The Discomfort of Thinking and Dissolving the Thinker
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I feel so privilege to be able to hear these words today and day after day after say Angel o. I had to search in libraries all over the place to find books that would help me understand clearly what the hell I was going through... that was a long long time ago. I sincerely hope the younger generation appreciate the luck they have to be able to access so easily to such wisdom as much as I do. 💙🙏
I like what Adyashanti said about awakening being about standing on your own two feet. I am happy that there's no need to take any notes for later or to reify anything you say, rather just able to sit and listen and sense the simple clarity you're pointing to here. Thank you so much.
I'm so relieved I've moved past taking notes - what a waste of time and effort lol. Either I'm ready for some bit of wisdom or I'm not. At most I'll bookmark book pages or keep a playlist of specific vids to listen to again.
It's really interesting too to hear the same talk, or read the same thing later with different insight and to see what had been in front of our faces the whole time. Some incredible pointers that we'd missed or some connection making sense that previously was not significant.
Holy crap. I have reified the wrestle with reality as a push and pull happening only in thoughts as a way to cope with the anxiety of really not knowing what to do with myself. The concept of “all struggle is a thought” has become an escapist thought at once highlighting this as fact and allowing me to avoid the discomfort of making choices.
Hard to explain but this is like a difficult acid trip. Everytime I think I’m dealing with “the real problem” it turns out to be just one underlying thought repeating itself for itself and pointing to what? I don’t know
Good insight!
Living as the small self is analogous to telling lies and having to constantly remember who I Said what to, it's exhausting
The other night at work I was scrolling reddit on my phone. There was some mental chatter going on about some topic. It was somewhat long but at 1 point it started to sound like background chatter you might here in a cafeteria.
Then suddenly and abruptly it stopped. As if "something" "said" shhhh. Figuratively of course. Then it got really quiet for maybe 10 seconds.
So this essentially confirms that a thought stream or busy mind doesn't stop anything. That the thought stopping was as automatic as a thought popping up out of nowhere. Really really interesting.
Interesting...not sure I quite understand or that my contribution would be relevant....but sometimes after a hard day's night of doomscrolling and feeling increasingly self disgusted...I arrive at a point of feeling paradoxically ecstatic. The runaway ghost train arrives at a station of joy and I am floating in a delight at being myself and everything being all about me. Whatever I think of...I'm already there. But the infuriating thing is this joy isn't scientifically reproducible. I can't even learn it. In the immortal words of Johnny mathis..." Its all a dream, an illusion now/ It will come true someday soon somehow."
Thank you for reminding us. I do need these pointings over and over.
Thank you for the instinct permission slip. I'm feeling an instinct to go with the instinct and put down the books and videos lately. The reminder is appreciated
What I notice is thoughts coming on a problem, in that moment the problem is real. Then after some time the problem is no longer real. Then after some time the problem is again real.
Beautiful video.
I guess instincts can take you where you need to be at a particular time, and then bring you to the next instinct.
My instinct now is that my objective mind can’t see what is not objective. Thought binds and localizes knowing into this whirlpool of consciousness, so I stay open in the sensations and also in the entirety of the visual field, letting go of the mind when it wants to try to figure it out with yet another goofy story.
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This is so helpful in this post-awakening phase for me, even having seen through thought based identify, the "need" to conceptualize has remained strong, after the honeymoon. Thank you Angelo 🙏🏻 P.S. this fits right in with your older video called "What the Heck is Consciousness?"
I've noticed if I look for the next thought, it becomes much less solid. It's like there are assumptions taking place or something like that, more subtle and less defined but it still feels like thinking in a way. It's weird it's not like the normal narration. But by the time narration resumes I have forgotten I'm looking for thoughts 😅
And then I go oh crap I was supposed to be looking for you ya sneaky thing but then that too is a thought! What a mess lol
Thank you for being in and speaking living truth.
Man thank you for this. I'm so close. Feeling like shit today, but listening to this while resting as pure being, the knowing, I'm sure I'm that. I'm curious when it will dawn on me (I know it's a thought). I'm resting and seeing what I am, I see it, that's not enough tho for a shift, but I bet it's coming if I stay there more. But thank you for this video, cause I'm feeling terrible and this brings me closer to me and further from my minds narrative
sometimes i get so excited listening to your videos, i can’t finish them lol
i keep pausing it to delay the inevitable ever present not knowing……
of course no “one” is doing this, or anything, but it looks like that’s happening
There's one point I found completely confusing (and, my reasoning claims, plain wrong): at 36:18 you start talking about how one may find that the gap until the next thought arises gets bigger when you repeat the exercise. But how can you even tell anything about the gap or notice its duration if (by definition!) there are no thoughts during that gap?? And isn't the realization that "the gap was longer this time round from what I remember from the previous time" (or some such inner statement) just another thought itself??
What is it that allows you to get a sense of the duration of the gap between thoughts? Is there some sort of absolute timekeeper, outside of thoughts? And if so, wouldn't that imply some sort of primacy/preexistence of time?
Completely CLEAR
Thank you for making these talks available for all of us, Angelo! They’ve been incredibly helpful ❤
You're so welcome!
Gratitude.
38:50 yeah. when youre just gliding. just consuming what you see and hear. as if youre being impressed non stop. no thoughts.
@42:10 "...freeze frame your mind on that one thought...." 🤯
Great talk. I am one of those people who takes notes on everything 😂😅 will stop that from now on.
I had what I thought was an awakening and for several months I felt a bliss/euphoria. I ended up going into a psychotic episode, put on anti-psychotics and haven't felt the same since. Its like a high I was on and came crashing down. I still feel I understand what the pointers are pointing to, but without the bliss or euphoria. Has anyone else had a similar experience with awakening?
Thanks for the clarifying reality check 🙏 ❤☮
Thank you so much ❤❤❤
You're welcome 😊
I feel I’m just at a point where I’m just waiting for the lights to turn on. Nothing left to do . Felt everything and also know the mind is fake . Now what to do but wait for love to pop out
It might not pop out as you think. The heart doesn't literally open up with love. There might be a honeymoon phase where you are filled with wonder and excitement, like how a child might see the world, but no literal romantic or platonic falling in love happening. For me it's like peace always.. but then there are these special moments, all moments are special, yet through my preconditioned ideals something will happen and it will feel like the universe gave it to me as an act of love. All just an idea, but these moments, including the mundane ones are what makes the human life so amazing. Love will become easier and brighter, but don't force anything. It simply takes time and it's waiting for you whenever you get there :)
The lights are already on, and there is a lot left to do. You will always be doing and unfolding. And it's not so much that the mind is fake, but what are the unfounded assumptions we hold? So what to do? Can you do anything other than what is happening? Are you doing the doing, or is it just happening, seeing, hearing, smelling, thoughts passing, questions arising. Who can do anything about this? Who can choose something else? When you see how it's all just happening, the doing question goes away.
unlearn all you know, and the love pops IN the space created 💞
In that space, I find it helpful to read Psalms of love and devotion..and the love pops out. It's much juicier than the impersonal nature of 'being awareness which does nothing for me.
Waiting is a thought
no non-duality speech really resonates with me. The only thing that kinda does it is wondering if im looking at the looking or if the looking is looking at me
Interesting idea. What if there’s no difference? You are the looking and the looking is you. Or said the opposite, you are neither the looking nor is the looking looking at you. For me right now it feels like every qualia just is. It’s hard to pinpoint a sense of me. It just feels like seeing is seeing and hearing is hearing and I can’t find an identity but I’m sure it’s there somewhere.
What I feel works for me is experiential stuff , like rest attention in sound then in a body feeling then in thoughts then rest attention on all three at the same time , things get very blurry and boundaries become fluid , sound , thought , self , body all one blob of experience
@@-Brendon- well the experience of thinking i am a looker and thinking i am the subject of being looked at are two different experiences and if i flip them repeatedly it starts to feel trippy.
I’m at a point now where “presence” is sort of the primary mode of being. Thoughts still arise, but this awakeness right now quickly closes any distance between a thought and this moment now - it’s almost one fluid thing. Even the thought “I’m hungry” is seen to refer to nothing, it appears the same as the immediate sense of hunger. Is there any more “work” to be done outside of just staying right here? I’ve heard shadow work and “merging with everything” but those just appear to be more thoughts, more concepts. In other words, is whatever this immediate awakeness is the final teacher? Is it really just this?
I feel asleep to this one and woke up.
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Hey Angelo I've got a question or a request for the next QnA. This is something that I'm struggling with for some time, but recently as I'm getting more conscious and less mind identified it's becoming a problem. I know there are things that I authentically want or authentic thoughts or things I want to say. We could call that an authentic voice. And I do want to be authentic beyond anything, but often I confuse my authentic voice with thoughts that I've internalized as "shoulds" coming from other people. I get even guilty or ashamed, because I adapt someone's judgment out of fear and then feeling like I'm doing something terrible, when really I'm not. Is there any way to find your authentic voice and or distinguish it from random thoughts and from voices of other people? Thank you
This feels artificial and mechanistic as the energy is very raw and primal, esp. rage and despair, that it can't be reduced down to a neatly packaged technique that doesn't even begin to address or release it. It is much deeper and energetic than words, and just because I see thought patterns doesn't release identification. The energy and pain is very much in the body and not just in the head which the video assumes
Question: when you start to operate from outside of thought, and recognising that every apparent need or problem to solve is merely in thought, how do you go about your life from a practical aspect?
Do you still plan? Do you keep a todo list? Or do you trust things take care of themselves just in time so to speak?
(It’s not lost on me that even this question is merely a thought and there’s no actual problem but humor me for a minute if you please 😂)
Exactly.
At some point relaxation/laughter arises.And doing happens or not,spontaneously.
You say consciousness forms subject object. I thought it was more like subject and object forming on its own, and us witnessing and believing that framework.
answered in future vid
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This funny looking animal on your lap, I cannot make heads or tails of it. Where is the head? The ears look so funny, like they're black triangles of paper. Now I did not hear a word you said... 🙃
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