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How To Get Better At Goldens in Celeste! Tips & Tricks, Tools, Advice and More!
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Video dedicated to anyone that has ever asked me how I go about practicing difficult goldens and deathless runs. I tried to include as much useful information and tips in this video as I could but if I forgot anything or you still have questions just let me know in the comments!
Resources mentioned:
Speedrun Tool: gamebanana.com...
DeathTracker: gamebanana.com...
Consistency Tracker: gamebanana.com...
Golden QOL: gamebanana.com...
Official Celeste Discord: / discord
Strawberry Jam: gamebanana.com...
Phob's P-Sides Pack: gamebanana.com...
Glyph: gamebanana.com...
Conquerors Peak: gamebanana.com...
Arphimigon's D-Sides: gamebanana.com...
Golden Fails Video: • What 1000+ Hours of Ce...
Intro to Modded Video: • Intro to Modded Celest...
Golden Tiers Explained Video: • What Are The Celeste G...
Top Golden List Spreadsheet: docs.google.co...
My Celeste clears and stuff spreadsheet: tinyurl.com/pa...
Vods Archive Channel: tinyurl.com/bd...
Discord Server: / discord
My twitter: / parrotdash
Outro theme: Suwako's theme - Native Faith
Timestamps:
Intro: 0:00
How to start?: 0:27
Learning and Practicing Checkpoints: 0:55
Picking up the Golden and Low Deaths: 2:17
Getting Stuck and Mindblock: 3:30
Visual Cue's: 4:01
Useful Tools and Mods: 4:34
Strat Finding: 5:05
Getting Bored/Losing Motivation: 5:31
Mindset and Mental: 6:04
Working up to Farewell Golden: 6:41
What Maps Should I Golden?: 7:38
Outro: 7:55
...That bit about practicing checkpoints *BACKWARDS* is actually really clever. I need to keep that in mind in the future!
We use it i geometry dash too since it’s the place that you get to the least
@@jacksonmabry9589Ayy, a fellow GD player!
another thing I'd recommend is that for strats involving cycles, if you don't want to go off visual clues but just go as soon as you enter the room, actually simulate entering the room in practice by always going into the room right before and back into the current room. This way you guarantee that you are not on the death cycle (the position everything starts at after you respawn) rather than in entry cycles (position everything starts at when you enter the room), which can often be different, so if you practice with death cycles and then have an entry cycle in the golden, your strat might not work at all. This is particularly important for chapters 3 and 8, but also applies to some farewell rooms.
You can also use the re-entering rooms strat in actual goldens if you feel like you mistimed an input that would screw you up later to "reset" your cycles, starting the room over, or if you accidentally used a dash too early in Core and need it back. I'd also recommend making sure your strats with cycles are consistent by at least getting the room done 3 times in a row before adopting these strats.
Another thing that can massively help consistency in rooms with narrow gaps to dash through is to use a demo (crouch dash) on them. This will, the majority of time, increase the time window you have to safely dash through by making your hitbox smaller for the dash. You can bind this in the keybind options on PC, and I'm not sure if they implemented this feature into console yet.
Sorry for some of the not eloquent wording, I have an exam in 3 hours that I've been studying for the whole morning, and great video as always parrot!
"consistent by at least getting the room done 3 times in a row"
3 times in a row was enough for me until it wasn't enough, and so i changed it to 5 times in a row lol
Thank you, parrot dash for this simple and effective guide for acquiring a golden berry.
Anyway, time to start grinding for d1d7g
GL with that, it's a *bit* difficult, but *certainly* doable.
@@meta04 Joke - A phrase that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline.
now i can finally get 3A golden
Unironically harder than 7A
I legit got 7c golden before 3a golden
@@felixroux LMFAOOO im back after 11 months to say i got fwfcg before 7AG XD
Great video!
People were needing one of those.
I was already planning to eventually make my own guide, too! I just work in this very slowly and I suck at producing stuff. ;_;
ngl you should do it anyway
@@DeenBoi i second this
My time playing extreme demons in GD has translated to golden berry grinding surprisingly well.
ngl i had a feeling that just watching your content over the last year was enough to learn your ways of goldening
i wish everyone (myself included) luck on our journeys
Thanks, (I'll need it as my computer eats my imputs sometimes, usually not enough to ruin the game, just golden runs) good luck, even outside goldens
well, i started working on 7a golden today, so i hope that this will help me on my journey.
Thanks for the epic tutorial, Parrot!
How’d it go?
I was thinking about making a video about tips for no death death runs in precision platformers in general for a long time now. This was a very interesting watch and you explain a lot of the strategies I have developed as well over the years (and even some more that I'll definitely adopt ^^). I think this video will be a great resource for any future players interested getting into challenge runs! Now, there is one important topic you don't talk about and that is nerve control. For me, getting a hold of my nerves during longer runs is usually one of the most challenging parts and it's something I'm only very slowly getting better at. A good balance between being in the flow and doing short "nerve breaks" does it for me, but realizing when exactly is a good time to stop and to take some deep breaths takes a lot of experience. I'd love to hear how you deal with it. ^^
Also, if you ever feel like doing a follow-up video, I think a collection video of small routing techniques would be great (especially for new players). I'm thinking about a list of very concrete examples of normalized movement, like dealing with cycles, using screen transitions to your advantage, aligning pixels for setup etc.
Also also, best of luck with the platinum!
nerve control is a tough topic, i kinda only just earlier started thinking about that for this video but honestly i dont know how much i could have said about it, for me it has mostly just become something that has improved with more experience, there hasnt really been any trick for me to get better at it, sometimes i do really well at it sometimes horrible and i cant pinpoint exactly why, the best nerve control ive had was at times where what i was doing genuinely just didnt feel real so i just was deeply zoned out, it still just feels kinda random to me, small breaks also only ever make things worse for me as they can break the flow which is like the main thing keeping everything together
also yeah thats a great concept for potential follow up video, going more in depth about strat finding would be really good
I've been wanting a video like this forever i have 8 soon to be 9 berries and i can't seem to progress any further and im glad i have the help i need
ok i finished the video! its actually a pretty good video! you make me want to attempt more goldens but at the same time they can get very annoying
goldens are definitely not for everyone, but they are always worth a try cause maybe you do end up actually enjoying it a lot, and if not, you can just stop !
@@ParrotDash thanks :) currently doing 5b golden and i died really late and seekers are annoyingly inconsistent sometimes so that's being fun, but otherwise its awesome
I died midway watching this while holding a golden berry and had to rewatch from the beginning, great vid!
So useful. I love these kinda tutorial type videos!
4A seems so easy but when I actually attempt to golden it I just choke out of nervousness
nerve control is difficult to deal with! there is not that much you can do about it but its something that gets better with more experience
I feel the exact same way. 4A took me about as long to golden 4B, and 4B wasn't easy. I just died to the last checkpoint so many times and I'm really not sure why. I think I died to the last screen alone about 5 times. Good luck though, don't let the painfully dumb deaths disuade you!
Love the examples used in the video, really highlights how critical thinking can be used to make goldens smoother
Great video, pretty much what I imagined a perfect guide to be. I did copy your progress sheet and changed it to my preferrings in some spots, it's really helpful and fun to edit whenever you get some progress or completed an objective
Hell yeah, needed this vid, on the last 3 goldens and they are kicking my ass!
good luck !
nice video! i think it does a really good job of showing how important strats can be for some rooms
I tired out your strategies and within an hour I completed 4-b golden. This will definitely be my method from now on.
(Also I’m really excited for your summoning salt video)
good and informative video :) process isn't clear or the same for everyone and in my own ventures i have come to learn I really need to be more thorough in my methods as a whole (not just goldens) but it will help to employ some of this advice in the near future.
also jumpscare 5:19 hiparrotdash
2 minutes old i definitely watched this whole thing
I would absolutely love a video on the consistency tracker, I downloaded it once and for the life of me could not figure out how to use it, which sucks because it looks very cool. Also great video!
I'll definitely do these as soon as I get back to playing Celeste(I took a 7 week break because it is the finale of middle school and there are exams and stuff)
As someone who is trying to attempt mango mesa golden (Tier 4) with the lowest death count of 23. I appreciate this advice I should apply it.
Banger video, A lot of useful information!
The wind springs room in farewell singlehandedly stopped me from getting 202. But this is a very helpful video! Might use some of the advice here to golden solaris one day
I guess I worked out almost everything you said from your streams 🙂. I am still not done with harder vanilla goldens, but I slowly progress to do it with less trouble, because of modded goldens practice. Nevertheless very good video how to golden maps 😉
doing each checkpoint and starting earlier and earlier is how I learn a piece of music lol
yeah this type of practice method works well for a lot of things also outside of games
Thank you! Now im going to start my first Tiered Golden Grind, Madeline Goes To Space (Tier 5)
much luck !
Ok I probably shouldve played the map before i commented this yeah it’s not fun, I’m actually working on ivory silver :catpog:
So after 4 weeks I was already able to get 12 goldens (1A-8A, 1B, 2B, 1C, 2C) and enjoyed every moment of it! Thanks a lot for the tips and the encouragement! I always felt like golden berries are way too difficult to get, since even though I can get though some relatively hard levels (like some advanced levels in the strawberry jam), I am not very consistent and tend to die a lot. 2B -> 3B seems like too big of a difficulty spike, so I will probably move on to collecting silver berries in the strawberry jam, which has a lot smoother difficulty curve.
You have 6-8A goldened before 3-8C?
That is unique
@@Gabriel64468 I sure have. I guess I didn't give the C-sides a real try, as 3C seemed way too difficult at the time. Since then I have gotten the rainbow berry, as well as the heartside golden in the strawberry jam beginner lobby, so I might come back for the C-sides.
@@Gabriel64468 By the way, you were absolutely right! It seems that I was sacred of the C-sides for no reason, as when I finally got to them this weekend, I goldened all of the C sides in one evening (about 5 hours - which is approximately how long 4A took me just by itself and that was my third fastest A-side after 1A and 2A). Now I have just 3B-8B left from the official content (and of course Farewell, but somehow I doubt I will ever be able to do that).
I needed this soo mich thanks!
Starting at the end and working my way to the beginning like that is how I like to learn maps with the flashlight mod in osu.
yeah its a really good learning method for things like this in general it can be applied to many games
Thanks for the advice 😊
starting to do 6ag, I have badeline in 2 deaths, this vid will really help with this and future goldens :D
I know this isn't even a real run but the death at 2:06 brings me physical pain. I can imagine doing that in an actual golden run and just dying on the inside.
it was not in a real run yeah but it was a legitimate random death, i had no clue that could happen so it totally could have been lol
real thanks for all the resources on goldens and generally celeste, these enhance my game experience a lot. also thanks for linking all the stuff so i dont have to find it myself.
whats ur outro song :3?
youre welcome!
Its native faith from touhou 10
thanku :3
4:08 I did not expect the best tip for this stupid room to be in this video but I am not complaining😂
Whats the map in the background that looks like Farewell (like in 1:34)
Everlasting Farewell
th-cam.com/video/MY9rP0OHr-8/w-d-xo.html
tysm for this video i really needed this
could you make a video explaining the consistency tracker mod, since it's overwhelming what all the options do and how it works
Thank you parrot the dash I can now do ehsg glumbsup
i believe in you badger
my motivation for 8bg does not exist
Everything seems like good advice and doable. Except the part about talking to friends…
i wish this video came about before i goldened farewell it would of helped alot but at least i did golden farewell
ggs on farewell! you can always get into goldening custom maps still if you want even more
@@ParrotDash i have goldened some maps but i took a break from hard maps after farewell i might start doing a new map soon
we makin it out of power source with this one 🔥🔥
This is amazing tyy so much
Man, you read my DM and took it in stride.
you know im kinda sorry for never responding, i genuinely forgot to
I gotta try this. I’ve been stuck on FWG for a while.
sure wish i could take that vc with friends advice
see its funny because i lead a miserable life
thank you bird :)
i peed on the golden berry ):
GOOD VIDEO
Thank you
>i start fwg and basically figure all of this out myself
>a month later parrot releases this video
kaleb try to time something well challenge (impossible)
I just had an angry celeste moment trying to silver a beginner sc map thank you :D
this will help in doing 7bg for the 175 berry achievement
ok i randomly did it first run of the day wtf
I have a question how can i see the map while im playing modded celeste (2:24)
nvm i found it it's Fn + F6
6:04 @Flamo
The best way to get goldens is to not die.
you make me wanna restart the hell trio grind XD maybe someday...
good luck if you do!
when i try to golden a map,i usually just play trough it until i get it in under 10 deaths. its probably a really bad way to do it but im gonna try some different ways. some stuff it this video will definetly help me with rooms i struggle with. for example,im curently trying to golden the mirror temple b side but there is 1 room i just cant get consistently. there is 1 sawblade cycle part i just cant get down. it feels like rng. i practiced it a lot and i still cant find a way to do it more consistantly. ill check out the discort server you talked about and maybe ill find something
Hi parrot, great video 🦜
Do you have any tips for not getting bored in easy rooms? I find myself dying to the easier rooms more than the hard ones since if I make a saveable mistake I'm already zoned out and I can't react.
released the day after i got fw gold LMAO
yo gg fwg
do a video talking about cct and gqol i cant decypher them 😭😭😭😭
No way parror sash
Easy, just don’t die
when doing segmented runs, is there an easy way to set it so you spawn at the start of the specific segment you were going from
you can use savestates from speedrun tool
Wait is that feature in the golden QoL mod that makes the golden transparent sometimes legal for the goldens list? That's pretty nice lmao
it is legal yes, it caused a little bit of discussion but in the end it was decided that losing a run to a golden blocking your vision is just kinda lame so it would be very nice to just have be allowed as quality of life
Im doing FWG and think im right about to get it so what do you have as a recommendation to do after it. Bc the golden list is so big and looks intomidating, i would prefer a non fw themed map bc ive been looking at its aesthetic for a while now XD
if you want a next step up that is not farewell themed I would maybe recommend like Glyph Full Clear, if you want a challenge but not something thats necessarily harder id maybe recommend like, Summit Ballsside or UFO Nest, something that can also be fun is to just go through a collab and try to get every silver berry in a lobby!
@@ParrotDash tysm ill be sure to try the Glyph Full Clear when im done with fwg!
can i ask how do you get the map which you can use to teleport to places of a map. I've seen you use it in your videos.
Someone knows how the pufferfish works? Sometimes it launches me really far and fast
they give you an extra large boost if you hold in the direction they will launch you in right before the launch happens, also works with bumpers
Thank you so much!!
imagine if i get another golden after like 8 months of doing nothing
As someone who doesn't have a single golden berry yet, do you recommend doing the official levels 1-8 first, or should I go straight into community levels?
Mostly depends on what you find fun, it's best to start with vanilla goldens unless you really don't want to. Note that the examples that parrot mentioned (7p golden, glyph etc) are all quite a lot harder than most vanilla goldens
id say start with them and do them for as long as you enjoy them, but if they start to get boring can always just take a break from them and do some modded goldens instead
You can probably get a good few vanilla goldens quite easily (1A, 2A, 1B, 2B and some C sides), which are quite a nice introduction. However, the vanilla ones have quite large difficulty gaps between some of them, so mods can bridge the gap quite well. Even if you don't feel like goldening any modded maps, they can still help in terms of getting better if you want to attempt vanilla ones.
@egfloggygoggy @ParrotDash @felixroux Thanks a lot for the tips everyone! I've already managed to get a golden on 1A - 6A and I'm currently working on the Summit, which is quite long but otherwise seems very doable. After that I will probably try some B-sides (and possibly the Core) and move on to the Strawberry Jam.
How many hours of playtime would you say it would typically take to reach grandmaster skill level?
I know one shouldn't pay too much attention to hours but i would appreciate if you can tell me a realistic range
heavily depends on the person and if you have any previous experience with difficult platformers aswell, some people learn much faster than others so i have seen ranges anywhere from 50 to 500 hours basically
And this is why i will never get fwg, the simple fact is i dont enjoy farewell as a map
thats fair enough to be honest
Is there a way to spawn a golden berry in a mod that does not have golden berries?
yes, if you have debug mode enabled you can open the console with the ~ key and type “give_golden” the mod viddies tooldbox lets you bind console commands to keyboard shortcuts to make it quicker, i think the mod Golden QOL also has some option for spawning in goldens easier
@@ParrotDash thank you! this helped out alot with practicing goldens on maps that didint have them
its embarrassing how im stuck on 3a golden
You probably have done it by now, but yeah that one was really annoying
practicing for platinums video when?
Do you have any recommendations for after farewell golden
if you dont mind doing more farewell maps, another farewell map a & b side are good goldens after that, if you are tired of looking at farewell maps i would maybe recommend Glyph Full Clear or working your way through monikas d side goldens and doing stuff like 8dg, 6dg, 7dg
Are you allowed to place binoculars in golden runs?
for golden list no, only use the ones the map provides
Ok
If you accidentally hit the save state button the berry turns grey, does that mean you cant get the golden?
i am a green individual
hello parrot Dash do you like mcdonalds
we dont have many fastfood chains over here so its one of the better ones we have, i dont go often but i think its alright whenever i do
Ok
@@ParrotDash thats great but what about kfc
Yippie
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PLITZ
hi plitz, gg first
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Personal question warning: How old r u???
21
I think improving at with the CSR list is alot easier than with the deathless list. 🦜
doing many clears and improving like that before doing hard goldens definitely is a good way to improve, just getting better at the game and learning more about it does a lot