was Doctor Who still on TV at the time, how could any one not relies that Dalek, looking thing, looks like think from that film, and the tv shows even if they where not scfi nut, I think any who , only had passing interest tv would of seen what they where,
Things which exist in the present seem unimportant to us now because they arte common. Back then, adults were firmly convinced that Dr. Who was a kids show and placed no value on the props existing "at that time." I'd say it all seems perfectly normal, unfortunate, but not unusual.
Only Dr Who fans could show a photo of a woman in a bikini with a Dalek and talk about the Dalek. Brilliant video as usual. Shockingly thorough research. 👏👏♥️🤖
An even simpler answer for the production team would have been to change absolutely nothing and maybe just add a little line in the script that these were "special mission daleks" or something. You bet Terry Nation would have lapped up the chance to expand the lore and (more importantly) crank out new merchandise.
I saw Daleks in the toy department of a Manchester Department Store ( there were two competing stores, both with extensive toy departments- so it was either Lewis's or Pauldens ( later to be bought out by Debenhams). It was probably Lewis's as they had an ambitious publicity team- as they also exhibited the TV Batmobile at a later date. After watching your video, I have deduced they were most likely Movie Daleks I saw, as there were more than 4 of them. The time frame was mid 1960s, I was very young ( and scared of them).
@Dalek 63•88; I was wondering, do you have any plans to make episodes about stories post 1960’s? Only I was watching Resurrection of the Daleks the other day and I kept noticing that the Daleks had a weird nub on top of the dome and it’s driving me mad that there seems to be no explanation for it. Might be a small issue, possibly only worth a short, but if anyone can answer it, it’s you 😅
@@Paul_M_Bradley :P This 'feature' is touched upon on the Dalek 63-88 website for these later stories..... apparently it was a new internal 'A' frame being used to allow rotation of the dome; probably a cost-cutting measure, though why the extra 'spike' sticking out of the top was never trimmed back, I don't know..! 😉
Yes, it was a huge debacle and yes it probably drained money from the BBC, but am I glad it happened? Yes! Those props still look amazing in those colours and without it we wouldn't have movie Dalek action figures, so there's that. I now own 4 official movie Daleks and one TV varient of the same prop in my figure collection and couldn't be happier.
Drained money? They were quibbling over the cost of a new coffee table. These were not exactly "bank breaking." The BBC just had a philosophy of total frugalness, since it was a public institution, and had to justify the "value to the Britain public" for every shilling spent. Now a days a typical BBC show could build a dozen for the cost of catering for a week.
Unbelievable that three original movie Daleks were disposed of in that way. Being broken up for a go cart is bad enough, but being taken and burnt on a bonfire without the owners permission deserves extermination, or at the very least a spell in a Dalek mine!
Deserves prison time (obviously, it's theft and vandalism), but if I were the owner I think there'd be a fair few punches thrown at those responsible; broken teeth, noses, thumbs in eyes, etc.
That's funny, as a kid I remember deciding they must have only had 3 props from series 1-3 (not including Sec), then getting confused by the parting of the ways where there were more than 3 that didn't look CG.
@@azngf you know what, I had a sneaking suspicion something like that would be the case. Good reuse of props. What happened to the battle damaged one from Dalek though? Was it a separate model?
@@JOCoStudio1 Only the skirt was separate. The top half was repainted and cleaned up for use on the pristine prop. The damaged skirt ended up in various exhibitions afterwards, but I’m not quite sure where it is now.
Great production quality as always. I was cringing at the end hearing of the various fates of the daleks 😳 fascinating how little they were thought of back then...
Gosh that ending was a little grim, these three pieces of film and tv history just ending up casually destroyed and/or thrown out. The bit with the daleks being needed back at short notice has been a bit of serendipity after the fact for us collectors of the 5" Character Options doctor who figures, since an exact movie style dalek technically appeared in Doctor Who, it meant we were able to get a figure of one, despite the film daleks on the whole not being within the CO licence, so that was a definite benefit. That initial movie blue dalek is my all time favourite design, so it's lovely to be able to have one in the same scale as the rest of my figures.
@@aydinstone they put out one with a small TV style fender about 8 years earlier, meant to approximate the baseless one, I thought for long enough that was as close as we'd get
That early in the history of Doctor Who they were just props. No one would have remotely guessed that the story would be ongoing nearly 60 years later and that original Daleks would gain a form of historical value.
Seeing a new upload from this channel is like finding another present behind the Xmas tree after you thought you'd unwrapped everything. Absolutely love it.
God, the bit about the fate of the prize props at the end is painful. Another fantastic upload all, these facts and stories could so easily have been lost to time.
These videos are so fascinating and so well done . I am appalled that these Daleks ended up being destroyed, its so sad and such a loss to the history of the TV and film series. Congratulations on such an interesting video. 👏
One being turned into a go-kart and another into a guy for Guy Fawkes Night! There’s actually a better ending - the Dalek that became a go-kart got revenge and transformed back into a Dalek and exterminated the kids that turned it into a go-kart and the one that became a guy exterminated all attendees at the fireworks display!
Another great and fascinating video! Thank you! I can't believe they burned a flippn' Dalek on bonfire night. Oh the humanity! 😭 It did make me chuckle that they took all this care and attention to make the Daleks match (right up until the points where they didn't, of course) and yet at the time we were watching these shows on our fuzzy b&w TV's ONCE with no repeats and no VCRs. We really wouldn't have noticed! 😂
The Dalek Invasion of Cannes is a classic. The big screen adaptation, Daleks - Invasion Cannes: 1965 A.D. starring Clive Dunn, was made in-universe canon by Steven Moffat in the Target novelization of Buddy, Can You Spare Us The Paradigm
I am really pleased you made this clear as I like "The Chase" but wondered why for so many years the background Daleks were missing their lower bumper and sat in the background! 😄
I went to that exhibition at Bingley Hall! I would have been 10 years old,. I remember it like it was yesterday, because there was a little electric 'train' that drove kids around the Dalek 'compound', and the Dalek came up to me and touched me with its plunger arm, and I burst into tears and had to be taken off the train! So a lasting, and slightly shameful memory for me. ;-)
I just can't believe the detail that you put into these vids. Where on earth do you find your background information? Even down to the rivet details on a particular prop? BUT - thank you for what you do, from a 68 year old who loved the Daleks (can I say that?).
Aw man, I've always been holding out hope that one of the Daleks in the crane-shot had a claw, considering you can't see the appendage in that one. That way we might've been able to get a Character Options figure with a claw version. XD Either way, super glad this shot exists due to it allowing us to get the Movie Dalek (with sucker) as a CO figure, customised one of mine to have a claw. :)
Movie Daleks are just so sleek. Within months after the films, the props were a sadly a mess. Can't believe they burnt one in a bonfire, they burnt anything in the 1960's!!
Yeah I heard they burnt the Black Dalek. Imagine in the height of Dalekmania thinking " well what should we do with these then. Give them away. No. No-one would want these things! "
I once knew someone who claimed to have an original movie dalek from the 65 film, maybe the missing casing mentioned here, by this point painted as the black dalek leader. This was about ten years ago, and I was much to young to have any way of authenticating it. This was in Devon, UK. I'll do some research.
As always, hats off to you guys for yet another fantastic video. Your content always deserves total attention as a mark of respect for the work you put into your channel.
Smashing episode! Also provides a nice visual to explain Character Options' The Jungles of Mechanus set. I've never actually noticed the movie Daleks in that scene until today.
You've returned - I initially did not believe it, and yet the video is four days old. Welcome back. I loved your Star Wars and Doctor Who, Dalek gunstalk video - informative and well-reasearched. This video is no different, dare I say an improvement. I shall watch this resurgence with great interest.
How do they let them get into such a state?? I'd polish and cherish a prop if I had one... Anyway - great video as always and fascinating to see what happens to these props... (Fab music too!) Looking forward to the next one :)
If I were the parents of that last kid I would have sued somebody responsible for the prop's burning. They took a beloved item away from a kid and burned it. I wouldn't do that to just another promo piece but considering they stole it from a kid is just jerkish.
The movie Daleks looked so much better than the TV ones..... What a sad end...... Can't believe they would casually give them away "willy-nilly" to all and sundry..... Another fascinating video. Thanks guys X
I actually liked the variations on the Daleks. I though they would have different features because they had different "ranks" or were upgrades. It also gave them a degree of individuality. I wouldn't have even changed the lights personally.
I don't know where to begin with praise regarding the level of details in this video. The bit of info on the blowtorch Dalek showed that I had missed a few interesting features in situations where 'beefing up the numbers ' was needed, but I thought I'd been told all about the Bernado Daleks, but I was wrong, there was definitely more to that story. I'm shocked to hear about the winners and their Daleks, how can you get fed up storing a Dalek, and who in their right mind puts a Dalek on a bonfire, there could be some odd kind of payback but not at the cost of upsetting the kids. Sorry for rambling, as ever 'guys', nice video and awesome work on the details. Look forward to seeing more. Take care and stay safe.
Great video as always. So Fascinating to watch. You can see so much effort that goes into the making of these. Thank you so much for creating them for us to enjoy 😉
The cool thing about the photos from within Shawcraft is that it looks exactly like a fan’s garage or workshop when they start building a replica themselves. Getting the skirt to that stage with all the holes is such an iconic step in the process
This channel never fails to amaze me with its research. Just wonderful to know details. I wonder, recalling the poll you made a couple years back, will you be doing similar things on this channel in relation to the cybermen?
This is so obsessively nerdy, I absolutely love it! Brilliant research, and great narration deserve genuine congratulations, from a fan who watched "live" the very first appearance of the Daleks on telly, as a kid.
I am currently making a a 3 d printed model kit dalek about 1/5 scale (I have made two sevans daleks and two comet miniatures in the past) with this latest build I'm going for the red top dalek in honour of the fantastic Denys Fisher toy back in the day. Your videos have been a real eye opener in the world of Daleks and I really appreciate your work and research, fantastic!
Cool episode. There are images of the movie Daleks at Blackpool North station when they went to a film distribution conference, probably at the nearby Odeon cinema. Those Daleks certainly got around 🙂
Thank you so much for these great Dalek documentaries. They are really interesting and the research is impressive. You make them required viewing. I remember seeing one of the Daleks at Harrogate Dr Barnardos and remember some kids being pretty rough with it in the playground. No photos though, wish we had some to find out which it could have been.
Thank you James! We are currently working on a video on the Barnardo's Daleks and Harrogate was a town we hadn't heard connected with them before. So there is another little piece in the puzzle! You wouldn't happen to know a rough date by any chance?
I know the memory plays tricks, but I'm sure we saw a Dalek at Pinewood Studios in the early 1970s. We were walking in Black Park and on the Pinewood Studios side of the chain link fence a Dalek was lying on its side looking quite sorry for itself and not the least bit scary. It was amongst a pile of other props just lying between the fence and the wall of an outbuilding. My mum and dad and brother all remember seeing it, but I don't know anything about how it got there!
What phenomenal research! (As usual) I almost feel like you are creating a 'life' for each on screen Dalek. Will further investigation warrant fan magazines of each 'personality'. When will tabloids appear with headings like "The shocking off-screen life of Dalek 6"? Thank you for such wonderful content.
Fascinating as always! It’s such a shame to hear the fate of those props (especially the one unlucky enough to have “rotting” fibreglass…). It’s quite amusing to hear of all that effort they went to just to have the movie Dalek props sat on the stage floor without their fenders. I still love how you can identify the exact props just from some slight discolouration or rivet alignment. I also really enjoyed how you enhanced that high shot from episode 5 to reveal the Tardis in the background. It’s amazing what can be found with a bit of sleuthing like that.
Excellent attention to detail well done. I recall a full size red Dalek on loan to Woodside School at Moulsecomb in Brighton around 1968/9. No idea if it was a prop or scratchbuilt but it was big and red and certainly looked 'real'. It was parked in the reception area for about a month.(although it may have been a lot less) My school friends dad; Mr Burton, was the caretaker at the school.
Thank you! Check out our 2019 season playlist. We have a couple of videos based around Terry Nation's own Dalek props. It sounds like you may have seen one of his movie props. He had a red one around that period.
Well, well, well, i had no idea!!! I've just watched your 2019 season playlist. For what its worth, Woodside school was the local special needs school in Brighton during the 60's and 70's. its long gone now. However, when I saw the Red Dalek in the Whickers world clip from 1967, it all of a sudden looked very familiar!! i've got a feeling I can confirm that it was in Brighton back then. it all makes sense!...wow!..big smile on my face now!!
Another brilliant video, featuring the young Richard Martin looking scarily like David Tennant! I do remember seeing Daleks at Bingley hall, though I can't say if they were the Barnado's Daleks. And, Like yourselves, I would so much like to see some kind of visual record to prove that the Daleks I so vaguely recall were genuine BBC Daleks. I also remember the Brainy Train, and sort of remember the Daleks shooting out their sucker sticks to strike at the train as it went by. Hope my shadowy memories are of some help. I only recently learned that William Hartnell himself went to Bingley Hall on one of the exhibition days, Though I have no idea if it was the day I went. Though I think if it were, I would certainly have remembered meeting Doctor Who!
I've probably seen "The Chase" half a dozen times, and even though I knew there were movie Dalek props in it, I never spotted them 😂 must do a rewatch!
@@Faction.Paradox 😂 Yeah! I don't mind the story, I think it gets a bit of a bad reputation rather unfairly. It certainly has its faults but the general idea of the story was quite good and took the series into a direction it hadn't been before. I really must take more notice of the mechanus jungle scenes next time I watch!
Multiple press adverts for the Midlands Boys & Girls Exhibition certainly do have "THE DALEKS" prominently headlining, and it running to 24 April would certainly tie in with them being available from 27 April onwards.
6:27 is one of my Amtec casts I had made from the amber Canada set with jug (actuallyis that the one I sent JK). I belive there were never any red or blue moulded beakers. I believe they we're all hand painted clear beakers. Notice the different shade of red from the first film to the second. multiple second film drone props also have subtle differences in the shade of blue paint. maby they were running out of glass paint and had to thin it out...
those props getting the axe there at the end is down right heart breaking. to think all of those incredible bits of who history were lost in such horrific ways. the go kart hurts the worst. didnt even get a funny death like the bonfire dalek poor thing.
Great video.....I remember 'Forbidden Planet' sci fi store, in London, used to have a Dalek prop on display.....this was mid 80's so before cosplay became the industry we have now.....so I can only assume it must have been screen used. It didn't relocate with the store, sadly 🤔
As far as I know they still have that Dalek in one of their outlets. They suggest its screen used but its clear that not all of it is. The skirt section isn't for sure. There may be a chance that some of it is, but without closer inspection we can't be sure.
I refer to the Movie Ones as the 'Chase Guard Daleks' thier designation is they guard the Daleks time capsule from any intruders. In my AU story, Wrath of the Gods, they get a lot more screen time and are going to speak. The reason they don't have slats like thier brethin/sisterin is that I've got around this loophole by having them be that they are experimental units while the Daleks were working on how to power themselves from Skaro's sun. I have one in MIB, I'm trying to get two second hand ones, don't care if they'd knocked about or scratched as that's accurate to the props, right?
I really enjoyed that post Gavin! Excellent!! I can understand why Shawcraft didn’t want all want the Props hanging around for any length of time…there is hardly any room in their front yard! You do realise that the building is still there? (but without front wall & gate) I’ve been past there a few times to “take it all in”, anyway, keep up the good work chaps.
I remember that copies of the film Daleks were made for funfair rides, that you could sit inside. They were very good and full size. I saw one in Southport about 1966.
The Chase is my absolute favourite Classic Who story and its so gratifying that i can learn so much more about it through you guys. I'm amazed how many videos there are based around this one serial.
That was extremely interesting. I've watched pretty much every episode of Dr.Who from episode 1 onward. It's a real shame so many of the early episodes are missing. I would gladly watch them again. Yeah, I'm an old nerd.
There’s a Dalek in Eastbourne, always outside a shop in Grove Road, it’s been painted white and pink for some reason but it’s been there years, it’s quite old, never know… it could have been a bbc Dalek, possibly a Bernardo Dalek
I don't have any problem with the props given away having fallen by the wayside. The first and second had truly proper ends for a film/television prop.. they brought joy and fun, and especially the second, found a second life through it's parts being reused for more fun. The first meeting a less proper end, but no less dignified, having been fondly remembered and probably left gathering dust and mice until the storing people decided it needed to go. The last one however, makes me sad. Obviously enjoyed both by the child and his family.. to have it torn away and burned by pranksters. That just sucks.
Thank's for uploading! Perhaps the Dalkes had similar problems and improved and added things to their armours when they needed to for various reasons, like adding extra equipment, etc The armour was probably not cheap for them to make either i guess so perhaps they did re use parts as long as they could, as with traditional human armour and tecnical equipment. At least to me It would make sense if they did as well.
I've always wondered how the movie daleks go from their first colour scheme two the second in the next movie, especially what happened between. Is there a video on this? Great video anyway.
I remember seeing a Dalek for sale in Boscombe, Bournemouth in a retro furniture shop in 2007 (ish). The shop owner said it was an original TV prop. It was red, as I recall.
Interesting. I do recall a model shop in that area that had one in the window. That wasn’t a BBC prop. I would imagine the one you saw wasn’t either though as the internet would have gone loopy if one had come up. Still I will keep a look out for images of it!
Just looked through some newspaper reports about it and there was a guy who had it before the antique shop owner. There was a picture with it. And yes unfortunately, it wasn’t an original Dalek.
Hi, another great and very interesting video! For your information, I noticed on the "Footage Detectives" episode of 26/12/21 (TPTV) there is some colour home movie footage of one of the Movie Daleks at the 'Star's Gala' on May 29th 1965 as you mention. The segment occurs at around 30mins (35s) and forms part of the home movies of actor Sam Kydd. It is discussed by his son Johnathan Kydd (formerly of "Pipkins" among others). I wonder if you can identify the prop from the footage? Cheers!
Actually, I remember researching Princess Ware was owned by Maryland so there was probably only three manufacturers. I wonder if Lady Arnold was owned by Maryland or vice-a-verca.
To be honest if I was the BBC in this position, I would have created two "classes" of daleks in the story. Warriors / scientists / admin / whatever was most appropriate.
Thanks so much for another great video. I believe I entered the TV 21 competition but was not successful. I grew up on the Isle of Wight in the sixties and I am fairly sure there was a Dalek prop in thr Ventnor Winter Grdrens for a while. It may have been a scratchbuilt prop as it had been converted so a child could sit on a stool inside if I remember rightly( long long time ago).
I'm surprised there is so much information still out there about the production and even some props on their own. You would think most of these were things lost to time. Well, to be fair, 1960's are still recent, modern times. Perhaps it's just hard for a 90's born kid like me to comprehend that 60's are not far enough from us to be completely forgotten. Not even close in fact. It's sad to hear about the fate of these movie daleks. These things could sell for quite a bit these days, but I'm not sure people back then were able to predict just how long Doctor Who would stay on air and how iconic the Daleks would become.
Seeing what happened to those Daleks given out as prizes really re-enforces the idea that most people are absolute idiots.
Different times though! I'm sure it wouldn't happen today.
was Doctor Who still on TV at the time, how could any one not relies that Dalek, looking thing, looks like think from that film, and the tv shows even if they where not scfi nut, I think any who , only had passing interest tv would of seen what they where,
@@Dalek6388 Lawyer's would be salivating on the trademark IP law that they can sue everyone about.
Things which exist in the present seem unimportant to us now because they arte common. Back then, adults were firmly convinced that Dr. Who was a kids show and placed no value on the props existing "at that time." I'd say it all seems perfectly normal, unfortunate, but not unusual.
Unfortunately there the ones who would win the lottery as well.
Only Dr Who fans could show a photo of a woman in a bikini with a Dalek and talk about the Dalek. Brilliant video as usual. Shockingly thorough research. 👏👏♥️🤖
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Hehehe. You haven't seen the "Jo Grant/Katy Manning" photos, have you?
@@princeofcupspoc9073 on one hand, she was wearing absolutely nothing but boots. On the other hand, they were great looking boots.
@@Cybermat47on the other other hand, that Dalek was sexy as hell.
Because of inter galactic differences, sadly Daley’s can’t say… Phoaaaar
An even simpler answer for the production team would have been to change absolutely nothing and maybe just add a little line in the script that these were "special mission daleks" or something. You bet Terry Nation would have lapped up the chance to expand the lore and (more importantly) crank out new merchandise.
I saw Daleks in the toy department of a Manchester Department Store ( there were two competing stores, both with extensive toy departments- so it was either Lewis's or Pauldens ( later to be bought out by Debenhams).
It was probably Lewis's as they had an ambitious publicity team- as they also exhibited the TV Batmobile at a later date.
After watching your video, I have deduced they were most likely Movie Daleks I saw, as there were more than 4 of them. The time frame was mid 1960s, I was very young ( and scared of them).
I like that - ‘Special Mission Daleks’.
They would have been movie ones and we have a video on it coming up soon
@Dalek 63•88; I was wondering, do you have any plans to make episodes about stories post 1960’s? Only I was watching Resurrection of the Daleks the other day and I kept noticing that the Daleks had a weird nub on top of the dome and it’s driving me mad that there seems to be no explanation for it. Might be a small issue, possibly only worth a short, but if anyone can answer it, it’s you 😅
@@Paul_M_Bradley :P This 'feature' is touched upon on the Dalek 63-88 website for these later stories..... apparently it was a new internal 'A' frame being used to allow rotation of the dome; probably a cost-cutting measure, though why the extra 'spike' sticking out of the top was never trimmed back, I don't know..! 😉
Yes, it was a huge debacle and yes it probably drained money from the BBC, but am I glad it happened? Yes! Those props still look amazing in those colours and without it we wouldn't have movie Dalek action figures, so there's that. I now own 4 official movie Daleks and one TV varient of the same prop in my figure collection and couldn't be happier.
Drained money? They were quibbling over the cost of a new coffee table. These were not exactly "bank breaking." The BBC just had a philosophy of total frugalness, since it was a public institution, and had to justify the "value to the Britain public" for every shilling spent. Now a days a typical BBC show could build a dozen for the cost of catering for a week.
Unbelievable that three original movie Daleks were disposed of in that way. Being broken up for a go cart is bad enough, but being taken and burnt on a bonfire without the owners permission deserves extermination, or at the very least a spell in a Dalek mine!
Deserves prison time (obviously, it's theft and vandalism), but if I were the owner I think there'd be a fair few punches thrown at those responsible; broken teeth, noses, thumbs in eyes, etc.
I had no idea Parting Of The Ways used only 3 props, they hide it so well
That's funny, as a kid I remember deciding they must have only had 3 props from series 1-3 (not including Sec), then getting confused by the parting of the ways where there were more than 3 that didn't look CG.
@@JOCoStudio1 Fun fact: Dalek Sec was actually the original Dalek from 'Dalek' (Metaltron) repainted, if I recall correctly from reading Dalek 63-88.
@@azngf you know what, I had a sneaking suspicion something like that would be the case. Good reuse of props. What happened to the battle damaged one from Dalek though? Was it a separate model?
@@JOCoStudio1 Only the skirt was separate. The top half was repainted and cleaned up for use on the pristine prop. The damaged skirt ended up in various exhibitions afterwards, but I’m not quite sure where it is now.
Great production quality as always. I was cringing at the end hearing of the various fates of the daleks 😳 fascinating how little they were thought of back then...
Thank you! Yes it’s such a shame. But I guess it’s possible one or two are out there somewhere?
@@Dalek6388 Indeed! As with the missing episodes, we can only hope.
Shows the scant regard which grown-ups had, and still have, for other people's property.
Gosh that ending was a little grim, these three pieces of film and tv history just ending up casually destroyed and/or thrown out.
The bit with the daleks being needed back at short notice has been a bit of serendipity after the fact for us collectors of the 5" Character Options doctor who figures, since an exact movie style dalek technically appeared in Doctor Who, it meant we were able to get a figure of one, despite the film daleks on the whole not being within the CO licence, so that was a definite benefit. That initial movie blue dalek is my all time favourite design, so it's lovely to be able to have one in the same scale as the rest of my figures.
It’s a good job too otherwise our figures would have had to be ones without fenders!
@@aydinstone they put out one with a small TV style fender about 8 years earlier, meant to approximate the baseless one, I thought for long enough that was as close as we'd get
Technically legal, my favorite kind of legal!
@@gdeproductions1225 Just legal enough, not too legal
Imagine one of the supreme beings of the universe being repurposed as a go kart!
As Cushing's Doctor might have said "most undignified!"
That ending was so heartbreaking, how could they do that? 😱
It’s horrifying isn’t it!
Maybe a vindictive Thal in the crowd suggested the Dalek serve as "Guy Fawkes"?
That early in the history of Doctor Who they were just props. No one would have remotely guessed that the story would be ongoing nearly 60 years later and that original Daleks would gain a form of historical value.
Economics. Harsh, sad, but true.
Seeing a new upload from this channel is like finding another present behind the Xmas tree after you thought you'd unwrapped everything. Absolutely love it.
God, the bit about the fate of the prize props at the end is painful.
Another fantastic upload all, these facts and stories could so easily have been lost to time.
These videos are so fascinating and so well done . I am appalled that these Daleks ended up being destroyed, its so sad and such a loss to the history of the TV and film series. Congratulations on such an interesting video. 👏
Thank you Kenneth. We are pleased you enjoyed it!
One being turned into a go-kart and another into a guy for Guy Fawkes Night!
There’s actually a better ending - the Dalek that became a go-kart got revenge and transformed back into a Dalek and exterminated the kids that turned it into a go-kart and the one that became a guy exterminated all attendees at the fireworks display!
There's something poetic to Daleks dying pathetic deaths in real life as well as within the show
Especially in The Chase!
Another great and fascinating video! Thank you!
I can't believe they burned a flippn' Dalek on bonfire night. Oh the humanity! 😭
It did make me chuckle that they took all this care and attention to make the Daleks match (right up until the points where they didn't, of course) and yet at the time we were watching these shows on our fuzzy b&w TV's ONCE with no repeats and no VCRs. We really wouldn't have noticed! 😂
The Dalek Invasion of Cannes is a classic. The big screen adaptation, Daleks - Invasion Cannes: 1965 A.D. starring Clive Dunn, was made in-universe canon by Steven Moffat in the Target novelization of Buddy, Can You Spare Us The Paradigm
_Buddy, _*_Cannes_*_ You Spare Us the Paradigm?_ , surely? 🤣
A new episode...fantastic! I so wanted to win one of those Daleks at the time and really resented the actual winners! Lol
Ha ha, join the club ( lucky little *********S!)😄
@@angelsone-five7912 Ha ha yeah ...totally
I am really pleased you made this clear as I like "The Chase" but wondered why for so many years the background Daleks were missing their lower bumper and sat in the background! 😄
I went to that exhibition at Bingley Hall! I would have been 10 years old,.
I remember it like it was yesterday, because there was a little electric 'train' that drove kids around the Dalek 'compound', and the Dalek came up to me and touched me with its plunger arm, and I burst into tears and had to be taken off the train!
So a lasting, and slightly shameful memory for me. ;-)
These videos are consistently fascinating, high quality and so well researched. Great to see there's a deep passion for such a niche subject
Thank you very much!
I just can't believe the detail that you put into these vids. Where on earth do you find your background information? Even down to the rivet details on a particular prop? BUT - thank you for what you do, from a 68 year old who loved the Daleks (can I say that?).
Aw man, I've always been holding out hope that one of the Daleks in the crane-shot had a claw, considering you can't see the appendage in that one. That way we might've been able to get a Character Options figure with a claw version. XD Either way, super glad this shot exists due to it allowing us to get the Movie Dalek (with sucker) as a CO figure, customised one of mine to have a claw. :)
Movie Daleks are just so sleek. Within months after the films, the props were a sadly a mess. Can't believe they burnt one in a bonfire, they burnt anything in the 1960's!!
Mmm, the smell of burning fibreglass...
it was screeching incinerate incinerate you will be incinerated
Yeah I heard they burnt the Black Dalek. Imagine in the height of Dalekmania thinking " well what should we do with these then. Give them away. No. No-one would want these things! "
@@projectdalekmark Crazy isn't it?
I once knew someone who claimed to have an original movie dalek from the 65 film, maybe the missing casing mentioned here, by this point painted as the black dalek leader. This was about ten years ago, and I was much to young to have any way of authenticating it. This was in Devon, UK. I'll do some research.
Please do! If you can track it down again we’d love to know! 😀
As always, hats off to you guys for yet another fantastic video. Your content always deserves total attention as a mark of respect for the work you put into your channel.
Thank you!
Smashing episode! Also provides a nice visual to explain Character Options' The Jungles of Mechanus set. I've never actually noticed the movie Daleks in that scene until today.
I hope they included pedestal camera 5 or whichever one it was that stood in prominently on screen. Special Observation Dalek?
You've returned - I initially did not believe it, and yet the video is four days old. Welcome back.
I loved your Star Wars and Doctor Who, Dalek gunstalk video - informative and well-reasearched. This video is no different, dare I say an improvement.
I shall watch this resurgence with great interest.
Thank you! Glad you enjoy them. Make sure you check out the first in this new series too!
How do they let them get into such a state?? I'd polish and cherish a prop if I had one... Anyway - great video as always and fascinating to see what happens to these props... (Fab music too!) Looking forward to the next one :)
The fact that they cared about consistency goes to show that the team making the show genuinely cared about the show
If I were the parents of that last kid I would have sued somebody responsible for the prop's burning. They took a beloved item away from a kid and burned it. I wouldn't do that to just another promo piece but considering they stole it from a kid is just jerkish.
Aboslutely fascinating and meticulously researched - the fact that none of the 3 Daleks survived is maddening!
The movie Daleks looked so much better than the TV ones..... What a sad end...... Can't believe they would casually give them away "willy-nilly" to all and sundry..... Another fascinating video. Thanks guys X
Great research - I always wondered why those static Daleks in the chase appeared to have melted into the floor
Thank you!
Love all your videos. The ending of this one almost had me in tears. Those poor Daleks!
Thank you! Yep such a shame the props were discarded.
This story is actually really interesting. I'll definitely be watching more of your videos, a well deserved subscription.
Thank you 🙏
I actually liked the variations on the Daleks. I though they would have different features because they had different "ranks" or were upgrades. It also gave them a degree of individuality. I wouldn't have even changed the lights personally.
So happy to see these videos again.
Also would love to hear the isolated music playing in the background. Sounds awesome!
Graeme may possibly release them on his channel?
I don't know where to begin with praise regarding the level of details in this video. The bit of info on the blowtorch Dalek showed that I had missed a few interesting features in situations where 'beefing up the numbers ' was needed, but I thought I'd been told all about the Bernado Daleks, but I was wrong, there was definitely more to that story. I'm shocked to hear about the winners and their Daleks, how can you get fed up storing a Dalek, and who in their right mind puts a Dalek on a bonfire, there could be some odd kind of payback but not at the cost of upsetting the kids. Sorry for rambling, as ever 'guys', nice video and awesome work on the details. Look forward to seeing more. Take care and stay safe.
Thank you… and a full story of the Barnardo Daleks is coming up soon!
Great video as always. So Fascinating to watch. You can see so much effort that goes into the making of these. Thank you so much for creating them for us to enjoy 😉
Thank you very much Phil! We love to make them so thats really appreciated!
I love this, it feeds my hunger for Dalek knowledge
The cool thing about the photos from within Shawcraft is that it looks exactly like a fan’s garage or workshop when they start building a replica themselves. Getting the skirt to that stage with all the holes is such an iconic step in the process
It's a shame what happened to these props. If there's one movie Dalek I hope is still around, it'd be number 8 with the blowtorch.
This channel never fails to amaze me with its research. Just wonderful to know details. I wonder, recalling the poll you made a couple years back, will you be doing similar things on this channel in relation to the cybermen?
Gav does have something in line for the Cybermen at some point yes!
Thanks for the kind comments too!
This is so obsessively nerdy, I absolutely love it! Brilliant research, and great narration deserve genuine congratulations, from a fan who watched "live" the very first appearance of the Daleks on telly, as a kid.
Thank you!
Brilliant details. Thanks for your hard work.
Thank you Stuart!
So glad you're posting videos again. I remember checking this channel a month or two ago and being worried the channel was abandoned.
Real life got in the way a bit but hopefully we can be more regular now!
I am currently making a a 3 d printed model kit dalek about 1/5 scale (I have made two sevans daleks and two comet miniatures in the past) with this latest build I'm going for the red top dalek in honour of the fantastic Denys Fisher toy back in the day.
Your videos have been a real eye opener in the world of Daleks and I really appreciate your work and research, fantastic!
Thank you and good luck with the models!
Honestly I loved the Peter cushing films, the dalek invasion of earth was definitely the best
The movie Daleks are things of beauty and the TV ones should have been made to be like them! MOVIE DALEKS ARE THE SUPERIOR BEINGS
Cool episode. There are images of the movie Daleks at Blackpool North station when they went to a film distribution conference, probably at the nearby Odeon cinema. Those Daleks certainly got around 🙂
Yep! Those images will be used in another video to come!
@@Dalek6388 brilliant 🙂
Thank you so much for these great Dalek documentaries. They are really interesting and the research is impressive. You make them required viewing. I remember seeing one of the Daleks at Harrogate Dr Barnardos and remember some kids being pretty rough with it in the playground. No photos though, wish we had some to find out which it could have been.
Thank you James! We are currently working on a video on the Barnardo's Daleks and Harrogate was a town we hadn't heard connected with them before. So there is another little piece in the puzzle! You wouldn't happen to know a rough date by any chance?
@@Dalek6388 I will check with my parents and get back to you.
Hi James, we may have found a picture of the Dalek at the home near Harrogate. Do you have a way of us contacting you?
I know the memory plays tricks, but I'm sure we saw a Dalek at Pinewood Studios in the early 1970s. We were walking in Black Park and on the Pinewood Studios side of the chain link fence a Dalek was lying on its side looking quite sorry for itself and not the least bit scary. It was amongst a pile of other props just lying between the fence and the wall of an outbuilding. My mum and dad and brother all remember seeing it, but I don't know anything about how it got there!
Interesting! Maybe one of the movie versions got there somehow?
Absolutely superb work. The attention to detail and research is exemplary. SO many photos I hadn't seen before.
Thank you 🙏
Daleks and kids don't mix well, the fate of those 3 movie Daleks..
What phenomenal research! (As usual) I almost feel like you are creating a 'life' for each on screen Dalek. Will further investigation warrant fan magazines of each 'personality'. When will tabloids appear with headings like "The shocking off-screen life of Dalek 6"? Thank you for such wonderful content.
Thanks Brett, glad you enjoy them 😀
"Dalek I2 Revealed to Have Genocidal Tendencies, more at 11"
Fascinating as always! It’s such a shame to hear the fate of those props (especially the one unlucky enough to have “rotting” fibreglass…). It’s quite amusing to hear of all that effort they went to just to have the movie Dalek props sat on the stage floor without their fenders.
I still love how you can identify the exact props just from some slight discolouration or rivet alignment. I also really enjoyed how you enhanced that high shot from episode 5 to reveal the Tardis in the background. It’s amazing what can be found with a bit of sleuthing like that.
We are pleased you enjoyed it!
Excellent attention to detail well done. I recall a full size red Dalek on loan to Woodside School at Moulsecomb in Brighton around 1968/9. No idea if it was a prop or scratchbuilt but it was big and red and certainly looked 'real'. It was parked in the reception area for about a month.(although it may have been a lot less) My school friends dad; Mr Burton, was the caretaker at the school.
Thank you! Check out our 2019 season playlist. We have a couple of videos based around Terry Nation's own Dalek props. It sounds like you may have seen one of his movie props. He had a red one around that period.
Well, well, well, i had no idea!!! I've just watched your 2019 season playlist. For what its worth, Woodside school was the local special needs school in Brighton during the 60's and 70's. its long gone now. However, when I saw the Red Dalek in the Whickers world clip from 1967, it all of a sudden looked very familiar!! i've got a feeling I can confirm that it was in Brighton back then. it all makes sense!...wow!..big smile on my face now!!
Glad to have jogged some memories! Maybe a picture will crop up one day?
Those Dalek Guards in the background I thought were Dalek statues first time I watched The Chase.
As usual, utter brilliance from Dalek 6388! ❤️
Another brilliant video, featuring the young Richard Martin looking scarily like David Tennant! I do remember seeing Daleks at Bingley hall, though I can't say if they were the Barnado's Daleks. And, Like yourselves, I would so much like to see some kind of visual record to prove that the Daleks I so vaguely recall were genuine BBC Daleks. I also remember the Brainy Train, and sort of remember the Daleks shooting out their sucker sticks to strike at the train as it went by. Hope my shadowy memories are of some help. I only recently learned that William Hartnell himself went to Bingley Hall on one of the exhibition days, Though I have no idea if it was the day I went. Though I think if it were, I would certainly have remembered meeting Doctor Who!
Thank you Bill! Any grains of information are useful. Hopefully one day we will get a picture!
I've probably seen "The Chase" half a dozen times, and even though I knew there were movie Dalek props in it, I never spotted them 😂 must do a rewatch!
It's a story where Frankenstein's monster body-slams a Dalek,really it's a shock that everyone on Earth doesn't rewatch it every day!
@@Faction.Paradox 😂 Yeah! I don't mind the story, I think it gets a bit of a bad reputation rather unfairly. It certainly has its faults but the general idea of the story was quite good and took the series into a direction it hadn't been before.
I really must take more notice of the mechanus jungle scenes next time I watch!
Multiple press adverts for the Midlands Boys & Girls Exhibition certainly do have "THE DALEKS" prominently headlining, and it running to 24 April would certainly tie in with them being available from 27 April onwards.
I used to live in Handforth, a video about Daleks is the last place I expected to hear the name of a town I grew up in XD
Hearing about what happened to the Film Daleks at the end was Miserable...
Absolutely fascinating. Amazing and really kinda sad to find out what happened to those competition Daleks.
Glad to see you guys are back! Love watching these and some of these didn't know we're a thing especially the props
6:27 is one of my Amtec casts I had made from the amber Canada set with jug (actuallyis that the one I sent JK). I belive there were never any red or blue moulded beakers. I believe they we're all hand painted clear beakers. Notice the different shade of red from the first film to the second. multiple second film drone props also have subtle differences in the shade of blue paint. maby they were running out of glass paint and had to thin it out...
Thanks for the info Mark! 😀
im so glad you uploaded! i cant even tell you how happy i am right now!
We are pleased you enjoy them!
I’m so happy to these videos return really teaches me about clever ways to solve production problems
Fantastic to see a new video! Cheers guys, always a joy.
Glad you enjoyed it!
those props getting the axe there at the end is down right heart breaking. to think all of those incredible bits of who history were lost in such horrific ways. the go kart hurts the worst. didnt even get a funny death like the bonfire dalek poor thing.
Thanks for all the in depth research, even the sad endings!
We are pleased you enjoyed it!
Great video.....I remember 'Forbidden Planet' sci fi store, in London, used to have a Dalek prop on display.....this was mid 80's so before cosplay became the industry we have now.....so I can only assume it must have been screen used.
It didn't relocate with the store, sadly 🤔
As far as I know they still have that Dalek in one of their outlets. They suggest its screen used but its clear that not all of it is. The skirt section isn't for sure. There may be a chance that some of it is, but without closer inspection we can't be sure.
Wow ..thanks, I always wondered.... I haven't seen it in the London store.
Keep up the great work 👍👍👍👍
Atleast the B&M Chase set and the Jungles of Mechanus set made these borrowed props known
I refer to the Movie Ones as the 'Chase Guard Daleks' thier designation is they guard the Daleks time capsule from any intruders. In my AU story, Wrath of the Gods, they get a lot more screen time and are going to speak. The reason they don't have slats like thier brethin/sisterin is that I've got around this loophole by having them be that they are experimental units while the Daleks were working on how to power themselves from Skaro's sun. I have one in MIB, I'm trying to get two second hand ones, don't care if they'd knocked about or scratched as that's accurate to the props, right?
Fantastic stuff as always! Wonderful research and presentation. Thank you!
Thank you!
I really enjoyed that post Gavin! Excellent!!
I can understand why Shawcraft didn’t want all want the Props hanging around for any length of time…there is hardly any room in their front yard! You do realise that the building is still there? (but without front wall & gate) I’ve been past there a few times to “take it all in”, anyway, keep up the good work
chaps.
Thanks Craig! Yes I nearly managed to make a trip to the Shawcraft unit a couple of years back but in the end I couldn’t make it. 😟 (Jon)
I remember that copies of the film Daleks were made for funfair rides, that you could sit inside. They were very good and full size. I saw one in Southport about 1966.
The Chase is my absolute favourite Classic Who story and its so gratifying that i can learn so much more about it through you guys. I'm amazed how many videos there are based around this one serial.
It’s a story with so much mileage!
That was extremely interesting. I've watched pretty much every episode of Dr.Who from episode 1 onward. It's a real shame so many of the early episodes are missing. I would gladly watch them again. Yeah, I'm an old nerd.
Ironically “The unavailability of Dr Baranado’s Daleks” sounds like a sci-fi serial
Another really enjoyable and informative episode. More please!
There’s a Dalek in Eastbourne, always outside a shop in Grove Road, it’s been painted white and pink for some reason but it’s been there years, it’s quite old, never know… it could have been a bbc Dalek, possibly a Bernardo Dalek
If it’s the Comic Book store then unfortunately, it’s just a fan built Dalek and not an original.
Another stunningly engaging video, guys. I thoroughly enjoyed this, and look forward to more content
Thank you!
I don't have any problem with the props given away having fallen by the wayside. The first and second had truly proper ends for a film/television prop.. they brought joy and fun, and especially the second, found a second life through it's parts being reused for more fun. The first meeting a less proper end, but no less dignified, having been fondly remembered and probably left gathering dust and mice until the storing people decided it needed to go. The last one however, makes me sad. Obviously enjoyed both by the child and his family.. to have it torn away and burned by pranksters. That just sucks.
Fascinating!
Daleks in Birmingham? Notify the authorities at once !
Thank's for uploading!
Perhaps the Dalkes had similar problems and improved and added things to their armours when they needed to for various reasons, like adding extra equipment, etc The armour was probably not cheap for them to make either i guess so perhaps they did re use parts as long as they could, as with traditional human armour and tecnical equipment. At least to me It would make sense if they did as well.
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Great informative upload. Many thanks Dalek 63.88
Glad you enjoyed!
I've always wondered how the movie daleks go from their first colour scheme two the second in the next movie, especially what happened between. Is there a video on this?
Great video anyway.
We will be doing another video on all the first movie Daleks soon. Plus one on the second movie Daleks at some point in the future
@@Dalek6388 Great, look forward to it and all dalek videos!
I remember seeing a Dalek for sale in Boscombe, Bournemouth in a retro furniture shop in 2007 (ish). The shop owner said it was an original TV prop. It was red, as I recall.
Interesting. I do recall a model shop in that area that had one in the window. That wasn’t a BBC prop.
I would imagine the one you saw wasn’t either though as the internet would have gone loopy if one had come up. Still I will keep a look out for images of it!
Just looked through some newspaper reports about it and there was a guy who had it before the antique shop owner. There was a picture with it. And yes unfortunately, it wasn’t an original Dalek.
I really enjoyed that video. So well researched. It's so sad what happened to some props.
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi, another great and very interesting video!
For your information, I noticed on the "Footage Detectives" episode of 26/12/21 (TPTV) there is some colour home movie footage of one of the Movie Daleks at the 'Star's Gala' on May 29th 1965 as you mention.
The segment occurs at around 30mins (35s) and forms part of the home movies of actor Sam Kydd. It is discussed by his son Johnathan Kydd (formerly of "Pipkins" among others).
I wonder if you can identify the prop from the footage?
Cheers!
Thanks Steve, we have been made aware of that footage and we may use it in a future video. Thank you for thinking of us though! 😀
BRAVO! Love your sarkey dry wit and worrying levels of attention to detail! ; ) MORE!!
More to come!
@@Dalek6388 Really hope you do one about the production / types of mutants inside the casings... they're quite varied and intruiging.
It's funny to think that, had it not been for this messy production, we may not have gotten those movie Dalek figures last year.
Actually, I remember researching Princess Ware was owned by Maryland so there was probably only three manufacturers. I wonder if Lady Arnold was owned by Maryland or vice-a-verca.
These videos are incredible.
Thank you!
To be honest if I was the BBC in this position, I would have created two "classes" of daleks in the story. Warriors / scientists / admin / whatever was most appropriate.
Thanks so much for another great video. I believe I entered the TV 21 competition but was not successful. I grew up on the Isle of Wight in the sixties and I am fairly sure there was a Dalek prop in thr Ventnor Winter Grdrens for a while. It may have been a scratchbuilt prop as it had been converted so a child could sit on a stool inside if I remember rightly( long long time ago).
Glad you enjoyed it! The props did get about a bit so it’s possible one made it’s way to the Isle of Wight.
I'm surprised there is so much information still out there about the production and even some props on their own. You would think most of these were things lost to time. Well, to be fair, 1960's are still recent, modern times. Perhaps it's just hard for a 90's born kid like me to comprehend that 60's are not far enough from us to be completely forgotten. Not even close in fact.
It's sad to hear about the fate of these movie daleks. These things could sell for quite a bit these days, but I'm not sure people back then were able to predict just how long Doctor Who would stay on air and how iconic the Daleks would become.
Sad really I wish I had one ! Fantastic information and series
Thank you! 🙏