Is Immigration Breaking The Netherlands?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มี.ค. 2024
- Over the last 10 years The Netherlands has continued to see record levels of migration as more and more people have entered the country. This has caused polarisation and anger amongst some, leading to the election of Right Wing Politician Geert Wilders. Those in favour of him state that migration is bad for the economy, preventing jobs, pushing up prices and increasing debt. But is this really the case? Are Immigrants actually bad for the Dutch Economy?
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Moved to the Netherlands from Hungary because I wanted to spend a few years abroad before settling down at home. However, I'm shocked. The Dutch people are super nice, and I’m so grateful that they always help me out when I’m having my blonde foreigner moments. But my first few months were spent in shock. I had a night when immigrants basically burned down buses and rioted all night. The police helicopter was flying almost all night above our house. Also, my colleague told me that he was in a hospital when a person started to shoot at random patients. Moreover, 90% of my friends/colleagues are running away from big cities because (sorry not sorry, call me racist if you want) they can’t get along with Muslim refugees/immigrants. I basically can’t go out after dark (and I’m living in a not that bad area) because there is always someone out there causing trouble. So I totally understand the Dutch. It’s their country and if they want to get rid of the immigrants (yes I know I’m one as well) I totally understand that. I just can’t understand why some people can't behave. It's not my home. I'm so grateful just to be here. I could never act this way against the people who accepted and helped me.
Absolutely love your sincerity, I honestly was planning studying in the Netherlands next year (precisely University of Twente) but after all that's going on in the news about how third nationals that escaped the war in Ukraine are being forcefully deported unless they applied for asylum & how some immigrants are vandalizing properties over there. I'm seriously concerned about my safety going forward.
Did you just smoke some bad stuff and have a wild nightmare fuelled by your obsessions ?
How about reference to specific reports in reputable media (no, not fox news).. i am assuming there have never been any riots in Hungry...
Honestely, reality is thta there are always problems in every society, but here is the greater danger to you specifically: Orban has around 40-50% of the vote, but how did he manage to dominate your parliament (go check it) ? And what has he done econimically for your backwater of EU other than foment hatred and divide ?
Some people are just entitled and ungrateful. It’s almost like their religion/culture gives them that mentality.
Muslims on the countryside are mostly fine (Except Ter Apel). It is mostly the cities which are lawless.
Exactly, am immigrate, in germany for 30ys i dont like what i see since Angela open doors 2015 they destory, criminal fanatics lunatics jihadist intolerant, dirty ,tax is high,cos of jobless immigrate, now they want kalifat in Christian Western World.
Netherlands is pretty much saying they don’t want anymore Muslims 😂
Exactly.
I have a solution, let them leave the EU 😊
Who does though?
@@salvo5108 Not like we have a choice, look into how the Netherlands joined the EU.. The population overwhelmingly voted NO on the EU referenda, yet our government still joined the EU. The Dutch democratic people are definitely not the ones pulling the strings.
Nobody should want them
What’s the point of economic growth, if most dutch people just want to ride their bicycles and drink coffee in peace??
Without economic growth less influence, less influence more influence for other states. Other states do not follow rule of law, liberal democracy and free love, hence an issue emerges if you want to preserve humanism.
+ no future
The line must go up dude come on mannnn it’s all about the line!!
No pension *cough* luxury you won't get
Because bike prices are going up
The same story repeats throughout the West in seemingly every country.
Yep and it's not a coincidence
with such low birthrate what you expect? without emigration in few decades most countries will crumble down due to lack of workforce.
and always the same arguments , "they face barriers to enter the work force, like language", huh? And polish and romanian people dont?
They could've incentivized the indigenous population to start families and having children with a wide range of options like tax cuts, something that does not include bringing tons of immigrants ( most of which are low status and will prob be on welfare for most of their lives) and changing the/our demographic for ever... and only God knows what will happen after. @@marinostsalis314 what is happening in Europe and the USA is nothing short of treason in my eyes.
@@marinostsalis314 with immigration they crumble even faster as the newcomers start replacing the locals(sometimes passively, sometimes more actively). The moment a society doesn't reproduce it gets replaced, the only thing that slows down the process is being tough on mass immigration from populous countries with high birth rates. That's why countries like Japan remain consistently stable and culturally strong despite having low birth rates for quite some time now.
everyday I'm more convinced that NL and England are just brothers.
Engländers are just sea Germans and Dutch are just swamp Germans
well yeah we really put the saxon in anglosaxon you know
Yes we we are.
Also in the distant past Germanic/ Keltic tribes joined forces to defeat the Romans.
No thanks..
It's quite accurate. If you'd put a Scott and a Frisian next to eachother and they'd speak their own tongue they'd be able to understand eachother for about 80%.
The Netherlands is in shock… euh no, people voted for hin, why would they be in shock?
A lot of us were in shock, remember we don't have a two party system.
I personally voted for Omtzicht who is more reasonable in terms of policy but still basically Wilders Light (TM). Doesn't want to buddy up to russia, sees big issues with immigration and opening up our housing market to foreign investors (which really fucked over our population) and has actual reasonable policy proposals for the issues we're facing today especially with regards to immigration without seeming to forget the human aspect of immigrants. I really thought he would be the biggest party and would take some of the wilders voters from previous years which I think most left wingers were also thinking. So yeah I think it was a shock for most of us, even for people who mildly agree with Wilders.
The polls one day before the elections gave the following indication:
25-27 seats: Labor/Greens
24-27 seats: PVV
24-25 seats: VVD
So when PVV ended with 37 seats it was quite the shock.
because they never give the numbers when they advocate for it. Most european people woke up someday and discovered that it was not the 50 thousands people they thought were coming in but 500 thousand a year. THey make it as a pro VS con immigration, but never talk about how much immigration. When people are realizing that they are going to become minorities in their own countries in ten years from now , they're in shock.
THE RACISTS VOTED FOR HIM.
The delusional extremist left that had swung the scepter for decades expected to win again, and then they were annihilated. They ignored the worries of the people so those concerns were expressed in the voting booth.
Ik ben een jongen uit Venezuela die is opgegroeid in Spanje. Met de post-COVID-crisis besloot ik naar Nederland te gaan vanwege een aanbieding van een uitzendbureau. Na het beleven van ervaringen die ik niemand wens door die bureaus, vond ik een kamer in Rotterdam, waar ik nu woon. Het heeft me verbaasd hoeveel moslimbevolking hier woont. Naar mijn mening lijken zij de enigen te zijn die zich niet aanpassen aan het land, ze spreken gewoon de taal en dat is het. Ze respecteren zebrapaden niet, respecteren mensen niet, behandelen je slecht als ze zien dat je geen Nederlands spreekt, denken dat Rotterdam van hen is en buigen hun hoofd alleen als ze een echte Nederlander zien, waarna ze beginnen te fluisteren. Ik heb zelfs geprobeerd me in de Nederlandse cultuur te integreren, maar dit maakt me eerlijk gezegd erg verdrietig. Terwijl sommigen van ons eerlijk werken, maken anderen misbruik van goedheid door maffia's te creëren en chaos te veroorzaken. Trouwens, Rotterdam Zuid zit vol met onaangepasten, je hoeft alleen maar te kijken naar wat ze doen op Zuidplein...
Uitzendbureau's hebben alles kapot gemaakt voor de hardwerkende mensen. Sinds die tijd is de demotivatie overal om te snijden. Je bent gewoon een goedkope wegwerpartikel die even mag komen en gaan wanneer de slavendrijver het uitkomt. Compleet toekomstloos. Niks om gemotiveerd voor te zijn. Dat was vroeger in de jaren 70/80 wel anders !
Dag luis, als een Belg snap ik je ongerustheid ook. Ik ken enkele mensen met Spaanse roots en meestal zijn jullie cultureel verrijkend en aangenaam. Helaas verpesten moslims het voor iedereen.
Doet me pijn om te horen, maar wel goed dat je je probeerd aan te passen aan NL. Ik ben iedere dag iets minder trots om Nederlander te zijn.
Je hebt echt helemaal gelijk.
Je hebt helemaal gelijk. Trouwens, hoe heb je dan zo snel de taal geleerd? Knap hoor
you are missing the big elephant in the room: cultural and religious incompatibility. No matter how productive they become, or how little petty crimes they commit, they would still see the locals as an enemy. The break up of Yugoslavia and the Balkan wars in the 90s or the Caucasus wars are a prime example that culture/religion/ethnicity/identity affiliation are of massive importance when building a cohesive society
That’s complete bullshit. How come they hate the locals but decide to live in it? It wouldn’t make any sense
Aaa no, those r indigenous people. Not the same thing.. culture and religion rnt problems unless u make it to be.
@@afro_princess1671 Greeks were indigenous in north Cyprus before judaism was a thing, where are they now? cleansed and replaced by mainland turks
@@richardm7713 seriously?
Yes!!!!!
In my dutch city some shops do not even speak our language anymore. In 10 years my city changed from a dutch city to a city where speaking english is ok. Because there are so many immigrants who cannot speak dutch. Our plan is to move out of holland.
Running away wont fix the issue. Instead you must refuse to speak any other language than nederlands.
you wil just move to a place where migrants wi get closer and closer to you becouse it is happening everywhere.
so poland it is then, cya.
When people here start speaking English to me I respond in Frysian.
@@sybrandwoudstra9236 Great tactic!
But the GDP, who cares about Dutch Culture!?!?!? (Sarcasm)
The problem is Islam
Cry more
Sigh... They're not all like that.
😂😂😂😂😂 oh, they are shoving islam in ur throat
No it isn’t. Most muslims are happy to integrate, me included.
How?
It depends on what kind of Immigrants you take.
Unfortunately Europe took the wrong kind. (Islamic 💀)
They take immigrants from different nations. They don't only take from islamic ones!
There answer is yes. Because that now infamous study showed equivalent cost from immigration as the Dutch had made from it's natural gas reserves over 30 years. $400 billion just gone. Same story all over the West.
Wages also has stayed behind for 40 years here in the Netherlands.
Geert is right - throw out all the extremists who don’t want to integrate with Flemish values and Dutch society.
Did you whites integrated when went to America, Asia or Africa. Or you just got rid of them to establish your culture???
geert is a extremist he need to be kicked out
Isn’t that logical?
The reason people hate him is because he has hate towards a religion, not extremism.
@@CatonwatermelownA religion that contains a lot of extremism.
@@pranaav2027 may god bless you with a normal functioning brain.
Europe needs to just live with low to no economic growth. Unfiltered immigration won’t solve the problem.
Yes, because the alternative is much much worse.
Natives zero birth rate also will destroy western European countries.
What a naive comment.
Growth is the first rule of capitalism, if you dont follow it you will fall behind.
@@lilnoir4213
They already have. Don't be foolish.
@@lilnoir4213 Capitalism is your sacred gospel? Capitalism died along time ago buddy. Sorry to break the news.
What percentage of the 64% EU are ethnically originally EU?
Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, Polish, Baltic countries,just to name a few.
Bulgaria, poland, romanias populations over the last 30 years shrank A LOT bcs Emigration
We all know they're not the problem.
really good question, since if you are from afrika but got a spanish pasport you are technicaly an european immigrant .
@@CrusterfunkShenanigansno he isnt ge is an african immigrant
75% of dutch people dont mind immigrants, as long as they work and INTERGRATE to our society. Dont call out our black pete dont force islam on us and etc.
Woke West ☕
joram van klaverin
Nah I mean if black Pete is used as a derogatory term then it should be opposed
i lived in places in the Netherlands with a large moslim population, never seen anyone trying to convert me. If you dont like immigrants than just admit it lol
Don’t oppose our racism boohoo 😢
Yes immigration is really the problem. To fix the housing crisis reduce the ammount of people who need to be housed. Reduce demand, reduce price, increase satisfaction.
It's not really about recent immigrants. It's about a "certain" group of immigrants who arrived during the late sixties and seventies.
More specifically their kids and grandchildren.
What about them?
@@afro_princess1671We could get into that for hours on end. In the most general terms some groups encourage their own to almost self segregate (for example, kids born in the netherlands born of two dutch-born parents will still identify as Moroccan first) any group that intermarries for more than 50% will exist as a self-segregated group forever. There is no assimilation, only demands for the host nation to change.
@@BobbinMcferry and that's a problem?
@@BobbinMcferry yes yes
What's the point of "growing the economy" of regular people don't benefit from that anyway? It's just a few rich businessmen who line their pockets. We should focus on better wealth redistribution and management in the country, and not pumping up growth for the rich 1%
It's not growth, it's simply adding people and businesses with foreign shareholders ans foreign employees as a burden on Dutch infrastructure. Increase of GDP that is not GDP per capita is useless, increase of GDP that does not come from increase in productivity per hour is not growth.
@@DenUitvreter you do know that GDP per capita is literally just GDP devided by the number of citizens? If the GDP increases, so does the per capita (;
@@MiSt3300 And residents and citizenship recievers. So if you have mass immigration, the GDP will increase simply by the increased number of people. That's not really growth.
@@DenUitvreter Bro you do lots of yapping without any source to back it up, most migrants are expats which are hired by top companies like ASML, why? Because tokkies like you aren't capable of working there. So they import smarter more capable humans so we can supply the demand of the market, but goofies like you think brown people bad combined with populist rhetoric and you'll believe anything these politicians yap
This video is essentially incorrect. I have listened to these arguments about how we need immigrants for decades now. I never really believed it and still don't. Japan has a high population density and low birth rate. Like the Netherlands. It also has a well educated people, an ancient culture, low crime rates and a highly sucessful industrialized economy. It has its problems like everywhere. The total population is 125 million vs 18 million in the Netherlands. As the population ages the oldest will all gradually die - that is what happened for the last 1/2million years of human existence! That gradually frees up housing and space for the rest of the population. The liberal globalist elite has managed to convince first themselves and far too many other people that there is a problem with a declining population. That is simply not true. The Japanese have decided to not have immigration - the result will be a gradual decline in the volume of the economy, a reduced population and cheaper housing as the population density falls. Western Europe has fallen for one of the oldest confidence tricks of importing cheap labour to sustain an economy. Actually we are all getting gradually poorer as the assets of the country are divided among ever more people. This is disastrous economically and probably worse - it is divisive socially. Is also very bad for the natural environment as more concrete is poured for roads and housing. Interestingly the arguments for immigration are based on a very human emotion - insurance is based on the same one - which is insecurity and fear for the future. The irony is, that we are bringing more insecurity with every immigrant whilst the Japanese culture and society willl remain stable. We have impoverished our own people by believing nonsense rather than thinking logically about our society and culture in Europe.
That's a very good point, but simply commenting on yt won't solve anything, even though I appreciate you speaking facts. It's time to mobilse and take the future of your country in your hands. If now 1/4 is a foreigner, a couple of years later will be 1/2 and I still think it just might be too late.
Bullshit
Japan has open up on immigration Specified Skills Visa 1-SSV1/2-SSV2, they have a full list of jobs that you can apply for if you have the skills and basic Japanese language skills. Examples include shipbuilding, agriculture, nursing care and other skilled jobs.
The main issue is that they realized that they need taxpayers to pay the aging population and keep things running, or risk economic collapse without people farming, caring for the old or doing the hard labor work. Their population is just too old
There are many bad points in your mini-essay here. I’ll try to rebuke some.
First, the old population won’t just all die and disappear, instead the working population will gradually get older as birth rates have fallen under the replacement rate while the life expectancy of people will keep rising with better technology. This means less people will be providing for more people with our current pension systems. Yes, there may be more houses as the population drops but this decline in population is not nearly fast enough and because the working population must sustain a proportionally larger elderly population, the money left for renting or buying houses will drop as well, so despite lower house prices not much will change there. Also the 1/2 million years argument is just irrelevant since the problems of population in contemporary society are completely unprecedented and have never happened in human history, ever, so wisdom of the past has no use here.
Your comment is load of bs . Japan is a vanishing country and at absolute stagnation since the 1990's . In the next 50 years japans population is expected to totally erase off . Like 50% of the population gone from 120+ to 65 million by 2065 . Is that the future you want for your continental Europe? Their govts have aldready started to open up to immigration they have also woken up .
the footage from 0:28 to 0:36 is actually from Denmark.
I was just about to say the same. I was thinking “uhm.. I passed there yesterday? 0:32
@@0804951a At Nørrebro Station, I believe.
same thing ;)
ja nørrebro
I guess Germany and Netherlands would be the last in my list to even consider immigration.
Language and wages to house prices rate would make this move unprofitable at all
That is true, but most people in netherlands speak perfectly English, it is so crazy that there are cafes when where you order the person doesnt even speak dutch.
@@abdeslamkallis533there are more people who only speak english then people who only speak dutch
You can't really compare Germany to the Netherlands in that regard. On the one hand the Dutch are the best in speaking English as a foreign language compared to any other country worldwide and in Germany it definitely depends if you are in a major city in the former West or in rural areas in the former East.
On the other hand the housing crisis is much worse in the Netherlands all over the country. In Germany just in some major cities but nowhere to the same extent as in the Netherlands. Furthermore salaries are rising in Germany whereas in the Netherlands they are stagnant.
@@neogivxapwntcpaaokay thats just absolutely ridiculous, in amsterdam maybe but not in the rest of the country, not even remotely close to it lol.
That's because you are naively thinking that everyone intends to pay their own way and integrate. The recent masses migrating there are Islamic welfare recipients with no intentions to integrate nor pay for their stay. Same as UK. Nor do they intend to even enter the country legally
The Netherlands is finished. Glad I left.
Lol I am there right now and its not XD in fact we are doing just fine and we are going towards a future that nobody else in the world is prepared for. We will be more green and clean then the US or any other nation in the future. Our country is already doing it without people noticing it because we have to but others just don´t realize how important that step is. Immigranten zullen zich toch well gaan aanpassen omdat ze moeten alleen bij sommige duurt dat langer dan bij andere. Er komen generation die hier gewoon opgroeien en niks anders kennen.
Waar zit je nu?
@@p382742937423y4 you looking for the same exit strategy?
Have you ever heard the story of the reconquista?
Same
It is breaking most countries of the western world.
I’m an American who immigrated to the Netherlands. Does this mean for statistics purposes I’m lumped in with the non EU immigrant group?
Im not sure, it would make sense but we dont have issues with american immigrants like you, its the people from for instance north africa people have an issue with.
No your not, its just that most of us dutch people hate immigrants from the middle east and northern africa
Well yes but meanwhile you are probably from European ancestry, which makes it so weird XD.
Yes. The question is WHY you came to The Netherlands. Stroopwafels, cheese, the weather? You also have those in the US.
@@qualitytraders5333 On the other hand he's less likely to be there for economic reasons i.e. free handouts, subsidised housing etc, and most likely because he likes the country.
Very high quality video! Gj, this channel is overdue an explosion. It’s a very difficult situation that the Netherlands is in. But regardless, things just can’t go on like they are, the nation is at breaking point
Thanks for your comment - I really appreciated it!
Some of the footages are from Sweden. Unfortunately I’m not surprised 😵💫
Swedistan
Expats also receive a lower tax rate on their earnings for the initial five years, causing them to have a better loan capacity, resulting in higher offers on houses. While the dutch are taxed at higher rates.
What nonsense is this?
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 no nonsense, as a Dutch I know my tax laws. Look up "30%-regeling voor expats rijksoverheid" where "rijksoverheid" is our governments core website.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 no nonsense, as a Dutch I am known with my tax laws, this information is publicly available. Search for 30 percent tax discount.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 no nonsese, facts. I know my tax laws.
Just for expats though
Interesting video, but you failed to mention 2 important things, most of these video's tend to miss. 1) There is a problem of culture, especially concerning people from islamic countries, 2) there are other ways to attend the worker shortage, like incentivicing getting kids. The problem the whole Western world has, is that even with imigration and imigrants, is that they also, like natives, not have any kids.
Just like how the first generation Latin American immigrants have more children than the native population,then their children will have similar rates of childbirth as the natives.
It's a feature of a capitalist system in general. Kids are an investment that generally doesn't really pay off for the parents, only for the society as a whole, yet it's mostly paid for by the parents who are getting squeezed for money more and more with rising costs of living. There are emotional aspects too, but primarily it's this. People knowing what they are getting into and choosing not to due to an immense burden of raising a child.
Turned out to be a better video than I expected. I like how you made it clear how immigration / cheaper labor is an economic need for companies and isn't just "charity for the *insert adjective* eastern europeans and arabs" as often claimed
I am so happy for the share holders that the big corporations made it impossible for the average indigenous person to afford to have a home and start a family because they need cheap wage slaves to produce shit we dont need to export it to countries who actually need those jobs.....
Indeed. GDP doesnt matter, median income does.
The welfare state and housing is under increased pressure.
Putting more people for economic growth is an old repeated recipe which doesn’t work anymore.
A new solution most be found with AI and automation.
That only leads to worse outcomes for the 99% of people, and riches for ones already on the top.
@@Kiuizy They hate immigrants so much they'd rather be poor
@@Kiuizy How so?
In the fourth quarter of 2023, collectively negotiated wages (hourly including special allowances) increased by 6.9 percent. This is the largest increase in more than forty years.
Immigration is a big problem. Especially the one who think their religion is more important, strange the come to Europe and not to a country with their own values and norms.
Stange for the country to accept them as it is obvious that they will not integrate and will divide the societies.
what a shame to be dutch
Exactly
What does migrants 'from the Soviet Union' mean when the Soviet Union hasn't existed in over 30 years?
Also Dutch wages haven't been stagnant... in 10 years minimum wage has gone from 1495€/month to 2070€/month... an almost 28% percent increase. Granted, not enough to confront increases in housing prices... but the blanket statement about stagnant wages is false.
in Belgium they gave a year prison to a politician today, he spoke up about the negatives of migration. Now the government locked him up, while rapist and murderers go free. it's a disgrace. IT MUST END
Rip
you forgot to mention that he is in prison for inciting violence and denying the holocaust, nobody is locking anyone up for speaking up about anything, your characterization of the incident is very telling
@@Sebasu he doesn't deny the holocaust and NOBODY has commited violence in his name or because of him, give me one example
@@joknul1Luckily, nobody has committed violence but it's still illegal to invite violence.
@@Sebasusoooo!!!
why are you using stock footage form Nørrebro, Copenhagen, when talking about the Netherlands? 0:30
Thank you for an interesting video - I have to quibble with your statement at 10:33 - greater migration increases demand but does not decrease supply, surely, unless immigrants are literally tearing down housing?
I was afraid this would happen. The reason for the sudden success of Wilders is not related to immigration but has a lot of different reasons, mainly the disillusion of the right voters with the other parties in the shambolic performance of the last governments. The main right wing party VVD having a female Turkish leader also didn't do them favours, combined with the right wing parties not ruling out forming a government with Wilders for the first time.
The anti immigration voters have always chosen Wilders.
You're not socialist.
There is no such thing as vacant job, if job is needed pay will rise until a Dutch guy takes the job puting rebar on construction site for triple wage so it can buy new home and have a wife take part time job only and raise kids. Thats how it worked before policy of population exchange and before corruption from big employers and state.
Exactly. When ever Im unemployed and anyone asks why I always answer - no job Im offered pays enough to put up with the stress.
In the economy the general rule is - for the right price, anything...
Just migrants from Islamic countries. On the streets its common knowledge yet people dont say it out loud.
Ah yes, let’s throw out every single factual statistic and information and decide our fate on emotion, worked out very well in the past.
@JG-MV Allahu snackbar
@Catonwatermelown Irony. When exactly what you say is happening with the religion of peace 🤭🤭🤭
@@maikilreategui1271 have you even remotely looked at any information about this situation or are you just relying on those 3 braincells of yours?
@Catonwatermelown Have you? You should see how many T attacks were committed by that group since 9/11. How many morder. How many crimes. How many procent on the watch list. You are not as knowledgeable as you think you are.
We need to be much more selective about who we let in. More focus on highly skilled people who can fill jobs that are actually crucial. Some companies don't contribute much to the economy itself compared to others that add much more value. Do we really need that many giant distribution centres with low-paid workers? The more companies like that, the more pressure it puts on our housing market, services, etc.
(however its crutial to recognise, this is not an inherent trait of these comunities, but rather a conciquence of the barriers they face in achieving full social integration) [rolls eyes]
NO! The barriers themselves are inherent! You are who you where born and raised as. They where not born nederlander, they never will be.
You can tell them that you consider them to be as yourself, and then themselves will tell you that they dont consider you to be one of their own.
Absolutely not. Every other non native who comes to NL has a language barrier, and even white European immigrants do not feel "fully Dutch" that's normal anywhere, only certain countries are vilified for that though.
All of this discussion about migrants being the labor force to support social security is not feasible. You do not import housekeepers to maintain and economy.
Great reporting, the section on housing did not include the impact of enforcing current EU environmental legislation to specific areas of the economy. Rulings in Dutch Courts have impacted the ability of Regional and Local government to issue building permits without having the required analysis and data in place to locally asses the impact of substances such as Nitrogen Levels.
As one of my dutch bosses said. There is too much empty offices in this country
Moved to NL 2022, went back home to Serbia in 2023. Thank you, goodbye.
Sounds like Canada and Australia
Sounds like everywhere that has some kind of diversity happening
The entire western world.
It seems to only be an issue with one group. I mean, the Chinese have their own Chinatown, but they still adapt to the culture. The Middle Eastern people openly hate the West while living there and do not embrace the culture whatsoever. I can see a violent reaction happening if they don't do something about it.
Wait, the Netherlands needed cheaper labor so they imported it from Islamic countries and failed to integrate them effectively and now it's the fault of regular people and not the politicians regulating these things, which coincidentally profited off of cheap labour housing shortage... I have a masters in engineering, have a basic understaning of Dutch, German and English yet can only dream of moving to the Netherlands out of my "not a part of the EU" county, really infuriating.
Noticed how regulated is the active part of the economy and how “deregulated “is the estate market exactly what’s blocking economic growth and population growth….well something needs to to be done
yes must be stopped
Ukraine was a part of Soviet Union so what's the point of excluding it from the column? Or does this show that from all migrants from ex-soviets countries Ukrainians consist around 85%?
Ukraine is not europe.
1 in 4 is obscene I really want to live in the Netherlands but I'd feel bad living there
Why? I live there right now and I don't feel bad. My family have lived here since at least the 1400s. Migration is mainly visible in the cities especially Rotterdam, The Hague(Den Haag) and ofcourse Amsterdam. Amsterdam is a touristic place as well so I won't recommend living there as a normal person. You can better live outside of those cities then there is no issue. I live in Den Haag and I don't really have any issue. There are quite a bit of diversity here but it doesn't matter to me honestly as long as it works out in the neighborhood.
@@-_YouMayFind_- Will you finally admit theres a problem when it will be 1 in 2?
Naomi loved me for my function and I believe saw being with me more than a working relationship because of it.
She does have good things about her and had a lot of inescapable pressure. Her family never pushed back against any request asked of them and made her feel obligated to yield to all requests.
wait wait wait, they abolished ministry of housing and urban planning? Who could even think its a good idea?
It really says something that so many people in my country just take a side without doing research and blame others for their faults. However, that is not to say that immigration is not a problem. Having more people here leads to more buildings needed to be build and decline of nature which is the real problem, but this regards not only to immigration but overpopulation.
Family reunification can go both ways 3 to here or 1 back easily fixed, and TEMPORARY means temporary so that solution is in the name, and on that already too densely populated so there's that
Fact is the Netherlands needs immigrants, the more the better, we have a low birthrate.
It has nothing to with "are they taking our jobs". That is stupid. "They" are not taking our jobs.
The real problem is this. For the last 10 years the amount of births and deaths are about the same. The Netherlands are only growing this last 10 years because of immigration. About 150.000 people every year (average over 10 years). These are the people that come from other countries to the Netherlands and get their dutch passport, so the "new" dutch citizens.
Oke, these 150.000 new people need a house. Usually 2 people go live in a house (marriage, living together). That means 75.000 new houses every year. Now the last 10 years 66.000 houses a year (average over 10 years) were build. So, 9.000 houses short x 10 years is 90.000 houses short.
Conclusion...The Netherlands is only growing because of immigration. We can not build enough houses to get all the people in the Netherlands a house. So house prices will rise and rise. Dutch people that live in the Netherlands for generations (even 100 of years or more) and pay taxes all this time can not get a house for their children, but the new dutch people can go on a short list to get a house sooner than the dutch people who are here for generations. This is what gives a wrong signal to people and why the voting is more and more right wing.
Yeah no, if we had way less migrants, we would have less housing issues and more demand for us to fill spots for work. We have a housing crisis because there are simply too many people. Families are not allowed to grow if they can't get out of a tiny rented apartment. It isnt entirely the cause, but it is a driving factor that fuels and angers Dutch citizens because they now have to wait 10 years just to apply for renting yet a migrant gets a house with no effort. It was fine 5 years ago, and yet now it suddenly crumbles under the insane amount of demand.
@2:39 "anti-immigration support hasnt really grown" well if you just count the number of seats in parliament for anti-immigration parties - they total about 50 out 150 now, up from about 20 ten years ago. So..
Also "years of ineffective policy..". Ok? Which "policies" does Canada, Australia, the United States have to integrate recent arrivals?
Migrants who lives on benefits should be kicked out.
Those who work and pay taxes can remain. it's easy, no?
Better not provide citizenship at all. Immigrants can work and do business without having citizenship as well. What do you think about it?
@@koushikdas1992 Migration needs to be regulated, if there's a need for migrants, then they have to enter legally.
Migrants who do not enter legally should be deported, unless if they found a job that no one else can fulfil.
If a family abuses the system and receives more benefits than they work, then they should be deported.
A divorced Turkish woman living 40years in Switzerland, was kicked out of the country coz she received €373k in benefits since 2006 to 2022.
(PS: the article said in euros, even though Switzerland uses the franc)
I do understand that most migrants seek a better life abroad but again governments should protect their own population first.
@@SERGIO-cr6uy I have said a point. Tell me about that. You seem ignore that sadly.
@@koushikdas1992 what's your point? Let people enter any country freely and work but don't get citizenship?
Didn't I answer that properly in my comment?
@@SERGIO-cr6uy Where? I can't find. You haven't touched the citizenship point. Or I miss?
All I know from actually looking at the street scene (not numbers, statistics) is many, many, many more non-European (African, Muslim) people, especially since 10-15 years. Also many more E-European and S-European workers. And much, much more crime, shootings, knife attacks mostly (90%) related to the first group. This was completely unknown to smaller towns before the 2010's
That is an excellent question. And the answer is: Yes.
breaking? my neighbourhood of the 80's went from a place people worked and raised families into a gaza / damascus 2.0, with crime being high, most on wellfare and virtually nobody speaking dutch
Well explained on not an easy topic!
Thankyou
I disagree. It is easy. But many people, just give their own opinion and emotion in it.
Get used to it, the natives are disappearing and that's good.
This is not the time to be nice, Europeans!
They used to give residence permits to people who are not willing to work and refuse to give it to people who are willing to work and help the Dutch economy, secondly it’s very hard for immigrants to integrate into society in the Netherlands and it’s their fault because if you want to take in immigrants then you should integrate them into society so they can benefit the state
Please do one video about Portugal immigration problem
O P G E K A N K E R D
The housing crisis is real and bringing in several hundred thousand people means housing several hundred people in houses whilst most people living here are already struggling to find a home.
ruined their country in record time
This sentiment/ rethoric, always shows it's nasty head in times of economic distress. This is all over the EU and it is wrong.
We fight among ourselves when we are in danger of beeing forced to learn russian soon...
what a shame to be dutch
1:24 i find it absolutely nuts to use the Soviet Union as a category when it hasn't been a thing for more than 30 years 💀 it's mixing migration from within the EU - the 3 Baltic countries - with 12 more - Russia, Central Asian countries, Caucasus etc. That's too broad. I suspect it's just the Baltics making most of that number due to Schengen freedoms, why not just narrow it down then
This is an objective breakdown of the issue I have to say.
The statistics prove what lives in the perception of people here.
It is not being proper and kind taking more fellow humans who are outsiders than is possible for integrating them properly. It is exploitative and self destructive
Deport.
NL housing problem exists with and without immigrants unfortunately. 14 years of right wing government does that
Can you be any more naive.
"Right wing"? Only communist party is "left wing"?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 "right wing government" - When a centralist party only made coalitions with leftist parties and never wanted to work with the right. Yes... The PVV is called the opposition for a reason lol.
There hasnt been a single right wing part in government for over 24 years.
I left over a decade ago having answered this very question in the affirmative.
you're well late to ask.
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There are currently around 1 million people on welfare in the netherlands (that is all the different welfare combined)
6:07 'skilled' bro its so fucking easy to work there. Dutch people just dont want it, because we are spoiled lmao
What do you mean by integration? Sounds like more social engineering. How about nurturing the native birthrate? Why does every solution involve more migration not less? This is gross incompetence.
There was a large group of fugitives from Ukraine. That’s influencing your data. These people go mostly back at the end of the war.
Before that immigration saldo was even negative between 2003 to 2007.
Who is going back to a broken and destroyed country?
@@amrivo it’s their home. They go back. Just like my parents went back to a destroyed Rotterdam after the war.
@@jannetteberends8730 we hope so!
1:26 what on god's earth is the former soviet union? Maybe shouldve also referred to the netherlands as a former territory of Spain...
How long can rich(er) EU countries keep solving their workforce issues by relying on the education systems of source countries to keep up with their demand even though they are being affected by a more and more severe brain drain?
It's not immigration that's the problem, it's illegal immigration that's the issue.
Agree
no, it's immigration. I've seen my worker neighbourhood being turned into an 40 % Antilles/30% Surinam crimeriddled, druginfested ghetto.
Nah. If you have legal immigration and its only people from backward countries its still going to cause problems. What a dumb take.
What's the difference?
@@afro_princess1671 Normal immigration: you apply for a visa and if it get's approved you move to that country.
Illegal immigration: you sneak into the country by illegally crossing the border without a visa.
Moroccans have high crime rates not syrians ... Don't generalize!!!!
As a Belgian Flemish, I have huge respect for the Dutch on how their integration programs are compared to ours . But many people don’t understand is , the Dutch are business oriented minded and keeping to themselves. Many many foreigners whom are living and working in the Netherlands accepts those free liberal minds. There is only 1 group of religious people here that wants to change the basic Dutch mindset. Many comments says it. Let that sink in, I see the Netherlands as the US with better healthcare and social securities . But high taxes too. Albeit in the Netherlands, you are free, compared to other European countries
It will ruin the Netherlands 💯. The reason you have had so much success and a utopian country is that you have a tight culture
The answer is no. Our housing crisis is the issue, immigration is just the scapegoat.
It is a drain on the economy.
@@yurichtube1162If you watched the video it's quite the opposite.
It's the mismanagement of the VVD & CDA especially over recent years that we are in the shit.
There were enough indications 10 years back to have enough housing and enough availibility on the electricity net NOW, yet they didn't take action.
Ter Apel never had to have happend if they didn't get rid of so many AZCs over the recent years.
Children wouldn't have been placed out of their houses if there wasn't so much mismanagement going on in our government. The right has messed everything up, and somehow the folk is thinking the right will fix things, when they are not for the people, and only for the companies.
@@Jalmaan Mismanagement is part of the reason. The cost of living, the welfare state and the housing is under strain because of immigration. And yes, if it was managed better it wouldn't had been so bad but we both agree it was mismanaged. Netherlands need to limit immigration for atleast a few years, maybe half a decade even, so it can clean things up a bit. Because the housing prices and cost of living crisis there is pure criminal. A good house cost around a million, I have seen some prices. A starter literally stands no chance, unless he/she gets a roommate or roommates.
@@yurichtube1162It wouldn't have been under strain because of anything if they would have taken proper action when they did. Now people are suffering because our government didn't take proper action.
The only immigration it can stop is non-refugees from outside the EEA. But we need the expats, so that's already a massive amount. That doesn't leave much room, so we really need to look for different alternatives.
The house prices have also been driven up by VVD's so called "Marktwerking" where they let the market decide what kind of houses they want to build rather than zoning for specific demand rather than zoining for specific profit.
Hypotheekrenteaftrek also does not help.
@@yurichtube1162In the North you can find a decent house for around 200k€
Simple answer, YES.
I just came her to say: YES. (as a reaction to the title) Now i will leave again.
ASEAN friendly and blend really well , 🥰🥰🥰🥰 peace no war
Nederland is echt zwaar fd hoop dat weer nornaal wordt
Netherlands in shock 😅, 80 % of the Netherlands , immigrants are welcome, free and open , against fascisme end extreem right ,
I laugh at it being in NL right now as contract worker. There are even Polish stores where are no Polish cashiers. There is everything.
Polski sklep!
What’s the point of immigration from poland?
@@efimc1714 to not be in Poland
@@Zyragonn but it’s not the same poor country as it used to be in the 90s
@@efimc1714 so?
Integration is just code for never leaving