI and I win by a small amount trying to focus on just the principles in this video. The difficulties I've had so far have been learning how to use the anti-air effectively. The AI doesn't seem to jump a lot, some characters more then others. I miss it 80-90% of the time after about 45 minutes of play including my time in the tutorial. With ground control, I prefer 2s over 5s as it seems to have longer range. It is difficult to remember to move towards the AI after a hit to try and get them in the corner.
I don't know how to convert a slash hit into any sort of follow up at the moment and I hit my anti-airs so infrequently I can't even imagine trying to do a short combo afterwards. If anyone knows a basic follow up though I'd like to hear it so I can work on practicing it once I start getting hits more often.
Fighting games are hard...
Muscle memory is weird at first but after playing for a bit it becomes second nature.
Additional resources:
th-cam.com/video/A0MXyJxa6Ik/w-d-xo.html
drunkardshade.com/2017/05/24/guilty-bits-xrd-baiken/
I suggest referring all Baiken specific questions to the discord server: discord.gg/utnudAF
Hey! i just started the game and decided to learn elphelt. Are the ground control and anti air still the same in rev 2 like in the description? Really nice video gonna try to do all of this tuto:)
I'm pretty good at guilty gear but I can still learn from these videos
Fine work.
Oldie but a goodie
Just finished watching... Now I'm gonna watch some high level matches and try to learn a bit more ^^
does this work for Strive?
Great video. My buddies suggested to get the basics down from this series and i will for sure use this to better my Zato play. Any other characters that are suggested work well with newbies and these concepts?
insane work thx dude thx a lot =) i will begin with this train to grow up, lot's of year playing VS game but not so good ill try it =)
after a while of trying to figure it out I still can't under stand what this (Millia: f.S, 5P/6P/c.S) means can someone please explain it to me I read the top of the description but have know Idea what f.S, 5P/6P/c.S means in terms of button input
Far S as a ground poke, neutral P or forward P or close S as anti-airs depending on the situation.
novriltataki thanks for the response what do you mean my far and close though? Is Far s like heavy slash and close p back walk punch?
If you do standing Slash close to the opponent or from farther away you get 2 different moves.
novriltataki ok thank you so much
Cheers to Xrd getting rollback netcode!
I'll test this out. Meaning guilty gear will be my first fighting game.
6K is another anti air of Axl, really good one
Trying to actually do that with strive as my very first fighting game.
This is so much harder than it looks and i keep trying to do fancy stuff when i should be focusing on just the the core.
Do the Sol buttons still apply btw?
Great, thank you for videos. Nice to watch!! Just to know, do you play KoF serie or do you plan todo it and doing some tutorials?
These not enough?
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Yes but with upcoming kof 14 and the style you re making tutorials, it s not the same thing :p. Anyway, thank you.
I understand but I'm not a KOF player, plus no KOF player ever contacted me to make a video.
Idk if youre active on this account anymore, but if you are doing this crash course for strive would be amazing! I'm a very casual fighting game player (smash and DBFZ) but this is a game i want to get really good at. I would use these videos for strive, but a lot has changed in these versions of the game.
I actually played Strive for two hundred hours already. Despite that, after simply following advice from this video I actually started playing better without even trying to win!
That Ky color is dope.
Sadly i can't really "practice" since i don't actually own Xrd.
Starting this series in 2021 for Strive
Love this video!!!
I've tried so hard to get into fighting games. I've spent a fair amount of hours in Tekken and SFV, but it just didn't click with me. This time I'm giving GGST a chance so here I am! Lets hope it sticks with me this time.
guilty bits for xrd? pretty cool. altho i always thought guilty bits lacked basic/bnb/beginner-intermediate combos at the end of each character tutorial.
great video by the way
+Chopz Meister guilty bits was intended to help people figure out a character to play I think, not so much for combos.
and it helps in such an incredible manner. props to these guys.
Really awesome get-go! I will use this to switch from SF to GGXrdR. I really love the new school fighting games and tried my luck with BB once but I didn't have the energy to stay at it.
Here's my question: Apparently in Europe (I'm playing from Germany) there are a LOT of players that already emerged from being total noobs to *at least* average players; meaning I can see no land fighting against them and start button mashing super fast. (Sadly I land a lot of hits like that. :D )
So long story short I can't find European players at my level to fight against to try out what you're telling me. The beginner and easy level arcade episodes don't seem to do the trick for me either. What's your idea for having a good zoning training partner if the community is too high level?
Did you try finding people o hardedge?
Its a german FGC forum . A lot of GG players meet there and play in Private lobbys.
There are Players at basicly every skill lvl.
You can find people to play offline 2.
Hey, add me on psn: C0D10X, I'm in the exact same position as you and from germany too
Danke! Ich werde zusehen, dass ich das morgen mal mache. :)
Is there a version or part I should skip to if I have played FGs for 10+ Yrs thus understand fundamental concepts/frame data? I just come from the SF/VF/DoA communities. Played anime games before just not too into them. Have replicated combos from vids and seen high impact games and also played Marvel for the type of fast pace stuff I've already seen.
little late to the party but....trying this with the ai and i'm having some issues. the problem is even when i do the moves the ai just keeps coming. am I timing it wrong or something?
great vid man! what's the song same?
Oh wow, I thought all I should be doing is airdashing around to apply pressure. I've played SF for so long and didn't realise the same concepts applied here lol.
+Tim Lockley neutral just happens really fast and it's rarely occurring in most anime/airdash fighters because pressure is such a constant. honestly, i never saw much a neutral until i watched GG namely because it has some of the shortest combos for its genre lmao
Tim Lockley I’ve been just airdashjnf around and landing jump ins for neutral and it hasn’t worked 😂
Great video PLEEASEE keep this up.Im deff going over this the next time I play. I-No's 5P wouldn't be a good AA btw????
+Arold Sanon Trying to avoid situational stuff for now.
+novriltataki Could we discuss the term 'poke' a bit, then?
-Is it safe to assume that the base example of a poke here was Ryu's c.MK?
-What facets make a 'poke' distinctly a 'poke'?
-Is a poke only ground/ground?
Also hoping that this, if it does get responses, doesn't get too deep in order to keep spirit with this series; few factoids for the curious, but be able to go play with the knowledge you take from here.
Great start, Novril and crew! Let's see how how this rolls.
+Ipsen13 The fireball is also a poke. I'd say any move with good range and speed that's relatively easy to hit with (compared to big rewarding stuff) is considered a poke.
Yo this helps me a lot, I'm learning Xrd now because it was on sale, I've played plus r and strive before but Bedman is on xrd so that makes me wanna play it. Can I ask questions about guilty gear in this channel?
I'd say watch all the vids first 😌
@@novriltataki will do, thanks for all the videos you have put up! I've been watching the guilty bits for plus r before and your content is very good.
Hi. Thanks for the video. I'm thinking about picking up Xrd Revelator. What would be my appropriate poke/anti air buttons for Kum Haehyun?
I don't know the character but as a general rule always start by checking far S, crouching S and 6P.
Great. I'll try that.
Could we have the list of musics you used in this video ? Cause that remix of Holy Orders sounds pretty sick.
+Chips Light It's not Holy Orders
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Oh, thought it was Holy Orders, anyway, thanks a lot.
+Chips Light Dat beautiful Awe of She
What moves should I use with Baiken?
Hi there, nice video !
Was just wondering : what are the ground-to-ground and ground-to-air moves for Baiken and Answer? They are not on the list :p
f.S/2S, 6P for both
I really like this .