Sonic The Hedgehog (1991) - Part 1: 'Tis the Season, Fools.
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Happy Thanksgiving! For Americans, anyway. But we're giving a treat to everyone, regardless. The BSCrew is revisiting the original Sonic trilogy on the Genesis for the Holidays, but now with better mics, better footage, and better tangents(?). You decide.
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To elaborate further with what Ted was mentioning with SNK and Neo Geo over here in Latin America is that due to the board (the MVS) itself functioning like a console, it made operating the cabinets pretty dang cheaper than purchasing another new cabinet (just buy the new game and swap it), also bootlegs were really easy to make so many arcades used both official carts, bootlegs and romhacks of existing games (the proverbial hacked versions of KOF 2002 that were always in any arcade). That's why we went bonkers when Terry was added in Smash.
Yep they were so common that almost every mom and pop shop had an arcade with KoF and Metal Slug
I’ve known peripherally about Terry and KoF for a few years now, but learning more about SNK in the wake of the Legendary Hungry Wolf joining gaming’s biggest and best crossover has been such a treat.
Dang, that's super cool!
It's always fun hearing about how specific countries or cultures outside of the "main" North America, Europe, and Japanese markets have their interests and phenomena.
Funny, I was in a conversation with a friend of mine the other day about why SNK is a big deal over there. Both of us are avid SNK fans (moreso for him since I introduced him to it when I was in my fighting game phase), so him learning about that was refreshing.
As an addedum that I forgot to mention. Another factor was that the Neo Geo MVS lacked the suicide battery on the encription keys found on the Capcom CPS2 hardware (its competitor at the time), so it also meant that arcade operators never had to worry of their games suiciding to swap the battery every few years or send the boards to Capcom for service. But even then, some CPS2 games did got popular around here like X-Men vs Street Fighter and Marvel vs. Capcom.
Glad to hear Clement still popping into commentaries even as he focuses on a different format for his own content. Always love the banter
Yeah
I see you guys are playing this to satisfy the sonic parade float's insatiable bloodlust to prevent anymore lives from being lost. He already got spongebob, he can't keep getting away with this!
What are you referencing?
@@smashmaster521 Macy's Thanksgiving Parade
@@Metatronio O_O
I'm not sure Ted knows what situational means...
In the context of the elemental shields, the fact that they have a useful passive ability kinda doesn't matter...when the main things are "a double jump, an air dash, and a bounce attack" those aren't things you only use in certain situations...
If they "only" had those passive abilities, then they'd be lame...
He doesn’t, he’s just salty that the others gush how amazing Sonic 3 & Knuckles is while he’s just ambivalent towards it
My face lit up when I heard Clement’s voice! It feels like forever since he’s been a guest for a commentary on this channel…
Nothing like a classic BSC Sonic playthrough to celebrate Thanksgiving.
Sonic for the holidays? sweet--
-hears clement-
IT IS TRULY THE HOLIDAY BRAINSCRATCH SPECIAL!
It's good to hear from Clement again!
Put this side to side to that old commentary. It is a solid improvement in every single way.
I'm so honored to have been watching you guys for so long!
Same! Longevity is hard to come by for TH-camrs
That was back when Al was a bigger TH-camr than Johnny, how times have changed.
Wonder if they're still friends?
Tis the season Johnny, but please, for the rest of the special stages, we need "PINGAS" back
BUMPERS & PINGAS, OH MY!!!
- Johnny, Sonic 4- Ep. 1 lp
I fail to see how the Elemental Shields are situational. As a Double Jump, a Dash Attack, and a Bounce Attack can be useful at anytime.
Though I also disagree with Ted on the Insta-Shield as I find it to be useful, and something does not have to be awesome in order to be useful.
I await the 3 and Knuckles portion of this playthrough.
I used to think like Ted too until I realized that the insta shield basically let you kill anything without having to wait (most notable on the orbinaut's) and it gave you a brief i-frame which might not seem like much at a glance but I can appreciate it more now that I can see how much it helps his playstyle.
When all else subsides, even in death, Sonic will always be there...
*"Sonic...is but a doorway"*
_-Vigo the Carpathian (Probably?)_
Sonic.....is eternal.
@@keelanbarron928 No, that would be Mephiles.
I haven't watched BrainScratch in so long, so when I heard Lewis in this episode I was thrown off from his new mic 😅 it captures way more low tones than his old one!
You guys should play Sonic Robo Blast 2 if your need more Sonic content
Such a great game.
Yus. That would be a great thing there. it could even be a thing where they do it as a netgame.
The endless custom maps would provide for endless content, LOL.
Lewis did a stream of it a few months ago, it would be awesome for the rest of the gang to do it!
@@rockyandyipper Did he do a stream of the vanilla game or Kart?
Another thing that a lot of folks don't realize about the Special Stages, is that the "Up" and "Down" blocks actually work every time in this version. The changes in speed from touching those blocks also contributes to these Special Stages being surprisingly difficult.
alright i will not stop until we get an angry birds commentary. i will *lay down my life* for the angry birds commentary.
oh right, the game's 30 years old.
though to be honest, i was expecting generations, since you guys already did colors.
And Sonic 2 is 29 years old
Without Gareth, a revisit wouldn't be as good. Unless, you're talking about the 3DS version.
@@jlev1028 yeah, 3Ds would be cool.
Their Sonic Generations commentary was nothing short of a historical moment
@@ashtraysonsundays4274 true but I wanna see a revisit
We're approaching the 4th Mania playthrough prepare yourself for Ted's ultimate salt
NO. NO. NO. NO! I like Sonic Mania, but we don't need it to become a victim of its own hype.
@Sonic 2013 really man....
@Sonic 2013 you spelled sonic forces wrong
@Sonic 2013 why do you think mania is such a travesty
@Sonic 2013 sheesh why are you so strong on this
Mario, Spider-Man, and now the original Sonic…
The set list has been fire, thank you for making me feel like a kid again. Long live BSC & affiliates!
Jesus Christ, Sonic spent more time in the third Special Stage than he spent through the rest of the part up to that point!
I just should have guessed that this would be a Sonic 1 redo. You crafty bastards, I love BSC.
I was expecting a Generations revisit
I seriously can't understand what Ted means when he says the elemental shields are situational. When is a double jump, mid-air dash, and bouncing for higher jumps ever NOT nice to have?
When they get in the way of grabbing onto Tails when you're trying to have him air-lift you to a higher location.
@@smashmaster521 Ironically, that's an even more situational ability than any of the shields though lol.
@@jacobmonks3722 Still pretty damn useful for reaching paths just out of reach.
Before the decompiled version I always just thought this game was average at best. No idea why, but I now love this game and the PC decompilation is the only way I like to play it.
shout out to the Classic Collection for introducing me to this game and series.
Petition for an actual Angry Birds commentary as an April Fools joke
🤣 I’d ping it.
Y'know, half the fun of these yearly Sonic LPs is that you never know which game they're gonna cover or re-cover next year.
Like they could redo 06 next year, play the Sonic Riders series, do Sonic Rush Adventure and Colors DS, go through the Tails spinoff games, redo Shadow the Hedgehog, or even doing the 3DS Sonic Boom games. These commentaries are like a box of chocolates, and I like it that way.
I'm down for revisiting Sonic 06. Lord knows the video quality of their original commentary is incredibly outdated.
Like Stale Milk in the fridge
@@smashmaster521 By this point, the obsession with that game has died down. Doing a revisit would be beating a dead horse.
I respectfully disagree of them being situational Ted, they're more like optional extras/goodies that the longer you hold on to the easier time you'll have similar to Mario Bros. powerups where they can also be taken away as easily as you find them. But unlike those powerups each Elemental Shield has a special platforming move or secondary use tied to each one. Bubble Shield can repel some projectiles and allows you breath underwater and has the bubble bounce. Electric Shield is ring a magnet that also has a double jump and repels laser based projectiles. And the Fire Shield has a fire dash move that can not only be used for horizontal midair movement but also as an attack.
Sonic Mania enhances them further by letting some shields affect the environment I.E. the Fire Shield setting Oil Ocean on fire.
The Fire Shield just *snaps* Marble Zone in half, wow
While I still enjoy the first 10 YEAR OLD commentaries, I am BEYOND happy you guys are FINALLY revisiting the classic era Sonic stuff to give new perspectives on these wonderful games. And with Ted & Clement too. Yay!
What we won't see is the mental crisis Tails will have as he tries to figure out how and why Sonic's appearance keeps changing over the course of the adventure while everyone else stays the same.
Christian Whitehead and all of Evening Star...How on Earth has Sega not scooped them up?
Like...They've done the best things for this franchise game wise in the past decade. How the hell did Sega just let Mania be a one night stance??
They did not treat the Mania team well, but also apparently after people kept making mods/hacks of Sonic Mania and a plethora of their own Classic Sonic fangames that they decided to give that version of Sonic a break for a while
This Thanksgiving, I'm thankful for the delicious re-hashes.
16:48 Ted, you're actually right. There was a mexican team who made the fighting game Rage of the Dragons for Neo Geo, who were fans of SNK and previously worked on gaming magazine back in the day before making the game as Evoga. It's really interesting stuff!
I have never played this version. Always enjoy these commentaries.
Probably not the first, second or even third to mention this, but I didn’t see anyone from a quick skim of the comments, so…
Seriously props to Neogandwatch for that thumbnail. The art looks right out of the Mania Adventures series, and I love the detail of each character holding up the right number of fingers for their respective games. How Knuckles represents the “four” for Sonic & Knuckles is hilarious ;D
When I saw this on Twitter, I legit thought this was a fourth Mania playthrough, but I'll happily take a classic revisit.
Did you just say-
*FOURTHMANIAPLAYTHROUGH?*
@@Mekboy_ComputerMonster NO! We are not doing that before we do Sonic 06 again.
"We're going back to the original trilogy"
Does this mean yet another argument over the pronunciation of Hydrocity when you guys get to Sonic 3? 😭
The first time that I have ever been with a brain scratch commentary from the start…Looking forward to it
16:50 Brazilian here. The Master System thing is true. The name of the company is Tec Toy, and we even got Phantasy Star 1 and 2 (officially) translated to Portuguese, and Wonderboy (official) reskins with popular Brazilian comic characters. It's funny that these games are possibly collectors' items abroad, but relatively cheap here.
Oh yeah I forgot about the Phantasy Star translations, they basically were rom hacked right? Also howdy fellow Brazilian, I'm glad to know I'm not the only one here scratching my brain lol
We can’t forget the best thing that one of the Mega Collections had, the beta Sonic Heroes opening.
That's a funny way of saying the Mega Collection had a gallery of the early Archie Sonic comic covers.
That's only in the PS2 version...
@@SonicmaniaVideos Yeah, so? You don't have to be a Negative Nancy every time you reply to someone.
Soooo...it means not everyone knew about that.
6:58 I can fully attest to that, because, if you play Sonic 2 in widescreen, you’ll be shocked by the number of times you can dodge slicers. Seriously, they’re barely a threat in that version.
I’m so glad somebody is giving Sonic some love today. (Being Nov 25th) hardly any pics of his Macy's balloon. And I love your Sonic commentaries.
I love this collab so much haha! I know Clement moved on from Sonic and Let's Plays, but having him commentate along with BSC on a classic Sonic game really brought me back! 😁
Sega is doing a disservice to the fans by not porting the Android versions to Switch and PS4. Unless Origins is the definitive experience.
Oh hell yeah baby, classic Sonic trilogy commentary time, and it starts with the BETTER Sonic 1
Also I loveee the thumbnail art for this one!!
And here I was getting excited for the Honkai Impact playthrough
Something I meant to say when this lp started-
Looking at the thumbnail:
Sonic = Johnny
Tails = Lewis
Robotnik/Eggman = Ryan
Knuckles = Ted
Mega Collection did that. It had Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles. However you could unlock Sonic 3 and Knuckles-by playing the the 2 prerequisite games _30_ times if I remember correctly
Yeah, screw that nonsense. I love Mega Collection, but I do NOT have the patience to play the individual components of Sonic 3 & Knuckles that many times just to unlock their combined form.
I think it was 20 times for each.
By "play", all you actually had to do was open them from the menu then exit back to the menu. Rinse and repeat.
And thus, the 90's were born
Sweet! This is going to be fun!
Goofy: "Ga-hyuck hohohohohohoy"
Pete: "Goof?! Stop it!"
Goofy: "Gawrsh Pete, yer pitiful"
Can't wait to see somthing top Ryan's playthrough of 3&k.
I'm glad they're doing a Sonic game. I feel like they never talk about Sonic, like ever. Never ever.
I'd actually argue stuff like Sonic 1 Forever and Sonic 2 Absolute are the definitive versions of these decomps because of all the stuff they add to the presentation and general tweaks that make it more like the original.
For example, you can hit Robotnik in the Green Hill boss as he descends instead of waiting for the wrecking ball to drop, or the balance animation mechanics being the same as the Genesis. Then there's the extra game modes, like Emerald Gauntlet or an updated boss rush that takes place in Sky Base from the 8 bit Sonic 1, and Sonic 2 has it's Nick Arcade prototype restored as a challenge mode. And the different options for things, like 6 or 7 emerald select in 1, and different abilities or super music choices, along with the CD twirl animation on a spring, peel out animations for going fast, or the peel out itself and other abilities can just be selected from the menu instead of being accessed through the level select. I think they even included a pretty competent drop dash in there as well. It's also just easier to add mods and stuff through S1F and S2A because they give you an actual mod loader in the menu (like what Sonic 3 AIR does now) rather than needing to use an external mod loader or changing the game's files directly.
Generally though, they run off the same things the decomps do, so they're almost one in the same. I'd say both the standard decomps and Team Forever's updates are both completely viable and fun to play, but I just kinda prefer the Team Forever stuff.
This is the definitive edition of Sonic 1
Is this trilogy going to end with the three magic words... *FOURTH MANIA PLAYTHROUGH*?
Nah, it'll be a playthrough of Sonic 3D Blast's Director's Cut. :p
@@Worldpeacekid And then 4th Mania Playthrough.
Special Stage 3 awaits Lewis. Infinite is actually in the Mobile Forces game after a few years.
Happy thanks giveing
Whenever you want eggs scrambled... just call Sonic.
Man it's nice to have Clement for this!
The jam version also improved the level design by the original creators of the games. Some glitches are fixed as well. It’s basically the only official updated version. Sound is also no longer share the same voice Channels so that’s also improved.
Funny thing about the Xbox 360 Versions of Sonic 3 and S&K: The Xbox Arcade versions of the game do have lock-on technology/coding, but _only_ if you bought both Sonic 3 and S&K. From there, Booting up Sonic & Knuckles and going to the extras menu, you can load up the Sonic 3 Data on your Xbox to play Sonic 3&K, because S&K treats Sonic 3 as a sort of “DLC” for the game to read and access.
Another day, another Sonic commentary where the BrainScratch crew somehow manages to talk about everything except Sonic because they've already gone on several Sonic tangents in other non-Sonic commentaries.
12:25 I honestly wouldn't be surprised, Ted.
Since I'm guessing you guys are also going to use the decomp for Sonic 2. I figured I'd throw this here.
I would highly recommend playing Sonic the Hedgehog Forever. It's basically the Sonic 1 Decomp with some extra features, such as Drop Dash, no Super Music, etc. I would argue *THAT* is the superior version.
Very recently, the team behind Sonic Forever has released Sonic 2 Absolute, basically the "Forever" treatment for Sonic 2. I haven't played it yet, but I have seen it in action. It looks pretty good.
I think John did play Sonic Forever during the Sonic Hacking Contest this year.
@@Darthlucy1 He did.
To hear Clement it makes me happy.
What a coincidence, I was JUST watching their old Sonic the Hedgehog (1991) playthrough.
It's showtime!
Hopefully, you guys will revisit Sonic Unleashed (HD) considering that the game now runs at 60FPS on Xbox Series X/S.
Played the first few levels on a friend's Series X and holy shit dude, its so goddamn good. Seriously incredible how smooth it is.
Seriously, playing through it again and oh man 60fps makes such a difference
Fourth Mania Playthrough, Fourth Mania Playthrough, Fourth Mania Playthrough.
Happy Belated 30th Anniversary to the Blue Hedgehog and Mascot of Sega himself! (plus this game brings back fond memories whenever my parents played it when me and my sister were just babies!)
I'm honestly surprised to hear Johnny defending mobile games. As someone who has played hundreds of mobile games over the course of 7 years or so, I can tell you there are some really fun and good ones. There are a few that I've sunk hundreds of hours into, in fact. Of course, there were also some bad ones, but there are bad games on any console or on PC. Whether the games were way too pay to win, or just poorly designed, there can be bad ones, no doubt.
I can say I did enjoy most of the games I downloaded to some extent, though. I've also never paid a dime on mobile games outside of a couple of exceptions (I bought a few games like the mobile versions of Geometry Dash and Bloons Tower Defense 5), so I've never had anything to lose by playing them, really.
Fuck I love clement so god damn much you guys should include him in other commentaries besides sonic
I remember the original Sonic 1 commentary back in 2011,. I was 15 years old.
I've always been curious about the taxman versions of Sonic 1 and 2 but I can't play them due to being legally blind. I've always been stuck playing Sonic Mega Collection on the Gamecube.
Also, I don’t know why you don’t just mention that the elemental shields, 7th chaos emeralds, etc. are apart of debug mode, it confuses players who don’t know
The Master System is still getting sold here in Brazil, I just saw 4 of the newer models yesterday! :V
- V.D.
Do people really keep buying and playing it?
I too seriously hope that the Sonic 1 and 2 versions we'll get in Sonic Origins will be the Mobile version because, while I am glad the decompiled version exist on PC, it's about damn time these versions of Sonic 1 and 2 receive a proper release on consoles and PC
If SEGA's smart, we'll get them. Sonic 2 especially needs something to make it stand out when Sonic Origins inevitably comes to Switch, since there are multiple versions of Sonic 2 already available on Switch.
I unfortunately doubt it. If Taxman & his crew were involved with Sonic Origins in ANY way, even if their versions were just haphazardly dumped on the collection and the crew was just given a name shout out, I’m sure Sega would’ve confirmed that as soon as Origins was announced considering how well received Sonic Mania was. Sega has been dumb with Sonic recently but I doubt they would be THAT dumb to NOT mention if Taxman & co were working on Sonic Origins at this point.
Also, considering that Sega has been schlocky hush hush about Origins since it’s announcement, I’m sensing some development complications happened..Oh Sega…😩
@@Ubritoons96 Yeah, I fully expect Sonic Origins to be as barebones a collection as Super Mario 3D All-Stars was, with the standard versions of Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 that people are sick of being re-released over the mobile version being the versions used for Sonic Origins. Switch owners will likely be especially annoyed because they already have three ways to play Sonic 2 on their platform available to them.
@@smashmaster521 See, I think they sort of can’t do that now. They did say widescreen for the games, Taxman’s involvement or not, they kinda HAVE to deliver on that promise since they outright said it in the trailer. My main concerns about Origins isn’t necessarily on the WS support though, it’s the possible new engines the games will most likely be programmed with IF WS is truly implemented in each of them.
For instance, While the mobile ports of both Sonic 1&2 are THE definitive way to play those games (if you use a Bluetooth controller like I do for tablets because FUCK that touch circle pad wannabe control scheme you’re stuck with if you don’t) , there are still not perfect. Some mechanics are NOT one to one like they are in the genesis versions. The one mechanic that kept throwing me off the most in Sonic 2 mobile was the infamous hidden retractable platforms in Wing Fortress where I SWEAR the last platform before the checkpoint was slightly more delayed than the others on that new engine, so I had to deliberately jump back to the previous platform just to have the last one show up to make it through safely.
My one true post disappointment for Origins is this though. I hope that OG Sonic CD is NOT used because of that poor collision detection the initial release was plagued with.
Resident Evil and Goof Troop? If that's the case, I could see Peg as Lady Dimitrescu.
Really really really wish the taxman versions would come to consoles.
A revisit of Sonic 1? Nice! I just got the Taxman versions of Sonic 1, 2 and CD as well and I agree they are the best way to play these games now. Granted, the elemental shields and to some extent the Insta-Shield kind of negate some of the challenge.
I do hope that Taxman and crew eventually are able to port Sonic 3 & Knuckles, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
@12:58 Actual Ryan, Mega Collection PLUS is still the best one!
Who does a playthrough of Sonic 1 at 3 Am
BSC: OH BOI 3 AM
Anyway you guys good, like there has to be something paint is nice to look at for a bit. I get Sonic go brrr but this game needs a break
I recorded this off of my phones screen recorder for my playthrough, and I used my PS4 controller connected with Bluetooth and it was perfect.
Surprised the Advance games were not on the docket.
If you have bluetooth controllers like the ps4 and xbone controllers, you can still play mobile games that have controller support with a controller. And if even if you only have a controller that doesn't like the 360 controller, you can use a OTG cable to use them.
But, I'd say that sonic games aren't too bad with the touch controls since they're just the dpad and one button, but a controller is definitely preferred.
Also, we know the real reason they're not waiting on sonic origins before doing this revisit, is to revisit again for sonic origins, and to end it with the fifth mania playthrough
Hell yeah dude
:( sad no fta
Ah Hell yeah the Taxman port. Best version of the game.
Also the Xbox 360 totally had S3&K lock on, that’s how I played it the first time.
Yes the company that was involved with the master system in Brazil is called TECTOY.
They were right about the Master System in Brazil, and SNK in Latin America, in my parents' home country of Mexico, however, the Super Nintendo became THE most popular 16-Bit gaming system in México, in all my vacation trips in Mexico, Sonic the Hedgehog never became a thing in Mexico, at least until I want to say the movie from last year.
So are you going to be doing Sonic CD again? It is part of the Taxman and Stealth list.
There's native controller support for this on Android, by the way.
It's not mapped to the touchscreen, or anything like that. You can even plug an Xbox 360 controller into your phone if you've got an adapter. I played the Android version of Sonic 2 with a 360 controller on a Matricom G-Box.
AHHHHHHH MY GOD!!!
The name of the brazillian company that (still) has the rights to produce and sell the Mastersystem is TecToy (Johnny was pretty close there lel). I'm pretty sure it was the same thing with the Mega Drive here (yeah, we also call it the Mega Drive in Brazil). They weren't actually manufactured here, but were sold at very low prices which made it the MUCH more popular system.
Also about the Neo Geo and fighting games... Stuff life KoF and Fatal Fury machines were (and still are) so popular that even people like construction workers would start playing a few matches together during lunch time, which is interesting.
Howdy fellow brazilian! I though the Mega Drive III had parts that were manufactured here but I guess I was wrong ^^'. Thanks for the info!
Wanna play this version, but getting it to work on PC looks complicated as all hell.
Guys the android version has gamepad support. Did you not know that? It's how I played the game on my Chromebook. Playing the android version with the 8bitdo M30.
I just wanna say I beat special stage 7 of this remake 3 times, once in no save on my phone and twice on my 3DS (yes you can play this and the sonic 2 remake on a modded 3DS and they actually run shockingly well for the most part)
The mobile ports do natively support the use of bluetooth controllers. So yes the touchscreen controls were not the only option for it.
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOI
Will we ever get to triple trouble? My favorite underrated sonic game.
I hope the Sonic Origins compilation has more than just console versions of these Taxman ports
Good times
You can use a bluetooth controller to play the android versions with buttons instead of the touch screen, Ted.