As a Rugby referee I find it disgraceful how players abuse refs in football. We get a lot more respect from players. The threat of spending 10 mins in the bin usually works when I do get backchat.
I did a football- rugby referee exchange. Spent one week end refereeing a football match and the other the Rugby. I'm a Rugby ref also.The idea was using the rugby standard of refereeing, ( not the laws of course) to see if there was any difference for the players. Was funny as hell watch their faces as they were sent to the sin bin for the aggressive posturing, the awful pushing and shoving and name calling that the football players thought was acceptable.The message though went through real quick, that if you abuse the ref your team can be down to 9 even 6 7 players within a short span of time. The teams after said they do it because they can get away with most of the time. What I took from it was, that football players should take up an acting career as they roll about the lawn better than my Labrador , moan more than the missus, and think they always know better. That said. Their supporters are just as bad, if not worse.
I agree with you. I'm a retired Americans futbol referee. The abuse by the players was horrible by the end of my career. I agree with you the players do it because they know there is no repercussions for their actions. I didn't tolerate diving. I would keep play going and if the same player that took a dive actually got fouled in a manner that was in any way harmful to the players health or safety I wouldn't call the foul I would explain to the player I didn't call the dive nor did I call the actual foul because I didn't trust the player. He learned real fast not to attempt to dive or if I was for 100% sure the player was diving I would dive a yellow card. Also, I didn't allow desrespect towards me or other players. I showed a yellow card for that. I was branded as yellow card happy but once you saw and understood it was the disrespect for the referee was carding I got a ton of respect for how I conducted myself and my game calls. I think if the newer referees got tough on the disrespect of the players and fans they would change the game and it's standards.
They are finally. bringing in the sin bin in grass roots football this season, but some idiot at the FA has decided not to do it in the Football League and Premiership - idiots in charge
I try and take methods that rugby referees use in my football matches in terms of talking to players, calming them down and telling them my procedure and the punishment if they overstep that.I have a lot of respect for rugby as a sport in that respect as there is little no no abuse and if there is, it is tame and stamped out immediately. Another thing I like in rugby that would be good in football is the reversing of a decision if dissent is shown.
I never comment on videos, but thought it was only right to praise you for this exceptional production. The research, the quality of guests and the graphics is outstanding. Well done. I hope you pursue this as a career.
Respect has to be earned not automatically given be consistent and get decisions right and be fair. I was a referee and I didn't get much abuse from parents in youth football but more praise as I used to explain to junior players why I gave decisions or if they did a foul throw used to explain how they need to take a correct throw in and gave them one more chance
I don't think I have ever commented on a TH-cam video. However, after I watched this video, I saw you only have 35 subs. This video is amazingly professional. Bravo!
Youth parents are the worst to deal with when it comes to abuse towards an official, or even to the other team. At my u16 games 3 of the 100 or so spectators get kicked out on average per game for yelling at the refs or other boys playing.
I think all refs should at the very least be respected by players. As a fan it’s just fun to call a ref a cow on a “seemingly bad call” But the lack of respect by players is disgraceful
To Alfonso: Alan Wiley the older referee on the video was relatively short and he made it, so can Niall Smith! Height has its advantages but if Niall learns how to communicate, stays fit and spends quality time of positioning then of course he can make it! Barry
Was suggested this vid after going down a Nigel Owens rabbit hole. Great watch. My brother refs. Let me know if ever you want to make a footgolf documentary.
When I was growing up playing youth football Refs would frequently not show up, because they knew they would get massive abuse from the players and the parents. We need to appreciate these people.
What I’ve come to learn is if you show the managers that you can control the game and tell them what to do if they leave their area or give you stick it helps or just tell them to leave the ground then you’ll get a reputation of not taking anything and it’s not as bad
You did a decent job Harris, but you must make sure that your shoes aren't Topman clearance lines that go damp when you walk on grass. Looked a tad daft pal. Other than that, pretty good though!
I reffed for nine years after twenty years of coaching and ten years of playing. I never ever took any nonsense from players or spectators and made it clear to captains and coaches before each game that I wouldn't take any shit from anyone. During the game, I would only ever speak to the captains unless booking or sending off a player and in nine years I only ever sent off two players and I'm really proud of that. The key to being a ref is this combined with honesty and fairness. After two years of refereeing, I decided to only do adult, U17's and U18 games because the parents were horrendous. The older the player the fewer parents attend. So, the point I'm making, is that until spectators and parents learn to behave referees will continue to have to take shit. But not me.
Should have been called "Youngsters In Charge Of Adults" and included female referees. Other than that, some really interesting points made in this video.
If I had a son refereeing and he was getting abuse by any of the kids parents I'd start giving their's kids abuse and so how they would feel about that! DOn't think just because he's the ref that you can fucking verbally attack him.
Great documentary but very ageist . Should be on ability not being a young ref loads of quality refs on the local parks but they won't brown tongue the elite like the young ones .
At the top level they make too many mistakes. The stakes are too high for mistakes such as the Cardiff vs Chelsea game, so don’t give me that no abuse bullshit when people’s jobs are at stake. And not just the players and manager but everyone in the staff.
The most professional amateur short documentary I have seen, well done.
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As a Rugby referee I find it disgraceful how players abuse refs in football. We get a lot more respect from players. The threat of spending 10 mins in the bin usually works when I do get backchat.
I did a football- rugby referee exchange. Spent one week end refereeing a football match and the other the Rugby. I'm a Rugby ref also.The idea was using the rugby standard of refereeing, ( not the laws of course) to see if there was any difference for the players.
Was funny as hell watch their faces as they were sent to the sin bin for the aggressive posturing, the awful pushing and shoving and name calling that the football players thought was acceptable.The message though went through real quick, that if you abuse the ref your team can be down to 9 even 6 7 players within a short span of time. The teams after said they do it because they can get away with most of the time.
What I took from it was, that football players should take up an acting career as they roll about the lawn better than my Labrador , moan more than the missus, and think they always know better. That said. Their supporters are just as bad, if not worse.
I agree with you. I'm a retired Americans futbol referee. The abuse by the players was horrible by the end of my career. I agree with you the players do it because they know there is no repercussions for their actions. I didn't tolerate diving. I would keep play going and if the same player that took a dive actually got fouled in a manner that was in any way harmful to the players health or safety I wouldn't call the foul I would explain to the player I didn't call the dive nor did I call the actual foul because I didn't trust the player. He learned real fast not to attempt to dive or if I was for 100% sure the player was diving I would dive a yellow card. Also, I didn't allow desrespect towards me or other players. I showed a yellow card for that. I was branded as yellow card happy but once you saw and understood it was the disrespect for the referee was carding I got a ton of respect for how I conducted myself and my game calls. I think if the newer referees got tough on the disrespect of the players and fans they would change the game and it's standards.
They are finally. bringing in the sin bin in grass roots football this season, but some idiot at the FA has decided not to do it in the Football League and Premiership - idiots in charge
I try and take methods that rugby referees use in my football matches in terms of talking to players, calming them down and telling them my procedure and the punishment if they overstep that.I have a lot of respect for rugby as a sport in that respect as there is little no no abuse and if there is, it is tame and stamped out immediately. Another thing I like in rugby that would be good in football is the reversing of a decision if dissent is shown.
I never comment on videos, but thought it was only right to praise you for this exceptional production. The research, the quality of guests and the graphics is outstanding. Well done. I hope you pursue this as a career.
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think you may have been born to be a news reporter
Like David Ike. haha
Very professionally done production, keep it up
What a fantastic documentary lads. Well done all round!
Respect has to be earned not automatically given be consistent and get decisions right and be fair.
I was a referee and I didn't get much abuse from parents in youth football but more praise as I used to explain to junior players why I gave decisions or if they did a foul throw used to explain how they need to take a correct throw in and gave them one more chance
I don't think I have ever commented on a TH-cam video. However, after I watched this video, I saw you only have 35 subs. This video is amazingly professional. Bravo!
Love watching refereering videos.
Same here. I like to see how refereeing is going now that I'm retired.
No one cares
Very professional, well done !!
Enjoyed every bit, very helpful information:)
Really well presented - good watch
Well made documentary. Well done
This is superb!
great documentary. Keep it up :D
Youth parents are the worst to deal with when it comes to abuse towards an official, or even to the other team. At my u16 games 3 of the 100 or so spectators get kicked out on average per game for yelling at the refs or other boys playing.
it did feel like I'm watching a 6 a clock news segment, looks good though
You got the editing at 4:25 spot on
excellent doc guys well in
Very very good work brother! Thanks a lot from Turkey.
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well done this is brilliant mate
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super well done interesting documentary on a unique subject. well done
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Really well made video
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I think all refs should at the very least be respected by players. As a fan it’s just fun to call a ref a cow on a “seemingly bad call”
But the lack of respect by players is disgraceful
I don’t get this. It’s fine if your a fan but a player is disrespectful? Being a red it isn’t fun when fans moan at you 😂
To Alfonso: Alan Wiley the older referee on the video was relatively short and he made it, so can Niall Smith! Height has its advantages but if Niall learns how to communicate, stays fit and spends quality time of positioning then of course he can make it! Barry
Was suggested this vid after going down a Nigel Owens rabbit hole. Great watch. My brother refs. Let me know if ever you want to make a footgolf documentary.
When I was growing up playing youth football Refs would frequently not show up, because they knew they would get massive abuse from the players and the parents. We need to appreciate these people.
Très bon documentaire, je l'ai beaucoup aimé !
Salutations de Suisse 🇨🇭 !
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@@no7406 Oui, je suis d'accord avec toi. Maintenant tu peux partir.
Nice documentary. I am a ref myself in the Netherlands and here the abuse is also a big issue. Luckily there is good support.
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What I’ve come to learn is if you show the managers that you can control the game and tell them what to do if they leave their area or give you stick it helps or just tell them to leave the ground then you’ll get a reputation of not taking anything and it’s not as bad
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Love it when teachers set u up the succeed and not fail
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I didn't understand a single word he said when he talked about his medical diagnosis
Was this for a class project of some sort?
I'd guess it's for loughborough University as the purple team he filmed was loughborough...
Why have you stopped creating content ?
You did a decent job Harris, but you must make sure that your shoes aren't Topman clearance lines that go damp when you walk on grass. Looked a tad daft pal. Other than that, pretty good though!
I reffed for nine years after twenty years of coaching and ten years of playing. I never ever took any nonsense from players or spectators and made it clear to captains and coaches before each game that I wouldn't take any shit from anyone. During the game, I would only ever speak to the captains unless booking or sending off a player and in nine years I only ever sent off two players and I'm really proud of that. The key to being a ref is this combined with honesty and fairness. After two years of refereeing, I decided to only do adult, U17's and U18 games because the parents were horrendous. The older the player the fewer parents attend. So, the point I'm making, is that until spectators and parents learn to behave referees will continue to have to take shit. But not me.
Should have been called "Youngsters In Charge Of Adults" and included female referees. Other than that, some really interesting points made in this video.
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Is this a project for loughborough University?
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@@no7406 ?
If I had a son refereeing and he was getting abuse by any of the kids parents I'd start giving their's kids abuse and so how they would feel about that! DOn't think just because he's the ref that you can fucking verbally attack him.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the rules are there to support you from abuse. Use the cards?
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respect and thank your local refs!!!!
I know someone called Harry Foley.
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I dont think you know what poignant means
Great documentary but very ageist . Should be on ability not being a young ref loads of quality refs on the local parks but they won't brown tongue the elite like the young ones .
those university boys talk a lot of rubbish
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ARGENTINE REFEREE 🖐
Refs don't get this shit in rugby
Your pants are a little tight, mate
He s too shortie, he ll never achieve the Premier sadly
Alfonso Alcalá what!?!? Do you have to be tall to be a referee??
@@tobiasbergstrand9335 sadly , but s true , have non sense but its the reality , there are not profesional referee less than 5 foot 9(1 75)
Haha yes there are, plenty...Not sure you know your facts...
@@alfonsoalcala9435 what are you on about?
Alfonso Alcalá what? There are plenty of professional refs that are considered shorter. What does height have anything to do with it anyway?
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Get some rugby refs in there, things would change overnight.
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Those rugby refs know nothing about football
@@kingflockthewarrior202 Not my point. An egg ball ref would not put up with any shite from the players.
At the top level they make too many mistakes. The stakes are too high for mistakes such as the Cardiff vs Chelsea game, so don’t give me that no abuse bullshit when people’s jobs are at stake. And not just the players and manager but everyone in the staff.
Sounds like you’re just looking for an excuse to give out to referees.