Ok if it's a texture error that means that this is a spritesheet, it's in one file and devs usually cut off a portion of it to use somewhere, one file is always better than a bunch of small ones! Though I thought they used a font for text stuff but idk, it does look like a spritesheet tho, and if we know what it is it answers like 80% of the questions
they do use a font. that texture is the result of the game engine or the text library rendering the font into a texture sheet for efficient text rendering. can't comment on the bug, but yeah no it ain't an ARG
If I had to come up with a believable explanation, its because of the force of the explosion. Think about it: V1's camera feed probably broke for a short moment after being hit by the blast, needing two frames to recover itself and return to normal
Never met this bug in my own games but i think i know the reason. I suspect that has to do something with the text (level title appears right on time). Unity has this component called "TextMeshPro". Basically it's just a text box, but in better resolution and it's easier to use it instead of regular text. The thing is if you play with numbers of a component instead of text there will be the whole font sheet. Or it's just a sprite sheet as someone mentioned in the comments
Reminds me when you play an early build of certain games, especially if you sign an NDA, it'll have a bunch of text obscuring the screen so if any footage gets leaked, the developers would know who leaked it. Saw something similar to that screen while playing an early build of R6: Extraction.
Im assuming if your video drivers are not perfectly up to date/ optimized then this happens when: you instakill, parry, projboost or coresnipe (in other words, the screen freezes for a split second), when this happens, there is a white screen overlay, looks like a flash, and I'm guessing a visual bug occurs, which is pretty cool imo And its not possible to get random numbers and letters, but textures like the weapon icons too!
It may be the spritesheet used for the level titles, it may be that glitch and since he timed the core snipe right as the level title showed up it may have a connection
I see this stuff everyday, cuz my poopy pc laptop thing is just straight bad. Surpised that there's like a lot of guys who never saw this before. Well, at some point I thought that these frames are just my imagination.
It is simulating retro games, like if it's too many effects on screen it "glitches" out(at least me and my friends got it like that) , i've seen it a lot of times
this just recently happend to me, (sadly i was not recording at the time) i was just messing around in 1-2 and blew myself up with the pumpcharge, and thats when i saw the letters and numbers for that frame.
ive seen a similar bug with clash mode, when you have clash mode enabled in the start of a level and open the start door, there is a small chance that a random spritesheet portion comes up on screen
I had this happen once while chilling afk in lust 2-1, I think it's just a texture glitch since it's random numbers, letters & symbols each time it appears
the day the update came out i uploaded a video with all 6-1 secrets and this happend twice in the same run. I didnt notice it until people started mentioning it in the comments lol
It could possibly be you going at super high speeds, like, okay, hang on. You going at light speed Graphics drivers/card Performance stuff You do a nuke, making you go at super high speeds, the performance boosting stuff doesnt render the stuff out yet, to boost performance, right? But due to your nuke, you fly by the world loading boxes that load in the rest of the world, that wasnt loaded in to save performance and squeeze out some fps. Your graphics drivers/card freaks out, as it basically has to render everything in one fell swoop. It freaks out, outputs a bunch of numbers onto the screen for a frame, probably crash log codes? Then it takes a breather, renders again and freezes again, takes another and everything is loaded again just fine. I think i even encountered that before, i just didnt notice or thought i was tripping.
you can recreate the second frozen frame where the screen is red kinda by going into crash mode mid explosion (ive done it when the game forces u into crash mode when the level starts, idk if the toggle works
most of the times weird glitches that the devs oversaw occur, the sprite sheets malfunction and then fix themselves a few frames afterwards, this happens in Half Life as well, where you can overcharge the health value with a bug that then causes the whole sprite sheet to appear, crashing the game
WAIT IS THAT AN ERROR?!?!??!!??? WHAT?!???!??!!? I always get that jumbled mess of numbers when I do something stylish and I always thought that was intentional, as to give a stronger impact
ohhh, i know this one! Unity (the game engine ULTRAKILL is made in) doesnt like large numbers, they cause positional bugs with vertex and ui rendering, when you nuke launched yourself you were temporarily given a very large amount of velocity, the large floating point number the represents velocity caused unity to break for a few frames until the movement system reduced the number to be more reasonable. A very similar effect relying on the same bug was used in some Beat Saber Maps. TLDR: Big Numbers Cause Rendering Bugs In Unity
Just a texture glitch... Getting hit draws fully transparent texture colored red-ish over everything you see... But it looks like this texture gets replaced at beginning of level with texture used for text rendering and then replaced back... This operation is really fast, but not instant and it looks like you've triggered hit effect just when textures were swapped...
my guess is that unity has a buffer that it pre renders fonts to, and the texture coordinates for the ui elements got fucked up and covered the whole sheet instead of the individual letters
I had this happen to me I recently moved into my dorm room starting as a Sophomore in college and a friend of mine gave me his old PC to play. I was stoked, to say the least, I could finally play all of the cool games that would come out. His PC came with one yellow keyboard and a rather shoddy copy of Dusk, and while beggars can't be choosers, needless to say it didn't take long until I became bored of beating the game on Duskmare difficulty. That weekend I decided to drive around a few neighborhoods about twenty minutes or so off campus, hitting up the local garage sales, hoping to score on some good deals from ignorant parents). I ended up picking up a copy of Amid Evil, Fallen Aces, and Kyle is Famous (fuck yeah) for two dollars. Satisfied, I began to drive out of the neighborhood when one last house caught my attention. I still have no idea why it did, there were no cars there and only one table was set up with random junk on it, but something sort of drew me there. I usually trust my gut on these things so I got out of the car and I was greeted by an old man. His outward appearance was, for lack of a better word, displeasing. It was odd, if you asked me to tell you why I thought he was displeasing, I couldn't really pinpoint anything - there was just something about him that put me on edge, I can't explain it. All I can tell you is that if it wasn't in the middle of the afternoon and there were other people within shouting distance, I would not have even thought of approaching this man. He flashed a crooked smiled at me and asked what I was looking for, and immediately I noticed that he must be blind in one of his eyes; his right eye had that "glazed over" look about it. I forced myself to look to his left eye instead, trying not to offend, and asked him if he had any video games. I was already wondering how I could politely excuse myself from the situation when he would tell me he had no idea what a video game was, but to my surprise he said he had a few ones in an old box. He assured me he'd be back in a "jiffy" and turned to head back into the garage. As I watched him hobble away, I couldn't help but notice what he was selling on his table. Littered across his table were rather… peculiar paintings; various artworks that looked like ink blots that a psychiatrist might show you. Curious, I looked through them - it was obvious why no one was visiting this guy's garage sale, these weren't exactly aesthetically pleasing. As I came to the last one, for some reason it looked almost like Gabriel from Ultrakill - the same angel-shaped body, gripping a sinner by the throat. Initially I just thought that since I was secretly hoping to find that game at these garage sales, some Freudian bullshit was projecting itself into the ink blots, but given the events that happened afterward I'm not so sure now. I should have asked the man about it. I wish I would have asked the man about it. After staring at the Gabriel-shaped blot, I looked up and the old man was suddenly there again, arms-length in front of me, smiling at me. I'll admit I jumped out of reflex and I laughed nervously as he handed me a Steam key. It was the standard grey color, except that someone had written Ultrakill on it in black permanent marker. I got butterflies in my stomach as I realized what a coincidence this was and asked him how much he wanted for it. The old man smiled at me and told me that I could have it for free, that it used to belong to a kid who was about my age that didn't live here anymore. There was something weird about how the man phrased that, but I didn't really pay any attention to then, I was too caught up in not only finding this game but getting it for free. I reminded myself to be a bit skeptical since this looked like a pretty shady key and there's no guarantee it would work, but then the optimist inside me interjected that maybe it was some kind of beta version or pirated version of the game and that was all I needed to be back on cloud nine. I thanked the man and the man smiled at me and wished me well, saying "Goodbye then!" - at least that's what it sounded like to me. All the way in the car-ride home, I had a nagging doubt that the man had said something else. My fears were confirmed when I booted up the game (to my surprise it worked just fine) and there was one save file named simply "BEN". "Goodbye Ben", he was saying "Goodbye Ben". I felt bad for the man, obviously a grandparent and obviously going senile, and I - for some reason or another - reminded him of his grandson "Ben". Out of curiosity I looked at the save file. Eyeballing it, I could tell that he was pretty far in the game - he had almost all of the P ranks and had beat Minos Prime. I noticed that he had stopped on 6-1, with only 1 level to go before the second Gabriel fight. I remember thinking that it was a shame that he had come so close to beating the game but he never finished it. I made a new file named "V1" out of tradition and started the game, ready to have some fun.
Some spritesheets have certain sprites in them flipped or rotated, i only know this from looking at darkest dungeon files and seeing the sprites rotated 90 degrees. Why? No clue, but given what the pinned comment says, hakitas using a spritesheet for text which is seen for everything that isnt an app or other non-game software made by big companies. the only upside to using a font is it can be changed in most cases by your device's default font.
I was playing ultra kill on the steam deck at level 2-1 bridge runner when I was using the freeze-frame to fly over the bridge then randomly an image of v1 appeared and then my game just crashed i’ve tried replicating it since but nothing has happened
yeah ive seen this too, just a few days after the release of the act 2 update i noticed that sometimes when doing a projectile boost the same glitch occurs, weird
I'm constantly experiencing this bug when projectile boosting. It only started happening after the act 2 full release tho, never had the problem before. I think they just messed something up in the update
Ok if it's a texture error that means that this is a spritesheet, it's in one file and devs usually cut off a portion of it to use somewhere, one file is always better than a bunch of small ones! Though I thought they used a font for text stuff but idk, it does look like a spritesheet tho, and if we know what it is it answers like 80% of the questions
Thank you very much!
@@GoldfisH_ idk what I did but ok np
they do use a font. that texture is the result of the game engine or the text library rendering the font into a texture sheet for efficient text rendering.
can't comment on the bug, but yeah no it ain't an ARG
@@randomcatdude cool stuff!
probably not, there are duplicates on the image
I like to imagine this as V1 itself experiencing an error after being hit by an explosion that powerful
Especially after looking at it directly
If I had to come up with a believable explanation, its because of the force of the explosion. Think about it: V1's camera feed probably broke for a short moment after being hit by the blast, needing two frames to recover itself and return to normal
Wouldn't all of V1's HUD get distorted for two frames from getting blasted by a nuke then?
@@xdarin_ That'd be more of a Lore explanation in my opinion. Or maybe V1 is just so advanced that the nuke "only" makes it artifact just that much.
@@xdarin_ most of it was for at least the first frame, you could say the second one was partway into its recovery
The screen glitching when taking damage would be a nice detail
@@xdarin_ post processing, doesnt it just slap the hud on the feed instead of the camera?
The brightness of the explosion is so high that you begin to see the reflection of your "machine brains" from your own lens.
You accidentally tapped into V1's brain
i love early builds of games for random glitches like this
0:20 oh hey look im in the video
your arm? huge fist, your charge? huge dark fist. your weapon? beat them to death. your name is alth. punch to destroy.
This is giving Something Wicked a run for their money, and its just letters and numbers.
thank you goldfish
THE NUMBERS, MACHINE,
"WHAT DO THE NUMBERS MEAN, V1!!!"
You can see this glitch show up on the Dumpster Man Extra video of his stream playing Act II at 35:23 to 35:24
Link to the video: m.th-cam.com/video/i_V5JGC2mdc/w-d-xo.html
Never met this bug in my own games but i think i know the reason.
I suspect that has to do something with the text (level title appears right on time).
Unity has this component called "TextMeshPro". Basically it's just a text box, but in better resolution and it's easier to use it instead of regular text.
The thing is if you play with numbers of a component instead of text there will be the whole font sheet.
Or it's just a sprite sheet as someone mentioned in the comments
Also UI sprites frick out. I'm 100% sure that's the font bug
"The numbers, Mason. What do they mean?"
got v1 hit so hard by that explosion he broke for a second
im personal friends with debatable and its so funny seeing him always go "yea it does that sometimes" to almost every bug ever
Despite it being nothing but drivers issue, I fucking love it.
ULTRAKILL fans when they see a minor texture error: OMG ARG!1!!!1
same with people playground fans
THE NUMBERS MASON
Never play ultrakill at 3AM (gone sexual)
Reminds me when you play an early build of certain games, especially if you sign an NDA, it'll have a bunch of text obscuring the screen so if any footage gets leaked, the developers would know who leaked it. Saw something similar to that screen while playing an early build of R6: Extraction.
every copy of ultrakill is personalized
THE NUMBERS MASON, WHAT DO THEY MEAN!!!
the numbers, mason
I FUCKING KNEW IT
I knew I wasn't seeing things , yeah that usually happens during large ish explosions that "freezeframe"
Discovered this months ago but just thought it was some cool feature
Congrats, you found a secret! Now, something wicked this way comes is permanent!
@@thatoneguy487 Intruder: Extreme
@@thatoneguy487 p-2 with SW chasing you 😈
next time im on ultrakill ima try find this bug because it looks funky
that's what happen to every robot when they getting hit or something like that. as for my logic
Im assuming if your video drivers are not perfectly up to date/ optimized then this happens when: you instakill, parry, projboost or coresnipe (in other words, the screen freezes for a split second), when this happens, there is a white screen overlay, looks like a flash, and I'm guessing a visual bug occurs, which is pretty cool imo
And its not possible to get random numbers and letters, but textures like the weapon icons too!
No, its intentional, its called a "FreezeFrame" and gives your brain dopamine for pulling off cool shiz.
It may be the spritesheet used for the level titles, it may be that glitch and since he timed the core snipe right as the level title showed up it may have a connection
Woah! Really Grata gd? Thank you!!
i see this all the time while playing, still rocking that 13 year old cpu that once used to run windows xp
I see this stuff everyday, cuz my poopy pc laptop thing is just straight bad. Surpised that there's like a lot of guys who never saw this before.
Well, at some point I thought that these frames are just my imagination.
green fist weapon gang
Wait the Charge had a QR code even the arm
0:08
here's it again but with a cross
0:12 (edit: their not QR codes don't start scanning)
not a QR code
@@ryrieee oh well
I noticed that they are all the same "sprite", every single letter, number, or symbol is in the same place when the texture gets bugged.
@@GoldfisH_ Huh the more you know
I tought I became insane cause I started to see symbols and numbers in explosions
It's a hint to size 2! I have to see I have to know
It is simulating retro games, like if it's too many effects on screen it "glitches" out(at least me and my friends got it like that) , i've seen it a lot of times
i'd like to think its v2's head getting damage causing his visuals to glitch for a second but it could also be a bug
glad to know someone else had this happen to them, thought one of my components was deteriorating
Ive had this happen SEVERAL times before but never payed any mind to it
THE NUMBERS V1! WHAT DO THEY MEAN!?
wide green fist after the numbers
THE NUMBERS MASON
WHAT DO THEY MEAN!!!
this just recently happend to me, (sadly i was not recording at the time) i was just messing around in 1-2 and blew myself up with the pumpcharge, and thats when i saw the letters and numbers for that frame.
ive seen a similar bug with clash mode, when you have clash mode enabled in the start of a level and open the start door, there is a small chance that a random spritesheet portion comes up on screen
I had this happen once while chilling afk in lust 2-1, I think it's just a texture glitch since it's random numbers, letters & symbols each time it appears
the day the update came out i uploaded a video with all 6-1 secrets and this happend twice in the same run. I didnt notice it until people started mentioning it in the comments lol
You flung V1 so fast his camera bugged out for a second.
bro, that hapen to me literal every projectile-boost and is extremely frequent in any other type of explosion
OH MY GOD, SO IT WASN'T JUST ME? I WAS SEEING RANDOM FLASHES OF LETTERS ON THE SCREEN AND I THOUGHT I WAS GOING INSANE
Randomly happened to me on 6-1 once, right after a parry hitstop
It could possibly be you going at super high speeds, like, okay, hang on.
You going at light speed
Graphics drivers/card
Performance stuff
You do a nuke, making you go at super high speeds, the performance boosting stuff doesnt render the stuff out yet, to boost performance, right?
But due to your nuke, you fly by the world loading boxes that load in the rest of the world, that wasnt loaded in to save performance and squeeze out some fps.
Your graphics drivers/card freaks out, as it basically has to render everything in one fell swoop. It freaks out, outputs a bunch of numbers onto the screen for a frame, probably crash log codes? Then it takes a breather, renders again and freezes again, takes another and everything is loaded again just fine.
I think i even encountered that before, i just didnt notice or thought i was tripping.
The numbers mason
the numbers
yeah its just a glitch that sometimes happens only ever seen it like twice
Thats creepy
It's probably a texture error. I've also seen something like this pop up in, oddly enough, Pokemon GO
you can recreate the second frozen frame where the screen is red kinda by going into crash mode mid explosion (ive done it when the game forces u into crash mode when the level starts, idk if the toggle works
Wonder how people never seen it because everytime i play i see it
Its usally caused by explosions and if your lucky a red one might appear
i might of seen it before but not noticed
THE NUMBERS V1, WHAT DO THEY MEAN?
the weapon turned into a green fist lol
most of the times weird glitches that the devs oversaw occur, the sprite sheets malfunction and then fix themselves a few frames afterwards, this happens in Half Life as well, where you can overcharge the health value with a bug that then causes the whole sprite sheet to appear, crashing the game
WAIT IS THAT AN ERROR?!?!??!!??? WHAT?!???!??!!?
I always get that jumbled mess of numbers when I do something stylish and I always thought that was intentional, as to give a stronger impact
this can sometimes show when u get any freezeframe like a parry or proj boost iirc
ohhh, i know this one! Unity (the game engine ULTRAKILL is made in) doesnt like large numbers, they cause positional bugs with vertex and ui rendering, when you nuke launched yourself you were temporarily given a very large amount of velocity, the large floating point number the represents velocity caused unity to break for a few frames until the movement system reduced the number to be more reasonable. A very similar effect relying on the same bug was used in some Beat Saber Maps.
TLDR: Big Numbers Cause Rendering Bugs In Unity
TLDR: big number = unity scawed
you exploded so hard, V1s optic cable twitched in a bad way. you may have to claim your warranty if you still have it
my guess is that you somehow made ultrakill not display a correct texture and made it display a sheet of all the symbols in the font ultrakill uses
It looks cool so it is a feature
the numbers mason, what are the numbers
I have a not so great computer and it happens whenever my game lags with an explosion of some sort. Maybe it’s some form of error screen
happens to me consistently I don really mind it tho
Just a texture glitch... Getting hit draws fully transparent texture colored red-ish over everything you see... But it looks like this texture gets replaced at beginning of level with texture used for text rendering and then replaced back... This operation is really fast, but not instant and it looks like you've triggered hit effect just when textures were swapped...
Texture error.
The game probs messed up and replaced some textures.
(Most likely, what you saw is the text font base used for, well, texts.)
I'm playing Ultrakill on Intel Duo 2,4 Ram,GT 9600 and I have 2 times this showed up after that game was crushed i don't know why this shows
my guess is that unity has a buffer that it pre renders fonts to, and the texture coordinates for the ui elements got fucked up and covered the whole sheet instead of the individual letters
peep the horror
it happens to me during nukes
The numbers V1 WHAT DO THEY MEAN
sleeper agent activator
It happens quite a lot to me
nahhh v1's camera broke for a sec
I had this happen to me
I recently moved into my dorm room starting as a Sophomore in college and a friend of mine gave me his old PC to play. I was stoked, to say the least, I could finally play all of the cool games that would come out. His PC came with one yellow keyboard and a rather shoddy copy of Dusk, and while beggars can't be choosers, needless to say it didn't take long until I became bored of beating the game on Duskmare difficulty.
That weekend I decided to drive around a few neighborhoods about twenty minutes or so off campus, hitting up the local garage sales, hoping to score on some good deals from ignorant parents). I ended up picking up a copy of Amid Evil, Fallen Aces, and Kyle is Famous (fuck yeah) for two dollars. Satisfied, I began to drive out of the neighborhood when one last house caught my attention. I still have no idea why it did, there were no cars there and only one table was set up with random junk on it, but something sort of drew me there. I usually trust my gut on these things so I got out of the car and I was greeted by an old man. His outward appearance was, for lack of a better word, displeasing. It was odd, if you asked me to tell you why I thought he was displeasing, I couldn't really pinpoint anything - there was just something about him that put me on edge, I can't explain it. All I can tell you is that if it wasn't in the middle of the afternoon and there were other people within shouting distance, I would not have even thought of approaching this man.
He flashed a crooked smiled at me and asked what I was looking for, and immediately I noticed that he must be blind in one of his eyes; his right eye had that "glazed over" look about it. I forced myself to look to his left eye instead, trying not to offend, and asked him if he had any video games.
I was already wondering how I could politely excuse myself from the situation when he would tell me he had no idea what a video game was, but to my surprise he said he had a few ones in an old box. He assured me he'd be back in a "jiffy" and turned to head back into the garage. As I watched him hobble away, I couldn't help but notice what he was selling on his table. Littered across his table were rather… peculiar paintings; various artworks that looked like ink blots that a psychiatrist might show you. Curious, I looked through them - it was obvious why no one was visiting this guy's garage sale, these weren't exactly aesthetically pleasing. As I came to the last one, for some reason it looked almost like Gabriel from Ultrakill - the same angel-shaped body, gripping a sinner by the throat. Initially I just thought that since I was secretly hoping to find that game at these garage sales, some Freudian bullshit was projecting itself into the ink blots, but given the events that happened afterward I'm not so sure now. I should have asked the man about it. I wish I would have asked the man about it.
After staring at the Gabriel-shaped blot, I looked up and the old man was suddenly there again, arms-length in front of me, smiling at me. I'll admit I jumped out of reflex and I laughed nervously as he handed me a Steam key. It was the standard grey color, except that someone had written Ultrakill on it in black permanent marker. I got butterflies in my stomach as I realized what a coincidence this was and asked him how much he wanted for it.
The old man smiled at me and told me that I could have it for free, that it used to belong to a kid who was about my age that didn't live here anymore. There was something weird about how the man phrased that, but I didn't really pay any attention to then, I was too caught up in not only finding this game but getting it for free.
I reminded myself to be a bit skeptical since this looked like a pretty shady key and there's no guarantee it would work, but then the optimist inside me interjected that maybe it was some kind of beta version or pirated version of the game and that was all I needed to be back on cloud nine. I thanked the man and the man smiled at me and wished me well, saying "Goodbye then!" - at least that's what it sounded like to me. All the way in the car-ride home, I had a nagging doubt that the man had said something else. My fears were confirmed when I booted up the game (to my surprise it worked just fine) and there was one save file named simply "BEN". "Goodbye Ben", he was saying "Goodbye Ben". I felt bad for the man, obviously a grandparent and obviously going senile, and I - for some reason or another - reminded him of his grandson "Ben".
Out of curiosity I looked at the save file. Eyeballing it, I could tell that he was pretty far in the game - he had almost all of the P ranks and had beat Minos Prime. I noticed that he had stopped on 6-1, with only 1 level to go before the second Gabriel fight. I remember thinking that it was a shame that he had come so close to beating the game but he never finished it. I made a new file named "V1" out of tradition and started the game, ready to have some fun.
Bro drowned in wrath
@@Xyddian Man tried to [+ DOWN TO SIZE] Leviathan
damn bro i'll recognize this text anywhere
this some creepy pasta bullshit fr
what debatable is saying is debatable
Pretty normal to me since i play on 30 Fps whit so many freezeframes.
The numbers....
The numbers Mason, What do they mean?
THE NUMBERS MASON, WHAT DO THEY MEAN
happens all the time to me; also sometimes the trails freak out? likely a graphical error on Unity’s part
WHERE ARE THE NUMBERS MASON
*WHAT DO THE NUMBERS MEAN MASON*
youve seen crazy shit man crazy shit
Some spritesheets have certain sprites in them flipped or rotated, i only know this from looking at darkest dungeon files and seeing the sprites rotated 90 degrees. Why? No clue, but given what the pinned comment says, hakitas using a spritesheet for text which is seen for everything that isnt an app or other non-game software made by big companies. the only upside to using a font is it can be changed in most cases by your device's default font.
I was playing ultra kill on the steam deck at level 2-1 bridge runner when I was using the freeze-frame to fly over the bridge then randomly an image of v1 appeared and then my game just crashed i’ve tried replicating it since but nothing has happened
v1 jumpscare
yeah ive seen this too, just a few days after the release of the act 2 update i noticed that sometimes when doing a projectile boost the same glitch occurs, weird
i think it's just a graphical issue, i have these after almost every explosion
Yeah it just happens nothing else to see or find here totally.
I've experienced stuff like this all the time, usually when pro-boosting but I've not kept track.
im getting this almost everytime
I'm constantly experiencing this bug when projectile boosting. It only started happening after the act 2 full release tho, never had the problem before. I think they just messed something up in the update
top comment says its the force of the explosion causes v1 camera to interface
maybe it is a hidden detail to this game
i have a not so good laptop and i see this semi frequently, i didnt think it was something hidden or unknown
this happend to me too many times