Happy birthday and congratulations to doctor who and my grandfather William Hartnell for making the best memories in the show’s history 😊 to the future and 100 more years of time and space
The TV Movie Dalek voices are a funny one; I kinda like them because I imagine them as being some strange, exotic kind of Dalek we've never seen before. In that framing, their wrongness almost becomes an asset.
I love Briggs but I wish we had lots of Dalek VAs like the 60s was always fun trying to pick out who's doing each voice. I love that David Graham came back. He sounds amazing
I recently listened to all of the Dalek Empire audio stories, and series 1 is fantastic because Briggs is accompanied by a few other Dalek VAs. Then by series 2, it’s just Briggs and I felt so underwhelmed. I love Briggs, but I love hearing other takes on the voice.
I like the raspy voices of the imperial daleks; they already have a different look to daleks from all other stories (different plunger, eye globes, etc.) so it helps to build that sense of uniqueness. Plus the whole story revolves around how they're different to the renegade daleks
On the colourisation I didn't initially like how they changed the first line the daleks had, but it is quite something to learn that line was done by one of the original voice actors
My god and the music they layered over the original, far better music! Practically made it unwatchable for me, especially in that scene. Removed all the creepiness
@@captainramius5047 Completely agree! Aside from killing the tone of the scene, the music is so loud in many scenes I could hardly hear what the character's were saying.
The Daleks look great in silver, they get destroyed in spectacular ways, the natives of Exxilon are interesting, and their living city is an amazing concept. My favourite Pertwee Dalek story for sure.
I do love the booming Briggs emperor voice, but the Peter Hawkins emperor comes through even with still images. The tinge of impatience when he demads "SPEAK LOUDER" and the big blunt "NO" he gives the Doctor when confronted about the human factor. He even sounds a little disappointed; they bring some short little dude before him and he sneers "So. YOU are the Doctor."
I am slightly emotional about David Graham (who can still do it, obviously!) being in a care home. My mum is now in a very touch and go state in a retirement home and there was something in seeing 'The Daleks' revamped (she was 26 when it came out originally and busy with my enormous and unwieldy older brother when he was a baby) that struck a chord. So much is being lost, but so much is being gained. And, of course, film is a good way of guaranteeing immortality.
This is the first time I've heard anybody say people don't like Death to the Daleks. It's my favourite Dalek story by far! And that weird horn music is fabulous.
The moment I saw that Rainbow poster and heard his first Dalek voice performance, I could suddenly also hear that obnoxious puppet. Amazing how well we can hone in on individual voices.
Yes and he will occasionally break into it on the Big Finish podcast which he co-presents every week! Nick was also the tannoy voice on the recent Children In Need short (which was a deliberate impersonation of Nyder from Genesis Of The Daleks)
I love Death to the Daleks, I don’t get why people don’t like it either. It’s got a lot of great ideas and manages to be quite different from most Dalek stories. The music is good too, especially the music when the city is melting. I do like Revelation of the Daleks as well, it might not be about much, but the snowy setting and bleak score make it quite scary. I think it’s the people being mutated into Daleks that makes it so terrifying. Aside from Day of the Daleks, I never really noticed the huge variety in the Dalek voices until they were all lined as clips in this video. Even the variations in the same story or episode never really registered, but it is true that they are all over the place! 😅
Agreed on all three! Death to the Daleks has the Daleks being especially clever, apart from the usual few who manage to get themselves blown up. But they adapt to the energy draining problem and they navigate the Exxilon city with ease. Revelation is creepy as all heck, probably the best distillation of Eric Saward's penchant for writing Doctor Who to be as bleak as possible - at least here there's a fascinating morbid plot at work, entertaining theatrics, and some darkly humorous elements to it all. The Dalek voices in Day of the Daleks settle down and talk properly after part 1, which was surely why they still get flak. They do sound very slow and off at first, but that was the first time they'd been back in ages, so I don't begrudge them having to recalibrate after their first recording session.
@@meiray That's the good thing about Doctor Who fandom, there are so many fans who have been around for so long there's always someone out there who likes the same episodes as you! 👍 I agree about the voices in Day of the Daleks, I seem to recall in one of the DVD extras they mentioned no-one remembered the settings for the ring modulator as it had been ages since they'd last done the Daleks.
It's actually really refreshing to see somebody like Nick Briggs not pandering to people because they are x or y. The fact he called out Geoffrey Sax's appalling Dalek voices is a credit to his honesty. Sure it was brutal, but that's gained my respect in him as a person!
I wholeheartedly disagree. He comes across as a major prick. Everyone in his circle was right to call him out for being rude. It speaks to his fragile ego. "HEY! I voiced daleks too! Isn'tthat cool?" "Don't compare what you did to my work. Your silly voices were silly, my silly voices are special!" Especially the bit where he says "they were crap and I'm not going to lie about that." You don't need to lie, mate. Haven't you ever heard that if you have nothing nice to say you don't actually have to say anything at all?
@@alanclarke4646 not really m8. I'm hardly in the same position as Briggs. This is a public conversation about public figures. I'm not their contemporary, and I'm not directly lambasting a peer to their face in front of their colleagues in response to an attempt at polite conversation.
I'm not a Dr Who fan but I am a fan of daleks and also of well researched and well presented videos. This channel is certainly outstanding in quality and delivering interesting facts. Absolutely fantastic.
I'm looking forward to the breakdown on the Dalek in "Destination: Skaro" as well as a deep dive into all the ones that show up in "Liberation of the Daleks" and where in the Whoniverse they come from.
If they ever do a remaster or special edition of Remembrance, it would probably help audience immersion to get Nick Briggs to bring some consistency to the Dalek voices. I mean, if the voices were different between factions, that would make some sense, and Briggs has enough different voices to pull that off, though it could also be interesting to have Briggs doing one faction, and another voice actor with another sound effects person or team do the other faction.
In defence of Remembrance 1988! I liked the variety, and miss it now. I’m going to accept the criticism that the Daleks changed between shots and mid-scene, okay fair. But that episode only used GOOD choices, and they’re all good to include. That’s preferable to Modern Who that gets a bit samey-samey with too much consistency. So I did enjoy the Emperor Dalek in 2005 and the Asylum in 2012.
That was superb, loving this new direction guys, and many thanks indeed to Mr Briggs. Great insights. Now I guess I’ll have to watch that new colourised version.
Well, it’s a little odd experiencing such an old favourite in such an entirely different way, including a few tweaks to the story, but I rather enjoyed it!
Great to hear his thoughts on classic voices. I went to school with his brothers children at Prudhoe & Colin Briggs stayed in our Village at Whittonstall before heading futher down south. Its a shame they Don't see eye to eye.
It was a shame in billions of ways there was only, one Dalek voice artist in Death to the Daleks and also Brian Miller providing Dalek voices in both Resurrection and Remembrance of the Daleks 4 years later Brian Miller was awesome voicing the black Dalek Supreme with white spheres and he really IMO would be awesome voicing Daleks on Big Finish and also voicing Cybermen too.
The mind plays tricks. I’d never realised how different every classic series voice treatment was. Sure I knew they weren’t identical but I thought they were almost the same. Thank goodness Nick picked the best version to standardise on for the revived series. Great video 😎
I will admit that I first saw 'Day of the Daleks' on VHS at college in the 1990s, after a particularly long pub night in Hereford (cider centre) and when everybody else was out. And, pissed out of my mind, it was - regardless of those dodgy voices - like an out-of-body experience. I thought 'Where has this been all my life?' I don't know. The older generation was spoiled.
These videos are so fab, thanks so much for sharing them. Might we see Part 2 with Nick at any stage? I remember watching this and being stoked at the prospect of some NuWho anecdotes/reminiscences/thoughts from Nick on more recent stories (particularly the Defence Drone voices in Revolution of the Daleks, which were a lovely nod to Remembrance)
In the Baker/Davidson era you could hear the voice of Zippy from Rainbow quite clearly as Roy Skelton voiced the daleks. It had the same back of the throat "fry" and cadence.
Love nick, i hope we'll get some variation in the sound of the daleks though! The absolute balls on that guy to just be like "your dalek voices were crap" 😂
@@Dalek6388 Not that. Apparently there are times when a third Daleks speaks and this person claims that it's William Russell because it's sounds similar to Ian's Dalek impression.
What are your thoughts on Davros now please? Personally I ask 'How dare they bastardise Davros' and I just noticed right in the middle of "Bastardise" is 'Tardis' LOL!
Personally I think the reasoning for the change is fine. I agree with it. But I don’t think erasing the past is the way to go forward. My preference would be to just not use Davros again (he’d sort of run his course anyway) and then make better roles for wheelchair users going forward.
you mean like adding rocket launchers and dart guns to their chairs to highlight how they cant just lamp someone ? I think your probably right and they should leave old Davy alone from now on ! great work ...cheers !@@Dalek6388
The _Remembrance_ ‘We must repair the transmat!’ voice was used superbly in Chibnall’s _Revolution of the Daleks,_ I must say. That might be the best Dalek voice for me . . .
I completely agree! The higher frequency of the ring mod gives it such a grating sound, it's awesome and I immediately noticed it in that chibnall dalek episode. It's great
I remember watching this on TV when it was first broadcast in 1963-4. I'm not sure how I feel about the colourisation and 'extra' dialogue. OK, Geek questions. How was the Dalek voice ORIGINALLY achieved in 1963? Briggs talks about an ADR (presumably an attack-decay-release envelope shaper fed into a VCA) for the voice effect. I'm not sure audio VCAs were commonplace in those days. It could have been using a (genuine, transformer) ring modulator, but I suspect, for budget constraints, a simple 'chopper' circuit was used, rapidly switching the audio on and off. Does anybody know the definitive answer?
I know people, Nick Briggs included, dislike the funny and inconsistent voices of the daleks in Remembrance ...but Brian Miller's delivery of *"You will be ex-termin-ate-ted"* followed by the rather flatulent blaster sound is one of my all time favourite moments of classic Who 😂
I recall feeling really let down by the voices in Remembrance Of The Daleks as a school kid in 1988. I even wrote my own fanzine about this questioning why ! Mad how kids "understand" more about the Daleks than do the adults who make the show! The same goes for StarWars, I guess.
Back before the Pertwee episodes began airing in America (they started us on Tom Baker), there were the Target Books: novelizations of serials. I'd already become a lifelong Dalek fan, having seen the Peter Cushing 𝘋𝘢𝘭𝘦𝘬 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘢𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘌𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘩 2150𝘈𝘋 feature film in 1966 when I was a child and my family visited England. I loved the 𝘋𝘢𝘺 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘋𝘢𝘭𝘦𝘬𝘴 story that I'd read via its Target Book, and when it was aired I was sorely disappointed in the Dalek voice "acting;" I'm glad to see Nick Briggs correcting that error...
My opinion on The Daleks in Colour for the 60th Anniversary is… I really enjoyed watching it so far. It was fantastic as we get to see it in colour for the very first time. I did watch the original version of the Daleks episodes from 1963. It was really enjoyable, but this version made it better based on my experience on watching it. It’s so good to hear both David Graham and Peter Hawkins original Dalek voices… and it’s fantastic that Nicholas Briggs gets to provide the Dalek voices again in most reused/same scenes. Three of these voices actors made the Daleks so menacing and ruthless as always. I also admire the new-series style gun effects including the sound effects of the gun (as you can hear the sounds from Genesis/Resurrection of the Daleks and some New Series too). Even the sound effects when the Daleks are moving its weapon and eye lens zooming. Even the 3D version of the Dalek City looked good with rain and all. Everything in the Daleks in Colour looked great. It’s FANTASTIC!!
I love the Planet voices, and for some reason I really love the way the Skelton Daleks in Genesis say "exterminate" in the Thal city, that high shriek. I had always heard the Revelation voices were stylistic and had something to do with being human-derived so they toned down the modulation. And if you're not a fan of Revelation, which I wasn't for some time, I recommend looking at Dalek Bumps' discussion of it, because while the Daleks are more set dressing, it's a very good exploration of how people will behave in a society that's been infiltrated by Daleks, and it has one of the best rosters of side characters in any Who story I've seen.
Kind of disappointing to hear that they redid old performances years later. Even if they weren't very good, it's still interesting to follow the evolution of such things. Plus it feels like a slight against the original performers, but that's just me. Also wish he had covered the Peter Cushing films just as a point of interest.
This is the first time I've seen some new effects in a story as old as Day Of The Daleks. Cannot say I'm too keen. I can appreciate them wanting to do something better than just turning the screen blue and negative each time a Dalek blasts somebody, and maybe updating it to the same kind of effect they had by the end of the original series makes sense, but more than that is jarring, and that skeleton effect is over the top.
I like Briggs. My all time fave though will always be Royce Mills (RIP) and the poor chap didn't even get a mention. IMO - no one did "bat$h!t-dalek-fanatic-true-believer/if-you-fail-to-obey-me-i-will-exterminate-you-and-everything-in-orbit-OF-you!!!!" better. I didn't find the style "whiney-school-boyish" at all. There was just something so . . . high pitched, determined, intense and absolutely dedicated about his Dalek portrayal. I've always wondered what it would sound like if Briggs gave it a crack.
I also wonder how he felt about Davros getting retconned. "I, Davros" was fantastic. I was really hoping it would stay on as canon as they've done with other Big Finish stories on the TV series.
I got to know Royce Mills slightly while he was in Jeffrey Bernard Is Unwell in the West End. Lovely man, very funny, and I was disappointed he didn't get a decent mention here.
The inconsistancy in Remembrance is even worse than depicted here. The dalek that hovers up the stairs changes to Royce Mills mid sentence after Roy Skelton says "you are an enemy of the daleks!" It then changes over to Royce Mills to say "you will be exterminated!"
Oh if Nick thought the Movie Dalek's voices were crap, just wait until he finds out what they were gonna look like! They did this book "The Nth Doctor" talking about the Movie's production, and a bunch of drafts tried to have the Daleks unfurl from being little dustbins into big metal spiders!
Dalek control room on Spirodon: Dalek Supreme: Report! Dalek: I am sorry but I can confirm no new Dalek 63-88 videos have been posted for five months! It is a matter beyond my control! Dalek Supreme: Your orders were to see that a new video was posted! Dalek: It has not been possible! Dalek Supreme: The responsibility was yours! You have failed! The Supreme Council does not accept failure! Dalek Supreme exterminates the dalek. Dalek Supreme: We have been delayed, not defeated! The daleks are never defeated! Now, who's stolen my ship? Hi guys, You do a great job and I appreciate a lot of work goes into these videos ie research and editing but will a new video be up soon? Cheers.
Lovely to hear brigs as always and isn’t wrong for almost a second tho I do disagree on resurrection that is a great story tho he isn’t wrong on the movie dalek voices theses are crap and while maybe his delivery on that was a bit harsh he wasn’t wrong it is terrible
Nicholas Briggs is absolutely amazing, he just IS the Daleks and I hope he continues to voice them for decades to come! It'll be a very sad day when a Dalek appears in a new episode and it's not voiced by Nick Briggs
I'd find it quite refreshing myself. I'm getting rather tired of hearing him in...everything. A bit of variety is fine. The old series had multiple Dalek VOs after all. 🤷♂️
@@9crutnacker985 "he wants them gone permanently" he never said that. And he's most likely lying about them not appearing in the new series, he's always been like that, he will lie in order to preserve twists and surprises, he did that during his first era too - in fact he said "I will never bring back the Master" and what happens? he brings back the Master, of course!
@@9crutnacker985 I'm aware of what you said but I'm not sure what makes you think that? there's nothing to suggest that, in fact he has said he loves the Daleks.
Great interview, but I'm a little surprised, given how thoroughly Nick went through the stories and dalek voice artists that Royce Mills doesn't seem to get mentioned once. Every other dalek voice does, but not Royce. He's the only one in all three 80s dalek stories, and I thought he was quite good, he was a lot better than Brian Miller in Resurrection. Seems a shame Nick skipped over him.
Happy birthday and congratulations to doctor who and my grandfather William Hartnell for making the best memories in the show’s history 😊 to the future and 100 more years of time and space
Here's to My Doctor.
David Graham is awesome. Between Doctor Who and Gerry Anderson, he's basically the voices of my childhood.
Didn't expect to see you here!
The TV Movie Dalek voices are a funny one; I kinda like them because I imagine them as being some strange, exotic kind of Dalek we've never seen before. In that framing, their wrongness almost becomes an asset.
So pleased David Graham was able to contribute. I was lucky enough to meet him in the early 2000’s and he’s a real old school gent 😎
I love Briggs but I wish we had lots of Dalek VAs like the 60s was always fun trying to pick out who's doing each voice. I love that David Graham came back. He sounds amazing
I'd quite like to hear Gary Martin voice a Dalek myself.
Would have loved Graham or Skelton to come back to voice the Supreme Dalek.
I recently listened to all of the Dalek Empire audio stories, and series 1 is fantastic because Briggs is accompanied by a few other Dalek VAs. Then by series 2, it’s just Briggs and I felt so underwhelmed.
I love Briggs, but I love hearing other takes on the voice.
I like the raspy voices of the imperial daleks; they already have a different look to daleks from all other stories (different plunger, eye globes, etc.) so it helps to build that sense of uniqueness. Plus the whole story revolves around how they're different to the renegade daleks
On the colourisation I didn't initially like how they changed the first line the daleks had, but it is quite something to learn that line was done by one of the original voice actors
My god and the music they layered over the original, far better music! Practically made it unwatchable for me, especially in that scene. Removed all the creepiness
@@captainramius5047 interestingly, most of the music was from a later 1960s dalek story "the daleks masterplan".
@@captainramius5047 Completely agree! Aside from killing the tone of the scene, the music is so loud in many scenes I could hardly hear what the character's were saying.
It was absolutely amazing to hear David Graham voice the Daleks again.
Death to the Daleks was the first Dr Who VHS I had for my birthday in 1987. Absolutely love it.
The Daleks look great in silver, they get destroyed in spectacular ways, the natives of Exxilon are interesting, and their living city is an amazing concept. My favourite Pertwee Dalek story for sure.
I do love the booming Briggs emperor voice, but the Peter Hawkins emperor comes through even with still images. The tinge of impatience when he demads "SPEAK LOUDER" and the big blunt "NO" he gives the Doctor when confronted about the human factor. He even sounds a little disappointed; they bring some short little dude before him and he sneers "So. YOU are the Doctor."
I am slightly emotional about David Graham (who can still do it, obviously!) being in a care home. My mum is now in a very touch and go state in a retirement home and there was something in seeing 'The Daleks' revamped (she was 26 when it came out originally and busy with my enormous and unwieldy older brother when he was a baby) that struck a chord. So much is being lost, but so much is being gained. And, of course, film is a good way of guaranteeing immortality.
I am 71 years old and I am somewhat entertained by this channel, have watched the original years ago
Glad you like it!
One of my shots from Day of the Daleks SE was in this video, I feel a strange kind of pride seeing it!
This is the first time I've heard anybody say people don't like Death to the Daleks. It's my favourite Dalek story by far! And that weird horn music is fabulous.
Something I'd like to know is if Roy Skelton, voice of Zippy, can do the Daleks, then can Nicholas Briggs, voice of the Daleks, do Zippy's voice?
The moment I saw that Rainbow poster and heard his first Dalek voice performance, I could suddenly also hear that obnoxious puppet. Amazing how well we can hone in on individual voices.
Yes and he will occasionally break into it on the Big Finish podcast which he co-presents every week! Nick was also the tannoy voice on the recent Children In Need short (which was a deliberate impersonation of Nyder from Genesis Of The Daleks)
@@davidjames1832 ah Nyder, what a nasty little man.
I used to hide behind the couch every time I heard the Dalek voice !
My ageing body still wants to hide.
I love Death to the Daleks, I don’t get why people don’t like it either. It’s got a lot of great ideas and manages to be quite different from most Dalek stories. The music is good too, especially the music when the city is melting.
I do like Revelation of the Daleks as well, it might not be about much, but the snowy setting and bleak score make it quite scary. I think it’s the people being mutated into Daleks that makes it so terrifying.
Aside from Day of the Daleks, I never really noticed the huge variety in the Dalek voices until they were all lined as clips in this video. Even the variations in the same story or episode never really registered, but it is true that they are all over the place! 😅
Agreed on all three!
Death to the Daleks has the Daleks being especially clever, apart from the usual few who manage to get themselves blown up. But they adapt to the energy draining problem and they navigate the Exxilon city with ease.
Revelation is creepy as all heck, probably the best distillation of Eric Saward's penchant for writing Doctor Who to be as bleak as possible - at least here there's a fascinating morbid plot at work, entertaining theatrics, and some darkly humorous elements to it all.
The Dalek voices in Day of the Daleks settle down and talk properly after part 1, which was surely why they still get flak. They do sound very slow and off at first, but that was the first time they'd been back in ages, so I don't begrudge them having to recalibrate after their first recording session.
@@meiray That's the good thing about Doctor Who fandom, there are so many fans who have been around for so long there's always someone out there who likes the same episodes as you! 👍
I agree about the voices in Day of the Daleks, I seem to recall in one of the DVD extras they mentioned no-one remembered the settings for the ring modulator as it had been ages since they'd last done the Daleks.
It's actually really refreshing to see somebody like Nick Briggs not pandering to people because they are x or y. The fact he called out Geoffrey Sax's appalling Dalek voices is a credit to his honesty. Sure it was brutal, but that's gained my respect in him as a person!
Just a true fan being true.
Even though he was a bit brutal, Nick did have a point with the voices of the TV movie Daleks being shit
I wholeheartedly disagree. He comes across as a major prick. Everyone in his circle was right to call him out for being rude. It speaks to his fragile ego.
"HEY! I voiced daleks too! Isn'tthat cool?"
"Don't compare what you did to my work. Your silly voices were silly, my silly voices are special!"
Especially the bit where he says "they were crap and I'm not going to lie about that." You don't need to lie, mate. Haven't you ever heard that if you have nothing nice to say you don't actually have to say anything at all?
@@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8notice the hypocrisy there, m8?
@@alanclarke4646 not really m8. I'm hardly in the same position as Briggs. This is a public conversation about public figures. I'm not their contemporary, and I'm not directly lambasting a peer to their face in front of their colleagues in response to an attempt at polite conversation.
I think Death to the Daleks is a good story too and the Daleks themselves look very smart.
I love how you're describing the daleks like they're your young nephew going on his first date 😂
I want that design to make a comeback.
Really great video on the Daleks and Nick Briggs sharing his insights! This is great. Happy 60 years of Doctor Who!
Thanks so much!
It’s a good day when you get home from work and you have a new Dalek 63-88 video to watch. Brilliant video
I love the late 60s voice, very reminiscent of the Imperial voice.
It is great to see the interior of the city in colour. It gives a far better image of the finer details of Dalek machinery.
I'm not a Dr Who fan but I am a fan of daleks and also of well researched and well presented videos. This channel is certainly outstanding in quality and delivering interesting facts. Absolutely fantastic.
Thank you!
Just when I think you guys can’t possibly have any super nerdy but mega interesting dalek related material left to cover you say ‘HOLD-OUR-BEER!’
Roy Skelton will always be my favourite Dalek VA.
Zippy
I'm looking forward to the breakdown on the Dalek in "Destination: Skaro" as well as a deep dive into all the ones that show up in "Liberation of the Daleks" and where in the Whoniverse they come from.
I forgot there was going to be a part 2, when would that be happening?
Micheal Wisher had already appeared on screen in Dr who three times before portraying Davros in human form.
In Kaled form
He's also a Vogan in Revenge of the Cybermen, right after Genesis of the Daleks.
Brian Miller is awesome as the black Dalek Supreme in Resurruction of the Daleks and he also voiced Daleks in Remembrance of the Daleks too.
That brief impression of the Dalek Emperor from Evil is very funny and very accurate.
If they ever do a remaster or special edition of Remembrance, it would probably help audience immersion to get Nick Briggs to bring some consistency to the Dalek voices. I mean, if the voices were different between factions, that would make some sense, and Briggs has enough different voices to pull that off, though it could also be interesting to have Briggs doing one faction, and another voice actor with another sound effects person or team do the other faction.
Get him to voice special weapon dalek too.
In defence of Remembrance 1988! I liked the variety, and miss it now. I’m going to accept the criticism that the Daleks changed between shots and mid-scene, okay fair. But that episode only used GOOD choices, and they’re all good to include. That’s preferable to Modern Who that gets a bit samey-samey with too much consistency. So I did enjoy the Emperor Dalek in 2005 and the Asylum in 2012.
That was superb, loving this new direction guys, and many thanks indeed to Mr Briggs. Great insights. Now I guess I’ll have to watch that new colourised version.
Well, it’s a little odd experiencing such an old favourite in such an entirely different way, including a few tweaks to the story, but I rather enjoyed it!
Great to hear his thoughts on classic voices. I went to school with his brothers children at Prudhoe & Colin Briggs stayed in our Village at Whittonstall before heading futher down south. Its a shame they Don't see eye to eye.
It was a shame in billions of ways there was only, one Dalek voice artist in Death to the Daleks and also Brian Miller providing Dalek voices in both Resurrection and Remembrance of the Daleks 4 years later Brian Miller was awesome voicing the black Dalek Supreme with white spheres and he really IMO would be awesome voicing Daleks on Big Finish and also voicing Cybermen too.
The mind plays tricks. I’d never realised how different every classic series voice treatment was. Sure I knew they weren’t identical but I thought they were almost the same.
Thank goodness Nick picked the best version to standardise on for the revived series.
Great video 😎
I will admit that I first saw 'Day of the Daleks' on VHS at college in the 1990s, after a particularly long pub night in Hereford (cider centre) and when everybody else was out. And, pissed out of my mind, it was - regardless of those dodgy voices - like an out-of-body experience. I thought 'Where has this been all my life?' I don't know. The older generation was spoiled.
Another highly entertaining video. Well done guys.
Lovely - you missed out The Five Doctors though! I love the ranty outtake...
“For an encore”
These videos are so fab, thanks so much for sharing them. Might we see Part 2 with Nick at any stage? I remember watching this and being stoked at the prospect of some NuWho anecdotes/reminiscences/thoughts from Nick on more recent stories (particularly the Defence Drone voices in Revolution of the Daleks, which were a lovely nod to Remembrance)
loving the 60th bbc content great to see new stuff on there and another fantastic upload brother 👍
A rainy sunday afternoon is what the 'Death to the Daleks' full-length was designed for. Let it be getting a little dark. Top stuff.
Never clicked a video so fast!
In the Baker/Davidson era you could hear the voice of Zippy from Rainbow quite clearly as Roy Skelton voiced the daleks. It had the same back of the throat "fry" and cadence.
Love nick, i hope we'll get some variation in the sound of the daleks though! The absolute balls on that guy to just be like "your dalek voices were crap" 😂
I saw a video claiming that William Russell did some uncredited voice work on the original Dalek story. Do you know if that's true or not?
Hmm not heard that. Unless it’s referring to when Ian is in the Dalek?
@@Dalek6388 Not that. Apparently there are times when a third Daleks speaks and this person claims that it's William Russell because it's sounds similar to Ian's Dalek impression.
What are your thoughts on Davros now please? Personally I ask 'How dare they bastardise Davros' and I just noticed right in the middle of "Bastardise" is 'Tardis' LOL!
Personally I think the reasoning for the change is fine. I agree with it. But I don’t think erasing the past is the way to go forward. My preference would be to just not use Davros again (he’d sort of run his course anyway) and then make better roles for wheelchair users going forward.
you mean like adding rocket launchers and dart guns to their chairs to highlight how they cant just lamp someone ? I think your probably right and they should leave old Davy alone from now on ! great work ...cheers !@@Dalek6388
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*_"I agree with it"_*
Imbecile.
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The _Remembrance_ ‘We must repair the transmat!’ voice was used superbly in Chibnall’s _Revolution of the Daleks,_ I must say. That might be the best Dalek voice for me . . .
I completely agree! The higher frequency of the ring mod gives it such a grating sound, it's awesome and I immediately noticed it in that chibnall dalek episode. It's great
@nubstuffer8268 - you ageee with a _Nazi??_ 😬
@@edwardcatt2399 Are you calling yourself a nazi?
@nubstuffer8268 - nah I’m calling you a ‘Minor Attracted Person’ and a would-be groomer 🤷♂️
@@edwardcatt2399 Yikes, that's some horrid projection from you there.
"Cue Nick and Benji!" 🙃
I remember watching this on TV when it was first broadcast in 1963-4. I'm not sure how I feel about the colourisation and 'extra' dialogue.
OK, Geek questions. How was the Dalek voice ORIGINALLY achieved in 1963? Briggs talks about an ADR (presumably an attack-decay-release envelope shaper fed into a VCA) for the voice effect. I'm not sure audio VCAs were commonplace in those days. It could have been using a (genuine, transformer) ring modulator, but I suspect, for budget constraints, a simple 'chopper' circuit was used, rapidly switching the audio on and off. Does anybody know the definitive answer?
I know people, Nick Briggs included, dislike the funny and inconsistent voices of the daleks in Remembrance
...but Brian Miller's delivery of *"You will be ex-termin-ate-ted"* followed by the rather flatulent blaster sound is one of my all time favourite moments of classic Who 😂
Me and my brother always used to say that dalek had a bit of a cold from being in that dank basement. 🤣🤣
YOU WOLL BE EX TER MIN A TED.
EX TER MIN ATE!!!
*fart*
This was wonderful
Great work. Excellent essay, any chance of telling us who the music artists are, especially for the Talons video. Superb music? Thanks
I recall feeling really let down by the voices in Remembrance Of The Daleks as a school kid in 1988. I even wrote my own fanzine about this questioning why ! Mad how kids "understand" more about the Daleks than do the adults who make the show! The same goes for StarWars, I guess.
Without the Voice the Daleks are not scary😱.. Really quite comical 😊
How many here are now about to go and look up the price of a Moogerfooger ring modulator?
Back before the Pertwee episodes began airing in America (they started us on Tom Baker), there were the Target Books: novelizations of serials. I'd already become a lifelong Dalek fan, having seen the Peter Cushing 𝘋𝘢𝘭𝘦𝘬 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘢𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘌𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘩 2150𝘈𝘋 feature film in 1966 when I was a child and my family visited England.
I loved the 𝘋𝘢𝘺 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘋𝘢𝘭𝘦𝘬𝘴 story that I'd read via its Target Book, and when it was aired I was sorely disappointed in the Dalek voice "acting;" I'm glad to see Nick Briggs correcting that error...
Four actors played the Daleks in Remembrance of the Daleks: Roy Skelton, Brian Miller, Royce Mills, and K-9 himself, John Leeson.
I think John Leeson did the voice of the battle computer. I don’t think he did any Daleks? I may be wrong though.
My opinion on The Daleks in Colour for the 60th Anniversary is… I really enjoyed watching it so far. It was fantastic as we get to see it in colour for the very first time. I did watch the original version of the Daleks episodes from 1963. It was really enjoyable, but this version made it better based on my experience on watching it.
It’s so good to hear both David Graham and Peter Hawkins original Dalek voices… and it’s fantastic that Nicholas Briggs gets to provide the Dalek voices again in most reused/same scenes. Three of these voices actors made the Daleks so menacing and ruthless as always. I also admire the new-series style gun effects including the sound effects of the gun (as you can hear the sounds from Genesis/Resurrection of the Daleks and some New Series too). Even the sound effects when the Daleks are moving its weapon and eye lens zooming. Even the 3D version of the Dalek City looked good with rain and all.
Everything in the Daleks in Colour looked great. It’s FANTASTIC!!
I love death to the daleks, one of the best liveries.
I often find it confusing trying to tell if that's William Hartnell or David Bradley?
I love the Planet voices, and for some reason I really love the way the Skelton Daleks in Genesis say "exterminate" in the Thal city, that high shriek.
I had always heard the Revelation voices were stylistic and had something to do with being human-derived so they toned down the modulation.
And if you're not a fan of Revelation, which I wasn't for some time, I recommend looking at Dalek Bumps' discussion of it, because while the Daleks are more set dressing, it's a very good exploration of how people will behave in a society that's been infiltrated by Daleks, and it has one of the best rosters of side characters in any Who story I've seen.
Excellent work!
Kind of disappointing to hear that they redid old performances years later. Even if they weren't very good, it's still interesting to follow the evolution of such things. Plus it feels like a slight against the original performers, but that's just me. Also wish he had covered the Peter Cushing films just as a point of interest.
They should have done all 7 episodes instead of this cut down version, shame, I would have bought it if it was all the entire episodes in full
Excellent- I really enjoyed that chaps!!
Thank you!
This is the first time I've seen some new effects in a story as old as Day Of The Daleks. Cannot say I'm too keen. I can appreciate them wanting to do something better than just turning the screen blue and negative each time a Dalek blasts somebody, and maybe updating it to the same kind of effect they had by the end of the original series makes sense, but more than that is jarring, and that skeleton effect is over the top.
I like Briggs. My all time fave though will always be Royce Mills (RIP) and the poor chap didn't even get a mention. IMO - no one did "bat$h!t-dalek-fanatic-true-believer/if-you-fail-to-obey-me-i-will-exterminate-you-and-everything-in-orbit-OF-you!!!!" better. I didn't find the style "whiney-school-boyish" at all. There was just something so . . . high pitched, determined, intense and absolutely dedicated about his Dalek portrayal.
I've always wondered what it would sound like if Briggs gave it a crack.
I also wonder how he felt about Davros getting retconned. "I, Davros" was fantastic. I was really hoping it would stay on as canon as they've done with other Big Finish stories on the TV series.
I got to know Royce Mills slightly while he was in Jeffrey Bernard Is Unwell in the West End. Lovely man, very funny, and I was disappointed he didn't get a decent mention here.
Tbh you guys are based, Death is one of my favourites, I absolutely love the voices and the aesthetics, specifically the machine gun arm, need it back
Michael Wisher best Davros ever.
I wish he had lived long enough to see the revival’s success.
Michael Wisher is the definitive Davros. Every other actor has just been a shouting characature
@@TimelordUK I like Terry Molloy and especially Julian Bleach.
Even whilst wearing a paper bag over his head.
RIP David
Hello there those Daleks are not cheap
To buy these days from this planet earth the film is fantastic
Brilliant video as ever, Nick is such a nice guy and he makes such a good Dalek. Thanks
Great episode 😊
I love your guy's stuff, but why oh why oh why did the colourist of the original serial make EVERYTHING lavender???
The inconsistancy in Remembrance is even worse than depicted here. The dalek that hovers up the stairs changes to Royce Mills mid sentence after Roy Skelton says "you are an enemy of the daleks!" It then changes over to Royce Mills to say "you will be exterminated!"
At last… About f****** time.
And I’ve watched Doctor Who since 1963.
We gotta get David Banks back as a Cyberleader
They got him back for a couple big finish stories
20:22 that's a good way to describe them
Awesome Video
I thought they just out a colour filter on it 😂
Great vid
Oh if Nick thought the Movie Dalek's voices were crap, just wait until he finds out what they were gonna look like! They did this book "The Nth Doctor" talking about the Movie's production, and a bunch of drafts tried to have the Daleks unfurl from being little dustbins into big metal spiders!
10:24 Cardboard cut-out Daleks!
I prefer the original voices.
Wait, did you manage to get an interview with Nicholas Briggs?
Yep!
Edit: Death to the Daleks is a phenomenal story, right there with you two!
Best channel on YT
Reeling from that Geoffrey Sax anecdote XD
Dalek control room on Spirodon:
Dalek Supreme: Report!
Dalek: I am sorry but I can confirm no new Dalek 63-88 videos have been posted for five months! It is a matter beyond my control!
Dalek Supreme: Your orders were to see that a new video was posted!
Dalek: It has not been possible!
Dalek Supreme: The responsibility was yours! You have failed! The Supreme Council does not accept failure!
Dalek Supreme exterminates the dalek.
Dalek Supreme: We have been delayed, not defeated! The daleks are never defeated! Now, who's stolen my ship?
Hi guys, You do a great job and I appreciate a lot of work goes into these videos ie research and editing but will a new video be up soon? Cheers.
We have some more videos in the works!
@@Dalek6388 Yes, I just saw that you've put one up concerning 'The Chase'- the Dalek Supreme will be pleased!
Lovely to hear brigs as always and isn’t wrong for almost a second tho I do disagree on resurrection that is a great story tho he isn’t wrong on the movie dalek voices theses are crap and while maybe his delivery on that was a bit harsh he wasn’t wrong it is terrible
Is david graham also brains from thunderbirds ?
Yes!
Lovely video. Who hasn't pondered about the crap voices at some point? lol
Nicholas Briggs is absolutely amazing, he just IS the Daleks and I hope he continues to voice them for decades to come! It'll be a very sad day when a Dalek appears in a new episode and it's not voiced by Nick Briggs
I'd find it quite refreshing myself. I'm getting rather tired of hearing him in...everything. A bit of variety is fine. The old series had multiple Dalek VOs after all. 🤷♂️
Well RTD has promised they WON'T be appearing in this next (15th) series & I think he wants them gone permanently. What a cnut.
@@9crutnacker985 "he wants them gone permanently" he never said that. And he's most likely lying about them not appearing in the new series, he's always been like that, he will lie in order to preserve twists and surprises, he did that during his first era too - in fact he said "I will never bring back the Master" and what happens? he brings back the Master, of course!
@@friendlyotaku9525 nicely editing out my words "I think...". Seems like you & RTD have much in common.
@@9crutnacker985 I'm aware of what you said but I'm not sure what makes you think that? there's nothing to suggest that, in fact he has said he loves the Daleks.
hoi just wondering can i make a reaction to this video please. ill credit your video.
Sure!
10:45
_"A new Dalek voice artist"_ my foot!
Millions of 7 year old kids could do exactly the same!
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Great interview, but I'm a little surprised, given how thoroughly Nick went through the stories and dalek voice artists that Royce Mills doesn't seem to get mentioned once. Every other dalek voice does, but not Royce. He's the only one in all three 80s dalek stories, and I thought he was quite good, he was a lot better than Brian Miller in Resurrection. Seems a shame Nick skipped over him.
#isitwithdavros
Nick is a legend but redubbing really doesn't sit well with me.
Excellent work guys Nick briggs is brilliant at the voice of the daleks