Thank you from France. I have subtitles turned on, and they often say [Applause] and I wondered why... then realised it's interpreting passing traffic as applause😅! So when you're beavering away and are perhaps annoyed at the traffic, just think of it as people rushing by applauding you!
I've seen "applause" several times watching c.c. videos. Sometimes they appear at the most inopportune times and are quite funny. At first I just thought whoever did the c.c. was being sarcastic, but like you said "applause" was being auto-generated. lol
Had a similar situation with a Murray tractor. After going through all the steps, battery, solenoid, starter, found the ground cable to the frame was loose. Lots of wasted time for a simple fix. Good thing to check first.
Thanks Don, really appreciate the time you took to produce the video, it was really interesting, and it has happened to me some time back. And if I had known the cause I would have save time and money. Cheers.
Hey young man; As always great walk thru. IF I can run mine by ya; I have a Toro 54 zero turn. New Battery mid summer. For the past summer the mower will "hard click" at solenoid. Sometimes it fires right up but it's a real hit and miss. I checked 12+- v at solenoid from Battery. Key to start -on starter side of solenoid same results hit miss more miss. I unhooked power cord from starter and I get 12 +- volt every time I key to start position. Hook the starter back up and It's back to same issue. I'm stuck. Best; Tom
@@donyboy73 Solenoid arrived today and she fired right up :)))). your as always awesome!! I greatly appreciate you taking the time with me!! I tinker and would like to count on you to bounce things off of. Once in a while I'll send ya a Diner on me card;; Best; Tom
I have a 2019 E130, the starter cranks and spins, but doesn't engage the fly wheel. I just replaced the starter earlier this year. There is some gunk, something from what I think was some mice that built a nest under the cover when the mower sat for a chunk of the summer due to not needing to mow due to the heat.
Thanks for the Vid. . . Replaced key switch , Replaced starter relay , still have to jump it off via screwdrive . . . (No severed/damaged wires) Have watched many vids without the discovery of the issue. Any suggestions ?
Thank you, really appreciate watching your videos. Probably too late now but you forgot the rubber cover on the battery lead (it's resting on the floor panel) ;)
Thanks for another great and useful video, Don! So if it didn't turn over and still clicked after you jumped the solenoid, would you replace the starter? Or would further testing be necessary?
No further testing would be necessary as long as the wires to the starter are ok - you would just replace the starter. However, if the solenoid doesn't click when the key is turned to the start position, it's not necessarily the solenoid - it could be one of the safety switches or the wiring to or from said switches. One of my brother-in-laws had a riding lawnmower that would start by jumping the solenoid, but not with the key, and the problem turned out to be the blade engagement switch. We took the switch apart and cleaned the contacts and the mower fired right up. In this video, the solenoid has two wires - the black one is the ground and the purple one is called the "signal" wire. When you turn the key to start it, the signal wire sends 12V to a coil in the solenoid, energizing it, which allows the battery voltage to be applied at the starter. If there is anything wrong with any of the safety switches and their corresponding circuits, you won't get the required 12V from the signal wire and the mower won't start.
Hey Don thanks for your uploads over the years, mega helpful content. Just wondering if you know anywhere online I can find parts diagram for my 30 inch greenfield mower, I know it's an Australian brand so if you are not sure that's ok. Model is a less common one, GF10B30... Thanks.
Very dangerous idea. It;s quite easy to short out when using a flat wrench ( not everyone has sockets and a ratchet ). Plus that wire from the battery is easy to accidental short to the mower frame when removing and re installing the solenoid. An exploding battery is no fun.
@@blackenedmagic888 I have disconnected the POSITIVE cable first countless times in my 65 yrs of wrenching power equipment, Never had a battery blow up, had occasional "spark" display and a slightly defaced wrench or two. But, yes I would recommend NEGATIVE first!!
Cutting the tabs off the bracket will expose virgin steel to the elements, leading to accelerated corrosion. The bracket has corrosion-resistant coating from the factory. Great video!
Since the solenoid is clicking, that confirms to you all of the safetys and the fuse are good, right? And if the solenoid doesn't click (the problem I'm having now) it could be a bad solenoid or safety, correct? If it turns over when the solenoid is jumped, the issue could still be a safety, or solenoid, but definitely not the starter. Because the starter is spinning. -- I think i understand it, but I'm just not having the same results
Hello, I am going crazy! I pickup LT150 it was running. I started cutting my lawn and only got half way then..dead. I did change solnoid ,carb, filters,gas,oil and this tractor has fusline. When I turn the key the headlight comes on,solnoid clicks but doesn’t turn over. Help!!
I am just trying to help a person such as myself who doesn’t know squat about engines. Make sure a mouse did not get under the engine cover and build a nest that seized up the fan. I almost spent money on parts that didn’t really need to be replaced. I did replace the battery.
good tip . just because it clicks doesn't mean it works . i sawed one apart once , either from a mower or a 1960s ford , and found a thick copper washer that (when not burnt/pitted like mine) makes contact between the large posts when activated .
Great video. I never would've known you can bypass the solenoid to start the engine. I have a Husqvarna with a twin cylinder Kohler engine. I'll have to check out the solenoid configuration to see if I'm able to bypass it, too, in case in the future my solenoid clicks and won't start.
I dont know what the heck is wrong with mine. I can turn the key and it spins like it wants to fly away...lol Spins really fast with top speed momentum that almost shakes the frame. But it just does not seem to have the put put resistance going on. I can turn it with my hand, and there seems to be resistance like compression I guess. Dang thing is killing me.
Really need help with my Push mower..i have a briggs and straton OHV .. it makee slight popping sound... i adjusted the valve clearance, increase the RPM, replaced the flywheel key, cleaned carb, new gas .. .. new spark plug and still didnt make any difference .. it goes away for 5 min then come back again.. can seems to find any video on YT ... thanks
Hey donyboy73 my friend has craftsman lt1000 starts up and runs for about ten, fifteen minutes and won't start back up. Says that he had new parts on. I am confused 😕 could new plunger work at first and then sticks for carburetor???❤🦅🦅🦅🙌👏
Not to nit pick, but I would also have checked for a solid ground on the black wire and 12V on the purple wire when in the "start" position. Sometimes a bad key switch can interfere with the 12V solenoid position and prevent it from starting.
The fact that it was turning over and STARTING while jumping the solinoid was enough to show it was the solinoid. The other checks would could have been helpful if it DIDN'T start. He did the easiest and fastest test first.
@@videodistro You're partially correct. If it didn't start (or at least turn over) by jumping the solenoid, it would mean either the starter was bad or something wrong with the wiring going to the starter - nothing else can cause it. Because the solenoid clicked when he tried to start it with a key, automatically means the purple wire has 12V going to it - it wouldn't click at all if there was no voltage.
It’s one am,I’m in a hospital bed, 3 iv’s going into me, waiting for morphine, and I have a bunch of dony boy videos to watch and 3 frozen smuckers Pby sandwiches to eat. What else could I ask for ?
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Thank you from France.
I have subtitles turned on, and they often say [Applause] and I wondered why... then realised it's interpreting passing traffic as applause😅! So when you're beavering away and are perhaps annoyed at the traffic, just think of it as people rushing by applauding you!
I've seen "applause" several times watching c.c. videos. Sometimes they appear at the most inopportune times and are quite funny. At first I just thought whoever did the c.c. was being sarcastic, but like you said "applause" was being auto-generated. lol
Thank you. I appreciate the time that you took to do this video.
You brought a smile to an old man's face ! 😆 I've jumped many an automobile that way .
This is fun. I had an early 80s pickup that I had to do that to start it. I left it that way for half a year to prevent theft.
Saved me on memorial day weekend thanks for this content
Had a similar situation with a Murray tractor. After going through all the steps, battery, solenoid, starter, found the ground cable to the frame was loose. Lots of wasted time for a simple fix. Good thing to check first.
Thanks for another great video. I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge with all of us.
Great video Donyboy you saved me a lot of time! Thanks
You're a fountain of knowledge.
Thanks Don, really appreciate the time you took to produce the video, it was really interesting, and it has happened to me some time back. And if I had known the cause I would have save time and money. Cheers.
Hey young man;
As always great walk thru.
IF I can run mine by ya; I have a Toro 54 zero turn. New Battery mid summer.
For the past summer the mower will "hard click" at solenoid. Sometimes it fires right up but it's a real hit and miss.
I checked 12+- v at solenoid from Battery.
Key to start -on starter side of solenoid same results hit miss more miss.
I unhooked power cord from starter and I get 12 +- volt every time I key to start position.
Hook the starter back up and It's back to same issue.
I'm stuck.
Best; Tom
I would replace the solenoid
@@donyboy73 Solenoid arrived today and she fired right up :)))). your as always awesome!! I greatly appreciate you taking the time with me!! I tinker and would like to count on you to bounce things off of. Once in a while I'll send ya a Diner on me card;; Best; Tom
@@donyboy73 I stumbled into your vid -Lawn tractor won't start and clicks- this morn. somehow missed when doin the 20 searches..
Thanks awesome job.
Very useful info. Thanks Tom.
Thanks Don! Did you notice the red boot for the battery cable to solenoid which was on the bottom tray?
Yes I noticed after filming and put it back on.
I have a 2019 E130, the starter cranks and spins, but doesn't engage the fly wheel. I just replaced the starter earlier this year. There is some gunk, something from what I think was some mice that built a nest under the cover when the mower sat for a chunk of the summer due to not needing to mow due to the heat.
Mine is doing the exact same thing.hope a solenoid works 4 me too...
Thanks, very useful video, I keep this tip in mind in case it happens one day.
Thanks for the Vid. . .
Replaced key switch , Replaced starter relay , still have to jump it off via screwdrive . . . (No severed/damaged wires) Have watched many vids without the discovery of the issue. Any suggestions ?
TY for Sharing
Keep up the good work..............Jay
Hi , what do you think about those little john deere tractor are they pretty reliable ?
Awesome you make it seem so easy for you
Great video Donny! Cheers 🍻
GREAT tip!
Another great video Don!
Thanks, great simple fix video.
Thank you, really appreciate watching your videos. Probably too late now but you forgot the rubber cover on the battery lead (it's resting on the floor panel) ;)
Thanks for the info!
Very observant mate. Well
done. Regards B
T
Great video! What kind of saw is that you are using? Looks and can't seem to find anything like it. Looks extremely handy
here is my review on it; th-cam.com/video/I_eDUU8BT8Q/w-d-xo.html
@@donyboy73 Awesome! Thank you!
have you ever taken the starter off?( mine is a d140) there is a bolt that is very difficult to remove, any suggestions?
I use a socket with torx
@@donyboy73 my torx socket wouldn't fit,the housing was in the way.
@@mjd-m6h I use one where the torx bit is longer
I have an L120 John Deer; lost one of the attach bolts and washer to the ignition coil. Where can I find a bolt and washer? Thanks
You didn't jumper to solenoid activation lead. Was that because there was a solid click?
He did it to test the "contactor" inside the solenoid!
Thanks for another great and useful video, Don! So if it didn't turn over and still clicked after you jumped the solenoid, would you replace the starter? Or would further testing be necessary?
No further testing would be necessary as long as the wires to the starter are ok - you would just replace the starter. However, if the solenoid doesn't click when the key is turned to the start position, it's not necessarily the solenoid - it could be one of the safety switches or the wiring to or from said switches. One of my brother-in-laws had a riding lawnmower that would start by jumping the solenoid, but not with the key, and the problem turned out to be the blade engagement switch. We took the switch apart and cleaned the contacts and the mower fired right up.
In this video, the solenoid has two wires - the black one is the ground and the purple one is called the "signal" wire. When you turn the key to start it, the signal wire sends 12V to a coil in the solenoid, energizing it, which allows the battery voltage to be applied at the starter. If there is anything wrong with any of the safety switches and their corresponding circuits, you won't get the required 12V from the signal wire and the mower won't start.
THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO
Hey Don thanks for your uploads over the years, mega helpful content. Just wondering if you know anywhere online I can find parts diagram for my 30 inch greenfield mower, I know it's an Australian brand so if you are not sure that's ok. Model is a less common one, GF10B30... Thanks.
Sorry I don't, did you try emailing the company?
So if it cranks when I attempt to start, the solenoid is not the issue, correct?
Correct
@donyboy73 Back to the drawing board then.
I would say you HAVE TO remove the negative cable from the battery - too easy to have a short otherwise
You don’t have to. Disconnect the leads move them out of the way and pull it out. Nothing is going to short out.
Very dangerous idea. It;s quite easy to short out when using a flat wrench ( not everyone has sockets and a ratchet ). Plus that wire from the battery is easy to accidental short to the mower frame when removing and re installing the solenoid. An exploding battery is no fun.
Every farm boy watching this has done this many times using their pliers across a starter. Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do
Exactly! The possibility of getting a short is also the reason why you NEVER disconnect the positive terminal.
@@blackenedmagic888 I have disconnected the POSITIVE cable first countless times in my 65 yrs of wrenching power equipment, Never had a battery blow up, had occasional "spark" display and a slightly defaced wrench or two. But, yes I would recommend NEGATIVE first!!
Thanks Dony
Cutting the tabs off the bracket will expose virgin steel to the elements, leading to accelerated corrosion. The bracket has corrosion-resistant coating from the factory. Great video!
And make the part unreturnable if you get a dud.
Since the solenoid is clicking, that confirms to you all of the safetys and the fuse are good, right? And if the solenoid doesn't click (the problem I'm having now) it could be a bad solenoid or safety, correct? If it turns over when the solenoid is jumped, the issue could still be a safety, or solenoid, but definitely not the starter. Because the starter is spinning. -- I think i understand it, but I'm just not having the same results
I have a problem. The tractor works but when I put the blades the tractor turns off. Do you have any suggestions?
Hello, I am going crazy! I pickup LT150 it was running. I started cutting my lawn and only got half way then..dead. I did change solnoid ,carb, filters,gas,oil and this tractor has fusline. When I turn the key the headlight comes on,solnoid clicks but doesn’t turn over. Help!!
Nice one
👍👍👍. Thanks
I am just trying to help a person such as myself who doesn’t know squat about engines. Make sure a mouse did not get under the engine cover and build a nest that seized up the fan. I almost spent money on parts that didn’t really need to be replaced. I did replace the battery.
Hell yeah 👍 E-Z money I always scuff the area behind the solenoid mount as well to make sure it gets a good ground.Very informative as usual
NO! Doesn't need or use the body ground on this setup. All you would be doing is making a spot to rust!
good tip . just because it clicks doesn't mean it works . i sawed one apart once , either from a mower or a 1960s ford , and found a thick copper washer that (when not burnt/pitted like mine) makes contact between the large posts when activated .
I've used that trick to start cars before.
Great video. I never would've known you can bypass the solenoid to start the engine. I have a Husqvarna with a twin cylinder Kohler engine. I'll have to check out the solenoid configuration to see if I'm able to bypass it, too, in case in the future my solenoid clicks and won't start.
Did I hear thunder, at the beginning of this video?
Yes there was thunder!
do you have any video on how to shower a really dirty lawn mower engine thank yoy!
A lot cheaper fix than a Deere solenoid ..
I guess prisons have a lot of riding mowers that have start problems 😅
Did you really have to replace the battery? 🤔 You couldn't charge the old one first?
I dont know what the heck is wrong with mine. I can turn the key and it spins like it wants to fly away...lol Spins really fast with top speed momentum that almost shakes the frame. But it just does not seem to have the put put resistance going on. I can turn it with my hand, and there seems to be resistance like compression I guess. Dang thing is killing me.
Sounds like you are not getting fuel.
@@pokejuice1495 It wound up being a piston rod...so I had to retire old gal, after 17 years of faithful service. RIP to my babe😭
So while you have it replace head gasket and camshaft lol
Actually , while you're at it, replace that POF mower with one that is LOWER PRICED and is more reliable. JD is OVERRATED and OVERPRICED!
It does nothing when I do that
Really need help with my Push mower..i have a briggs and straton OHV .. it makee slight popping sound... i adjusted the valve clearance, increase the RPM, replaced the flywheel key, cleaned carb, new gas .. .. new spark plug and still didnt make any difference .. it goes away for 5 min then come back again.. can seems to find any video on YT ... thanks
Hey donyboy73 my friend has craftsman lt1000 starts up and runs for about ten, fifteen minutes and won't start back up. Says that he had new parts on. I am confused 😕 could new plunger work at first and then sticks for carburetor???❤🦅🦅🦅🙌👏
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Not to nit pick, but I would also have checked for a solid ground on the black wire and 12V on the purple wire when in the "start" position. Sometimes a bad key switch can interfere with the 12V solenoid position and prevent it from starting.
Not only that, but if there was a problem with any of the safety switches or their wiring, you wouldn't get 12V on the purple wire either.
The fact that it was turning over and STARTING while jumping the solinoid was enough to show it was the solinoid. The other checks would could have been helpful if it DIDN'T start. He did the easiest and fastest test first.
@@videodistro You're partially correct. If it didn't start (or at least turn over) by jumping the solenoid, it would mean either the starter was bad or something wrong with the wiring going to the starter - nothing else can cause it. Because the solenoid clicked when he tried to start it with a key, automatically means the purple wire has 12V going to it - it wouldn't click at all if there was no voltage.
So it probably didn't need a new battery
Like I mentioned the old battery wouldn't even produce a click, after testing it it had to be replaced.
It’s one am,I’m in a hospital bed, 3 iv’s going into me, waiting for morphine, and I have a bunch of dony boy videos to watch and 3 frozen smuckers Pby sandwiches to eat. What else could I ask for ?