[What-If] Star Platinum VS King Crimson (Jotaro VS Diavolo).
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Music: JJBA All-Star Battle: Diavolo's Theme (Extended).
JJBA All-Star Battle: DIO's Theme (Extended). - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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Hyourinjutsu is Diavolo like Steely Dan?
If only Diavolo fought Dio...
Idk who but PLEASE do anyone from the Touhou series those girls need some love >_
could you please make jotaro vs hit and ssbk goku vs za warudo ( i love the way you make jojo what-ifs )
Jotaro vs Kars
Jotaro can easily just say "so its the same type of stand" and acquire king crimsons time skip
Ikr. I guess jotaro forgot his plot armour
AHAHAHAHAHAH
a jerry boi man he should’ve used that line against Pucci and maybe he wouldn’t of...you know...
@@mrantipatia1872 DIO's laugh
@@Oh.Nah_ he could beat his ass if he didnt try to save jolyne and part 6 jotaro is weakened af
Polnareff: Jotaro! We need your help to defeat a powerful stand user.
Jotaro: Nope.
Polnareff: Why?
Jotaro: Plot armor gone.
That had me dead
Bro how is king crimson physical stronger than star platinum
That explains part 6 Jotaro
@@arecib5751 King crimson has less range than star platinum that makes him slightly stronger
@@ronelysbello1931 idk I still don't buy it
Diavolo won because he skipped Jotaro saying “So it’s the same type of stand as Star Platinum”
U
Star crimson
Good point
@@Sun-uv7yi bro, really
Star platinum king crimson
diavolo: *moves in time stop*
araki: yoo what the fu-
even araki didnt forget that diavolo has no timestop movement
@ige because he could move in it because they were similar types of stands
@ige Jotaro stopped time just when Dio's time stop ended
@@breadeater8737 Well no but yes
See, that's what I was thinking. Besides, considering his foresight let him see the future, would it let hin see things in timestop? My guess would be he wouls just see his last few seconds going from fine to wrecked in an instant.
Ugh, time stands are bullshit.
> king crimson's endurance is E
> takes multiple hits from star platinum that has A in power
> still alive
*ARAKI FORGOT*
@ShadowBladeX yeh ik
@@onehappyboi6811 no diavolo erased all the times he got hit though the animator left it in to make the animation more exciting
@Cursed Image.yoshithebastard.mp4 No, you are wrong because the results of Jotaro's actions in time stop only happen after time stop ends, therefore Diavolo will always know the results of Jotaro's actions before before Jotaro does them in stopped time. And the time spent in time stop is only experienced by Jotaro which means the time stop doesn't eat into Diavolo's 10 second precog.
Also Jotaro will only activate time stop if he thinks he needs to, which means if he gets hit by a stealth attack he wasn't aware of he will use time stop too late.
A good example would be the when Jotaro time stops after realizing he got hit in the head by a road roller, sure he avoided most of the damage but it's still not all of it. Where as diavolo on the other hand always sees and nullifies danger coming because he's always using his precog+"erase time".
Only the fastest or sneakiest of dangers can instantly kill Jotaro, but for Diavolo only the sneakiest dangers can kill him.
If we assume that diavolo can die in "erased time" then the only way to kill diavolo is through damage that lasts more than 10 seconds, which would be nearly impossible to do, the only viable option would be poisoning or drugging him without him noticing.
If diavolo can't die in "erased time" then only suicide can kill him.
1. both don't know each other or their stands = Diavolo win 10/10
2. both know each others stands and have prep = Diavolo win 9/10
@Cursed Image.yoshithebastard.mp4 Nah, timestop is a single instant in time, and all the actions taken by Jotaro in stopped time happen at the same instant, if you will. So no, time stop does not transcend erased time.
@@henriqueoliveira5123 That's why time erase doesn't work on time stop, if jotaro stops time and hits diavolo the hit is already done and since it's in stopped time diavolo can't skip that hit even when time stop ends and normal time resumes, it's because he can't skip the ''cause'' or the ''beginning'' or the ''start'' of the action, therefor the hit is landed already.
Jotaro: hits king crimson a billion times.
Diavolo: Stays conscious/alive.
This is illegal.
King Crimson's durability: Wait, thats illegal.
King Crimson durability : E
How this works?
King Crimson erase the time when he got hit
iMabuti you can see SP break his bones and diavolo just poses it off
@@kindaGrim it shows us what happened, but KC erased the time, it would be stupid if everything was skipped for us
that moment when Star Platinum breaks both of KC's legs, his ribcage, and rushes him and Diavolo just stands up nonchalantly
Yeah this was bullshit
Maybe Diavolo erased that action.
@@bandabanana4939 So Dio breaking all of Jotaro's bones and him moving like he just doesn't care isn't bullshit?
@@pogmaster6009 well the injured is not that critical compare to diavolo's broken bone
@@pogmaster6009 E in durability vs A in durability, Plus it's a fucking leg, DIO broke Jotaro's Arms and other bones but not the leg. Plus the adrenaline, But this shit different, Even if adrenaline was rushing through Diavolo's body he shouldn't be able to move with those shattered legs
Guys Diavolo taught me even if I break a ton of bones and get hit with punches strong enough to break diamonds I’ll be fine Imma go skydiving without a parachute
GAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
To be fair divaolo took punchs from g.e.r
A requiem stand
@@themanwithnoname5870 and died, so imagine if he took punches from a Stand massively FTL
@@requiem522 Well yeah he died. But he took a ton of it and also was able to move it over to try and counterattack, also Durability is in reality Stamina (Or that is because of the misstraduction in English), so maybe his durability is better that we tough of it. Also in another point, this is Jotaro from part 4, an weakened version of Star Platinum
@@tutiofrijol8466 star Platinum isn't weakened in that animation at all. He could break bones, a feat that only jp3 showed with ease( jp4 could break kira's bones in the end of part 4 ).
The reason jotaro lost because his theme doesn't plays
Phone what theme is playing
Jotaro theme
Here..
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Nah, He lost because it wasn't "High Noon"
It wasn't the same type of stand, it seems.
Yare yare daze..
*Kakyoin:* So, how did you die?
*Jotaro:* ... ...
*Kakyoin:* Mm... I see.
*Jotaro:* having my face cuted in half
Sucks doesn't it?
Señor Fluffy You could say it’s a real...
*_Punch in the gut._*
@@gigagleb9842 same as houdini
No you can't
Fun fact :Jotaro learned king crimson ability in less than a minute while people take hours to understand it !
That's because it's easier to understand any ability when you experience it yourself
Polnareff is not as smart but even he figured out in the first move. There is no other way for something this broken to happen without messing time
I completely disagree with this logic, if time is stopped: all action ceases. If he skipped time *before* the time stop it's a different story. But time stop would totally stop diavolo.
Ye and diovalo cant see future cuz jotaro stand is faster than bullets and it wont attempt to do that
Even if diavolo skips time first it isn't guranteed victory what if so stops time after 5 second mark of skipped time then diavolo is fucked as he won't be able to move in his own skipped time
To be fair this logic did work for Made in Heaven
@@Ponera-Sama diavolo doesn’t know anything about jotaro or how long he can stop time
@@Ponera-Sama it worked for pucci because he studied jotaro powers and stuff
That wasn’t jotaro because he didn’t say “yare yare daze” a single time
Damn true, he never said, which never gave him power
speedwagon foundation cloned him
I didn’t know Surface could copy stands too
Exactly. This is completely inaccurate
@@animeking830 very VERY true
Now jotaro knows how kakyoin feels
BOOOOO
That sounds gay
But it makes sense
That was cruel
;(
2 seconds later: Star Platinum, Act 2!
Star Platinum Over Heaven
Star Platinum Over Heaven
Requiem Act 4: Love Train Za Warudo Bites The Dust
@@palxpez3561 hamon and spin
@@AgentB69 this aint yba
@@thechadmadlad23 your absolutely dumb
hamon is in jojo bizarre's adventure and same for spin (but maybe its in the manga)
Jotaro: *legit breaks every single bone in kc*
Kc: *stands up normally*
and kc skips time stop what doesent make sense
Jotaro: *Takes a punch barrage from The World without SP shielding him*
Jotaro: *stands up normally*
@@DarkWuz_ What are you even talking about, the “durability” of a stand doesn’t affect the “dueability” of a user lol.
And since you wanna talk about stand stats…
Also KC: *Takes a hit from a stand with A in power but doesn’t shatter like glass*
Also KC: has an E in “precision”
Also KC: *hits almost every attack he does*
Stand stats in a nutshell:
TW: has A in speed and B in precision
Also TW: Beats SP with an A in speed and precision
SP and TW: both have A in durability
SP: Gives TW a donut in one hit
TW: Only breaks Jotaro’s bones after a kick and punch barrage
GWE: has a C in power
Also GWE: throws cars in the air like they are toys
Yep, keep believing those stand stats lmao, they definetly make a lot of sense LOL.
Jotaro fanboys when the exact same thing happened in part 3:
"Imma pretend that never happened"
You can see him struggle a little bit
Video: Jotaro dies from one hole in his stomach
Me: Looking back to Jotaro vs Sheer Heart Attack
Me: Remember that the abdominal region have most of vital organs, and that Jotaro have a vertical hole of 30cm on it
Me: remember the amount of blood that Jotaro loose after sheer heart attack and some of the wound are in points where are vital organs
also me:*laughs in araki forgots*
@@jeremiassutter5321 Remembering that in the scene it doesn't really showed how deep the wounds are
@@josefumi5661 Kira said he can almost see the through his wounds...
@@jeremiassutter5321 Gimme a Scan of it
It's almost necropost but
Jotaro: *Hits Diavolo with barrage*
Diavolo: *Stays alive with his stand Durability E*
Jotaro: "Wait, that's illegal"
Durability is a mistranslation.
@@SolProxy Then what is this? Endurance? Even if it's Endurance Star Platinum part4 has the same power as Star Platinum in part 3. And that means he can break DIAMONDS, and i think diamonds a lot harder than Calcium
@@ronjonson7026 I believe Araki wrote it as persistence and it doesn't really mean how easily a stand breaks against another stand. THE WORLD got donuted by Star Platinum in one punch with an A in persistence. Also the JoJo Wikia calls it persistence.
@@SolProxy That may mean how long can you endure the damage or something like that? If it's that, that would make sense as well persistence.
@@ronjonson7026 I believe it may mean stamina, relating to how long you can keep your ability active or say, how long you can punch without getting weaker. Attacks rushes take a lot of stamina so something like Sticky Fingers with a D in persistence would tire out quicker while Star Platinum from Part 3 wouldn't. King Crimson and SP The World have an E since their abilities can last 10 and 5 seconds respectively.
when jotaro forgets his plot armor:
King Crimson's durability: E
This channel: Ok... I'll ignore that have a good day.
Stand stars are garbage, everyone knows this
"Durability" stat is a mistranslation, check your facts
Stand stats are not even credible lol
Didn't KC survive a barrage from GER? I'm sure he can handle a ora barrage
@@zaconmacon565 actually no he didn’t. The infinite death started when the old guy stabbed him. It would be logical that the old guy didn’t cause it because the death has to be by ger I think to be infinite death. So my guess is that ger killed diavlo
Jotaro: You can't erase time if it is stopped.
*+1000 IQ Jotaro picture*
I mean its true tho. You cant erase something when you yourself is stopped. Lel. So Diavolo skipping stopped time is dumb af.
@@Reykoo_2 he erased time just before timestop by using epitaph
UnlimitedLegitist Epitaph doesnt erase time tho, it just foresees 10 seconds into the future. Also if in that 10 seconds Jotaro uses Za Warudo, he’d only forsee in realtime which is Jotaro teleporting and wrecking Diavolo because of time stop.
@@Reykoo_2 i know, he used epitaph to foresee the timestop
@@Reykoo_2 he'd see jotaro or star platinum pose to timestop, like they always do
Incorrect, Jotaro would NEVER think to use Star Finger after Part 3.
Yeah he wont because its a he isnt immobilized and its a close range combat
Yeah not even if Pucci is IN RANGE! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
that's the style of Hyourinjutsu, he makes characters use moves that they don't even use anymore, but some are great (moves like star finger) that add more mechanics to the fight, like in dragon ball sprite animations he animates fights that are even better that the actual show
The logic would be the surprise element, but just that, and wasn't even a decisive thing
Only on dolphins
For the Time Stop vs. Time Erasure debate:
Time only appears "erased" to people other than Diavolo. What King Crimson actually does is remove Diavolo from the flow of time and fate. He uses Epitaph to see 10 seconds into the future. This future is absolute. For example if Diavolo would get stabbed in the next 10 seconds, it WILL happen, IF Diavolo doesn't activate King Crimson. If he does activate King Crimson, Diavolo is now removed from predestined fate and thus is able to escape from getting stabbed. But the stabber would still continue to stab in the direction where Diavolo was. After the ability stops, the stabber would have no memory of Diavolo suddenly disappearing.
So in conclusion I believe Time Stop is superior as during Time "Erase", Diavolo can't actually do anything except prepare a counterattack. Star Platinum is faster than light, so even if Diavolo placed himself behind Jotaro, King Crimson cannot outspeed Star Platinum.
>Star Platinum is not faster than light. There is no stand that moves at the speed of light, excluding Hanged Man and Made in Heaven. Stands moving at the speed of light is constantly disproved throughout the entire show...
to be fair king crimson was able to best silver chariot which had similar speeds to star platinum, so I wouldn't be too sure who'd win this
Araki stated that star platinum is faster than light in the databooks, chariot was able to slice hanged man, meaning that he is ftl, and star platinum was able to keep up with a silver chariot improved by anubis. made in heaven has MFTL- infinite speeds, and star platinum could react to him, putting him at least as ftl+, stop saying nonsense.
@@anindoin4330
@@theboatman6284 bro r u gone nuts cuz diavolo doesn't even fight silver chariot at full potential (i mean when he takes his armor out) where as s.p fight him at his best and guess who won?!!
@@anindoin4330nope bro u r wrong S.P exceed the speed of light,, and facts are everywhere,, you may as well as google it,, jojowiki
Star Platinum Over Ocean
Jotaro: Now I can stop time for 30 seconds straight now
Diavolo: guess I'll die XD
Jotaro fans :
time erase dont work that way
Jotaro: There's only one reason of why you won...
*My theme didn't play.*
But your name is shadow so you are not jotaro
@@Symboite3099 lmao
there 2 main reason he didn't win
His theme didn't play
and he didn't say yare yare daze
NO, NO HE DIAVOLO ONLY WON Because he didn't piss him off you fool
*SC theme played* Jotaro: Yarou...
*Josuke arrives and heals jotaro and gives him the arrow*
KC: Oh hell no.
SpeedJosuke Fondaition
Then Jotaro can now warp reality and stop time indefinitely
@@Mystic-4252 Nah that's over heaven star platinum, the requiem would have other busted type of ability
Jiren Owarida JosukeSpeed
Star Platinum The World Requiem is a long name for a stand
Everyone gangsta until jotaro screams : "STAR PLATINUM : ACT 2"
The only counterpoint here, is whether THE WORLD can be skipped, this video said yes, but if it can't, then everything Jotaro did in stopped time couldn't be foreseen or cut-out since his stand isn't moving in real time.
Of course it can be skipped. Why couldn’t it? You can’t stop time when time doesn’t exist
@@dexv1lz996 i mean you couldn't know for sure. Stopped time could work differently and not be able to be skipped, although i kinda agree. Still what if Jotaro activates THE WORLD before King Crimson activates his ability? Thats why its a what if
This would be a gunslinger duel whoever activates his stand ability first wins Jotaro would one shot diavolo the same way diavolo would one shot Jotaro
@@customshepard7954 Exactly!
@@customshepard7954 except Diavolo has epitaph, meaning that he’ll always be able to completely counter jotaro’s time stop
Polnareff: *contacts Jotaro*
also Polnareff: *doesn't tell Jotaro about how King Crimson works with blood drop trick which would lead to instant victory*
*_Laughs in dead french_*
Hell even a clock would work.
Jotaro Kujo I mean he has a watch.
Seth Hegex dead?
@@aaronnguyen4506 uh oh
1. You cant do shit in Timestop, so Diavolo had NO WAY to skip inside it.
2. Star Platinum is as fast as light, and strong enough to withstand a roadroller on him.
3. Diavolo was able to JUMP and withstand punches with a broken rib and broken legs.
4. King Crimson's durability isnt good enough to withstand Star Platinum's punches, it simply isnt.
Besides from those 4 illogical things, good animation.
Edit: My comment is now a battle, feel free to argue here.
Edit2: It appears people think that King Crimson can skip frames ahead of present time, it cannot, its ability just erases current time for 10 seconds, it doesnt erase the future.
Edit 3, 5 MONTHS later: This is my most liked comment, with an amazing 1.3K likes on it, im astonished at the fact that this little opinion of mine is near the front of a comment section, thanks for taking the time for trying to explain stuff and commenting here.
Actually he can, he uses the epitaph to forecast 10 seconds in the future. Remember when he had Metallica pinned and narancia used Aerosmith to fire at them but diavalo foresaw that so he erased the time that happened. No one can touch him in erased time and on top of that jotaros time stop is about 3-5 seconds long which is very small compared to the 10 second future forecast from epitaph and 10 second time erasure. Durability doesn't really mean anything, if king crimson punched star platniums hand king crimson's hand would break which is why king crimson takes precise movements. Remember sticky fingers had a d in durability so does golden experience however when golden experience punched sticky fingers arm why didn't it shatter? Or why didnt golden experience hand shatter when he had his hand pierced by the arrow or black Sabbath holding his leg. Durability doesn't always mean that he's instantly gonna die king crimson's power is a he can handle a beating. Not only that remember that when DIO punched Jotaro abunch of times and had his collarbone, armbone, and the middle of jotaros right ribcage shattered. But he was still able to stand and use star platniums to not get crushed by road roller.
ZyoH Ur fucking wrong about the time thing.
When time is stopped, there exist no time. Why tf would u use time skip in time stop WHEN there is no time.
thats the logical thing
JazzTheKoala
You’re right, what is there to stop when it is already erased?
You are absolutely correct he can't do anything IN time stop but he skipped the time before and during timestop also before making any claims that he cannot skip timestop time I'll go ahead and stop you there and say timestop has a set amount of time correct? Thus it happens in a time window which king crimson just shut completely before it ever happened. HOWEVER I don't think jotaro would die this easy and would definatly find some method of fighting back more efficiently such as using his bleeding arm to tell when he already erased time to immediately timestop assuming that time erase has some sort of cooldown or something
I'm going to explain how Jotaro will beat Diavolo around 8/10 times in my opinion. If Jotaro and Diavolo are just facing each other without knowing each other's abilities, Jotaro will win most of the time. If Diavolo uses Epitaph and sees Jotaro just teleport and possibly see himself beaten up on the floor, Diavolo has to use King Crimson to defend himself. Time stop completely counters Time Skip and Epitaph. I'm going to explain how. If Diavolo activates his time skip, Jotaro would be affected as well, as all would. However, if Jotaro (most likely, since in most of his fights, he always uses time stop ) subconsciously activates Star Platinum : The World, Diavolo is finished. Star Platinum : The world freezes time, and therefore freezes King Crimson's time erasure as time is still moving within King Crimson's time erasure. (Just so you know, King Crimson's "Time erasure" is a metaphor of people other than Diavolo not remembering the next ten seconds once activated). So in a scenario like this, Jotaro once subconsciously activates Time Stop would be confused as he activated it without him knowing himself. Remember, while time erasure is active, Diavolo is invincible to every physical attack to him, however, since Time erasure is paused by Time stop itself, meaning Diavolo is no longer invincible therefore vulnerable. Jotaro would also not remember what happened between the space and time before activating time stop, however remembers what will happen in his world of time stop. Jotaro would use this opportunity to pummel Diavolo into the ground (remember, Jotaro doesn't possess the will to kill, so Diavolo would just be crippled by an ora ora rush). Once Jotaro's time stop ends, Diavolo in his world of time erasure, would possibly see Jotaro teleport and suddenly crippled on the floor. He would most likely question what happened and with the lack of stamina to continue his time erasure due to the beating of Star Platinum, would end his time erasure and be lying on the floor unconscious. Jotaro, once again would be confused as time erasure ends, he would most likely taken steps forward or backward. Both Diavolo and Jotaro would be confused.
I kinda disagree. I feel like Time Stop would be affected by Time Erasure. But in the end I don’t think it would matter. The way I see it, Diavolo skips time and during that he sees Jotaro teleport but he’s suddenly obliterated, but he maneuvers away so he gets into the perfect place to attack. Time then continues and Star Platinum suddenly appears, blocking the attack of Diavolo with its crazy reaction speed. Then Jotaro stops time and beats up Diavolo where he cannot react.
@@lemonplayz4032 There is really no way how Diavolo's Time Erasure would work against Time stop, but the flow of time still remains in Diavolo's world so that's why I came to the conclusion that it is just normal time, but everyone apart from Diavolo are actually conscious within the space and the people affected are carrying out their fated actions. Just so you know, Diavolo can only see the result of what happens, he won't see Jotaro teleport but he will see himself in a bloody mess. But the rest just depends if Jotaro reacts to it in time.
@@lemonplayz4032 well no, because when time obliteration ends, jotaro will be styck mid action due to briefly being unconscious of what he's doing. Not only that, but diavolo tends to begin his punch DURING te, ending erasure right as it's about to connect, resulting in no time to react. KC has an A in speed too
@@k0ana889 also timestop isn't outside of time, it's one single instance of time dragged out for a longer period. its not actions outside of time it is a bunch of actions performed instantly. while watching jotaro's movements in time erasure, he'd see him teleport and probably notice a a sudden force passing through him and probably find that weird, but it wouldnt hurt him, and then he'd continue as normal.
Im gonna disprove you and show he wins 0/10 times. So lets say jotaro stops time, but before he stops time Diavolo uses epitaph! He can see that suddenly he takes damage even though NO TIME PASSED! So he erases time, which erases his action of stopping time, and the effect of him being damaged! Jotaro still has the feeling he stopped time so he will be tired, and feel like he just attacked and stopped time, but it didnt matter! Diavolo can also spam his ability unlike DIO and Jotaro! Hope this helps man!
There’s so many ways TS and TE can interact. Like its possible TE could just skip the whole TS, or it’s possible that TE cant skip TS because its stopped time and Epitaph can only see the effects of TS as if Jotaro just teleports.
Yea
if time is obliterated, king crimson will see jotaro teleport suddenly, but the force jotaro tries to apply within stopped time will just phase through diavolo. timestop is not outside of time. it is a prolonged instance of a single time frame. if time is not present, there is nothing to freeze or interract with. it is a bunch of actions done in an instant, rather than actions done in a ×■●♤•●□▪︎■♡~ abstract ○■○♤~■
as shown in golden wind, you still carry through the plotted actions in time skip, even if you're oblivious to doing it. if time stop and time skip activate at the same time (which is pretty likely, bc star platinum is just about as fast as silver chariot, and diavolo could react before silver chariot lands a hit) then jotaro would still carry out whatever he was planning to do to diavolo, and he wouldnt be able to stop it from happening. diavolo would still get his 10 seconds, but he would find it hard to do anything at all after jotaro pulverised every bone in his body.
You think people care about that, they'll just power scale characters based on how much they like them anyway.
Diavolo: Moves In Stopped Time Me: Wait A Minute
Sigh, he looks 10 seconds into the future to predict when jotaro stops time, then skips time right before jotaro skips it
Oh my god roplayer
Welp I guess the head to be a roleplayer
Jibby! He can’t predict the time stop because it doesn’t register into reality time skip does
Jibby! All Jotaro has to do is stop time and one punch him king crimson doesn’t have enough durability
jotaro just had to play the music and and say "yare yare daze" and diavolo would just ınstantly die
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Star Dolphinum
You forgot the blackscreen 🤣
Diwvolo in this, survived a broken bones. Diavolo in the Anime screams in 0ain while lying down because he was stabbed 1 time
Yeah it was strange
*after he got beaten to a pulp
To all the jotaro fans out there
Yall do realise that the fight wouldve been over as soon as jotaro tried hitting diavolo right? Diavolo's epitaph can easily show him that hes dead or about to be hit (if he gets caught in time stop since epitaph cant see in time stop it will just show the aftermath of him laying dead) as soon as diavolo sees the outcome he just erases time and since nothing affects diavolo while he's erasing time he can actually see inside of jotaro's timestop and can position himself behind jotaro, throw an attack, remove his time erasure right as timestop is over and right before the attack lands, basically leaving jotaro with barely any time to react to the hit and getting donutted
The only way I see jotaro winning that fight is by getting an 11+ second time stop which would be longer than time erase and Diavolo would be trapped in stopped time as soon as his 10 second time erasure was over
If jotaro hit outside of timestop diavolo would erase time, walk behind jotaro, throw an attack, and remove time erasure before that attack lands leaving jotaro with no time to react just like with timestop
The plan I layed out would be kinda hard for diavolo to figure out since he doesnt know how jotaro's stand works but with that op time erase and that op epitaph he can hang in there enough to figure jotaro out
Also i know the ending to my timestop plan is explained very poorly so just follow it slowly and try to imagine the scenario step by step
The comments section is sinceriy a tumor
He struggled to dodge a severely weakened Silver Chariot despite using *both* of his Stand Abilities.
And Star Platinum is faster than a Silver Chariot who isn’t injured and on a less predictable trajectory.
He’s still going to get hit first.
Not to mention Jotaro being able to survive The World’s punches as though they were just regular punches hitting the average person
Last I checked, Diavolo’s stand doesn’t bop buildings to pieces.
Edit: that last point’s kind of fishy.
@@wonderland9601yep…
@@Aaa-vp6ug no i mean you can tell that msot comments is from the cringe 2017-8 reddit hunmor era
@@wonderland9601 oh
He can’t skip time when he himself is stopped and isn’t King Crimson’s durability E and Star Platinum’s power A?
Yes
It isn't durability its persistence or how many times can he use the ability, durability was a mistranslation. King Crimsons power is also A so they are pretty much equal.
@@capitanfalcon64 i don't think they are equal the world has A in power but star platinum was stranger than him
Saleh999 X Pretty sure he wasn’t considering when their stands were clashing they were pretty much even in strength.
@@saleh999x9 still E in durability, and no, SP is stronger in bare hands than kc
naw jotaro would have gotten too pissed and learned how to reverse time
Well, I have a theory that Star Platinum is a requiem stand itself. Everytime when he had no chance, he adapted himself to his enemy and did overcome him with a new different ability he never had before. He suddenly learned star finger to hit an enemy that was too far away. He suddenly could breath all the fog from Justice in. And finally, he adapted a way to fight Dio, with his own abilities.
So yeah, it wouldn't be a surprise if he turns back time suddenly.
@@livingcheese2910 Star Platinum has plot power giving him time stopping abilities
@@user-uv5ld3cx5t That pretty much is the same thing as my theory.
@@livingcheese2910 nope star platinum and za world are exact copy stands ability I'm surprised why hermit purple and humanoid stand it doesn't make sense also It seems za world is less durable but faster
Or maybe Star Platinum and King Crimson are similiar Stands so he skips the parts where Boss hurt him
Absolutely amazing panel artwork, and tastefully done.
The animation is so goooood!! I've found this masterpiece long time ago but now I'm feeling like comeback to it. This is so satisfying!!
You can't skip time that's frozen since the frozen time doesn't actually exist within time. Big brain IQ for this one.
facts
@@shadowhy6710 you can't skip time if time doesn't flow. If Diavolo tried 'skipping' time before the time stop, then Diavolo would freeze in his last position during time skip. The reason this would happen is the time stop would stop Diavolos time skip, even if he was only 3 seconds in.
@@officialgaming9203 The stopped time will only work to "extend" KC's 10 second limit. The actions within that the stopped time would not effect Diavolo because the time erase ability would work within the single moment where Jotaro has stopped time. To be fair Diavolo shouldn't be able to move but the actions within that moment would not effect him, like how getting shot by Aerosmith didn't effect him during his fight with Risotto.
@@havokcomplex1425 But Aerosmith can't stop time, while Star Platinum can. So if King Crimson were to skip time Jotaro would either teleport for Diavolo, or he would just stop Diavolos time skip. I don't think the time stop would increase King Crimsons time skip
@@officialgaming9203 Jotaro would definitely teleport, my point is that KC ability would continue during the stopped time and the seconds after time resumed. I used "extends" because for Jotaro the time skip would be the 10 second limit for KC plus the time that was stopped. For example let's say that Jotaro wanted to attack Diavolo. Diavolo saw that he is going to be a bleeding pulp with Jotaro walking away from him. So he uses KC to erase time. Running through JoJo's attack let's say he takes 3 seconds to get in range then stops time for 3 seconds to ora Diavolo then resumes time and walks away for 7 seconds. For JoJo the time skip would have been for 13 seconds but Diavolo would experience a 10 second time skip. Diavolo includes JoJo's time stop within the erased time, any attacks that occur in erased time do not effect Diavolo (as seen how Aerosmith's bullets passed through him). My point is that a time stop compresses all actions into a single instance of time relative to the normal timeline, Diavolo will erase that instance of time, what happened before, and what happens after.
Jotaro: I have The World(time stop)
Diavolo: I have a video editor :v
basically youtuber vs the viewer
papulonche
Part 4 jotaro is a lot more careful than part 3 so when he realised the blood drip technique he could have waited for time to skip then stop time immediately so its an easy donut for a jotaro with an intent to kill.
He wouldn't just irrationally stop time like that
If Diavolo fought Jotaro then Diavolo could just use Epitaph to see into the future and if he sees that he gets damaged in the prediction then he would just erase the time where he was supposed to receive damage. Also Diavolo can spam full 10 second time erases unlike Jotaro who couldn't come close. Also Diavolo has great speed feats like when King Crimson managed to dodge Silver Chariot's sword slash and defeated Polnareff
diavolo can't erase events, he can just erase a moment in time. the events still occur, but he can easily dodge out of the way of any threats. within time skip, people still carry out the actions they planned to take, but are oblivious to anything happening.
also, star platinum can match silver chariot's speed, and diavolo only *reacted* quickly enough, he wasnt necessarily quicker than him.
Can confirm I beat him, he just cut the fight.
Edit: my name was Star Platinum when I made this comment so go crazy
That would make sense
lol
You can win
I think about it and i think that SP cant win solo with KC
Hey star platinum you user death ;(
*Jotaro sees a random person talking to a frog* Jotaro: Im going to kill him!!!
If he wasn't such bad person, he would be alive.
The moral of the story: dont interrupt people while they are talking to their boss using a frog.
I mean.. he is talking to frog, in the world of Jojo that's sus af
JOJO BIZARRE ADVENTURES LOL
Sounds like jotaro to me
Im about to end this mans's whole career
CometZ15 that’s how the mafia works
Jotaro : Ok let me just immbolize him.
Also Jotaro : *Breaks diavolo leg bones and shatters his rib cage*
That is amazing! Great work!
While I disagree with the results, I love the animation
It makes sense if he knows Jotaro he uses epitah and sees hes about to use time stop and erases time before he can do it
@@Artistofprocedure wouldn't he be unable to see what happens in stopped time? Since y'know it'll just show what happens after the results of what happened after stopped time instead of the full action
Artist of Procedure yes but jotaro already immobilized diavolo so would that make diavolo unable to use his king crimson
well, aside from time stop, star platinum had superior durability, speed and precision. so did Silver chariot and chariot got wrecked
@@Artistofprocedure You can not see *stopped* time since you know everything around you and yourself has been stopped except the person who used timestop. You can not erase stopped time either since it's stopped. All he'd see is just jotaro teleporting in his epitaph
If this was in the anime/manga i bet jotaro would have said "we have the same type of stand" and had jotaro get all the abilities king crimson had
FR tho😂
Star platinum's ability: copy whatever he thinks is strong
Lol what would his stand be called? star platinum the world king crimson. He'd be dead by the time he says the name of his stand.
Ouu. Actually.
N
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That's not what would happen. He only has the same exact type of Stand as DIO. No one else. He would simply stop time and steely dan Diavlo
@@spoopyghost2683
I like where that's going. Except you spelled Crimson wrong
can someone explain this to me:
i know that diavolo saw jotaro stopping time but how does he skip it when he can't even see what happened? like, he skipped the time stop that already started, he wouldnt be able to if it already started because he cant see jotaro stopping time, not to mention jotaro broke diavolo's leg, arm, and rib cage, yet he could still move?
He probably saw himself being beaten in the future with Epitaph, so he erased everything that happened during the Time Stop. Also, JoJo characters break their limbs and bones a ton yet they still manage to fight. I don’t know how to explain that one.
@@acer7217 yea that kinda makes this feel likes some plot armor bs
if jotaro stopped time during epitah diavolo wouldn't be able to predict it, because all he would see is jotaro either standing still, or teleporting
@@kakarotgoku4585 you know king crimson has 10 seconds Time erasure, it's possible when king crimson activates that time stop becomes useless since it only last for 5 seconds. By the time jotaro does time stop it'll be done due to KC Time erasure.
@@minecraftvvg4250 that's not how it would work. if time is stopped you can't do anything about it. the flow of time itself is stopped and plus the odds of Diavolo doing TE when jotaro does TS is HIGHLY unlikely. even if he looks in the future with epitaph he would see 1 of 2 things
1. jotaro teleporting around
2. jotaro not moving at all. if your not somebody who can stop time, there's nothing you can do unless your Giorno.
Yooo that's pretty cool dudd
jotaro: "a kid is playing with a frog... LETSU KILLU DA HOOO BEEEEETCH"
Koichi would be a supporting character if he was there
The ending: is an ending
Me: this is illegal.
I Love Cats, EXACTLY
im no jotaro fanboy but like it seems so weird that he lost
@Nathaniel My and? Sp still claps
This was awesome I really wish more JoJo fights were like this to be honest please make more JoJo fights
What if Jotaro were to pause time outside of the time skip.
dio got his skull literally excavated from one head punch, he was a 100 year old vampire, diavolo got hit directly in the skull from a punch that sent him flying. gg. also sf to the heart is gg
gg diavolo got plot armor
-logic has left the chat-
Pyrauxe That’s how mafia works.
I think the hits were fan service tbh (because if it wasnt that means the stats are a lie)
Thank you no logic in this video
Jotaro: Dies in a bullshit way
Dio: First time?
This was really enjoyable! A very fun and simple way to get across KC ability
Meti! It’s nice to see you here:D!!!!
Hey your here!
But do you think that Diavlo would win? Would this actually happen if they fought? It most likely true, I just would like an explanation...
@@jshereforareason6830 smart as jotaro is, he would not be able to figure out the ability in time for it to matter.
@Box Tank! Polnareff didn’t have too much trouble figuring that out, so why would Jotaro?
This is they best way to explain how Emperor Crimson works, I believe.
if kc skips time before jotaro stops it, jotaro would be a "sleeping slave of destiny" and he would react when the time stop already passed cause kc skipped 10 seconds, time stop occurs in instantly in 1 second
So, before I say anything else, I just gotta say: This animation was amazing. I actually failed No Nut November because of this. Now that that’s out of the way, I have some points to explain.
1. Diavolo usually, when using time erase, goes behind the opponent, because that’s his fighting style, and likes to end fights in one killing blow, like he (almost) did with Polnareff and Bruno, and mostly goes for the stand USER, not the stand itself due to stand durability.
2. King Crimson’s durability is an E. When Star Platinum broke King Crimson’s bones, not only should Diavolo not have been able to stand after that, but (If I’m being honest) his entire limbs should’ve just exploded from the force of his punches (note that even though Jotaro doesn’t fight to kill, he doesn’t exactly know the durability of the stand, and if Jotaro DID have a reason to kill, this wouldn’t even be a fight, lol)
3. I think I have a better interpretation of time erase and time stop amalgamating. Well, first off, KC doesn’t completely erase the action of you doing what exactly what you do, he goes through all of your actions in that time, and what he would see is Jotaro “teleporting,” and might likely assume he has the same/similar ability, which would probably throw him into a panic attack. Technically the actions he did in the time stop he cannot see, and therefore did not happen to him(yet), would most likely STILL happen to him after the effects of time erase go through, and he’d get ORA’d and probably get knocked out.
4(cont.): In another case, after Jotaro figures out KC’s ability(like he did in the animation) he, being used to being teleported behind(as it’s be done to both him and he’s done it himself), considering that SP has a somewhat mind of it’s own, instinctively protecting Jotaro from a speeding bullet, SP could(SP has never done this, so you could call this “headcanon,” but it’s a theory of some sorts.)instinctively stop time, Jotaro would realize this, and instantly ORA Diavolo, and the fight is over.
5. Diavolo is a cocky bastard. He’d probably put himself into a open position, thinking the fight is already over.(As said in number 1 and 4)
6. Jotaro would learn time erase due to asspull.
Also, just an add on. I DO KNOW THAT DIAVOLO TELEPORTED BEHING JOTARO. I only added that statement, simply because that is usually his first action, in which this case, was not.
The last reason is the best one, a truly golden comment, thank U
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What’s the difference between time erase and time stop in an outsiders perspective
@@flooplesmooples I think I figured It out like 2 months ago, but I have a very poor memory so... Now I don't remember the details. Still, I could say the difference is in how they interact with time, because of the "what you saw and touched was your future self". So maybe those affected by KC are kind of conscius of themselves at the moment time begins to be erased. While time stop doesn't let you see anything until time unfreezes.
Dragonball to JoJo? That’s a big switch lol. Not a bad thing just saying
i love the switch
+LumpKing [What-If #11] GT Goku VS Golden Frieza is still underway, this channel will always focus primarily on Dragon Ball unless announced otherwise!
Hyourinjutsu are you ever gonna do other anime besides JoJo or db?
@@Hyourinjutsu I still like your branching on other anime what-if fights, i still love your what if fights of db in general. But i really was surprised by the jotaro vs divalo, it was really good.
Hyourinjutsu I’m guessing it’s GT Goku vs Super Manga Frieza right? Cause even anime Battle of Gods SSG Goku would be overkill for GT let alone Golden Frieza.
This is so good
Jotaro: so, its the same type of stand as star platinum.
Star platinum: "erases time"
Wouldn’t Polnereff have warned Jotaro about his ability?
No cuz Polnareff in Part 5 is a crippled 36 years old man lmao.
@@WeedMaxxer he legit contacted JOTARO before battling with king crimson also part 5 is not sooo much years next to 4
@@WeedMaxxer since koichi is the same height in part 4 and 5
@@user-pi4ly6gr5f 2 years, actually. DiU is in 1999, Golden Wind is in 2001.
@@megaguy-pp9kc no shit he said not so much years
I have this question: How do you erase time that is stopped? If it is stopped, there is no time running in the reality, so there is no time to be erased.
KimoFest u r right
Underated comment
Both replies are incorrect. It's not that "there's no time to be erased", but that there's no time. It'd get erased in a moment, and Diavolo would be able to erase 10 more seconds.
I dont think thats how king crimson works tho
@@UncJah It does.
I don’t think KC can move in stopped time or activate it’s ability in stopped time. I also don’t think KC is physically superior to SP. however that explanation for time erasure was very good. The animation as a whole was great. It felt like a hyper choreographed JOJO fight which is perfect
Here's a little thing I noticed.
Jotaro Figured that During the Time Stop, King Crimson skipped time, This is impossible due to the fact that DIO and Jotaro are the only 2 who can stop time, in existence. (Minus any Alternate Timeline or universe counterparts) If time is stopped, DIO/Jotaro are the only 2 who could tell, and act in it. If DIO were alive, anytime Jotaro stopped time, DIO would notice, and could interact with it if he so pleased. King Crimson cannot do this, he can Skip time, not Stop time, Same goes for Kira's Killer Queen: Bites the Dust, It could rewind time, but if Jotaro Stopped time, Kira could not Rewind time, no matter how much he wanted too. Skipping/Cutting time is an enormous feat, but it's still nothing compared to Stopping time. BUT, If King Crimson Skipped time, (or used Epitaph) He wouldn't see every action Jotaro makes in time stop, he would see what any other person would see, Teleportation and random object movement, Not time stopping, moving around, punching, no. He would see Jotaro teleport, and and maybe a few items dash around seemingly at random. Although Fast forwarding time is a completely different thing, and could theoretically skip Jotaro's Time stop, Skipping time cannot, especially if Time is already Stopped.
Diavolo could still move as he is unbound from fate’s consequences, while using KC, but that doesn’t change what he sees
"that stands raw power is stronger than star platinum"
Meaning a lumpy sphagetti is stronger than a body builder
Jotaro: so it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum.
*_part 6 Star Platinum appears_*
Sadly that's true King Crimson is one of the strongest stand in Jojo. He can cut you in half with his bare hand.
@@thefull9746 Araki stated Star Platinum is the strongest physical stand in all of JoJo, King Crimson is powerful but couldn't hold a candle to Star Platinums strength
@@thefull9746 I'm gonna hold you right there. YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT KC IS FASTER THAN SP? SP IS FTL, IDIOT! BRUHH IMMATURE JOJO FAN.
@@EpicLegoSniper1 I would like to think that what Araki meant by SP is the strongest physical stand in JoJo is that he is balanced in raw strength and durability,whilst KC is Really strong in physical but really weak in durability.KC could still beat SP but it have to be done from the back where Jotaro wouldn't see it coming,as seen in the video.
Diavolo died as soon as Star Platinum punched King Crimson: anything after that happens on Diavolo's head.
Yes...just...yes
Nop.
True
Always Remember, if Diavolo dies, is Canon
@Jotaro Kujo if diavolo wins any fight that isn't him killing Bruno then it's non cannon.
King Crimson’s durability is E. And Jotaro already caved Dio’s skull in with a single punch, so I’m fairly certain Jotaro would have killed Diavollo with ease.
Also Kiss with A in every stats that died from getting their arms off:
@@wallyzrr to be fair, ermes had her head caved in by a rock minutes ago, the shock on her body might've killed her if not anything else.
I really like this interpretation of how the fight would go. First of all, I like how Star Platinum completely dominates King Crimson in a fist fight, which from what I know about Jojo power scaling, is accurate to how it would actually go. Heck, at least as far as I saw, KC only landed 2 hits in the entire fight: a chop to SP’s shoulder and punching Jotaro through the chest, both of which were right after skipped time. As for the other comments, there seems to be 2 main things people have an issue with: Diavolo being able to take so many hits from SP and him being able to resist time stop. Personally, if Doppio was able to survive getting his insides shredded by Metallica, I have no problem believing Diavolo could survive getting his bones broken by SP. As for him resisting time stop, while it’s not an interpretation I necessarily agree with, I’m fine with it considering that Made in Heaven was able to shorten time stop, so I can believe Diavolo being able to see and skip time during time stop (although him moving at the end is definitely pushing it)
mih was a bit of a different case, as the rate of things that occurred was sped up (as long as it didnt belong to a living being), and since time stop is something that has a time limit, that time limit passes by faster, and thus is shortened.
king crimson's ability allows him to "erase" the next 10 seconds of time, and epitaph lets him see what would happen in that moment of time. in that skipped time, actors still carry out what they were planning to do, even though they're entirely oblivious to it happening at all.
essentially, if star platinum stops time at the exact same moment as king crimson skips time, then jotaro would still carry out what he planned to do with his few seconds of stopped time, oblivious to anything that would happen during that moment, and then diavolo would be able to move after jotaro had finished.
effectively, time stops and skips, jotaro has no idea what happened, and nor does diavolo, because he couldn't see what happened in stopped time, nor could he interrupt it.
@@tolstyy624 While that interpretation is perfectly fine, I don’t think that it completely debunks Hyourinjutsu’s interpretation. MIH can accelerate time, and this also applied to time stop, making it shorter. Epitaph allows Diavolo see into the future, and if MIH’s time accelerates affects time stop, then Epitaph’s future seeing should also affect time stop by letting Diavolo see into it. And if Diavolo can see into time stop, then it’s not out of the question that he could also erase it. Like I said, your interpretation is fine on its own, but I don’t think that you have the right to imply that others’ are wrong, especially since this topic has so much room for interpretation
@@sometechydude2324it’s not actually time erase though. Time still passes so if the passage of time stops he can’t do shit
We can agree Araki didn't let Jotaro fight Diavolo because thinking about the exceptable outcome would give anyone a headache
I mean it be very unlikely jotaro would go in there without knowing how his stand works. Plus overall jotaro would stop time. And in stop time no one can move and don't even know time has stopped. Jotaro would have been better prepared to fight him
@@bluenitethewarrior9332 the only people that know that time stopped are the people who have a time stop ability, so only Dio and Jotaro
@@watch6272 yep
@@bluenitethewarrior9332 EXACTLY. ONLY Jotaro is able to move or someone else with the same ability. Even Diavolo will be frozen along with time. There is a reason it was Polnareff that faced Diavolo, and not Jotaro.
@@watch6272 exactly my point
Me: King crimson, a time-manipulating stand that can punch holes into people like if they were made out of paper.
Jotaro: So it's the same type of stand as star platinum.
*Star platinum proceeds to remove his headband to reveal another epitaph*
This type of cmt freak me out
too bad before he do that kc time erase and donut him
@@bongodoggo5381 **So it's the same type of stand as star platinum.*
NANI
The gem is epitaph XD
I love how you took the concept of how the others found diavolos ability
Diavolo would've lost cause how are you gonna erase time when time doesn't exist in timestop
King crimson: E in durability
Also King crimson: yall feel something?
Edit: when did my comment become a flame war?
That is not durability, is a misstranslation, they said it a thousand times in the comments
@@goddamndoor there is no difference. Star platinum would still fucking win. You cant erase stopped time
@@davidsupreme459 ummm jotaro never uses time stop in the beggining of the match but diavolo always uses time erase
@@gameuniverse5973 okay and? Jotaro could survive an attack from Diavolo and Jotaro could see how much Diavolo injured Jotaro. Jotaro time stops and pummels Diavolo which would injure Diavolo by a lot which humiliates Diavolo and Diavolo struggles to pull out King Crimsin because he has a durability of E
@@davidsupreme459 Diavolo way more durable if not as much as jotaro he survived a attack from a A power stand,self donuted himself,and got his face punch off by ger
*jotaro death*
Star platinum that has level power A : "am I joke to you?"
Bruh fr he punched king crimson like 20 times and it has an E in endurance
@@huss393 durability isnt even a stats its about persistence king crimson isnt made out of a weak glass
@@keyanims1978 can you stfu, SP broke both of KC's legs and yet he can still stand up, wtf
@@axethicalthis animation is non Canon and king Crimson is time erase so its look like star platinum punch king Crimson but he alredy time erase first
@@axethical also no need to be salty i only telling
Time stop means time stop. You cant skip it unless the time start to moving. Which means its impossible for him to skip time while the time stop
it does have a time limit remember, this is post part 4 Jotaro so he'd only be able to stop time for 2 seconds
Diavolo is skipping the time limit not the time stop
*"So it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum."*
How Do You Skipped Time That Didn’t Happened In Real Time
Just like any other type of time, Time Stop is basically doing actions while being stuck in certain second of Time during a situation, and then every action seems to occur at the same moment when Time Stop gets cancelled
While Time Erase can actually make all of this completely useless, simply by erasing the supposed second were someone stopped time and did all of those actions.
@@wdg2384 nah my guy time erase needs the flow of time while time stop doesn't, you can't skip time stop.
@@ok-bw8eu just erase the moment someone tries to stop time.
WDG Yeah Jotaro telegraphs his Time Stop so Diavolo could erase it but if Jotaro succeeds Diavolo cannot do anything as all actions within Time Stop happen instantaneously in real time. Jotaro will probably get the first one , maybe two, off whilst Diavolo is figuring how SP’s ability.
@@wdg2384 but umm even if he skips time TS is not real time so it would occur. If diavolo ST it would be his downfall since he can't attack or do anything other than reposition himself
I agree that Diavolo wins, but I don’t think it would go on as a fight, rather as just an instant kill.
Epitaph will always foresee Diavolo being injured 10 seconds before, allowing King Crimson to always be the quicker draw and skip time where Jotaro attacks him.
And what about stopped time? It wouldn’t really matter how long Jotaro can stop time, since it will always be less than even a nanosecond of ‘real’ time, therefore King Crimson will just skip it entirely, and perceive it as Jotaro teleporting from one spot to another.
In skipped time, Diavolo would just reposition himself towards Jotaro and deliver a fatal blow as soon as his ability ends (or, if he somehow perceived Jotaro being killed with Epitaph, he’d simply allow fate to do its thing).
A lot of people say that Jotaro would stop time faster than Diavolo can attack right out of time skip, but it’s been shown multiple times that it leaves people disoriented and confused, and Diavolo delivers the killing blow before they can readjust. Remember, even Whitesnake was able to attack Jotaro first, and Jotaro SAW Whitesnake coming in stopped time.
TL;DR: King Crimson hard-counters time stop, Diavolo kills Jotaro before he even realizes why he’s suddenly attacking the air at a random location.
To be fair, King Crimson only delivered two blows.
Two fatal blows is all it takes
Also I love how not one jotaro fanboy tried to "debunk" this
@@Fau499 - I do believe Diavolo wins, but I don't like how he wins. He wouldn't be able to act within Time Stop; but ten seconds of Epitaph are enough to beat Jotaro's two seconds.
@@ZorroCeleste1 I'm actually starting to become more sure of the fact that the 10 seconds he erases can be before the "present" time unless I'm wrong, but diavolo wins horrendously hard
I feel like this is completely inaccurate because diovolo cant move in stop time because time is stoped he cant manipulate it meaning he cant use epitaph times skip nor time erase so this is wrong. When jotaro stops time only people who have stop time or who can nullify it can move in it as show by tusk act 4 in the 7th part of jojo and by jotaro and dio himself. So jotaro would even have to try against diovolo he can just stop time injure him to the point of death then boom diovolo is dead and he wouldnt know bc he can see anything in stop time meaning epitaph can predict future of when jotaro stops time.
That's deep
he cant see Jotaro's actions in stopped time but he would see himself flying backwards from the impact of all the hits, after seeing this he would erase time to avoid getting beaten up.
although I have to agree that jotaro should have killed diavolo because of that fat E in endurance for kc.
It should of been the end of the fight when hr broke those bones because KC has very bad durability so the video isn't that accurate
Doppio: boss there’s a strange haired kid here
Josuke: what did you just say about my hair?!
*and thus part 5 was over, diavolo was dead and josuke was now a mafia boss*
It's canon since Diavolo is dead
Bruh. I can say that Diavolo can beat Josuke. Josuke win agaist Kira bc he had a team. Without it. I can say Josuke cant beat anyone
kenhdautientoitao ra
It was a joke, but yeah that’s realistic
no josuke wouldnt stand a chance buddy, i call that basically character stand cry overcoting
Thus he made everyone in gang wear a pampadour as a hairstyle.
This animation was godlike, but the biggest thing I think this video might've overlooked (aside from how KC's time erasure interacts with SP's time stop but that's pure conjecture until Araki states something about how their powers interact) is how King Crimson has very low durability yet tanks many direct hits from Star Platinum. King Crimson is extremely powerful, but it's got an E (very poor) in durability, probably because its entire power set relies on avoiding hits instead of taking them. Whereas Star Platinum's got an A in durability and destructive power, so I think any substantial hits from Star Platinum would shatter King Crimson's legs like they did to The World's.
Diavolo does focus on Jotaro instead of SP though, which negates that a bit. Amazing fight either way, could've gone either way!
After Stardust Crusaders, Star Platinum's durability dropped from A to C, you are right though, King Crimson couldn't hold on so much SP punches
@@dobletmatutino9446 actually it's A to E and that was only in Stone Ocean
@@draph91 Fron Star Platinum: The World to Glass Cannon: The World
plus star platinum was already stated to be the most powerful stand (in raw strength at least) in the beginning of part 6, which was with an even weaker jotaro. if jotaro punches with the intent to kill, it would destroy KC.
@@Excalibur5k It even punched a hole through someone's stand which had an A in Durability I'm pretty sure, one full power punch and King Crimson is dead
Diavolo: So its the same type of stand as king crimson
This Animation is really cool but i only have one thing to say: If Jotaro was to fight Diavolo i feel that by the time they were to fight Jotaro would of vastly improved his time stoped abilitys to make them last much longer considering how long it has been since he first fought Dio.
But that's just my opinion.
Nope, here's why:
DIO Being a vampire can survive infinite time in timestops. 2 sec? 5 sec? 8 sec? 10 sec? Even more if his stand continue to evolve
Bur Jotaro is an human being and even with the stand capacity, in long terms, Jotaro will suffer to spam timestops more than 2 and maybe max 5 seconds
I mean... Im not sure but I think that thing was saiyed in pt 3 or 4
DIO Is a Vampire so his potentiel of timestops has no limits
But Jotaro his not, so he only can stop time a few seconds
@@-ayoshattah-ilya14ans70 It’s actually because Jotaro is lax with his training. Even during the fight with Dio Jotaro’s time stop steadily increases, so I don’t think there’s really a limit. It’s just that Jotaro has a life and can’t constantly be stopping time just so he can stop time longer.
Diavolo: *Wins*
The Community: *Wait, That’s Illegal..*
Edit: *Feel free to argue here*
Edit 2: *My first time getting 100 replies (actually not replies but i'll just count it anyways)*
These are jotaro fan bastards
They dont want anyone to win except their fav stand user... they dont know how it works so they began to hate... such poor bastards ...
BloodMoon RoninX bastard!!! I mean ye some of them are retards but what can you do against that. They’ll just team up and try to beat you.
@@bloodmoonroninx7775 you're smart for figuring out how king crimson works, have a cookie.
@@huss393 if yall love jotaro so much... show other characters compassion or else... GET DONUTED
1- King crimson would have been destroyed by those hits of SP (KC durability is E, SP durability is A)
2- KC can't erase time that never happened, Diavolo shouldn't be able to move while time is frozen. Only Dio and Jotaro can do it because "The world is the same type of stand as Sta Prachina"
3- Beatiful sprite btw, really enjoyable as always
He's used nerfed Jotaro of part 4.
Made in Heaven can move in the Frozen Time .-.
@@123lokiyo no its just that pucci was smart as shit there
@@123lokiyo no, he can't.
@@felipeangelo6073 yes, Araki nerfed SP since DiU, but like i said, Za warudo is the best option against KC besides GER.
I'm really jealous right now because Jotaro's Star Platinum is stronger than the other Stands and he beaten those other Stand users but basically as King Crimson time skips, it becomes invencible such as Star Platinum...how impossible is this man...how impossible that Jotaro dies in this beautiful sprite animation
Dont worry, sp is more superior than kc
There are tons of reasons to prove that, this video is so inaccurate. This is NOT how kc works.
It really made sense when Diavolo moved in stopped time
If it was Araki, Jotaro would probably somehow move through “skipped” time.
Star Platinum: *ZA ASSPULL!*
Jotaro would've realized that he could use time skip too
Jotaro would’ve realized king crimson and star platinum is the “same” stand, and bam.
@@demolictorrent2177 I think his ability is to copy ablities other stands(of his type) how else did he got dio's ability.
KT S he didn’t copy there the same stands just different between too souls
@@skinnymanatee4621 They're similar stands, not the same. He didn't even have an ability until he met Dio.
" That stands raw power is even stronger than Star Platinum's. "
That is false but carry on.
I mean, King Crimson focuses on slower, more powerful attacks rather than quick, weaker attacks. It'd definately seem like it has more physical strength.
@@robo-raven2157 yea but remember the time jotaro punched through dio chest I say that it has the same strength of king crimson or maybe higher cause *breaking teeth stronger than diamonds*
Raven T.G Araki LITERALLY said that SP is the strongest physical stand
le frog that’s inaccurate as Diamonds are clearly Unbreakable
@@robo-raven2157
Just because King Crimson doesn't do a flurry of attacks like Star Platinum does, and instead decides to focus on singular, deadlier attacks that are set on severely crippling or even killing its opponent, does not mean King Crimson is stronger than Star Platinum. Star Platinum is fully capable of punching a hole in someone's chest or head (See the fight between Jotaro and DIO for reference), it's just that Jotaro typically holds back on his opponents, and doesn't instantly and brutally kill them. DIO was an exception due to the anger Jotaro had towards DIO, I mean DIO did kill Joseph right infront of Jotaro, and due to the fact Jotaro knew DIO could just regenerate so it didn't matter how much force Star Platinum used. A good feat of strength is when Jotaro punches a vampire with enough force for it to go flying through a stone pillar.
_If this happens, then _*_Part 6_*_ would be different._
Reminder, Time Erase Does NOT work like Time Acceleration when it comes to time stop
Pretty sure an E in durability is weaker than human, one of those punches that broke his ribs would have gone right through
Well both Za Warudo and SP have have A in strength, yet the one making donuts is Dio and not Jotaro.
NewNecro jotaro punched a bunch of holes into dio simultaneously at one point in their fight
@@marcus1723 I was rather pointing out the inconsistency of strength used in the series. Jotaro broke Dio's skull at one point with a single punch yet his stand rushes (along with Josuke's) never killed anyone.
It's unreasonable to assume every punch and kick are strong to go through people if killer blows are rare to begin with.
NewNecro Jotaro holds back pretty much he never has the intent of killing, but he really wanted to kill DIO so he didn’t hold back.
also when jotaro broke dio's skull he concentrated all his stamina in one punch, meaning he wouldn't be able to rush with each fist using the same strength he hit dio's head.
Personally, I think you did a better job than death battle would ever. Taking into account things like their ability to actually break down and understand the abilities of their opponents. But still, I feel like you made some mistakes
When time is stopped, the only people who can perceive it are those who have the ability to stop time themselves. To everyone else, it would seem like you are teleporting around, just like how Kakyoin saw Dio somehow vanish and appear in front of him, that's how everyone else would perceive it. That's why Jotaro was able to at least, follow him with his eyes. Diavolo does not have the ability to stop time so he can't perceive it. All he would see in his Epitaph is Jotaro teleporting around for no real reason, just like how everyone else would see Dio or Jotaro. There's absolutely no way he would be able to see what Jotaro does in stopped time because he simply does not have that ability
Nah actually time stop is far superior than that suppose diavolo skipped time in which jotaro stopped time . Diavolo arrived at that point where all the actions have already been taken and so when he was moving in skipped time independently jotaro's time skipped happened which even stopped diavolos movement in skipped time and the time stop changed results of diavolos actions cause diavolo can't move in stopped time meaning jotaro can invade skipped time but then it will be meaningless cause diavolo can see future so he would never skip time and then it's SP vs KC which I think would be a defeat for diavolo
funny how y'all are so sure of your answers when there's literally no way to prove them. dont get me wrong i dont wanna start shit im just saying as logical as your explanations may be it wont mean anything simply because an interaction like that was never shown
@@satan4817 Thats stupid, KC would win without any dmg, Epitaph will see TS (teleport) and Diavolo would use TE, hes not taking any dmg in TE so, just come to Jotaro and donut, GG BRO GG
@@user-sd9mu2rk7v cringe
@@EvanRobanneClips another SP fan
Edit: if you are talking about my English, idc
Finally finished Part 5, I think I can watch this now.
fun fact :this works in aut a jojo roblox game using time erase when a stand uses time stop
When was roblox the topic of this video+ aut is mid
@@fodderexperiencerequiem9092 ok then let me real quick do something
@@fodderexperiencerequiem9092 and because chicken nuggets are tasty