The big, big problem with these figures is they are far too closely packed together. Polybius, our main source for the Romans of this period, tells us each Legionary had 3 square feet in which to fight. These don't look like they have 3 square inches. How would they throw their pila or swing/stab their swords?
Yep, I agree on the historical source. However i am not sure if we know if that is 3ft as a persons frontage or 1 1/2 foot each side, or even 3ft between me and the man next to me. What it does for me is help differentiate the Roman blocks from other types of troops, and i can live with the historical inaccuracies, for ease of the game.
The Republican Scutum was 2.9 feet wide so from a realism and ease of manufacturing point of view they are actuallly pretty acurate. I agree that they look a bit close together but its the same with many of the epic ranges, however once painted up in massed ranks they'll look great.
@@marksfishfrenzy You’re forgetting they were curved, so the actual frontage covered was more like 2’. That said though, the size of the shield is irrelevant, the figures on the epic bases are so closely packed there’s no way they could effectively fight. If a legionary tried to throw his pilum or wield his sword he’d bash his neighbours, to either side, in front and behind.
@@edwardkenworthy7013 It's just an abstract representation of a larger group of men. You're thinking too deeply about it. It represents the tighter formation alongside ease of manufacturing. Also, if you think about Cannae this is exactly what happened to the Romans when they became too tensly packed and they suffered the consequences of not being more restricted and compressed. Also, look at the strips in the Napoleonic and ACW range they are touching shoulders too so its no different. In any case my first reaction was the same I thought they looked a bit tight, but I'm warming to it. At arms length I'll struggle to see anyway : )
@@marksfishfrenzy Why bother with minis at all then. Just use WoFun cutouts, or counters or chits.There's always some compromise but here Warlord have made it worse by cramming in too many figures, a change they chose to make from the previous "epic" figures.
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The big, big problem with these figures is they are far too closely packed together. Polybius, our main source for the Romans of this period, tells us each Legionary had 3 square feet in which to fight. These don't look like they have 3 square inches. How would they throw their pila or swing/stab their swords?
Yep, I agree on the historical source. However i am not sure if we know if that is 3ft as a persons frontage or 1 1/2 foot each side, or even 3ft between me and the man next to me.
What it does for me is help differentiate the Roman blocks from other types of troops, and i can live with the historical inaccuracies, for ease of the game.
The Republican Scutum was 2.9 feet wide so from a realism and ease of manufacturing point of view they are actuallly pretty acurate. I agree that they look a bit close together but its the same with many of the epic ranges, however once painted up in massed ranks they'll look great.
@@marksfishfrenzy You’re forgetting they were curved, so the actual frontage covered was more like 2’. That said though, the size of the shield is irrelevant, the figures on the epic bases are so closely packed there’s no way they could effectively fight. If a legionary tried to throw his pilum or wield his sword he’d bash his neighbours, to either side, in front and behind.
@@edwardkenworthy7013 It's just an abstract representation of a larger group of men. You're thinking too deeply about it. It represents the tighter formation alongside ease of manufacturing. Also, if you think about Cannae this is exactly what happened to the Romans when they became too tensly packed and they suffered the consequences of not being more restricted and compressed. Also, look at the strips in the Napoleonic and ACW range they are touching shoulders too so its no different. In any case my first reaction was the same I thought they looked a bit tight, but I'm warming to it. At arms length I'll struggle to see anyway : )
@@marksfishfrenzy Why bother with minis at all then. Just use WoFun cutouts, or counters or chits.There's always some compromise but here Warlord have made it worse by cramming in too many figures, a change they chose to make from the previous "epic" figures.