5 Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Sim Racing
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- I've been sim racing now for a looooooooong time, so I thought it would be a cool idea to go through a couple of things I wish I knew back when I started.
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The biggest thing that helped me was using a controller just on a regular non-sim racing game. It helped confirm I actually enjoy it. Then got a logitech wheel & pedal a couple years later. cockpit another year later & now a direct drive wheel a couple more years later. You don't need to go all out from the get go. Make sure you enjoy racing & driving first.
I recently got into cars 1 year ago because I got board of shooter games and wanted to play most wanted 2012 on the 360 but couldn't so I searched up racing games and got into it from there
I'm still using a controller on Assetto Corsa, GTR2 and Gt Legends and I'm still having a lot of fun. It's not the most precise way of driving but it's certainly doable.
despite playing videogames for a long time i never found cars, racing and racing games to be particularly interesting until two years ago august ive randomly decided to buy fh5 and played it exclusively on keyboard for nearly 600 hours. after getting bored of constantly having to play a guessing game of "will the guy im overtaking ram me or not" i jumped ship and bought AC, a t300rs, and a random aliexpress shifter. its been a blast with all the mods! i even started following some racing events around the world too
im very happy that i made that random decision in 2022!
I thought assetto corsa on controller was unplayable@@achilleconte4385
i have been playing with a controller for one and a half years now and im going to buy my first wheel in a few weeks im super excited i used to play forza with controller that was fun but now i wanna do more professinally so i started acc but its so hard with a controller so i decided to buy a wheel
Having a rigid frame is absolutely the game changer here. Love you Jimmer
Oh for sure 100%. I just got a cockpit and the constistancy in my braking has increased a lot even though I’m still using potentiometer pedals
I wish I had more space to get a proper setup. I live in a house but we have so much stuff all over the place. Tough to not have the pedals fixed.
@@Xirpzy I have my setup (first time getting into sim racing) in a cramped dorm room, so I had to skip out on the fancy mounts and settle for the foldable stand + plastic chair combo for portability 😅
It's not much but I'm having fun with it so far lmao
One last tip I'd like to add; ALWAYS check the replay before pointing blame, you never know what the situation looked like from the other perspective.
True story. My situation awareness was from always watch race replays from the viewpoints of near-by cars and not my own.
I had some habits that would piss me off if I saw someone else doing it 😅
But from my own camera either onboard or chase mode, it wasn't noticeable. Specially weaving before corners to help turn in, which was slow, because I was weaving way more than I realized
@@RadeticDaniel great example
100% this
I'm a bit late but I couldn't agree more with this. I had two incidents in my first couple of weeks of iRacing that taught me this. The first one was getting absolutely cleaned up by someone who had apparently just not braked for a corner and slammed into me, but when I watched the replay I saw he'd actually been pushed wide by someone else, got on the grass (the old iRacing ice grass) and been a passenger.
Then a couple of days later I was going down the back straight at Tsukuba in an MX-5 side by side with someone else and they drifted across the track, hit me, and we crashed. However the replay showed that actually they'd not really moved at all and instead I was doing the classic 'look at the other car next to you and start turning towards it' thing. I was pretty happy I hadn't blown up at them in the chat because that would have been very embarrassing.
And of course watching the replay is great for learning from other peoples' mistakes and spotting your own.
@@RadeticDanielthis, i’ve been realizing how much ive been blocking down akina cus i thought i made the smallest adjustment
The biggest piece of advice I have for others when it comes to learning or getting into sim racing is: Always assume you played a part in any incident you're in. We are all human, we make mistakes, we do things we didn't intend on doing. Whether you hit someone or someone hit you, it's good practice to reflect and see *if* you could have done anything differently. Not everything can be avoided, sometimes it's just hard racing or "that" guy, but it's good to see if you could have improved the situation if you had done something different. Also, apologize if you were in the wrong, falling on the sword isn't fun, we all know it sucks, but saying sorry when you are wrong(on track or voice/text chat post incident...) is just human decency. WE all want to have fun, let it be fun and move on from things.
I'm guilty of all of this myself, and constantly have to remind myself to be a good human no matter the situation or frustration level.
even if it wasn’t your fault it’s good to go back and learn so you can stay out of those situations
One tip you forgot is:
Learn when to take a break! Especially from competitive racing! Kind of goes with have fun but also sim racing is physical. Therefore, the body needs rest to recover. A driver can loses seconds simply from fatigue!
I always say that to people that sit on my "rig" to have fun with virtual cars - Remember to take breaks! You WILL get tired at some point.
I took part in a special 3 hour event and it was exhausting by the end. Found pace at the end when I was chasing my mate down, but my arms and legs were grumbling.
Physical? R u serious, go workout bruh
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@@Jon032391 question: why are you in this comment section?? Have you ever sim raced??
I agree with starting cheap and upgrading as you go. I’d also recommend building some or all of the setup. This way you can make it comfortable for you, and it’s cheaper, so more money for hardware or in game stuff (iRacing). Get a used comfortable seat from the junkyard (or your garage), some lumber and metal, and build a simple rig setup.
Yup, a good rig does wonders even for a Logi wheel. For awhile I had to downgrade to a logi wheel mounted on my ASR1 and it was still loads of fun. It’s most important to get your seating position right, as you are comfortable, don’t get back pain, and get really good stability.
yes and cheap usb controller for making buttons works properly works too, am in the process of making car/truck rigg hehe :D
I don't really agree here. Buying something cheap and used has more chance to upset you than showing the real fun and potential you can have with a 'real' simracing setup. Of course if money is a big issue, it's something else... I personally always buy the best Pc on market, aswell as the best simracing setup I can. Right now i'm looking to clean a room in my basement to do a real simracing room with my 2nd Pc and looking for the suspension thing.
Three years ago I bought some secondhand stuff: the TGT 2 steering wheel, T-LCM pedals and the TH8A shifter. I built my own rig of wood I had lying around. Then bought a driver's seat at the junkyard. And finally, I made a custom handbrake that pushes a button on the wheelbase.
Wheel + pedals: €475
Shifter: €100
Seat: €50
Handbrake: €10
Rig: €15
Total cost: €675
@@888PsyMike888 impressive. But why you dont calculate the time you spend to find everything and build it? I mean, personally 1 day of work during a week end give me more than 700$...
Great video Jimmer! These couldn't have been better points!
Particularly the fifth, for me, starts being more and more important since Sim Racing has become my job.
We achieve the dream of getting paid to do it, we get that burst of momentary joy, but if we don't remember do enjoy ourselves during the journey when you have obligations to do it every day, it can become a little bit dangerous.
Always enjoy yourselves while sim racing, folks!
Seeing YOU coment here makes me even more proud of you both. Keep up the good work
Jimmy, I absolutely love the sincerity and honesty in this video. Too many people need the reminder that despite everything, at the end of the day these are games. That doesn't mean people should just go on track and start driving like a knob. They just need to understand that not everyone takes it as seriously as they do.
I would always advise against using line assists only for the fact that it's easy to focus on the line rather than braking points, however it depends how deep you want to go in understanding and learning a track.
racing line's fine for learning a track to start with but yeah, eventually you need to learn to not tunnel-vision onto it. especially once you get into multiplayer races, if your eyes are locked on that line you're not seeing what other cars are doing around you, and that's a recipie for causing crashes that didn't need to happen
I guess it probably depends on the type of learner you are so maybe I'm being overly critical of that. I just feel it's easier to force yourself into learning the track naturally than looking at the line on the road and never really understanding where to brake until you turn the line off.
For me no assist and old car is to lern how mechanical grip works
I almost always learn and race with the line on. I see how fast I can be with the what the line tells me then use that as my foundation to build upon and try different things.
My favorite track Suzuka on IRacing is a good example. There are many points of that track where I am just straight up not even on the racing line, but that change I found was indeed faster.
Most sim racing games nowadays have the option to only display the braking areas, which I tend to keep on just as a reference since as you get more comfortable with a car and track you'll learn to brake later into those areas safely.
My 2 cents on cost is to build a wooden rig. Get the diy shop to cut all your lengths (preparation and square cuts are key) and it's just a case of screwing and glueing it together. Loads if good guides online. Throw in a real car seat from a scrap yard that you can adjust and you are away (be aware that many car seats are not totally straightforward to mount, but with a wood rig you have all the adaptability in the world).
The only thing that I think is important to remember is that not all junkyards are cheap and the condition of interior can vary insanely wildly by climate. Before I decided to just throw money at my rig I did check out my local junkyard and the individual seats were ~$90 and sliders were another $10-12. To top it off, I live in a very wet climate, and so on top of them being frankly expensive they were frequently moldy or waterlogged since the doors and/or windows are frequently left open all year. And that's assuming someone didn't slash the shit out of it for no reason at some point. And there's biohazard cars which you don't want to accidentally end up with (At least two of them I found while I was there had someone DEFINITELY get shot in it and bled out all over the inside of them)
I think when your local junkyard/marketplace has sub $50 seats and they're just in need of some moderate detailing, they're great. But it's also very good to prepare yourself to budget some money towards a seat, because for $100ish you can get some of the cheaper aftermarket seats. They won't be great, shit they might not even be good, but they'll get you in the door long enough to save for something better if you decide you like it
Don't worry, the most amount of time will be spent on research, install and troubleshooting the mods and apps, not actually racing.
I have dabbled a bit in sim racing for a few years now. There are a few games I play: Assetto Corsa, Assetto Corsa Competizione, Project Cars 2, NASCAR Heat 5, F1 and Forza Horizon, and it's a lot of fun. I am currently playing with a gamepad, but I really want to get a wheel and pedal set. I think that'll be my goal for the end of this year
I have no experience at sim-racing with a proper gear, but i played in rFactor even at keyboard at some point with assists (assists are not bad and very helpful at various times and conditions!) and even did some group B mods for rFactor. But i had huge experience with air-sims back in the day (and started from keyboard+mouse (yes,keyboard,yes,air-sims) to various joysticks) and I should agree with Jimmy about most important thing: DONT AFRAID TO ASK. I've never met so kind and respectful community as it was back in the days in air-sims and I'm sure it is totally applies to sim-racing too. The more hardcore sim -> the more kind and understanding people you can meet there who would share their passion and their knowledge. Because sims are require more from people and newcomers are even more welcome because of that too.
Really good points Jimmer, I love Sim Rallying, first investment was a G29 with AXC brake mod & Playseat Evo for around £500. After driving it to death and reaching its limits for 2.5 years, I finally took the plunge on a Fanatec DD1 Setup with GT Omega Prime rig for around 3k, first local motorclub rally event, I won it, after coming second to the same guy for ages (he had a DD1 also) was such a good feeling and really justified the expense.
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I’ve been playing arcade racing games and drifting in Fhorizon since the first game came out, but I only got into sim racing 5 months ago only in AC with a T300, probably the most fun I’ve ever had in my room! I just recently made the jump to Moza, it hasn’t come in yet but I’m excited for the future
Which Moza did you go with? I've been looking to upgrade from my logitech g920 👀
@@mcr.onwheels I got the r9 v2 and cs v2p steering wheel they’re sick! Very premium feel. doesn’t feel like a gaming controller wheel if that makes sense
I don't really care if I'm faster or not on my DD wheel than on a controller or force-feedbackless wheel
All I care about is that the experience feels as close to the real thing. I want to be driving a car, not controlling one using a remote (unless I'm playing arcade racing games)
Same with me. I like to come as close to a rl car as my budget can get me. Rn I have a moza r12 and it is fantastisk fun
Small correction about force feedback.
Even if you only want to feel a peak output of 5Nm of torque, there are still advantages to going much higher.
1. Higher torque means you can use a larger diameter wheel without losing too much feedback. A larger diameter wheel will give you more leverage so you need more force for the same result.
2. Higher torque increases the wheels Jerk and acceleration ability. With lower torque wheels, often times your wheel will actually lag behind what the game is telling it to do. Especially when something snappy like a slide is happening. Which is why lower torque wheels are typically more difficult to drift with. Higher power motors have an easier time keeping up.
This is why in real world drive by wire systems, the feedback Motor is typically in the range of 60Nm. Dwarfing even the beefiest consumerFFB wheels. So ideally, get the most powerful motor you can afford, then limit its output. Even if you only want 5Nm of torque.
Point 2 was soooooooo wholesome to hear! And point 5... yeah, I must remind myself of that more often... way too focused on leaderboards and shit (doing mostly Rally)
Good vid Jimmy, and I agree about using the racing line in particularly. To be clear, you should absolutely have it OFF for actual multiplayer races because it can lead to be some 'target fixation' and 'main character syndrome' moments, but when you're practicing on an unfamiliar circuit for the first time I find it to be super helpful for guiding me around my first few laps.
1. I still use a CSL Elite wheel. I'll be upgrading soon, but with moderate ffb and 900 degrees rotation, as well as load cell pedals, it does the job. Better gear is more immersive, not faster.
2. I'm "somewhat" of a purist, but I used to use the racing line A LOT in Forza Motorsport. Mainly because I wasn't familiar with many of the tracks. But assists, especially the ones the actual drivers use, are always welcome.
3. I've been into racing a long, long time. So I like to be the guy to help people with setups or driving technique. I'm a couple seconds off the best of the best out here, but I'm consistent, and I can cut a damn good lap if need be. Thankfully the sim racing community, for the most part, is very welcoming. Learn from others.
4. I'm building my simulator collection currently. I usually only drive 2 of them (AC and ACC), but I have 8-9 different sims, and at least 3 others I plan on getting. Trying different sims, you may find one that suits your style.
5. That one's easy. It's racing. I'll always enjoy it. Sometimes it's tough, sometimes it's frustrating, but as Jimmer said, such is life itself. So find the good in it. There's always a silver lining. And just have fun!
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JIMMY NO, NOT THAT CONTROLLER!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂💀
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AND ONE OF THE BEST CULT CLASSIC FILMS?!?! Whoever edited this, deserves a goddamn trophy.🏆
I just bought my first wheel and a simple frame (great deal used, basically got the frame for free). After playing just the trials in IRacing, I'm definitely hooked and looking forward to playing...a lot more.
Obviously bigger number doesn't mean better BUT I went from a T300 to a Moza R5 and just got an R16 last week. Honestly I felt the R5-R16 was a bigger jump in ffb quality, feel, immersion and fun than the T300 to R5. I run them at roughly the same strength but you just get more detail and more fun. Definitely agree that if you're unsure you should go cheap and used though.
Great points Jimmy. It is really important for people to understand you don't need 20 n-m wheel to be fast. More people need to understand the cars we race in real life. Have power steering. So you need some feeling but no wrist shattering. (See Dave Cam a few months ago.) Poor thumb.
In this sort of vibe, I would like to suggest that you review the pros and cons of the cars included with the initial Iracing membership.
(Right now the simmiest thing I can do is play BeamNG with an XB1 controller)
Love the content and hope for more on the Sim Jim mint miata.
solid video, I'm just getting my friends into sim racing, and they're wanting direct drive wheels etc and they have only just started! I always tell them look play the game first, then get a cheap wheel to make sure you enjoy it (like I did, I started on a 2nd hand thrustmaster t150, now on a moza) and make sure to use your assist if you need them because then your going to have fun, and thats the aim is fun!
I use the line because I have aphantasia, so I physically can not visually remember circuits. I find that if I've been to a track IRL, it's easier to learn for some reason, but without the kine it's still very tricky. Working a 42.5+ hour week also makes it hard as finding time to practice is almost impossible.
one thing I recently learnt after a good 4 years of sim racing - that I quite like nascar 2003 :) It's free, has lots of mods and oval racing at the limit is actually quite stressful / fun :D
Just got a whole sim rig today for free, everything brand new, very excited to jump in and learn all this
I'm not an experienced proper sim racer but these are my biggest takeaways from my first week and a half of online GT7 racing:
Might sound obvious but I'd say another important point is: Practice makes perfect! I've been playing all GT titles on and off since GT5 but never online. There's often times someone who'll be faster than you are. But I've won a good couple of races and online battles just by figuring out the right strategy by simlutaing a race distance in practice with race settings in advance. It might take a bit more time than just doing a handfull of laps and jumping straight in after that but if you want to be competitive it's definitely worth it.
Also don't push it too hard. It's a game after all and there're no real consequences if you overcook it so it might be tempting to always brake a bit later and carry more cornering speed each lap but sooner or later you're gonna crash. In my experience most of the time it's not necessarily the fastest driver who wins but the most consistent one. So just doing it at your own pace you're comfortable with should be enough to grant you at least a halfway decent result 90% of the time.
Cheers Jimmy. Still using my old Logitech Driving Force from the PS2 days.
Having a broad taste in gaming, I can vouch for the sim racing community being the coolest.
Really needed to hear this today, Jimmy. Thank you. 💙
All good advice Jimmer. I hate when people are giving someone in a lobby s..t for using raceline, let them use what they need to get faster or better still help them in practice laps. Ive actually down graded my wheel back to a g920 because an injury prevents me sitting to long so no point having a flash wheel but i still enjoy doing laps and getting it out of my system occasionally lol. Keep up the good work man
Here is my tip as someone getting into it. If you really want to improve it takes lots of time, in my experience shows time requires a permanent setup away from family members. I just bought a Logitech setup to pop on my desk when I want to play, I probably actually set it up one in 10 times I get the urge for many reasons. If a had the room for a permanent setup, I would probably put in a few laps almost daily. Now its every other week or so or when I need to practice for IRL trackday.
Hey how u been bro? On the topic of assists and the reason why I have people turn them off.... A lot of it is training and with the assists turned off ( only assists that effects car), you get better driving skill and understanding of how the car reacts. It trains the driver to become better without relying on assists to be faster. Car control is everything and if u can't control it then u have no business driving faster cars. I use a T300 rs gt w/ 7 speed shifter. Under controller I use abs, on wheeI shut it off, Most cars braking ends up faster for me without abs.
I started by trying out dirt rally 2.0 with a controller (to not spend money on a wheel) and then it quickly turned into more and more.
I personally would not recommend assists except maybe racing line or abs, because bad habits are harder to unlearn than struggling a bit more at first.
ive been on iracing for 12 years and still use the racing line when i can. it makes for a good marker even if you dont follow it
I love watching these sim racing vids. Sadly, driving games give me motion sickness within the first minute, so I'm kind of out of luck. Or maybe my bank account is in luck, lol. I could do driving games back in the day (1980s &90s) so maybe it's the frame rate that's giving me the issues now, I dunno. But I'll live vicariously through your vids.
Starting cheap is a very good recommendation. I remember playing Live for Speed in 2004 / 2005 with a Logitech G25 and people playing with Mouse steering were driving circles around me. Very impressive.
2004 when Gran Turismo came out probably 2008 got my first wheel and yes used and used a makeshift chair setup.
2019 bought a newer setup but was still "used" but come to find out guy bought the one for eu power grid and thought it was defective, bought the North America power cable and its worked perfect ever since.
Built my own rig out of pvc pipe with a removable car seat to not have a bulky setup taking up space all the time. Seat can also be used on its own as a chair.
when I started to take sim racing seriously the thing that improved my skills more than anything else is driving on slippery surfaces. It really teaches you a lot about weight distribution and maximizing tire grip.
On the first point. I started on a Logitech g27. Bought it used for about $400 at the time. Used it for about 3 years having a great time. I upgraded to a fanatec csl with a formula wheel and actually got slower. It took me quite a while to re adapt.
I started cheap 10 years ago when i brought my Logitech G27 for $350. Im eyeing up the Moza R9 as an upgrade soon.
Prioritise getting through lap 1 cleanly. In my current season in ACC I've not qualified higher than 12th. And yet in the races I've placed: 26th, 8th, 6th, 5th, and 3rd. The 26th place one was my one bad race where I was involved in a couple of incidents.
Sometimes a rubbish driver will make a move on you that is absolutely not on. Sometimes you're better to let them through and live to fight another lap. I passed a guy down the back straight at Misano, his ego couldn't handle it and he divebombed me in the final turn from a mile away and went through the gravel on the exit as I saw him coming and turned right mid corner to avoid being taken out, severely compromising my exit and costing me two places from cars behind. This guy was faster than me and caught back up. Given his erratic driving I let him through and what do you know 2 laps later he took out the two cars from before that he cost me places from and I moved up 3 places.
My advice get something low end from Best Buy and utilize the 30 day return period. That’s what I did and now I’m with a simucube 2 pro, GSI hyper p1 and 2 active pedals with a sim lab P1X pro rig w bunch of other shit lol
Back in the 70s I raced bicycles, people thought I was some type of weirdo nut
Now I sim race in my spare time, and people still think I am some type of weirdo nut
I'm very new I use a controller but I'm getting a wheel soon I just set up iracing it's so much fun I was a cod players but after trying out sim I'm never going back I'm from Australia and I just bought Bathurst and v8 supercar Holden is blows my mind on how real iracing is.
I'm probably one of the only guys who still uses X and Square as accelerator and brake. TCS 3 and AT gearing. On GT sport I was able to get it to the very top splits on my fave tracks. I wasn't as fast out the corners, tyre management etc but I felt comfortable and had the ability to push and pinch a few hundreds etc. On the wheel even after a whole year, I was 2-3 seconds slower per lap and never felt fully in control, never fully consistent. It just never clicked, yet on a controller I could fully place my car where I wanted it.
I use driving lines to learn tracks I don't know. I don't understand why people are so against them. They are great if you are brand new to a track. Use it for a practice session, and then turn it off to find the pace. Nothing wrong with that at all, and don't forget THIS ISN'T REAL LIFE! IT'S STILL A GAME (I know it's a sim, but let's be honest... It's a game for most of us).
Being responsible means you train, explore, train, try, fail, .... then drive conservatively during races. I am always 2 seconds slower during races and I am fine with that, as I know I rarely upset others.
I got within 10 seconds of Jimmy's Shelby Cobra Nordschleife lap time on an xbox one on controller. I now have a G923 and AC on PC but even then some of the cars were easier on controller. The Lotus F1 car challenge around Zandvoort was easier on controller because I could steer faster and I didn't need as much precision (similar to thee cobra).
I got AC for like €5 :’) on steam…
Dirt VR is the game that I started to take assists off and made me think more when racing
7:24 this is true and that is what i told others people too, you need to drive different sim and swap it often so you learn more and adapt quicker especially in real life
I use my driving line to just keep me focussed. I get ditracted easily and it seems to help.
I'm not fixated on the line either, it's just there at this point.
A solid rig is the foundation, dont skimp on the rig. ❤
My advice is, if you love cars, don't know where to start, and have a PS5, get GT7. It's where I started and I think it's a great starting point for anyone. It has (more or less) every major kind of sim racing. It has road cars, classics, GT4 and GT3 cars, LMP cars, Formula, and Rally. There's plenty more I like about it, but overall I'm glad I started with that
Love this video.
1. Point for me you don’t need to run triple screens to enjoy racing and be fast. Ppl are so hooked up on this triples VR single screen conversation all the time.
About point number 2 - it entirely depends on the game and the car you are driving. In ACC if you drive the R8 its TC is just pathetic. With a week of practice you can shave off close to a second from your best time when you learn to drive it w/o TC. Now in contrast, again in ACC, the new Mustang has basically a cheat TC setting of 3/11 where it has max grip everywhere, in all conditions and never looses speed. It depends entire on the game you race in and the car. As for ABS - on a racecar with slicks it's a must.
I found I enjoyed myself more simply by streaming. I’m not going to snap on camera. When playing along I’d get worked up.
On stream I have the time of my life and laugh at my own stupid mistakes.
My personal choices for racing sims are asset to Cora’s competizione, and dirt rally 2.0
Oceangate controller 😂💀
One thing I picked up from regular driving license study is: "Act as if your life depends on it, because it does."
Driving in a sim directly translates to driving in real life, so you should considering training in a way that benefits both.
That's why I've got into sim-racing in the first place & then it became an actuall hobby of mine.
I can confirm that I'm still slow with a high end rig lol. The only upgrade I believe that can really help you be quicker is a load cell brake. Turn the driving line off because you will stare at it instead of learning the track.
I love getting to sim race in my vegetable garden. Wouldnt be as corny without it.
Dark ages, my 13-year-old self, painting my cars and playing F1-Challenge online with a keyboard, and thinking I could be an F1 driver someday. After that a crappy wheel, some more F1 Challenge, and some championship attempts.
Now the 33-year-old me really enjoys my G29, iRacing, and some really good fun.
What a time to be alive.
3:00 that was dark dude, that was dark..
if want new maybe moza r3 is a good start still get all of the benefits of dd wheel with price of new g923.
Only problem with assists are that they can maybe cause bad habbits
I prefer the saying "DDs don't make you fast, they make you consistent", You can put in top split times on a G29, however doing those times over a 1 hour race is much easier on a DD
This is so true. I got a G920 which I race on a lot. My dad recently got a Moza R8 and allowed me to drive a bit with it. I tried Zolder which I drove a lot with my G920 and within in 3-4 laps times I started doing laps just +0.1 slower than my PB with the G920 and I was doing them consistantly. It took me about another 10-15 laps to finally beat my PB by a few tenths. So yeah I'd say the DD wheel makes me way more consistant which in the end will lead to a bit faster lap times just because you can be more precise.
Unless you’re drifting, a T150 is an excellent wheel. Had one for a short while (to see if GT7 was any good) and was shocked at how well it handled AC. And that’s coming from someone with a CSL DD, Simucube Pro and a TSXW (yes I have issues).
On the topic of driving aids, I think most racers have definitely used some form onfdriving aids starting off. I certainly did. That being said, even now I still use driving aids, but only if they're standard on the car.
Could not have said it better Jimmy. I see a lot of new guys want the best gear for selling it some time later because of lack of time. I suck at racing, when I race online I know I will be last... but I don't care. I enjoy the drive and mostly I just race against AI on my own level. I don't have much time to play , so I don't have what it takes to become 'good'. But I enjoy myself like crazy :-).
you dont need high end stuff but if your on a g920 or whatever logitech wheel then you are gonna need to upgrade, you can get by like i have but i swear the second i touched something better it was like my driving was so much easier to keep consistent
Started sim racing in 1995 with a wheel clamped to a desk. In 2024 still sim racing with a wheel mounted to a desk...In fact it's the same desk...
When I started I was afraid to admit I used some assists. I use hardly any now but I always promote using assists to new people because it’s more important to learn how to drive around the track first, then dial back assist to increase the challenge and skill. Assists or not…It’s all about having fun in the end. Few of us will ever drive a real race car…
I wish I knew that a good belt driven wheel is so similar to a DD. It even offers certain advantages at times (far less kickback/noise in the steering for one) when you are not wanting immersion, but instead merely desire a fast lap time.
These days DD prices have come down so much they've essentially made belt driven bases obsolete, unless you get a used one for super cheap.
Right now i have a fanatec csl dd (8nm) but like 5-6 months ago i had a thurstmaster t80 (458 italia because i was and still am on xbox but i bought myself a pc finally) it was small in diameter, was more plasticy than Michael Jackson's face at the end of his life had no force feedback , 240° degrees of rotation, was lose after some time and that was still enough too beat my friend at short races by about a minute on average (depens on a car) when he had a g29 with a shifter that is louder than your dad snoring at 3 AM. So really all it takes is just to have skill to win. But i have got to say that csl dd with elite pedals made me lern how to properly use abs and trailbrake.
I had to take a break for a few months because I just got so mad at iracing. I just built a new pc and reinstalled Assetto corsa and I’ve been having so much fun the past couple days.
thank you Jimmy! i've been agonizing over whether to go all out on getting some nice gear or just picking up a simple starter bundle until i'm fast enough to warrant getting nice gear. perfect timing! (unrelated: i started watching you before really getting into F1, now whenever Alex Brundle comes on my girl and i say, "look, its Alex from Jimmy's channel!")
That be something amazing to find online, a simple starter gear that is recommended to try out sim racing
5:09 I remember when I first started doing iRacing i thought I was doing pretty well but I kept making mistakes/spin out while being under pressure from behind. So I would hope onto practice server with a handful of people it and just ask if anybody wants to race me for practice and I've improved so so much from it
0:15 This is actually perpetuated by many sim racers. I actually avoid most of the sim racing community because in my experience, these are people who will rag and dunk on you for your choice in equipment. I actually watched live, a sim racer eject another sim racer from a armature competition because they were using a keyboard. Another dunking on people for using a controller. Further on, I've personally been ragged and dunked on for using a G29 wheel, because it's not a "Direct Drive" wheel.
3:11 Again, drawing on personal experience here. But this is another thing that a large portion of the sim racing community will dunk on you for. I use driving assists(mainly ABS and Traction Control) personally because I just like the way the car handles with them on. And I've been called, to my face, "not a real racing sim driver" for using them. And been told that if I ever try to join a sim racing event that they are hosting, they will find a way to enforce no driving assists.
4:46 Just be careful who you ask. There are lot of people out there with a stick up their bum who believe you do it their way, or not at all. See points 1 and 2 on that.
6:37 This is solid advice.
8:39 Yes, just yes. "Have fun, because if you aren't having fun, why do it?"
I've also had sim racers rag on me for my choice in camera placement. I like the hood cam. But to listen to them, that's sacrilege. It's in cab or GTFO. And I know this means I will probably never get invited to drive a real race car. But I'm okay with that. I would probably crap myself and then promptly burry the car into a wall/ditch/tree, and cause more damage than I can afford to pay. I just like the hood cam because it's centered. Well, I also like it because I don't have to deal with most weather effects like rain either.
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love racing in general. Sim and Arcade. I'm just not a fan of dealing with MOST of the community in that space.
I think the footage from Hockenheim is from when Rubens got his first win ❤🇧🇷
I have guys in my league in iRacing with 6000-7000 iRating beating my ass in a folding chair, fanatec csp v3 pedals and a low end direct drive bolted to a table using a SINGLE 16x9 monitor.
Its ridiculous.
Also, #2 - use everything youre allowed to. If iRacing has ABS in the car you are driving, USE IT. TC? USE IT.
Everyone else is.
I just got carx drift racing online (worst name I’ve ever heard) to learn how to drift on pavement better so I could do better in my dirt rally 2 career, I agree that you should branch out and try everything(I’m a sim racing baby rn but I’m gonna get a used wheel soon. Love the channel
for me its the "triple screen 4k 500hz 99 inch megadesk" hysteria.. i can happily race on a 60hz 1080p 40inch single screen and "have fun".. the whole POV hysteria is overhyped, yes, increased POV is great when you need it. but that is like .5% of your actual racing. dont let yourself be fooled by "you have to have 'this' - or you will not be able to drive at all"
It doesn't make you faster, but it helps immersion..
Driving assist make you really slow if you're permanently overdriving the car... (aka: Not knowing wtf you're doing)
The closer you get to driving correctly the less difference it makes..
I almost forgot about that idiot crashing that 1300 hp Mercury two years ago untill i saw the clip in your video. This video was helpfull as i'm looking to get into simracing.
I bought a fantaec dd pro last year for 1st wheel.. i had an 80/20 rig, triple 32s and a buttkicker within the first few weeks😂 it was love at first FFB.
For me, it's knowing that there will always be someone better than you. Unless you are in a situation where you are being paid to race, and chase that perfection. Just chill out.
The thing I honestly really enjoy about Sim Racing, is that it's literally for EVERYONE to thoroughly enjoy, and there's a flavor of it to match every unique taste!!!
It doesn't matter how old you are, where you're from, what language you speak, how ugly you are, etc..
If you do something stupid, it's a skill issue, and you WILL be yelled at in the voice chat 100% of the time. Even if it's NOT your fault!
will come to germany this sommer, hope I can find you jimmer
Thanks Jimmy, I got my second hand sim gear for cheap. It was only $2100. So much cheaper
Jimmer we need some more touge!! love what you're doing btw.
Ok that is it. You are my favorite sim racer. This was very beautifully said.
lol. The dark ages is 2012... I guess my my first wheel and pedals for Thrustmaster and NASCAR Racing 2 from 1995 is Ancient Egypt or something... And, Sport Car GT and r-Factor 1...
Idk I disagree with number 2, I think everyone should learn without assists, end of. The advantages it gives you later after years of practice is huge. The problem with using assists is that you inevitably get too reliant on them. E.g. with racing line, don't use at all imo. Learn the tracks for yourself. Yes, at first you will be terrible, but eventually you get better and you learn a crucial skill, which is being able to learn tracks without assists lol. This is super handy for real life.
Not really a Tip per se, but I just wanted to point out that for basically any category of racing that you can do in Sim, there will be a small Community around it. An example would be the ever growing Togue Scene for Assetto Corsa. My personal example would be the following: I like Initial D, and as soon as I realized that there are Togue Mods for AC, I immediately looked for Communities around it, and found the Togue Union Community through which I found some cool people.
Good stuff Jimmer!
Not having the racing line on gives me so much anxiety. I really like iracing's line cuz its a set line that doesn't change colors unlike other games. I don't really follow it any more, but i feel like it comes in handy when your coming up on back markers that are probably following it which helps you know how much earlier they are going to brake so you don't ram into the back of them
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@ethanwasme4307 yeah I'm still pretty new to racing tho only been into this about 3 months and I jump around different cars on iracing so I'm still learning brake points and trail braking