The Beautiful Lies of Sound Design | Tasos Frantzolas | TEDxAthens
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- From gunshots in a canyon to underwater submarine engines, this audio-rich talk explores the role of sound design in modern storytelling.
Soundsnap.com founder Tasos Frantzolas looks at a variety of multimedia examples to show the ways that sound designers ‘lie’ in creating the sonic palette of film, television and interactive media.
Tasos Frantzolas grew up in Athens and began producing music at the age of 13. After attending SAE London for Audio Engineering, he enjoyed a brief stint in the UK’s music and post-production industries. In 2006, he returned to Greece to found Soundsnap.com, a sound effects and loop library that has since grown to encompass over one million users and become the most popular sound effects destination worldwide.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx
No layperson seems to understand how important sound design is in media but luckily they always seem to get their minds blown when you show them the inner workings of it. I love that bacon example
great now I'm hungry.
Sound design and Foley is a great job; when working with animations you create the world from nothing, letting your creativity and imagination flow. I remember my first attempt at composing music and organising sound design for an animation project of a university student a year above. One of the things I needed to do was to recreate the sound of a sword being drawn to go in tandem with the demon onscreen revealing his claws (directors decision). I could've called a friend who has a katana but I wanted to be creative. So I got a butter knife and a sharpening stone and dragged the knife across it for the main sound, then took a wine glass and flicked it for the 'ding' of the claw tips. Putting them together I got a good result, and from that moment on I got hooked. Since then I've taken up a part time job of creating sound design and composing music for short films and I'm having the time of my life.
DJ Shuffle r u a foley artist?
DJ Shuffle did u hav to get a degree of some kind? Or is it on the job training
Its sort of both. I studied Audio Production which included a brief overview of Foley and Sound Design. After doing some research I bought some equipment (portable recorder and a shotgun microphone) and began experimenting. My university also did courses in film production and animation, so I teamed up with a few students who were also experimenting with different techniques and had lots of small projects that didn't lead anywhere. I asked them if I could record Foley and create Sound Design for their test projects, to which they happily agreed. Next thing I know, they began working on their major projects and required sound. They remembered me and asked if I was willing to participate. Up to this point I gathered enough experience to know what I'm doing and how to achieve certain effects. I agreed and we got some great films and animations together. Using their work as examples of past work, I asked around local post production studios and I managed to find a place. I got further training from a fellow experienced Foley artist working there, which mainly included breathing techniques (to minimise interference) and fine tuning my synchronisation.
thanks!! where abouts are u based?
Any shotgun will do, in fact, almost any decent mic will do. How your room sounds is 100 times more important than your mic. Little noise, little reverberation/echo is what you're looking for, with a solid floor (if your house is made of wood it's gonna be trouble, your footsteps are always gonna have some extra boxy low-mids).
Best tip to learn foley is to see someone else do it. So ask for internships at any studio that does foley, or even people that do it independently. If there's a college in your city that teaches audio, at bare minimum one of the teachers probably does sound design as a freelancer, ask him if he needs an intern and that you will bring him coffee and tidy the place up and clean up the place if he teaches you. Work is cheaper than any college, and you learn more if your boss is good.
"I actually lied, they're all bacon..." [thunderous applause] is really quite cracking me up right now
I would like to make an edit where right after he says that, it cuts to the ending with him saying "Thank You"
Guido Flichman
It's been seven months, where is it
Lol I'm imagining someone literally waiting 7 months to see if the edit was was made, checking back every few weeks hoping to god the comment hasn't been buried by comments like "Fart at 00:12" and "MORGAN FREEMAN + REVERB = GOD" (which is the only true thing that's been said thus far), only to get frustrated enough after 7 months to write, "It's been seven months! WHERE IS IT!!!!!???"
@@abrampainter3764 waiting for this edit tbh
that wasn't real applause.
This is such an underrated video. This deserves more views.
Only thing I found tougher than doing sound design (Foley) for a film, is doing it LIVE with a full-house audience during a live production. Timing must be perfect every time to prevent spoiling a scene. Wizard of Oz required 35 sound effects which I created from scratch, and used the original film script for the play. Wrote special software to cue each effect for instant play.
But can you use rain sound for bacon video??? :D
Of course you can. You can also use silence for bacon frying video. Creates a lot of tension with you and the producer, and the director, and finally, the audience (if it happens to have one) ;-)
I did some experiments so here are my results: DO NOT FRY BACON IN THE RAIN
Belated LOL, *Justinas Nargela* - Good one! (I'm late to this video as you can see).
by far the best TED talk about sound
Well, there was that one along time ago where the guy focuses and directs sound across the audience with some device, that was neat
+Adam Bechtol Interesting. What was it called?
Your profile picture had me trying to clean my phone screen for five minutes
"- Don't you hate that?
- Hate what?
- Uncomfortable silences. Why do we feel it's necessary to yak about bullshit in order to be comfortable?
- I don't know. That's a good question."
btw I love to simply listen to movies without the picture, draws my attention to more details, I recommend it...
Never let anyone tell you that cinema is exclusively a visual medium.
So fascinated by sound now!!! crazy what the film industry can do with it, it is so creative
As a sound designer I bet he's mad at his microphone when he's talking.
It was adequate. But of course not perfect. But was only the words that were important. It was not a vocal in a musical piece. A narrator versus vocals in movies or music has very different requirements. Accuracy is not important in speech. But clearness and easy to discern words are. In my mind the only negative about the sound on his mike was because it was placed slightly too close to the airflow from the mouth creating popping sounds.
@@brysenbowie4024 Thats an invasion of her privacy, bud. Not a good look
This is one of the best presentation ever....and the audience haven't grown to understand it...
I put this recommendation on a list, I knew it was going to be quite useful and, I wasn't wrong: As music producer, I've found his assertion to the sound design as as language and how it plays around illusion very enlightening.
Thanks for doing this seminar. I am presenting at Texas Frightmare this year on horror film sound. Some of your vocabulary and terms for describing sound were very inspiring. Indy film sound is quite messy and many just kick it to the curb, do not budget, and sometimes think of it as a red headed step child to the point of disrespect. I'm struggling a bit with having to be diplomatic to my film maker audience while trying to bridge the gap between director and mix engineer. We have so many misconseptions and problems.
are you in Texas? if so, I gotta chat with you re: sound design :-)
My newborn baby's screams are perfectly suitable for sudden scared woman scream sounds. He starts with whining like engine sounds before the drag race. At around 4th or 5th step he makes his peak sound which is that screams. :D
Oh and I believe with a little bit editing, you can make lots of usefull sound effects from his long and juicy farts :D
Yes , sounds and music are powerfull. But most powerfull is the creativity associated. Creativity often comes when you take an idea from its original context and you move it somewhere else; it's amazing. I love the magic moment where things are different and interesting but stay in the same format .
Thank you that was VERY INTERESTING! Every day we are confronted with and surrounded by sound and never really recognize how much it impacts our feelings and thoughts!
Can we take a moment to appreciate the stage decor?
The bit on the dynamic contrast... the play between loudness and silence can't be overstated.
Sir, I love creating foleys and just enjoy providing, setting and mixing sound effects and ambience and all to a video... and whosoever had watched my work, they were shocked at my perfection. SHOULD I CHOOSE THIS PASSION AS MY CARRIER ??? and if YES, WHAT SHOULD I DO FIRST !!???
This made my day honestly
Best Presentation On Sound I Seen So Far
This is quite encouraging for anybody looking to get into sound business.
You did great Tasos! thank you for shearing the knowledge.
He has so many ideas to keep my concentration.
I love this ted.
Love this! Plan for weekend: Make ambient tracks.
08:00 "A real big one": that was when - listening in the kitchen, windows opened - church bells started ringing outside
That was fun, thanks and God Bless! 😊🙏🏻❤
This was great! An invitation to appreciate and PLAY with perception. I liked the juxtaposition of the baby and the congas.
i have been making a movie and i do believe this helped me a lot.
well done presentation.
This is a great explanation for film editors
I'm adding this video to my lecture on Radio and Movie appreciation.
Fascinating Ted Talk. Excellent job Tasos Fratzolas. Thank you!
Dropin gems left and right
brilliant talk. very encouraging re: truth vs lies haha
I'm in the process designing the sound for my short film (genre: war) and the various elements are just mind boggling.
awsome man .great lessons
I love foley art 💖
excellent and inspiring
Thank you so much.❤
such amazing clip for sound define
In summary: *_MORGAN FREEMAN + REVERB = GOD_*
My life will never be the same !!
Frank Serafine is a legend! Glad to hear his name.
Watching this for the second time cuz I forgot I already did. Still, absolutely worth watching again
This is great! thanks!!
Great talk! I should join a TEDx when I come to Athens next time :-)
Beautiful presentation.బాగుంది.మెచ్చుకుంటున్నాను.
If anyone is interested, the movie "Stoker" had some amazing sound design in my opinion
Boom~ its cool for my interview questions ~ well
~ keep enjoy ~😉
Very entertaining and informative video.
Wonderful talk!
Learned so much from this video. 🤯
Ok this is the best ted talk i've seen )))
One of The best i have ever watched
This is awesome.
this was awesome & inspiring !!!
Great talk to, among other things, get someone interested in sound design.
Lovely!
Awesome talk. Thanks.
Silence is golden
Also bacon.
Love it....very interesting...nice...thanks.
Former sounddesigner here. I approve this talk. Great one!
sounds like he put a laugh track in here?....
Sound Design...
too much gate...
That's because of the noise gate. Pretty badly set up
ok now I know I'm not the only one
I'd think HE out of all people would do a better job, so it's the noise gate.
I'm an amateur mixing engineer. I found this very interesting and somewhat correlated to what I do.
Very funny guy, and interesting talk. That was a good moment to witness.
Best commercial for a website ever.
Thank you Tasos
Where is the best place to study a degree of Sound Design? Thank you.
wooow..............learned alot
Fantastic :)
Takes me back to foley work in my degree, and treading in a tray of corn flakes (any brand will suffice) to replicate the sound of walking in deep snow...
What an eye/ear opener
“we can now make this gunshot sound like it was recorded inside a bathroom- a church-- an elementary school”
I believe the reason people think fake sounds are more real is because they've been conditioned over the decades by fake sounds. It's like if you only ever taste artificial banana flavor, and then eat a real banana, it wouldn't taste right to you.
Wow..
..for whatever reason, I read your comment and read "fart" sounds (instead of "fake"), not once.....but twice - reading it at the end of the first sentence. Needless to say, my version of the comment was much more entertaining.
There's a surprisingly non-subjective and technical answer to your question. Both sounds are made out of many tiny random events: rain sounds are made of thousands of raindrops impacting. Bacon, hundreds, perhaps thousands of tiny bubbles splattering. Both are in a similar frequency range. So you have two sounds that share the similarity of being a composite of many tiny random events, and what you hear is the result of all of that. These can be modeled as stochastic (random events in a fixed range over time) processes and you can simulate a lot of sounds pretty easily with common stochastic sound design tools, from applause, to leaves in trees to fire (think of what the sound of plastic crumpling is made of--many tiny creaking sounds, whereas fire is made of many tiny cracks as gas escapes the wood etc). Stochastic sounds are found throughout the natural and manmade world and there's been research into this since the mid 20th century, starting with Iannis Xenakis. So yeah, this isn't just because of deception--the sounds share real similarities in their properties. You can also use rice to simulate the sounds of rain quite effectively, for the same reason--just put a bunch of dry grains in a container and shake it around. Sound designers have used this trick for decades.
The point makes a lot of sense. That's true. But how we are conditioned so..? is a question worth consideration..We always are fed up with the shabby boring life..We keep looking for fantasy..Something that has more effect in our sense than real. Cinema definitely is designed for fantasy. Real elements are very cleverly blended with this design to outsmart the brain of audience.
The reason artificial banana flavor tastes different is because its supposed to taste like an extinct species of banana. Today's bananas are called cavendish bananas and taste completely different.
So, not the best analogy
Sometimes they push it too far. Like when National Geographic makes a hyena getting bit by a lion cry out using a canned moose call.
so nice
I too stab cabbages
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DaikFlowkes & The Cabbage Stabbers would make a great band name. 😎
nice talk.
This is great for anyone who knows nothing about post production and humor.
Good presentation !!!
So was the applause at the end rain?
Bacon
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Awesome
Brilliantly explained the meaning of sound, i want to more about meaning behind the sound as the example of breaking of glass depicts breaking of relationship is sow. Kindly help me with the links where i can study more about it.
Great speech!very enlightening!
love me some good foley
Nice!
Nice to know.
"Recording of time square" where's the trick? I've never been in Times Square, but I'm pretty sure that if you turn on a mic there by chance you won't get a perfect car honk.
who else thought that this was going to be about serum???
Hahaha
Thank god I had headphones, I could hear that it was all bacon :D That talk was awesome, I'm gonna implement that
For a talk about sound design (or any live event, honestly) - why in the world was his dialogue gated in this edit?
For a video about sound, you'd think they would have worked out a way to reduce the vocal popping.
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Speaking about sound, his microphone records plosives and there is some Larsen effect...;)
Great video though!
now this is epic
nice!
Pretty bad sound for a video about sound design..
No.
@@EminoMeneko yes
😂😭 true!
I was thinking the same hahaha
I'm so sorry for this comment .... I really LOVEDDDDDDD the presentation..... But was that a fart at 9:09 🤣🤣🤣
dope
All those people sleeping at 14:57
Art never meant to be identical to reality, but a (free, hence, artistic) interpretation of life's moments. Like a pic from a camera. It hasn't to be exactly same as the real thing (it has no sense).
Thus, a painting of a real image, a record of a sound, are interpretations of reality, not reality itself. We don't copy, we transform. The most you transform a sound recording, photo, or describe with lyrics a moment of life, you're creating Art. Calling it a lie or deception is foolish.
Sound design or Foley, in a movie is a true art, when people try to record in their homestudios for the first time, they start to realize HOW difficult is to record something decent, clear, clean, and artistic ''in situ''.
For a movie, recording a sound in the same place where are the actors, cameras, assistants, etc, is impossible: you need to isolate the soundsource without background noises, and that's only possible in a professional studio with sound isolation treatment (that costs lots of money).