First Look at SIMAGIC GT NEO Wheel - 280$ Game Changer?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2024
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I installed Simagic GT NEO on my Fanatec DD2 with Podium hub,QR2 and Maglink.
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With the cable being too short just stretch the cable. It's coiled and designed to be stretched.
In terms of lowering ffb, just map ffb multiplier buttons.
Also, make sure you have a powered USB hub with enough power to control everything. Usually at least 4w per port.
Great video and wheel!
would you need a powered USB hub if you are using this wheel with a Simagic wheelbase as well?
I preordered this wheel as soon as it was announced.. I'm stoked. Simagic is extremely underrated.
Aside from Simucube, Simagic is the 2nd best you can get. The wheels, bases, pedals are top quality with all metal and carbon fiber materials all around. There is not cheap plastic or cheap materials anywhere, and all the wheels look like actual real racing wheels and not like toys. For me Simagic is the best when it comes to overall design if you want to build a proper rig (cockpit). And prices are not cheap but considering the quality, you pay for what you get...I don't even want to talk of other brands, but aside from Simucube and Simagic (and a couple more brands), all the rest are making overpriced toys.
Agree. Love my Simagic wheel and pedals. They feel really solid with good quality materials, no frills. The software is also a lot better than it was several months ago. I'm sure Simucube is even better, but Simagic defo still sits comfortably above Fanatec for me.@@Foxiol
Agree
I mean not at all really lol. It’s simucube if your rich , then simagic. Asetek is great but they still have 1/3 of a eco system so as far as I’m concerned that’s not a contender. Simagic is the best normal priced gear.
Simagic is not underrated. It’s one of the brands to go for. Simucube, Asetek, Simagic, VRS. Top tier list.
Thanks for this. I have the Simagic Neo GT on preorder here in Canada. I'm so glad I made the switch from Fanatec to Simagic!
This was really helpful, I’m waiting for end of January to put the order when it releases, so I’m glad I could see a honest review about it 💪
I love how this is all new to you AND how excited you are about all of it! Great video with good remarks on what to pay attention to.
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Hyped! Just pre-ordered this with the Alpha Mini base a few days ago. Can't wait!
I have had a Simagic Alpha Mini and the GT4 wheel ( not Alcantara ) for 2 years of rough simracing and they are as good today as when they arrived new . If the GT Neo is of the same standard it is a winner . I also have the P1000i pedals and they're great too, it seems the Simagic ecosystem is getting better and better .
I just got my p1000i pedals and I'm waiting for my alpha mini to arrive, I don't have a wheel yet but when I am ready to buy this wheel will be the one! Glad to hear the wheel base lasting!
Me too. Simagic is an awesome brand.
This is just getting me more hyped, pre-ordered this wheel with the alpha and I cannot wait for them to arrive in Feb.
did u get it? how is it? :)
@sirspecialman finally got it only a few days ago and I dont have anything to compare it to but it is amazing coming from a G29 or using the Simagic GTS Wheel. It looks incredible and being able to use SimHub to control the leds is amazing.
Absolutely love it
Just pre-ordered. Thanks for the review. I actually pre ordered a DD+ but in the process of cancelling that and considering getting an Alpha to upgrade my OSW v1. Simagic seems to be coming on strong! Hopefully their customer service and quality is on point.
This is probbaly one of the best designed and feeling wheels on the market when in motion. Isnt craxy expensive feeling when not but when in use its perfect.
This looks like the mid range GT3 style wheel I've been waiting for! Worth mentioning there are alternatives to the podium hub, such as from SRM.
Or get the leoxz core qr2 knock off which has the emulator chip installed.
I hear great things about Simagic. Debating on switching my whole ecosystem from Fanatec to Simagic
You don't have to switch ecosystems. Only Fanatec and Thrustmaster expect you to buy everything from them.
I just ordered the Simagic GT Neo & Alpha Mini. Thanks, Jardier!
Simagic aint sleeping, good reply on the Moza ks wheel and indeed better than small FX wheel for those with bigger hands,.
looks like a good bang for ya buck and lighter than gt hub with sabelt sw1-r wheel that i use now.
thanks for the 'introduction' vid
We love your none reviews Jards 😂, we’re just the same as you get excited with new stuff 💪💪💪
Great review brother!! Got one on the way now.
Nice review. I cant wait for my preorder to arrive.😁
I love this vid. Not only does the wheel look amazing, but just seeing Jards so goddamn excited is so heartwarming!
For FFB Strenght, there is a setting I always map to a dial on the wheel for AC & ACC that allows you increase/decrease FFB on the fly. I use it to fine tune different cars and endurance races.
Same with raceroom and ams2 im surprised Jardier didn't already know this
Thanks Jardier for making me buy another wheel haha, excited to try it out, also hope you enjoy Misano tomorrow.
This has to be the most elegant unboxing I've ever seen!
I just love it man, keep doing you!!!!! and I'm sure you won't remember this but I said a few years ago that all these Companies should just send you everything cause you're 1 of the top racers out here!
Good evening Jardier, first of all thank you for the many very good videos.
I'm from Brussels and I subscribed to your channel not long ago.
I also wanted to tell you that I'm in a wheelchair, I drive mainly on Iracing, with a Fanatec CSL DD base and I ordered yesterday the Simagic Neo GT.
I hope to be happy with it.
All the best.
Thank you mate! Im sure you will love it!
i have the alpha mini & fx wheel and was also pleasantly surprised by the quality. doesnt surprise me you feel the same way, for a cheaper wheel too!
Good point on the menu button on 2.5 wheel. I also change sens or gain on fly when I get tired also. Also, with adding podium hub to everything did you have to adjust distance on your rig. Thanks Jardier. Great video as usual.
Just ordered one of these! This will be my first non fanatec product but i am excited since you are excited lol. Fanatec has been abysmal and disappointed me with wasting over 1500 of my money so i was super happy to see this for 300!!!!
Simagic bases are fantastic! The Alpha or Alpha U should definitely be something you consider.
Jardier I just watched your video and enjoyed it, as I do with all of your video’s. An easy way to fix your short wire problem is to use a USB extension cord. You can find them online almost anywhere. I have been using Simagic products since they brought out the M10 wheelbase. They sell solid products. I hope this helps with your short wire issue. Thanks for all your content, by the way. They’ve been great to watch. Looking forward to see your races, this year. Keep up the good work. 👍🏾
I just taped the wire to the rig should work! Thank you :)
That’ll work too.😂@@Jardier
Simagic gear rocks, their biggest understated factor for me is their quality of bolts and tools they come with, something most skimp on imo, next try their pedals ha, rumble motor on the brake is pretty awesome
My wheel is from a different manufacturer but it does have joy sticks. I find them extremely useful for adjusting stuff prior to a pit stop, pressures, a bit more fuel or whatever. I do however have Simagic P1000 pedals that I have had for a month and really like them.
The build quality on Simagic gear is first class. Ive done 3k hours on my Alpha and GT4 rim and its as good as the day i bought it .
Big wheel for a big boy. Love the fact that you can move the shifters. Just need to figure out the cablt situtation, this would be in the back of my head all the time unless I'd find a way to secure it firmly with no chance of disconnect. But what I love the most is that you can program all the colored LED lights, absolutely love that :D Bro I need to ditch my T300 soon 😂
Race beyond Matter held the wheel by the cable & jerked it around & it didn't disconnect in his review.
Good part is the the NRG quick release will work with any Moza product. This wheel looks beautiful.
wow that looks nicer than the promo photos
The software is amazing! There's not enough said about what Simagic has done to improve it !
this wheel looks really interesting and the whole concept with making their wheels usuable is great and i cant understand why fanatec haven't done this already since most wheels you can use for DD are so expensive.
I will order this. Amazing
Just getting in to sim racing and have just placed an order on a alpha u base, p1000 full kit, gts wheel and the gt neo wheel.
Really is a good eco system they are building at very fair prices.
@jardier I've ran the wheel usb cable underneath the wheelbase and having the last few coils of the cable zip tied to my rig. After that there's a connection to usb extension cable which doesnt get any movement at all this way. And that of course is connected to my motherboard directly.
Done that too! Works perfect!🤩
You can bind ACC's force feedback intensity to buttons on the wheel, so you can change it on the fly
It's hilarious how big the podium hub is compared to the mini SRM emulator that fits inside the QR.
It would have been nice to see the process of installing the hub just to see how involving it is.
funny thing is the simagic neo gt is there cheapest wheel and its better than almost any fanatec makes.
Thinking to go full simagic from Fanatec . Will do that as soon as I can. The wheel is awesome and the price is not bad… formula wheel from Fanatec is so small for me so I will need to get a 30cm wheel 😊
Great video
for the last nagative, when you have a simagic base combined with the fx-pro you can change to ffb on the fly
Love the look of the wheel & I have the same as you the Fanatec V2.5 DD Pro base. I love it but two things I really want & need is a bigger diameter 300m instead of 280m & the lighting option on the display! I’ve been waiting for Fanatec to come with something similar but they only have the M4 wheel. If this will work I’d buy it for sure
Simhub is great for decluttering your driving screen. Put everything tyre pressure etc on a second monitor via lovely dash
That folder on the desktop 🤣
You can change FFB on ACC with any wheel on game. Just assign a button to it
For the issue of the cable coming unplugged. Just use the old extension cord trick of tying a knot with the two ends before plugging them together. That way when the cable is pulled it tightens the knot instead of unplugging it.
Here’s a link to a picture of what I mean
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How do you tie a knot in a magnet that's bolted to the wheel?
@@regibson23You'd have to tie it before attaching their "mag-link" to the back of the wheel.
@@regibson23 you tie the knot with the usb end of the coiled cable and the end of the usb extension he has it plugged into.
@@regibson23 the problem is not the magnet coming detached from the wheel. It’s the usb unplugging from the extension.
I can not say anything about any other DD but the amount of detail I feel through my Alpha Mini seems amazing. I found RacaRoom to be the most exciting, with the rumble feel of the motor through my wheel. I would suggest trying the ALPHA U if had the chance.
Yeah,simagic bases are even better,highly reccomending to try them
Use a 3D printed “holder” for the USB connection. So that the cables are connected but you can lift the cables from the holder if you need. Cheap solution heat shrink them together if you don’t need to remove them a lot of times.
Currently running the Mclaren wheel on the Asetek Invicta base... This could seriously be my next wheel.
Syced to get mine pre ordered already!
Honestly one big thing that made me switch to simagic was not having to arm the stinking base every time I turn it on.
Have the alpha mini came from dd1. Haven’t looked back at all
the wheel is bigger, yes. But together with its size plus adapter it brings additional weight.
So the base just has to send some more power to the wheel to give you an equal feedback level
The weight in the center generates little inertia, the weight of the QR is imperceptible and it is not as important for the base as it would be important for the steering wheel grips to be very heavy.
I have had a 10cm extender and double QR for 9 years and There are no problems or losses of ffb
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As far as the cable if you keep pulling it out, use Velcro straps to hold the cable to your rig. As far as the FFB change, most sims have a button to map for Plus and minus FFB.. ACC, AMS2, etc. I'm sure iracing does as well (don't play it so not sure).
Thank you for this video jardier.
Hello Jardier:
I love your videos. Excuse my poorly translated English. I also have DD2+ club sport formula 2.5 and am thinking of upgrading to a slightly larger steering wheel. I am evaluating LEOXZ XGT Pro.
It is similar to the SIMAGIC GT NEO but does not need a USB cable, you do not need the Podium Hub (you need QR2 Leoxz) and you can operate the Fanatec base from the steering wheel while driving. The Leoxz is more expensive but it must be taken into account that the Podium Hub (€150) is not necessary and the Leoxz QR2 costs the same as the Fanatec one doing the compatibility work. Greetings.
Nice video! About the cable: I also use a coiled cable and I simply tied a little rope around the 3rd last round of the coil and fixated it to my wheelbase/plate mount/rig.
But maybe your usb hub /extention cable is a bit too cheap? I have a cheap hub were usb sticks almost fall out if held upside down and I also have a hub that can hold an external 2.5" hdd drive 😅
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Some of the features you can map on the wheel lights seems really cool but you have to glance the wheel to actually see them, which makes many things just a gimmick. Like helicorsa i just can't see being actually useful but TC or ABS flashes and maybe yellow flags would work. Seems like a really solid wheel for the price.
Regarding the FFB strength, I have assigned that in ACC to the joystick rotary of my simagic FX Formula. So I can adjust just by turning it for each car on the go without opening any menu or anything.
hi Jardier, with the GT neo on Podium dd2 how can adjust the bite point? I've read that GT NEO with MAGLINK only works with Simhub so I'm in doubt if the the double clutches bite poit is possible adjust it? Thanks
About time that you tried something new. Simagic is a good choice!
Bases are very very good. I have the Alpha and I can highly recommend it. And you will have to change now and join the non-fanatec club. ;-)
I have the Simagic Alpha U wheelbase. By all reports it is superior to the fanatec DD2 and on par with the SC2 pro. Also Simagic quotes constant/sustained torque not peak torque. So its 23nm rating should be compared to the 20nm holding torque that fanatec quotes for the DD2 not the 25nm peak torque rating. Simagic is also constantly releasing updates making it better. Reviews said it was equal to the SC2 pro as of like 6 months ago. It’s only gotten substantially better since. My guess is it’s now probably on par with the asetek wheelbases.
Good video Jardier, Just makes me want a New Wheel Base & Wheel even More ! I am still using my Thrustmaster TMX I've been on for the last 4 or 5 years lol. Would like to Upgrade but Don't think I need a DD Set-up. And don't have $1,000's to spend. But Thank you enjoyed watching, Enjoy.
🤩🤩🤩when you join community races ?
Men, I own a Simgic Alpha (15nm) and I'm sure that you are going to enjoy it a lot!
Jardier! I figured out ultimate settings you must try!
So do the settings you like but you know how you can keep 23nm on max torque? Alright keep that there but on the ffb setting in the software the setting top left turn that down to 60 or 70% you will notice a ton of details pop out. So what that does is it allows the signals to come through and not clip. So all of these details you arent losing.
I got an ultimate also!
But yeah you will absolutely love it. Just please try thos out. Race beyond matters taught me this trick hes been sim racing for 15 years and he dialed in his ultimate to feel like simucube.
But yeah do that leave damper and things off. Keep smoothness at 1 and turn interpelation up to 4 or 5! That will reduce noise but allow details to come through still.
Different cars have different RPMs and redline point. Ofc it would be annoying to change %s when you change the car. In Simhub there is a 'Car settings' (on the left side). There you can change at which RPMs EACH car will flash (in 'per car overrides'). It remembers each settings for the car and when it detects that you are driving for example Aston V8 your RPMs lights will flash earlier if you set it up like that.
I'd say you are an "simracing enthousiast" that tries out new products. Yeah, it's not a review that is completely unbiased. Your nature is not to be negative about things in general. I look to other channels for review, but when you have a look at new gear, I ALWAYS click it right away to see your enthousiasm :)
Looks great, I always wondered why you didn't use your Fanatec GT podium wheel you have fopr ACC. I have the Podium Porsche and Fomula 2.5 wheels, I use the Porsche wheel for ACC.
Is it possible to use the USB C on the Podium Hub as a pass-through for the SimMagic Wheel?
Wonder if this would work on a LogiProDD base. Is there a QR that is compatible?
Hey Jardier, I didn't realize you were running a DD2. Do you have both your ACC in-game and DD2 settings posted somewhere? I have a DD2 as well and race in ACC about 90% of the time. If it works for you, I know it'll work for me! Thanks!
I think on the prize its looks its like the Maclaren wheel from Fanatec, but i hope this is much better. I want to upgrade from my Maclaren wheel i have now. Must i buy that strong hold to it? and its passed to my QR2? and must i buy one usb or its follow with the wheel?
hi friend, great video. can the steering wheel be made to work only with simhub? I mean without having simpro manager simagic. Thank you
Your are the boss !! 🔥🥰🔥
Can you show complete view of your most recent Sim Rig setup?
Awesome video as always. Did you notice any vibrating/rattling, sounds coming from the buttons on the wheel. I have just sent back my MOZA KS Wheel. Because the buttons rattled a lot, it was so loud !!! So I’m thinking of getting the GT NEO instead. Hopefully this wheel has better build quality 👍🏻
no nothing of that sort so far, obviously there might be different answers in couple of weeks I will try to follow on that if something happens :)
But as build right now all rock solid
@@Jardier thanks for your reply. Hopefully the NEO stands up to your testing. Will you be doing a full review. In the near future. 👍🏻
how to set up it up that the rgb lightning works in ACC?
There could be an easy fix for the cable to not be unplugged accidentally: just like customizable mechanical keyboards, the company would have to replace the original cable with an "aviator" coiled cable, where the middle section of it is a 5-pin connection held together by screwing a metal fitting cap on it with your fingers. The other two ends plugging into the device and the computer are your typical USB connectors as usual (or in this case, there is a magnet plug but whatever). Simple as that.
I think Fanatec really needs a GT wheel to fit into this category/size of wheel. The McLaren GT3 wheel is great but it’s really due a refresh or a V3 with better materials
This is gonna be my upgrade from fanatec formula. If fanatec will not release larger wheel soon. They have some new wheel coming, but only ppl like supergt saw it.
Do cables on need to be used when not using a simagic base? Or does this ALWAYS need to be used regardless?
The maglink cable is just for 3rd party bases. Should still connect on Simagic bases via the pins/wireless
IF you are into games like American truck simulator what steering wheel would you use for those type of games?
I'd suggest zipties around the cable then to the USB hub.
Now they just need a round wheel that looks this good for under $300. I've been looking at buying a whole new set up and been going back and forth between Moza and Simagic. I prefer Moza's wheels and that they don't do wireless for data connection, but from what I've heard and read Simagic bases feel better and they might be switching away from wireless data on the wheels(the neo has a bunch of extra pins on it like Moza). I'll probably just wait a little longer, I've been waiting almost a year now anyway.
How's your pace with 300mm wheel vs 270?
Cable tips: during normal racing driving, you will not rotate that much. During calibration: just unplug the magnetic connector. It's not required to connect while calibrating the Fanatec wheelbase. After calibrating, connect and then start the game. Other tip: place the USB connection rotated 90 degrees, so you connect it from steering wheel to the left (not to the back). If you understand what i mean. It means the stress on the USB plug is less and when the stress is high, it is more likely to unplug without damaging the connector. But yeah, it's a disadvantage to have a USB cable. Wireless (Bluetooth) would be nice, but's that comes with more expensive wheels.
yeah I ziptied the cable and looks very rock solid at the moment! :)
Nice
Hello Jardier, did you try fanatec mclaren gt3 v2 wheel? They are selling it for 200Euro and is working with DD2 without any issue just you will need to use it with metal QR2. I am using it with DD2 so would be interesting for me to see your opinion on that wheel as you have experience with other wheels. This Simagic wheel you can use also without podium hub, with just QR2 and Sim racing machine emulator or with leoxz qr2 core which is also emulating fanatec wheel for the base. You will save also some space between you and base as you will attach QR2 diractly to wheel.
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I bought a KS wheel from Moza and I still have to buy the base, I don't know whether to return the KS and buy the alpha mini + neo set or directly buy the R12 from Moza that I am missing
So I couldn’t use that with the new dd+ wheelbase???
Once it arrives 😢
Doesn't a simple USB extension cable fix the cable issue?
hello, does it fit on a Moza R5 Base?
Back lit rgb 300mm wheel is what’s missing from fanatic line up
Test the Simagic Ultimate man! Would be super interesting.
Hi J, I have a Fanatec csl dd, I use the mclaren steering wheel and I'm waiting a new Fanatec steering wheel like your sim magic steering wheel. I hope it will arrive as sono as possible
So since you plug the wheel into the computer and thats how the buttons work, im guessing it wont work on console then?