To be fair to Dracula having a niece, maybe she's a great niece. He did used to be a human of House Cronqvist before he became Dracula, so maybe she's a distant descendant of the Cronqvist line he particularly liked, and decided to turn. Likewise, Carmilla did have a humanoid form before Lords of Shadow and the Netflix show, she had one in Circle of the Moon.
I feel the perfect Devs for this would be Soul Calibur devs, perhaps a fun crossover with Bandai Namco. I mean Nightmare/Siegfried would be the perfect Guest character(s) for both the Light & Night sides.
@@StickBreightley certainly hasn’t felt like that Also I thought that “Let’s make a sequel” replaced it, given how we got two episodes of it in the 3 months without Build the Roster
@@daleketchup7434 The problem with Castlevania is that Konami tried to bring it to 3d and it kinda doesn't work. The other problem is that Konami doesn't believe that 2d games can sell well unless their on mobile devices.
There's something kinda adorably hilarious about Cornell asking Alucard if he can match the speed of a wolf, considering Alucard can literally turn into a wolf equipped with a knock off Metroid speed booster
27:44 If I understand correctly, "Elizabeth Bartley, niece of Dracula" is an invention of localizers. In Japanese version she is who she is obviously supposed to be, Elizabeth Bathory, the Blood Countess, the serial killer noble from Transylvania. She is infamous for bathing in blood of maidens believing that it will prolong her youth... which most people now agree she never did and it was a later invention. To my knowledge there is no traceable blood relation between her and historic Vlad III/Tepes/Dracula, though one of the members of her family did lead a military campaign together with Vlad, but he wasn't Elizabeth's ancestor. In short, she is not Dracula's niece. Kid Dracula wouldn't exactly be too weird. If the story of this hypothetical Castlevania Judgement 2 continues from the previous one, then he actually could be written in fairly organically. The main boss of Judgement, Time Reaper, works for Galamoth who started out as the main villain of Kid Dracula. So if Judgement 2 revolves around another Galamoth plot then Kid Dracula would have a good reason to be involved.
Yeah. My main argument against Kid Dracula as described is because of the dichotomy of the warriors of Light and Night, and Kid Dracula would TECHNICALLY be a Warrior of Light in this case since he was the hero of that game against Galamoth. I would honestly replace KD WITH Galamoth instead as a Playable Final Boss.
There is also the fact that in both the Anime and the games it was states that Dracula was ACTIVELY FLEEEING from Leon. So imagine an older, wiser Dracula meeting the friend he betrayed hundreds of years ago, the man who LITTERALLY paved the road to Dracula's rebirth. I also like the idea of a Leon who comments on the actions his descendants made as he watched from beyond. Maybe even remark how he wished a spelll like Charlotte's Sanctuary was around to save Sarah.
Thorgi in his aria of the night video: "I'm not going to spoil the big secret ending" Thorgi two days later: Spoils the big secret ending (For Aria of the night) Whoops XD
One thing that's surprising, but makes sense the more I thought about it is that the roster is kind of zoner heavy. It makes sense considering how many characters have access to long ranged attacks (especially bosses). Also disappointed that there's no mention of Shaft
I would kind of want Slogra and Gaibon as a duo characters. Maybe Gaibon could ride on Slogra's back and even lift him around when he's not flying around to attack on his own.
Castlevania Judgement was based. Probably not technically good, but based. I think Miriam from Bloodstained would make for a fun DLC Cameo character, though she runs the risk of potentially feeling a bit samey when Shanoa is already in the game. Zangetsu would probably feel more unique.
Unfortunately, that likely wouldn't happen. Konami has a very... unique policy when it comes to former employees, i.e. they are dead to them. Koji Igarashi basically made Bloodstained as a big "That that!" to Konami, not just in premise, but also in details--names of dead victims being from past Castlevania games, one optional boss being *very* reminiscent of a Belmont, and another such boss being a literal shot machine. And that's before you remember Zangetsu is voiced by David Hayter, aka Solid Snake back when the Metal Gear games were still under Hideo Kojima's control (and the less said there, the better).
I'd have no issue with a third of the roster having access to a whip, just as long as the whip is used in wildly different ways for each character. There's a lot of different styles and moves using a whip that can be spread out to the different belmonts
I can't imagine how uncomfortable it would be to fight wearing clothing like that... Like look at Simon, he's practically wearing a metal ribcage on the outside, and with all that skin showing...he'll have cuts and bruises all over himself.
DLC: Pyramid Head, Red Sonja, Vampirella and the "Splatterhouse" hero. Request: how would you make "Star Wars: Masters of Teras Kasi" ...well...excellent as a remake, please?
I have a good suggestion for building a fighting game, Dungeons and Dragons. I'd imagine their be a story mode that brings in classic and loved characters across the franchise, like Drizzt Do'Urden, Tasha, Strahd, Minsc and Boo, Raistlin Majere, Lady of Pain, Someone from the Magic setting, Maybe someone from Critical Roll? There are a lot of settings and worlds and characters to draw from, the fun part is finding the right mix of races and classes and franchise representation in the roster. I can also see this having a nice character creation mode. I see this working best as a 3v3 fighter with a forth support character that add a effect like with Persona 5 Area what if.
@@mdalsted Think a lot of old extra DnD media was like that back then, Like I think the Mystara Capcom Beat Ups had original characters and those are considered classics. then there was that animated series, and pretty sure most of the old comics did their own thing as well. Oh and those live action movies.
Build the Roster: Evil Zone 2. The first game came out on the Playstation back in 1999 and was basically different protagonists from what seem to be representing different anime/manga genres and sub-genres coming togethor to fight off an evil presence that brought them all togethor. Horror, martial arts, fantasy, magical girl, tokasatsu, almost had one character per genre. With anime and manga being more popular than ever before and games having more characters selectable than years ago, I think we can add more caricatures and archetypes such as male and female love interest from a romance, knowledge hungry inventor from a steampunk, the hard working prodigy from sports, the isekai human turned into a monster or creature of some kind, you could even somehow add in the parody character or two that are out of Panty and Stocking as an example. Stages would be more detailed and fit with each and every genre and sub genre as well as the music for the stages like fighting in a school yard and class room or the magical girls kingdom. They all had rivals as well, each and every one of them, so it would be funny to see others like how a sports character talks to a horror villain or a steampunk inventor talks to to either the male or female live rival. So while you wouldn't be picking out a character persay, you would be picking out the archetype and caricature to represent the genre and subgenre they come from.
This is gonna be THE anime crossover, no more sticking to Shonen Jump. We could have Lucy from Elfen Lied fight Alucard from Hellsing, if that game gets a sequel I hope we can see that
@@mirzapramudya1580 While that would be awesome, something like that would be a bit more complicated as no one studio has as many familiar characters as Shonen Jump or Tastunoko does. This is why the game has to stick to the caricature and archetype, otherwise it would be a copyright and trademark nightmare to keep the game up online, especially if their from different companies.
@@mirzapramudya1580 ... what? No, evil zone is literally the tropes personafide. Don't know where you're getting anime crossover. Also yes I know this comment is 6 months old but that's how long it took for me to watch this and see your reply.
Evil Zone, oh hell yeah. I am ALWAYS surprised when others know that game. I used to pass this game on to my friends just to let them get good at this, because nobody could beat me in this game.
Honestly it would've been cool if someone like Kentaro Miura would've done the redesigns for the characters a lot of his character design would go hand in hand with Castlevania's but sadly that'll never happen
Great picks, I wonder what the game would be like if they could go crazy with adding Belmonts? Seeing how many there are, it feels like they could fill up an entire roster with just them 😂
43:55 (spoilers for lords of shadow) Dracula&Gabriel: *arguing* Soma: Can I have a bagel? Dracula&Gabriel: *arguing intensifies* Soma: Can I PLEASE have a bagel!
I love this roster, I’m just slightly sad that Eric is off it. Btw, Kid Dracula is legit Alucard. The final boss from Kid Dracula shows up in SotN. It’s hilarious.
As sad as I am as well, I would rather him be off it than get the version we had before. That said, if he was back and had his design from Portrait of Ruin, I would be SUPER down.
It would be awesome but I think the closest we would probably get would be Zephyr from Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow with his time stop and knives. Though Aeon could fill the same role. Closest we could probably get for Jonathan would be with guest characters would likely be Django from Boktai, a lesser known Konami property from the GBA who crossed over with Mega Man Battle Network, staring a Vampire Hunter who uses the power of the sun himself with his solar powered gun.
Kinda sad to not see Aeon back, considering I think he's a pretty cool character and that he was the one who brought the cast of Judgement 1 together in the first place. I also feel like the Aria of Sorrow has a bit too much representation? Counting your DLC picks, it's got 4 characters, which is a lot of a 16 to 20 character roster. I'd probably cut out Graham, personally. Other then that, I like most of this roster. Good work as always, Thorgi.
Officially "The creature" and "fleaman" but yeah the basis is pretty obvious. I know I'm um actuallying on a comment 2 years old, but given that those characters are in the public domain it is a conscious choice
I have a request for an episode of either build the roster, or let’s make a sequel (in this case a new game) Mega Man Clash: a platform fighting game based on the mega man franchise, that would act as a crossover between all of the different mega man series!
I loved this idea so much I made my own roster for it: Mega Man Proto Man Bass Duo Roll Elec Man Guts Man X Zero Axl Sigma Aile Mega Man Volnutt Tron Bonne MegaMan.EXE Harp Note
There are so many characters in the franchise that aren’t the “robot master” of that game, that the roster could be absolutely massive. I made a 40 character roster out of just main characters
I would honestly buy this. Also in terms of other characters, maybe Mathias Cronqvist & Sonia Belmont just so we can see the potential Mathias has as well as just bringing back Sonia
If you wanted to get wacky with the legal issues, then a DLC season of the Bloodstained cast would be pretty slick. Miriam, Zangetsu, Dominique and Alfred would be a solid four.
@@mirzapramudya1580 Exactly. And that's the problem. Konami's policy is that one you stop working at Konami, you are dead to them. There's a reason (actually several reasons) people used the hashtag F*Konami.
...small thing, but no mention of Carmilla's human form in Circle of the Moon? It may not be considered canon, but I'm pretty sure it was the first time she was actually depicted that way (or at least played more of a hand in the story than as just another recurring boss). And her design's a lot better in CotM than it was in Judgment. And speaking of Circle of the Moon, Nathan Graves is 100% the character I'd want to see in a hypothetical Judgment 2 (even if there's almost zero chance of it happening). Sure he fights with a whip, same as the Belmonts, but I think the CotM card-based magic system could be incorporated into his moveset in such a way to make him stand out against the other protagonists.
I was also honestly thinking of Nathan as my more out-there pick. Which of his specific card combos would you put in as his moves? A large part of me wants to see Nathan whip out the gun from one of his combos
Shanoa, Charlotte and Soma are so badass! But what about these? Light Nathan Graves Carrie Fernandez Stella Lecarde Night Student Witch Maid Persephone Frozen Shade
Here's an idea I've toyed with time and again: A RWBY fighting game. BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle already showed how the main characters and Neo would work. So how could the concept be made into a full game?
I was always under the impression that Golem was actually Balore but they couldn't keep the trademark on his name for some reason. Side note, I could totally see the final boss of the second game being Galamoth, pulling a "Fine, I'll do it myself" after the defeat of Time Reaper.
I absolutely love this! Castlevania lore is something I legitimately started learning about last year so hearing an entire video going over many characters especially Soma and Gabriel is amazing to me.
I really like that base roster, but I'm not so sure about the DLC picks. No offense, of course. Personally, as someone who has never played Castlevania but enjoys the concept: Julius Belmont (I do agree on this one), Grant Danasty, Stella Lecarde, Galamoth
I love you for picking Kid Dracula. Also, Simon Belmont from Captain N???? That show had an entire castlevania episode and their version of Alucard was WILD.
Here are two interesting ideas for characters: Shaft from Rondo of Blood with the four classic Castlevania bosses as summons and Pyramid Head from Silent Hill
So, if Konami decides to make a good castlevania fighting game and they put in Trevor, what are the chances they give him the same voice as the one from the Netflix series, complete with swears?
For a future instalment of Build the Roster, you should build the roster for a Danganronpa fighting game. Spike Chunsoft has recently been making tons of new stuff for the series and the creator, Kazutaka Kodaka, has said that he was interested in making a fighting game in the future for Danganronpa.
I was genuinely afraid when you said only 8 Heroes that Soma would fall by the Wayside. I'm glad my fears were unfounded. And I love that you gave Charlotte some thought. I liked using her far more than Jonathan in PoR, even though facets of the game seemed geared to make you focus on him and leave her aside.
Wow lots of cuts. I would have kept Cornell, Grant, Eric Lecarde, & Aeon. As for additions I would have included Hector and Isaac because it would be weird having one but not the other. Also Sonia Belmont to make up for Resurrection's cancellation.
The premise of Judgement is great....its execution was ....well it was written in the book the artist is responsible for the art for. Also I think Aeon could be in the base roster as he's technically his own faction
If there's one thing I've learned from playing fighting games it's that you can make anything work as a character with enough work & creativity. So I'd say keep Balore this huge monster & work around it. Make it so he can't move, but has a long range unblockable grab to force the opponent in close. And to keep with his hulking monstrosity vibe, he wouldn't have hit stun, but he'd be kinda slow & you could attack either his arms or body to do damage.
For those that saw this earlier,Kid Dracula is from the game of the same name that only appeared in Japan for the Famicom system. You can get a chance to play the game and learn of the character,plus where he fits in the Castlevania timeline,by buying the Castlevania Collection game because Kid Dracula appears in there.
I honestly think that instead of Carmilla, one could have Blackmore from OoE instead as he has a more interesting moveset to work with, manipulating his shadows to attack for him like a Puppet Character and zoning with his Dark Fireballs would separate himself from the rest. Though with Carmilla, I do think adding in her partner, Laura in some assists would be more beneficial to her as those two mostly work as a team. Either to drain enemy meter or rush in to deal damage.
Honestly great list of characters but here me out for a few more DLC character ideas I have like 4 of my own and I think you might like them. Though 2 of them are more of an unlikely surprise that would be welcome. *LIGHT* _Kokoro Belmont_ I know this sounds like a fake Belmont but she's real and from Otomedius Excellent, a spin off of the Gradius series. She would likely be the Kid Dracula of the warriors of light side. I imagine her playstyle being similar to the Belmonts but for the sake of giving her something unique she rides in her modified Stavros Riding Viper and be a high speed zoner. I don't know how to make a ship work in a fighting game but you could do something similar to Tails is Sonic Adventure 2 and turn the ship into a mech with it's beam whip and such. Plus I can imagine a Super where she uses her Platonic Break, "Lightning Sword" a cross-shaped beam that looks to be a modified version of the Grand Cross. _Solar Boy Django_ This one would be a guest character. Being the main protagonist and a different vampire hunter from another Konami series, "Boktai" Django has equipped a few weapons over the course of his adventures but we'll be going with his iconic main weapon and only weapon from the first game, the Gun Del Sol. Being a solar powered gun, it fires ball of solar energy for his main attack, with it's EX changing to a short range wave in front of him that rapidly drains HP from enemies. He will also be given his Solar Sword from Boktai 2 for the sake of close quarters combat. For Special Attacks, he doesn't do much on his own so I think we could have him tap into his other weapons or even use the powers of his Dark Trance if we wanted to. Speaking of Supers he got a few obvious ones such as his Pile Drivers, a device used to purify Immortals, as he summons Master Otenko to use them. A nice touch could be that if used on Warriors of the Night they are greatly weakened for the rest of the battle. Though this Super can only be used once and deals subpar damage to make up for it. He also has another super in the form of his Sol Trance form from the Japan only Boktai 3 by fusing with Master Otenko. With it he temporary becomes much stronger for a short period of time at the cost of draining the Super meter. He also replaces his Dark Trance abilities with the ability to fire off blasts of sunlight and such. Perhaps having unlimited super meter for the duration of the form but can't use any other supers? *NIGHT* _Aeon_ Despite not being a villian, he was on the warriors of the night side in Judgment. But still I'm surprised you didn't bring him up considering he's supposed to be a major player in the events of the first game and arguebly the best part of it. I imagine his moveset being similar but reworked to be better balanced. Perhaps with a few new moves to make him feel a bit more refreshed. He also NEEDS to have new lines for his Super, "Requiem of the 13th Hour" flaunting the power he has over time or providing words of wisdom. And with these faces I can think of a few while changing things up to better fit the reworked returning faces. Such as... Richter: "You may have made your mark in history, but every mark fades in time." Soma: "Despite everything you still continue to defy fate as the dark lord. You have truly earned your era of peace, reincarnation of Dracula." Django: "Even the power of the sun can not complete with the power of time young hero of another world." _Dark Boy Sabata_ Being the rival of Django from the Boktai series if Django was to join, someone from his series has to join the side of the night to balance things out and why not his older twin brother Sabata. While it's also bending the rules considering that even though he is associated with the dark, the Dark Boy isn't really a villain. Even going as far as to save Django's life on numerous occasions. I imagine him fighting similar to the Solar Boy only with an altered moveset to better fit the Dark Boy. Starting with his Gun Del Hell, the dark counterpart to the Gun De Sol it would work as a slower but stronger variation of it firing Dark Matter. For the sake of giving him a close range weapon he could use the Sword of Darkness, while he never uses it in the games his brother Django has and considering it's the dark counterpart to the Solar Sword it would only be fitting. Though while Django doesn't have much good in the way of potential special attacks besides his Gun De Solar outside of either Dark Trance abilities and other weapons. Sabata has some already existing options, like his Dark Warp teleport or Zero Shift to teleport a shirt distance and bypass enemies. He's also got Ice Spear and Fire Ball to summon several icicles and conjures an icy mist and conjure several explosive fireballs respectively. As for his possible Supers, he has Black Sun which allows him to block out the sun, or any other forms of light, for a short period and Black Hole has him use the Gun De Hell to create a black hole capable of sucking in energy projectiles and enemies to trap them. Side note was considering The Count of Groundsoaking Blood, over Sabata but I think the latter is more interesting playstyle wise and the count is too similar to Dracula anyway. While I imagine Django and Sabata would be incredibly unlikely and more of pipe dream guest characters I imagine many would be excited to see them again.
This is what I would do for the roster (though your roster was great! This is hypothetical after all!) Warriors of light Aeon- he’s like the mascot you can’t leave him out Simon- duh Alucard- duh again Shanoah- great rep. For the ds games Cornell- werewolf’s are awesome and he is a good n64 rep Soma- good gba rep. and a fan favorite Maria- I guess she can rep. for the tg16 Leon- he is underrated and we need a ps2 rep. (Hector could work too) Warriors of night Dracula- duh Death- duh again Elizabeth- she is also underrated and can rep. For SEGA genesis St. Germain- he is more of an anti hero and death hates him but I feel he would have great interactions with the cast( especially aeon) Issac- he’s a cool character who’s game appearance needs more representation (I love his portrayal in curse of darkness though I like the show version as well) Ortega- yeah completely agree with you on this one Knight armor- iconic enemies for the games with so many different appearances Carmila- she kinda needs to be here, so yeah DLC (I would love to have 3rd parties like Nightmare or demitri but I’ll stick to 1st parties) Eric- I would love too see him appear before he becomes wind Gabrielle- never crossed my mind but I love it Any Belmont/spell caster hero- just, sure Pyramid head or psycho mantis- I feel some other representation would be good and these guys could fit.
Sonia as a secret fight; she's bassicly an hybrid of the 3 Belmonts of the base roster but she mostly uses her mystical powers. I also mainly do that for the Trevor's interactions.
I have two ideas for a Build the Roster episode right here. 1: A sequel to Dissidia NT on the PS5 incorporating guest characters and including the Final Fantasy spinoffs 2: A Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm-like crossover game with a lot of characters from Shonen Jump to the Dengeki Bunko PS3 fighting game... I mainly made this because I mainly wanted to be my best girl of choice (Asuna by the way...) in a 3D arena fighter
Love the Build a Roster videos!! Would love to see how you'd do this for Soul Calibur, Samurai Shodown, Killer Instinct, Bloody Roar/Beastorizer, Jump Force, and Terrordrome: Rise of the Legends (especially since there's so many legendary monsters from around the world and urban legends to pull from!!).
So I'm not disappointed with the Aria/Dawn of sorrow representation here, but I will say I was hoping you'd save one of your weird, niche picks for Hammer. Just have him throwing around weapons and items that he picked up from the castle, maybe some actual military hardware.
I scrolled down pretty far and didn't see this name, Nathan Graves. Despite being a wielder of the whip, he did NOT feel like a Belmont(Considering he wasnt), and i think his play style with his card abilities would have been awesome. Change up his cards during battle and his moveset would change, and it would be awesome for chain attacks.
"if you never played any of the games I'm surprised you got this far thank you for watching" you are welcome. I may not have played any of the games but I did in fact buy them... I just have a very hard time actually playing the games that I buy and I enjoyed the anime and Smash. This definitely is good learning about the characters.
I know this video is over a year old now and you've probably played Dawn of Sorrow by now and also just know more about Julius in general, but to rattle off some more reasons that he's peak Belmondo besides permanently killing Dracula: -All of his appearances that we've seen firsthand are while he's in his 50s, yet he still appears as the most powerful character in both games, including over Alucard, and was likely even more ridiculous in his prime -During his boss fight in Aria of Sorrow, you can see the castle literally falling apart in the background just from him charging up Grand Cross, before he even unleashes it, and this is directly followed by Soma asking why he's been holding back during their fight -Soma completely trusts him to come kill him again if he loses control to Dracula's soul, and if you get the bad ending in either Sorrow game Julius does exactly that -In Dawn of Sorrow, you have to fulfill the early DS touchscreen gimmick quota by drawing Magic Seals every time you finish off a boss to actually get rid of it, or else it will regenerate endlessly. Late in the game, you come across Julius and Soma asks how he's getting around the castle, to which Julius replies that he just kinda obliterates bosses so thoroughly that they can't regenerate fast enough, shocking Soma who thinks that shouldn't even be possible to do -At the end of the game, there is a barrier to basically Hell that nobody can get through, so Julius decides to just blow it open with a Grand Cross. This serves as an excuse to sideline him so Soma can be the one to go finish things but a wild feat to top off his run through the castle Honestly you could just go with the fact that Alucard scales above Richter who is the other strongest Belmont and that already says enough about Julius, but his feats are fun to think about
While I totally get not wanting too many Belmonts... Juste is my favourite and would be a great zoner option with his subweapon spells. He's not as iconic, but he'd have so much potential move wise, and hey, games like this can bring forgotten characters to the public eye! He's also the main Non-Julius contender for Strongest Belmont, because he's a Belmont AND a Belnades. Vampire killer AND magical bloodline.
I'd add just one more Belmont to the list, Julius. Speaking just in terms of the story for Castlevania, he was the final Belmont to face Dracula, and the one to put down the vampire king for good. In respect to adding another hero, let's add Walter Bernhard to the roster as well. He was, after all, the vampire whose soul was used to create Dracula after the events of Lament of Innocence. I think they make a fitting pair to add together, the first vampire hunted and slain by clan Belmont and the final hunter of that same clan, the beginning and the end.
Idea for charlotte She can call Jonathan for some of her moves, maybe like a puppet fighter, that combines some slow spells and pressure with Jonathan (wich can use MORE than just whips, contrary to what the video says, he can use shortswords, greatswords, spears, hammers and can also punch very fast, he can throw daggers, grenades, the bible, axes, can do martial arts, etc)
The added roster : Soma, Jonathan, Charlotte, Leon, Joachim, Albus, Stella, Loretta, Julius For storyline, maybe more focusing on Leon and Soma since they're kinda a foil and mirror of each other; the first Belmont who is the beginning of all, and reincarnated Dracula, the starting of a new leaf of redemption.
Huh , Castlevania had a fighting game Well this would be interesting but I know like nothing about Castlevania outside of Simon , Richter, Alucard Also Dracula beats Ganondorf in Death Battle so there is that
Now this seems like a pretty reasonable roster, given how Konami is. Here are some suggestions for a 'Build the Roster/Sequel': -Power Stone 3; -Kingdom Hearts Versus XIII; -Sonic the Fighters 2; -Shaman King of Fighters; -Yu Yu Hakushodown; -Digimon Rumble Arena 4; -Medabots Robattle; -Fate/unlimited codes 2; -Capcom VS Osamu Tezuka Characters; -Capcom All Stars Versus; -Marvel Super Heroes 2; -Space Jam 3-on-3; -One Piece Battlers.
This is a great roster, and it does feature some no-brainer picks in both the obvious choices and some very obscure characters mixed in. However, since this is Konami we're talking about, I don't think they'd be one to stop at four DLC characters. Trust me, they can still pull the "fanservice" card to get about 50 characters in there. But I'm not going to do that, as I also want to remain hopeful. So, instead, I'll list off some characters that sound most befitting for the DLC lineup: Round #1: The First Terminator Theme: Characters that missed the boat when jumping from the first Judgement game to this one. Fighter #1: Aeon(Castlevania Judgement) Artstyle aside, I'm surprised that the one character that was created specifically for Judgement 1 completely missed the second game. As such, he should be the first of these veteran newcomers to get the callback. Fighter #2: Cornell(Legacy of Darkness) Since we have a few pairs of characters of a hero and a villain from the same game, Cornell should duke it out against Ortega in this game. Enough said. Fighter #3: Golem(Haunted Castle) Show of hands, aside from Kid Dracula himself, who the heck is memorable enough to be part of the Castlevania universe? The only other guy who could potentially do so is Golem. So, that means that he has another reason to return. Fighter #4: Grant Danasty(Dracula's Curse) Screw it, let's go all the way on the newcomers. It's not like there are that many who missed their chances to begin with for this dream roster. Fighter #5: Eric Lecarde(Bloodlines) The only reason why this round has five fighters is to get all the original reps in the new Judgement title, even if more DLC has to be made to get them in. From here on out, the packs will have four characters in it, like the DLC picks you chose. On a sidenote, I called this round "The First Terminator" because that movie's first sequel was called...Judgement Day. I had to give it that sort of title to entice people. Round #2: The New Class Theme: Characters who are new to the Judgement series, yet still have an important enough legacy on their own. Fighter #1: Hector(Curse of Darkness) Remember what I said about Cornell? The same can be said about this guy against Isaac, end of discussion. Fighter #2: Christopher Belmont(Belmont's Revenge) This guy is the protagonist of one of the lesser-known games in the Castlevania franchise, yet he's also a protagonist in that game, so he should be in this. Fighter #3: Nathan Graves(Circle of the Moon) We have more than enough Belmonts in this list, and the Morris family isn't really worthy of the Vampire Killer, so let's just get Nathan Graves as a compromise to both points. Fighter #4: Satan(Lords of Shadow) If we already have Dracula and Death in this game, and if the other bosses are too unnecessary for this slot, why not get the literal Prince of Darkness? Seriously, he makes those two look like chumps. Now, for this final pass, I'm actually going to include guest fighters, but only those who would feel at home in the Castlevania franchise. Well, except for one of these, but we'll get to him later. Round #3: Any Volunteers? Fighter #1: Miriam(Bloodstained) True to my word, the guest fighters have to fit in the world of Castlevania to quality for this. And considering how Bloodstained was created by an ex-Konami employee, has an 8-bit style and a dark overtone, AND has a rather familiar female Indie character, I have to put her first on this list. Fighter #2: Dimitri Maxinoff(Darkstalkers) You guys might be wondering why Morrigan isn't the Darkstalkers rep? Well, she's been exposed numerous times in the Capcom Vs. games, no pun intended, including a variation of Satan and a boss who once fought while buck naked would have already raised the rating considerably, and Morrigan's not the main character here. Dimitri is. That, and Miriam might also fill the girl quota here better than Morrigan would. Fighter #3: Buffy the Vampire Slayer Confession time! I really wanted to include Bella Swan in this, just to see people seethe in anger at the resurgence of the Twilight fandom. However, since Buffy almost got into Mortal Kombat, she was more than deserving of a slot. Speaking of which, has anyone found a pattern to this round? Female, male, female, male. Well, not only is the last rep in this game a male, but he's also why I added that disclaimer at the beginning. Fighter #4: Count Duckula Yes, you're not fooling your eyes. I really just put that British vampire duck in the game. In a similar manner to Satan, this avian makes Kid Dracula look like an everyday Castlevania protagonist. At least that guy resembles a human! Which is exactly he's the one exception to this gang of guests. I mean, when you look at his credentials, he kinda fits the idea of "that era when the classic monsters were for children". Plus, he has ties to both the macabre and the Nickelodeon channel that would make Nosferatu cry in shame. And that's my list. Confused? Angry? In a laughing fit? Tell me your thoughts on this new gaggle of representatives.
Carmilla had a pretty significant role in Symphony of the Night as well, iirc. She was the vampire/succubus who trapped Alucard in a dreamscape to relive the night of his mother's death. She also appeared in a similar form though less narratively important in Lament of Innocence. My point is that they were already developing her as a character well before the original Judgment, or the Lords of Shadow. If you were going to base any character off of their Lords of Shadow incarnation, it should be Death. He's voiced by Patrick Stewart, afterall. I'm getting the feeling that you recorded this video long before you knew you were only doing Thorgiween for a week instead of the whole month of October.
Carmilla is not Succubus. Carmilla is only in Cv2, Rondo, Dracula X, Circle and the animated series. Edit: yeah, idk why I listed Rondo twice, it was supposed to be Circle
@@uandresbrito5685 I didn't mean she was a demoness succubus, but just that she was a vampire who was succubus-like. I'm not sure if there is a better word for it, that and the game hasn't always been 100% consistent and I remember them calling her a succubus in at least one of the games, though that could just be a translation error or something. Or I could be remembering wrong. That's a possibility.
@@khodexus4963 Even if she was a succubus, you're just making up this connection. The succubus in SotN and the others in the other games have no direct relation with Carmilla. Every time Carmilla appears she's named.
I have a really weird idea for a Halloween themed Build the Roster: SCP Foundation Fighting Game. You'd be amazed at how many anomalies from the SCP foundation would work perfectly for a fighting game.
something someone must have pointed this already but Elizabeth Barley is based on elizabety Bathory (pretty sure the name was close) a famous duchess for bathing on the blood of young girls to keep being young (with over 100 girls killed and was sentenced to stay impressed on her castle being feed trough holed) and her real-life person and story was used to create one of the first vampire novels, Carmilla, so yeah that's just Carmilla with another name
I would add Olrox because he was promoted from a random unimportant boss in SOTN to the main villain in the novel based on the cancelled 3rd Soma game.
Would love to see Nathan from circlet of the moon. The card system could have been represented as random effects that range from Buffs to changing his moveset
Now that Konami has slowly but surely getting back on track with upcoming projects like Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater and the Silent Hill 2 remakes and putting out quality collections of their games I can see a brand new Castlevania fighting game existing
Alternate Warriors of Dark picks. 1) Annette Renard: She becomes the succubus in the canonical ending of Rondo. She can be a keep away fighter ala Dhalsim with a super where she becomes her opponent's true love (Trevor/Selpha, Alucard/Maria, Ortega/Loona from _Hellava Boss,_ ect). 2) Persephone: Camilla's French maid servant. Since she uses karate in the GBA games, she'd be a combo heavy rushdown fighter like Jam from _Guilty Gear._ Her super would involve that unholy vacuum cleaner.
To be fair to Dracula having a niece, maybe she's a great niece. He did used to be a human of House Cronqvist before he became Dracula, so maybe she's a distant descendant of the Cronqvist line he particularly liked, and decided to turn.
Likewise, Carmilla did have a humanoid form before Lords of Shadow and the Netflix show, she had one in Circle of the Moon.
I feel the perfect Devs for this would be Soul Calibur devs, perhaps a fun crossover with Bandai Namco. I mean Nightmare/Siegfried would be the perfect Guest character(s) for both the Light & Night sides.
Agreed, they would handle it really well.
What about Arc System Works?
Kazuya in the Night side
Everyone: I thought you were dead!
Build the Roster: My death was... greatly exaggerated
it's only been like 3 months
@@StickBreightley certainly hasn’t felt like that
Also I thought that “Let’s make a sequel” replaced it, given how we got two episodes of it in the 3 months without Build the Roster
@@StickBreightley it felt longer plus i figured it was done the sequel series started
If anything, the zombies, ghosts, vampires and skeletons in Castlevania are livelier than Konami itself.
But probably treated just as badly as Konami employees. #FucKonami
@@daleketchup7434 hey Dracula has standards
@@lord_berkut2426 you know what, you’re right. Drac probably gives his slaves better treatment than Konami ever will
@@daleketchup7434 The problem with Castlevania is that Konami tried to bring it to 3d and it kinda doesn't work. The other problem is that Konami doesn't believe that 2d games can sell well unless their on mobile devices.
There's something kinda adorably hilarious about Cornell asking Alucard if he can match the speed of a wolf, considering Alucard can literally turn into a wolf equipped with a knock off Metroid speed booster
"Grant looking like a cross between a mummy and Voldo."
So...just looking like Voldo.
27:44 If I understand correctly, "Elizabeth Bartley, niece of Dracula" is an invention of localizers. In Japanese version she is who she is obviously supposed to be, Elizabeth Bathory, the Blood Countess, the serial killer noble from Transylvania. She is infamous for bathing in blood of maidens believing that it will prolong her youth... which most people now agree she never did and it was a later invention. To my knowledge there is no traceable blood relation between her and historic Vlad III/Tepes/Dracula, though one of the members of her family did lead a military campaign together with Vlad, but he wasn't Elizabeth's ancestor. In short, she is not Dracula's niece.
Kid Dracula wouldn't exactly be too weird. If the story of this hypothetical Castlevania Judgement 2 continues from the previous one, then he actually could be written in fairly organically. The main boss of Judgement, Time Reaper, works for Galamoth who started out as the main villain of Kid Dracula. So if Judgement 2 revolves around another Galamoth plot then Kid Dracula would have a good reason to be involved.
Yeah. My main argument against Kid Dracula as described is because of the dichotomy of the warriors of Light and Night, and Kid Dracula would TECHNICALLY be a Warrior of Light in this case since he was the hero of that game against Galamoth. I would honestly replace KD WITH Galamoth instead as a Playable Final Boss.
I could imagine Leon Belmont's story mode, he fights his descendants and calls Dracula by his former name lol
I would love to see that. It's not a bad idea. 😄
Dracula could say something really dramatic like, "That man died lifetimes ago."
And Leon would be like, "Yet here you stand."
There is also the fact that in both the Anime and the games it was states that Dracula was ACTIVELY FLEEEING from Leon.
So imagine an older, wiser Dracula meeting the friend he betrayed hundreds of years ago, the man who LITTERALLY paved the road to Dracula's rebirth.
I also like the idea of a Leon who comments on the actions his descendants made as he watched from beyond.
Maybe even remark how he wished a spelll like Charlotte's Sanctuary was around to save Sarah.
Even better if Soma was in it, since... they kinda mirror each other.
The first Belmont against the reincarnated Dracula who is on the good side.
Thorgi in his aria of the night video: "I'm not going to spoil the big secret ending"
Thorgi two days later: Spoils the big secret ending (For Aria of the night)
Whoops XD
aria of the night
@@AjayESharma fixed it so it's more understandable
One thing that's surprising, but makes sense the more I thought about it is that the roster is kind of zoner heavy. It makes sense considering how many characters have access to long ranged attacks (especially bosses). Also disappointed that there's no mention of Shaft
I would kind of want Slogra and Gaibon as a duo characters. Maybe Gaibon could ride on Slogra's back and even lift him around when he's not flying around to attack on his own.
Not a bad pick. Could be at least in Death's moveset
HELL yes, easily my top boss pick.
Castlevania Judgement was based. Probably not technically good, but based.
I think Miriam from Bloodstained would make for a fun DLC Cameo character, though she runs the risk of potentially feeling a bit samey when Shanoa is already in the game. Zangetsu would probably feel more unique.
Unfortunately, that likely wouldn't happen. Konami has a very... unique policy when it comes to former employees, i.e. they are dead to them. Koji Igarashi basically made Bloodstained as a big "That that!" to Konami, not just in premise, but also in details--names of dead victims being from past Castlevania games, one optional boss being *very* reminiscent of a Belmont, and another such boss being a literal shot machine. And that's before you remember Zangetsu is voiced by David Hayter, aka Solid Snake back when the Metal Gear games were still under Hideo Kojima's control (and the less said there, the better).
@@fictionfan0 Sad news Judgment was all Koji Igarashi's idea, including motion controls.
I'd have no issue with a third of the roster having access to a whip, just as long as the whip is used in wildly different ways for each character. There's a lot of different styles and moves using a whip that can be spread out to the different belmonts
I can't imagine how uncomfortable it would be to fight wearing clothing like that...
Like look at Simon, he's practically wearing a metal ribcage on the outside, and with all that skin showing...he'll have cuts and bruises all over himself.
DLC: Pyramid Head, Red Sonja, Vampirella and the "Splatterhouse" hero.
Request: how would you make "Star Wars: Masters of Teras Kasi" ...well...excellent as a remake, please?
Dante, Jill Valentine, Vamp from Metal Gear, and either Rayne from BloodRayne or Jackie Estacado.
Splatterhouse Protag is Rick Taylor.
@@RotaAbyssian Thank you.
I have a good suggestion for building a fighting game, Dungeons and Dragons. I'd imagine their be a story mode that brings in classic and loved characters across the franchise, like Drizzt Do'Urden, Tasha, Strahd, Minsc and Boo, Raistlin Majere, Lady of Pain, Someone from the Magic setting, Maybe someone from Critical Roll? There are a lot of settings and worlds and characters to draw from, the fun part is finding the right mix of races and classes and franchise representation in the roster. I can also see this having a nice character creation mode. I see this working best as a 3v3 fighter with a forth support character that add a effect like with Persona 5 Area what if.
Funny thing is, they made a D&D fighting game once, but it didn't have any recognizable characters. Maybe that contributed to its failure...
YES
As a huge DND fan, I approve.
@@mdalsted Think a lot of old extra DnD media was like that back then, Like I think the Mystara Capcom Beat Ups had original characters and those are considered classics. then there was that animated series, and pretty sure most of the old comics did their own thing as well. Oh and those live action movies.
What if some of the characters were MONSTERS? Like a zoner beholder, a trapper mind flayer, and a unga bunga hill giant?
Build the Roster: Evil Zone 2. The first game came out on the Playstation back in 1999 and was basically different protagonists from what seem to be representing different anime/manga genres and sub-genres coming togethor to fight off an evil presence that brought them all togethor. Horror, martial arts, fantasy, magical girl, tokasatsu, almost had one character per genre. With anime and manga being more popular than ever before and games having more characters selectable than years ago, I think we can add more caricatures and archetypes such as male and female love interest from a romance, knowledge hungry inventor from a steampunk, the hard working prodigy from sports, the isekai human turned into a monster or creature of some kind, you could even somehow add in the parody character or two that are out of Panty and Stocking as an example. Stages would be more detailed and fit with each and every genre and sub genre as well as the music for the stages like fighting in a school yard and class room or the magical girls kingdom. They all had rivals as well, each and every one of them, so it would be funny to see others like how a sports character talks to a horror villain or a steampunk inventor talks to to either the male or female live rival. So while you wouldn't be picking out a character persay, you would be picking out the archetype and caricature to represent the genre and subgenre they come from.
Hell yeah, that would probably be more suited to "let's make a sequel" though.
This is gonna be THE anime crossover, no more sticking to Shonen Jump. We could have Lucy from Elfen Lied fight Alucard from Hellsing, if that game gets a sequel I hope we can see that
@@mirzapramudya1580 While that would be awesome, something like that would be a bit more complicated as no one studio has as many familiar characters as Shonen Jump or Tastunoko does. This is why the game has to stick to the caricature and archetype, otherwise it would be a copyright and trademark nightmare to keep the game up online, especially if their from different companies.
@@mirzapramudya1580 ... what? No, evil zone is literally the tropes personafide. Don't know where you're getting anime crossover. Also yes I know this comment is 6 months old but that's how long it took for me to watch this and see your reply.
Evil Zone, oh hell yeah. I am ALWAYS surprised when others know that game.
I used to pass this game on to my friends just to let them get good at this, because nobody could beat me in this game.
Honestly it would've been cool if someone like Kentaro Miura would've done the redesigns for the characters a lot of his character design would go hand in hand with Castlevania's but sadly that'll never happen
Yeah rip the goat
Great picks, I wonder what the game would be like if they could go crazy with adding Belmonts? Seeing how many there are, it feels like they could fill up an entire roster with just them 😂
Ngl, it's just gonna be Family Feud HAHAHA
i'm playing through lament of innocence so i was half expecting Leon to show up considering HE MADE THE VAMPIRE KILLER
43:55 (spoilers for lords of shadow)
Dracula&Gabriel: *arguing*
Soma: Can I have a bagel?
Dracula&Gabriel: *arguing intensifies*
Soma: Can I PLEASE have a bagel!
What we wanted: This, maybe a new game
What we got: NFTS
Thanks konami, my expectations were at 0 and some how you dug deeper
Ah, so you weren't the only one.
Good news Castlevania is Back, as new content in Dead Cells.
The only thing I know about Castlevania Judgement is that it gave us the greatest remix of Vampire Killer ever (of all time)
I love this roster, I’m just slightly sad that Eric is off it.
Btw, Kid Dracula is legit Alucard. The final boss from Kid Dracula shows up in SotN. It’s hilarious.
As sad as I am as well, I would rather him be off it than get the version we had before. That said, if he was back and had his design from Portrait of Ruin, I would be SUPER down.
I doubt Konami would actually do this, but what if we got Jonathan Joestar and Dio Brando (part 1 version) on this roster?
That would been awesome .
It would be awesome but I think the closest we would probably get would be Zephyr from Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow with his time stop and knives. Though Aeon could fill the same role.
Closest we could probably get for Jonathan would be with guest characters would likely be Django from Boktai, a lesser known Konami property from the GBA who crossed over with Mega Man Battle Network, staring a Vampire Hunter who uses the power of the sun himself with his solar powered gun.
@@shadowclaw7210 Good news Castlevania is Back, as new content in Dead Cells.
Kinda sad to not see Aeon back, considering I think he's a pretty cool character and that he was the one who brought the cast of Judgement 1 together in the first place.
I also feel like the Aria of Sorrow has a bit too much representation? Counting your DLC picks, it's got 4 characters, which is a lot of a 16 to 20 character roster. I'd probably cut out Graham, personally. Other then that, I like most of this roster. Good work as always, Thorgi.
I would love to see Aeon back for those reasons you mentioned. He is my best fighter and my favorite out of all of them.
Instead of Balore, i think Frankenstein & Igor would be better. They would play like Fera and Thor from MK.
see i was thinking Karasuman. the flight mixed with the feather attacks i think could be pretty cool
Officially "The creature" and "fleaman" but yeah the basis is pretty obvious. I know I'm um actuallying on a comment 2 years old, but given that those characters are in the public domain it is a conscious choice
Very good use of the bait-and-switch gag at the start there. I thought it was building up to a nonsequitur, but then it made perfect sense :)
I have a request for an episode of either build the roster, or let’s make a sequel (in this case a new game) Mega Man Clash: a platform fighting game based on the mega man franchise, that would act as a crossover between all of the different mega man series!
Should we have all five main blue bombers . Have 3 out 5. Then have 2 other as dlc.
Unlikely but i would love to see QuakeWoman, MultiMan and HypnoWoman as figthers in that game
I loved this idea so much I made my own roster for it: Mega Man
Proto Man
Bass
Duo
Roll
Elec Man
Guts Man
X
Zero
Axl
Sigma
Aile
Mega Man Volnutt
Tron Bonne
MegaMan.EXE
Harp Note
I really wanted to include a Star Force character but I just couldn’t fit one in
There are so many characters in the franchise that aren’t the “robot master” of that game, that the roster could be absolutely massive. I made a 40 character roster out of just main characters
I would honestly buy this. Also in terms of other characters, maybe Mathias Cronqvist & Sonia Belmont just so we can see the potential Mathias has as well as just bringing back Sonia
If you wanted to get wacky with the legal issues, then a DLC season of the Bloodstained cast would be pretty slick. Miriam, Zangetsu, Dominique and Alfred would be a solid four.
They could work it out, Bloodstained is made by a former director of Castlevania right?
@@mirzapramudya1580 Exactly. And that's the problem. Konami's policy is that one you stop working at Konami, you are dead to them. There's a reason (actually several reasons) people used the hashtag F*Konami.
...small thing, but no mention of Carmilla's human form in Circle of the Moon? It may not be considered canon, but I'm pretty sure it was the first time she was actually depicted that way (or at least played more of a hand in the story than as just another recurring boss). And her design's a lot better in CotM than it was in Judgment.
And speaking of Circle of the Moon, Nathan Graves is 100% the character I'd want to see in a hypothetical Judgment 2 (even if there's almost zero chance of it happening). Sure he fights with a whip, same as the Belmonts, but I think the CotM card-based magic system could be incorporated into his moveset in such a way to make him stand out against the other protagonists.
I was also honestly thinking of Nathan as my more out-there pick. Which of his specific card combos would you put in as his moves? A large part of me wants to see Nathan whip out the gun from one of his combos
Shanoa, Charlotte and Soma are so badass! But what about these?
Light
Nathan Graves
Carrie Fernandez
Stella Lecarde
Night
Student Witch
Maid Persephone
Frozen Shade
For Death, his Judgement redesign literally only needed a hood. The redesign was sick.
Can I just say that the intro for Build the Roster feels simply yet kind of satisfying?
Two ideas for future episodes:
Tatsunoko vs Capcom 2
A new Shonen Jump crossover fighter
Here's an idea I've toyed with time and again:
A RWBY fighting game.
BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle already showed how the main characters and Neo would work. So how could the concept be made into a full game?
I was always under the impression that Golem was actually Balore but they couldn't keep the trademark on his name for some reason.
Side note, I could totally see the final boss of the second game being Galamoth, pulling a "Fine, I'll do it myself" after the defeat of Time Reaper.
I absolutely love this! Castlevania lore is something I legitimately started learning about last year so hearing an entire video going over many characters especially Soma and Gabriel is amazing to me.
Aeon in this game is my only hope and those puns were beautiful.
The video no one expected, but the video we needed. Interesting to see where it goes.
I really like that base roster, but I'm not so sure about the DLC picks. No offense, of course.
Personally, as someone who has never played Castlevania but enjoys the concept:
Julius Belmont (I do agree on this one), Grant Danasty, Stella Lecarde, Galamoth
I love you for picking Kid Dracula. Also, Simon Belmont from Captain N???? That show had an entire castlevania episode and their version of Alucard was WILD.
Here are two interesting ideas for characters: Shaft from Rondo of Blood with the four classic Castlevania bosses as summons and Pyramid Head from Silent Hill
He could be preorder bonus lol
@@Mr.WhatzitTooya Konami would do that...
Great idea. That would cover all the OG classic and recurring bosses in a single character.
@@gabealexander8878 Good News Silent Hill is back.
@@orangeslash1667 Hopefully, Konami doesn't Konami it up
I always assumed (especially with the white hair & fighting monsters) that Kid Dracula, was just Alucard when he was very young.
So, if Konami decides to make a good castlevania fighting game and they put in Trevor, what are the chances they give him the same voice as the one from the Netflix series, complete with swears?
For a future instalment of Build the Roster, you should build the roster for a Danganronpa fighting game. Spike Chunsoft has recently been making tons of new stuff for the series and the creator, Kazutaka Kodaka, has said that he was interested in making a fighting game in the future for Danganronpa.
Oh my gosh, that's kind of funny as hell.
I was genuinely afraid when you said only 8 Heroes that Soma would fall by the Wayside. I'm glad my fears were unfounded. And I love that you gave Charlotte some thought. I liked using her far more than Jonathan in PoR, even though facets of the game seemed geared to make you focus on him and leave her aside.
It would be funny if Galamoth was the villain of Judgement 2 (he WAS the one who sent Time Reaper) and he faces Kid Dracula.
Wow lots of cuts. I would have kept Cornell, Grant, Eric Lecarde, & Aeon. As for additions I would have included Hector and Isaac because it would be weird having one but not the other. Also Sonia Belmont to make up for Resurrection's cancellation.
The premise of Judgement is great....its execution was ....well it was written in the book the artist is responsible for the art for. Also I think Aeon could be in the base roster as he's technically his own faction
If there's one thing I've learned from playing fighting games it's that you can make anything work as a character with enough work & creativity. So I'd say keep Balore this huge monster & work around it. Make it so he can't move, but has a long range unblockable grab to force the opponent in close. And to keep with his hulking monstrosity vibe, he wouldn't have hit stun, but he'd be kinda slow & you could attack either his arms or body to do damage.
For those that saw this earlier,Kid Dracula is from the game of the same name that only appeared in Japan for the Famicom system.
You can get a chance to play the game and learn of the character,plus where he fits in the Castlevania timeline,by buying the Castlevania Collection game because Kid Dracula appears in there.
I honestly think that instead of Carmilla, one could have Blackmore from OoE instead as he has a more interesting moveset to work with, manipulating his shadows to attack for him like a Puppet Character and zoning with his Dark Fireballs would separate himself from the rest.
Though with Carmilla, I do think adding in her partner, Laura in some assists would be more beneficial to her as those two mostly work as a team. Either to drain enemy meter or rush in to deal damage.
Even in hypothetical games, Grant gets screwed over.
Honestly great list of characters but here me out for a few more DLC character ideas I have like 4 of my own and I think you might like them. Though 2 of them are more of an unlikely surprise that would be welcome.
*LIGHT*
_Kokoro Belmont_
I know this sounds like a fake Belmont but she's real and from Otomedius Excellent, a spin off of the Gradius series. She would likely be the Kid Dracula of the warriors of light side.
I imagine her playstyle being similar to the Belmonts but for the sake of giving her something unique she rides in her modified Stavros Riding Viper and be a high speed zoner. I don't know how to make a ship work in a fighting game but you could do something similar to Tails is Sonic Adventure 2 and turn the ship into a mech with it's beam whip and such.
Plus I can imagine a Super where she uses her Platonic Break, "Lightning Sword" a cross-shaped beam that looks to be a modified version of the Grand Cross.
_Solar Boy Django_
This one would be a guest character. Being the main protagonist and a different vampire hunter from another Konami series, "Boktai"
Django has equipped a few weapons over the course of his adventures but we'll be going with his iconic main weapon and only weapon from the first game, the Gun Del Sol.
Being a solar powered gun, it fires ball of solar energy for his main attack, with it's EX changing to a short range wave in front of him that rapidly drains HP from enemies.
He will also be given his Solar Sword from Boktai 2 for the sake of close quarters combat.
For Special Attacks, he doesn't do much on his own so I think we could have him tap into his other weapons or even use the powers of his Dark Trance if we wanted to.
Speaking of Supers he got a few obvious ones such as his Pile Drivers, a device used to purify Immortals, as he summons Master Otenko to use them. A nice touch could be that if used on Warriors of the Night they are greatly weakened for the rest of the battle. Though this Super can only be used once and deals subpar damage to make up for it.
He also has another super in the form of his Sol Trance form from the Japan only Boktai 3 by fusing with Master Otenko. With it he temporary becomes much stronger for a short period of time at the cost of draining the Super meter. He also replaces his Dark Trance abilities with the ability to fire off blasts of sunlight and such. Perhaps having unlimited super meter for the duration of the form but can't use any other supers?
*NIGHT*
_Aeon_
Despite not being a villian, he was on the warriors of the night side in Judgment. But still I'm surprised you didn't bring him up considering he's supposed to be a major player in the events of the first game and arguebly the best part of it.
I imagine his moveset being similar but reworked to be better balanced. Perhaps with a few new moves to make him feel a bit more refreshed.
He also NEEDS to have new lines for his Super, "Requiem of the 13th Hour" flaunting the power he has over time or providing words of wisdom.
And with these faces I can think of a few while changing things up to better fit the reworked returning faces.
Such as...
Richter: "You may have made your mark in history, but every mark fades in time."
Soma: "Despite everything you still continue to defy fate as the dark lord. You have truly earned your era of peace, reincarnation of Dracula."
Django: "Even the power of the sun can not complete with the power of time young hero of another world."
_Dark Boy Sabata_
Being the rival of Django from the Boktai series if Django was to join, someone from his series has to join the side of the night to balance things out and why not his older twin brother Sabata.
While it's also bending the rules considering that even though he is associated with the dark, the Dark Boy isn't really a villain. Even going as far as to save Django's life on numerous occasions.
I imagine him fighting similar to the Solar Boy only with an altered moveset to better fit the Dark Boy.
Starting with his Gun Del Hell, the dark counterpart to the Gun De Sol it would work as a slower but stronger variation of it firing Dark Matter. For the sake of giving him a close range weapon he could use the Sword of Darkness, while he never uses it in the games his brother Django has and considering it's the dark counterpart to the Solar Sword it would only be fitting.
Though while Django doesn't have much good in the way of potential special attacks besides his Gun De Solar outside of either Dark Trance abilities and other weapons. Sabata has some already existing options, like his Dark Warp teleport or Zero Shift to teleport a shirt distance and bypass enemies. He's also got Ice Spear and Fire Ball to summon several icicles and conjures an icy mist and conjure several explosive fireballs respectively.
As for his possible Supers, he has Black Sun which allows him to block out the sun, or any other forms of light, for a short period and Black Hole has him use the Gun De Hell to create a black hole capable of sucking in energy projectiles and enemies to trap them.
Side note was considering The Count of Groundsoaking Blood, over Sabata but I think the latter is more interesting playstyle wise and the count is too similar to Dracula anyway.
While I imagine Django and Sabata would be incredibly unlikely and more of pipe dream guest characters I imagine many would be excited to see them again.
This is what I would do for the roster (though your roster was great! This is hypothetical after all!)
Warriors of light
Aeon- he’s like the mascot you can’t leave him out
Simon- duh
Alucard- duh again
Shanoah- great rep. For the ds games
Cornell- werewolf’s are awesome and he is a good n64 rep
Soma- good gba rep. and a fan favorite
Maria- I guess she can rep. for the tg16
Leon- he is underrated and we need a ps2 rep. (Hector could work too)
Warriors of night
Dracula- duh
Death- duh again
Elizabeth- she is also underrated and can rep. For SEGA genesis
St. Germain- he is more of an anti hero and death hates him but I feel he would have great interactions with the cast( especially aeon)
Issac- he’s a cool character who’s game appearance needs more representation (I love his portrayal in curse of darkness though I like the show version as well)
Ortega- yeah completely agree with you on this one
Knight armor- iconic enemies for the games with so many different appearances
Carmila- she kinda needs to be here, so yeah
DLC
(I would love to have 3rd parties like Nightmare or demitri but I’ll stick to 1st parties)
Eric- I would love too see him appear before he becomes wind
Gabrielle- never crossed my mind but I love it
Any Belmont/spell caster hero- just, sure
Pyramid head or psycho mantis- I feel some other representation would be good and these guys could fit.
Sonia as a secret fight; she's bassicly an hybrid of the 3 Belmonts of the base roster but she mostly uses her mystical powers.
I also mainly do that for the Trevor's interactions.
I hope you keep the Castlevania Judgement 1 redesigns, because those are AWESOME.
cornells is by far my favorite
Cornell and Camilla were the coolest in the game
I have two ideas for a Build the Roster episode right here.
1: A sequel to Dissidia NT on the PS5 incorporating guest characters and including the Final Fantasy spinoffs
2: A Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm-like crossover game with a lot of characters from Shonen Jump to the Dengeki Bunko PS3 fighting game... I mainly made this because I mainly wanted to be my best girl of choice (Asuna by the way...) in a 3D arena fighter
Okay that opening gag really got me, there is nothing more terrifying than Konami
I would have added Albus as well.
a mix between fire arms and hand to hand combat would be an interesting combo for a character
Belnades doesn't need to be another ranger spellcaster. It'd befit her to be on the more aggressive and close range end of the spectrum.
Love the Build a Roster videos!! Would love to see how you'd do this for Soul Calibur, Samurai Shodown, Killer Instinct, Bloody Roar/Beastorizer, Jump Force, and Terrordrome: Rise of the Legends (especially since there's so many legendary monsters from around the world and urban legends to pull from!!).
Well, you definitely got the three characters I'd want to see in there in there - Alucard, Death, Kid Dracula...
33:17 I'd say he's too big for any saving. Unlike Ridley.
I'd say the Creature would be a better pick.
So I'm not disappointed with the Aria/Dawn of sorrow representation here, but I will say I was hoping you'd save one of your weird, niche picks for Hammer. Just have him throwing around weapons and items that he picked up from the castle, maybe some actual military hardware.
I scrolled down pretty far and didn't see this name, Nathan Graves. Despite being a wielder of the whip, he did NOT feel like a Belmont(Considering he wasnt), and i think his play style with his card abilities would have been awesome. Change up his cards during battle and his moveset would change, and it would be awesome for chain attacks.
Carmilla should have a masquerade mask with a little handle the references her older design
PLEASE make Issac's super move or EX move be summoning his blue stand, whom I've named NSYNC, from the anime! Because that beast was too cool!
"if you never played any of the games I'm surprised you got this far thank you for watching" you are welcome. I may not have played any of the games but I did in fact buy them... I just have a very hard time actually playing the games that I buy and I enjoyed the anime and Smash. This definitely is good learning about the characters.
"The 35th anniversary is coming up!" How naive we all were...
I know this video is over a year old now and you've probably played Dawn of Sorrow by now and also just know more about Julius in general, but to rattle off some more reasons that he's peak Belmondo besides permanently killing Dracula:
-All of his appearances that we've seen firsthand are while he's in his 50s, yet he still appears as the most powerful character in both games, including over Alucard, and was likely even more ridiculous in his prime
-During his boss fight in Aria of Sorrow, you can see the castle literally falling apart in the background just from him charging up Grand Cross, before he even unleashes it, and this is directly followed by Soma asking why he's been holding back during their fight
-Soma completely trusts him to come kill him again if he loses control to Dracula's soul, and if you get the bad ending in either Sorrow game Julius does exactly that
-In Dawn of Sorrow, you have to fulfill the early DS touchscreen gimmick quota by drawing Magic Seals every time you finish off a boss to actually get rid of it, or else it will regenerate endlessly. Late in the game, you come across Julius and Soma asks how he's getting around the castle, to which Julius replies that he just kinda obliterates bosses so thoroughly that they can't regenerate fast enough, shocking Soma who thinks that shouldn't even be possible to do
-At the end of the game, there is a barrier to basically Hell that nobody can get through, so Julius decides to just blow it open with a Grand Cross. This serves as an excuse to sideline him so Soma can be the one to go finish things but a wild feat to top off his run through the castle
Honestly you could just go with the fact that Alucard scales above Richter who is the other strongest Belmont and that already says enough about Julius, but his feats are fun to think about
While I totally get not wanting too many Belmonts... Juste is my favourite and would be a great zoner option with his subweapon spells.
He's not as iconic, but he'd have so much potential move wise, and hey, games like this can bring forgotten characters to the public eye!
He's also the main Non-Julius contender for Strongest Belmont, because he's a Belmont AND a Belnades. Vampire killer AND magical bloodline.
I'd add just one more Belmont to the list, Julius. Speaking just in terms of the story for Castlevania, he was the final Belmont to face Dracula, and the one to put down the vampire king for good. In respect to adding another hero, let's add Walter Bernhard to the roster as well. He was, after all, the vampire whose soul was used to create Dracula after the events of Lament of Innocence. I think they make a fitting pair to add together, the first vampire hunted and slain by clan Belmont and the final hunter of that same clan, the beginning and the end.
If we have a rival thing like in the first Castlevania, Soma Cruz and Dracula HAVE to face off! I don't want to see anything else.
Idea for charlotte
She can call Jonathan for some of her moves, maybe like a puppet fighter, that combines some slow spells and pressure with Jonathan (wich can use MORE than just whips, contrary to what the video says, he can use shortswords, greatswords, spears, hammers and can also punch very fast, he can throw daggers, grenades, the bible, axes, can do martial arts, etc)
My delight when I called Kid Dracula the moment before he was revealed was powerful.
The added roster : Soma, Jonathan, Charlotte, Leon, Joachim, Albus, Stella, Loretta, Julius
For storyline, maybe more focusing on Leon and Soma since they're kinda a foil and mirror of each other; the first Belmont who is the beginning of all, and reincarnated Dracula, the starting of a new leaf of redemption.
Huh , Castlevania had a fighting game
Well this would be interesting but I know like nothing about Castlevania outside of Simon , Richter, Alucard
Also Dracula beats Ganondorf in Death Battle so there is that
Warriors of Light
9:17 Simon Belmont
11:22 Richter Belmont
13:03 Trevor Belmont
15:16 Shanoa
17:05 Charlotte Aulin
19:04 Maria Renard
21:37 Alucard
23:13 Soma Cruz
Warriors of Night
25:35 Dracula
27:16 Elizabeth Bartley
28:56 Ortega
30:22 Isaac
32:05 Balore
33:53 Carmilla
35:39 Graham Jones
37:04 Death
DLC
40:19 Sypha Bernades
41:35 Julius Belmont
42:51 Gabriel Belmont
44:14 Kid Dracula
Now this seems like a pretty reasonable roster, given how Konami is.
Here are some suggestions for a 'Build the Roster/Sequel':
-Power Stone 3;
-Kingdom Hearts Versus XIII;
-Sonic the Fighters 2;
-Shaman King of Fighters;
-Yu Yu Hakushodown;
-Digimon Rumble Arena 4;
-Medabots Robattle;
-Fate/unlimited codes 2;
-Capcom VS Osamu Tezuka Characters;
-Capcom All Stars Versus;
-Marvel Super Heroes 2;
-Space Jam 3-on-3;
-One Piece Battlers.
Just finished Order of Ecclesia two days ago. Shanoa was such a masterwork in character design, no wonder she became such a fan-favourite.
This is a great roster, and it does feature some no-brainer picks in both the obvious choices and some very obscure characters mixed in.
However, since this is Konami we're talking about, I don't think they'd be one to stop at four DLC characters. Trust me, they can still pull the "fanservice" card to get about 50 characters in there.
But I'm not going to do that, as I also want to remain hopeful. So, instead, I'll list off some characters that sound most befitting for the DLC lineup:
Round #1: The First Terminator
Theme: Characters that missed the boat when jumping from the first Judgement game to this one.
Fighter #1: Aeon(Castlevania Judgement)
Artstyle aside, I'm surprised that the one character that was created specifically for Judgement 1 completely missed the second game. As such, he should be the first of these veteran newcomers to get the callback.
Fighter #2: Cornell(Legacy of Darkness)
Since we have a few pairs of characters of a hero and a villain from the same game, Cornell should duke it out against Ortega in this game. Enough said.
Fighter #3: Golem(Haunted Castle)
Show of hands, aside from Kid Dracula himself, who the heck is memorable enough to be part of the Castlevania universe? The only other guy who could potentially do so is Golem. So, that means that he has another reason to return.
Fighter #4: Grant Danasty(Dracula's Curse)
Screw it, let's go all the way on the newcomers. It's not like there are that many who missed their chances to begin with for this dream roster.
Fighter #5: Eric Lecarde(Bloodlines)
The only reason why this round has five fighters is to get all the original reps in the new Judgement title, even if more DLC has to be made to get them in. From here on out, the packs will have four characters in it, like the DLC picks you chose.
On a sidenote, I called this round "The First Terminator" because that movie's first sequel was called...Judgement Day. I had to give it that sort of title to entice people.
Round #2: The New Class
Theme: Characters who are new to the Judgement series, yet still have an important enough legacy on their own.
Fighter #1: Hector(Curse of Darkness)
Remember what I said about Cornell? The same can be said about this guy against Isaac, end of discussion.
Fighter #2: Christopher Belmont(Belmont's Revenge)
This guy is the protagonist of one of the lesser-known games in the Castlevania franchise, yet he's also a protagonist in that game, so he should be in this.
Fighter #3: Nathan Graves(Circle of the Moon)
We have more than enough Belmonts in this list, and the Morris family isn't really worthy of the Vampire Killer, so let's just get Nathan Graves as a compromise to both points.
Fighter #4: Satan(Lords of Shadow)
If we already have Dracula and Death in this game, and if the other bosses are too unnecessary for this slot, why not get the literal Prince of Darkness? Seriously, he makes those two look like chumps.
Now, for this final pass, I'm actually going to include guest fighters, but only those who would feel at home in the Castlevania franchise. Well, except for one of these, but we'll get to him later.
Round #3: Any Volunteers?
Fighter #1: Miriam(Bloodstained)
True to my word, the guest fighters have to fit in the world of Castlevania to quality for this. And considering how Bloodstained was created by an ex-Konami employee, has an 8-bit style and a dark overtone, AND has a rather familiar female Indie character, I have to put her first on this list.
Fighter #2: Dimitri Maxinoff(Darkstalkers)
You guys might be wondering why Morrigan isn't the Darkstalkers rep? Well, she's been exposed numerous times in the Capcom Vs. games, no pun intended, including a variation of Satan and a boss who once fought while buck naked would have already raised the rating considerably, and Morrigan's not the main character here. Dimitri is. That, and Miriam might also fill the girl quota here better than Morrigan would.
Fighter #3: Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Confession time! I really wanted to include Bella Swan in this, just to see people seethe in anger at the resurgence of the Twilight fandom. However, since Buffy almost got into Mortal Kombat, she was more than deserving of a slot. Speaking of which, has anyone found a pattern to this round? Female, male, female, male. Well, not only is the last rep in this game a male, but he's also why I added that disclaimer at the beginning.
Fighter #4: Count Duckula
Yes, you're not fooling your eyes. I really just put that British vampire duck in the game. In a similar manner to Satan, this avian makes Kid Dracula look like an everyday Castlevania protagonist. At least that guy resembles a human! Which is exactly he's the one exception to this gang of guests. I mean, when you look at his credentials, he kinda fits the idea of "that era when the classic monsters were for children". Plus, he has ties to both the macabre and the Nickelodeon channel that would make Nosferatu cry in shame.
And that's my list. Confused? Angry? In a laughing fit? Tell me your thoughts on this new gaggle of representatives.
Carmilla had a pretty significant role in Symphony of the Night as well, iirc. She was the vampire/succubus who trapped Alucard in a dreamscape to relive the night of his mother's death. She also appeared in a similar form though less narratively important in Lament of Innocence. My point is that they were already developing her as a character well before the original Judgment, or the Lords of Shadow.
If you were going to base any character off of their Lords of Shadow incarnation, it should be Death. He's voiced by Patrick Stewart, afterall.
I'm getting the feeling that you recorded this video long before you knew you were only doing Thorgiween for a week instead of the whole month of October.
Carmilla is not Succubus. Carmilla is only in Cv2, Rondo, Dracula X, Circle and the animated series.
Edit: yeah, idk why I listed Rondo twice, it was supposed to be Circle
@@uandresbrito5685 Sorry, but that's incorrect. Also, you list Rondo twice, not sure why.
@@khodexus4963 ? Where did you get that info from? Carmilla is not even a Succubus in the first place
@@uandresbrito5685 I didn't mean she was a demoness succubus, but just that she was a vampire who was succubus-like. I'm not sure if there is a better word for it, that and the game hasn't always been 100% consistent and I remember them calling her a succubus in at least one of the games, though that could just be a translation error or something.
Or I could be remembering wrong. That's a possibility.
@@khodexus4963 Even if she was a succubus, you're just making up this connection. The succubus in SotN and the others in the other games have no direct relation with Carmilla. Every time Carmilla appears she's named.
I have a really weird idea for a Halloween themed Build the Roster: SCP Foundation Fighting Game. You'd be amazed at how many anomalies from the SCP foundation would work perfectly for a fighting game.
something someone must have pointed this already but Elizabeth Barley is based on elizabety Bathory (pretty sure the name was close) a famous duchess for bathing on the blood of young girls to keep being young (with over 100 girls killed and was sentenced to stay impressed on her castle being feed trough holed) and her real-life person and story was used to create one of the first vampire novels, Carmilla, so yeah that's just Carmilla with another name
Thorgu be like : let's turn everything into a fighting game
If only we got this for the 35th anniversary of Castlevania, instead of, NFTs...
I would add Olrox because he was promoted from a random unimportant boss in SOTN to the main villain in the novel based on the cancelled 3rd Soma game.
Would love to see Nathan from circlet of the moon. The card system could have been represented as random effects that range from Buffs to changing his moveset
Now that Konami has slowly but surely getting back on track with upcoming projects like Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater and the Silent Hill 2 remakes and putting out quality collections of their games I can see a brand new Castlevania fighting game existing
Man, no one ever gives respect to my guy Nathan graves, the DSS system would be so complicated but so cool in a fighting game
Charlotte! Jonathan!, Charlotte! Jonathan!, Charlotte! Jonathan!... (Loop) Yes I've played Portrait of Ruin , how did you know?
That impersonation in the beggining reminded me of Dean Pelton from Community, hahaha
Alternate Warriors of Dark picks.
1) Annette Renard: She becomes the succubus in the canonical ending of Rondo. She can be a keep away fighter ala Dhalsim with a super where she becomes her opponent's true love (Trevor/Selpha, Alucard/Maria, Ortega/Loona from _Hellava Boss,_ ect).
2) Persephone: Camilla's French maid servant. Since she uses karate in the GBA games, she'd be a combo heavy rushdown fighter like Jam from _Guilty Gear._ Her super would involve that unholy vacuum cleaner.
Another great vid Thorgi
Wow, I just bought this game on ebay literally a few days ago since I was feeling nostalgic, and then this video come out. What a perfect coincidence
Justice for Juste Belmont
The og strongest Belmont and the only Belmont mage
Aw, I was hoping you'd put in Julius. He knows kung-fu. Haha.
23:25 this got me so excited for no reason lol