A Song of Ice and Fire Theories: Euron Apotheosis - What Is Evil? (Part 1)
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- In A Song of Ice and Fire Euron Greyjoy was the second born son of Quellon Greyjoy, lord of the Iron Islands. It seems that even from his earlier days there existed darkness within him, a darkness that only grew with time. I believe Euron is a psychopath. According to the dictionary, psychopathy is defined by impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, and egotistical traits. The word psychopath does not imply delusional thought or irrational action. Euron thinks extremely highly of himself and is incapable of empathizing with other people. And now he seeks final Ascension. The Horn, Victarion, and Holy Men all seem key to Euron’s Grand Plan.
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I made a mistake in this video. I said that Euron Greyjoy was the second born son but he is actually the fifth born son. He was born after Balon. Two of the older ones died as infants and one was sick of greyscale and murdered by Euron.
Do share! It can't be any more stupid than what D&D have done to ASOIAF. @Krish Nair
@@TheAstroWitchLux I'm loving the season so far, especially the last episode. Best of the series so far.
I would just like to suggest that maybe you should just pop a champaigne bottle for the end of the show. Or at least just toast with orange juice the end of all of this.
I got an idea u could do for a book and show comparison.
Display all differences that u can.
Ie. Which characters were not included integral to the plot/lore etc.
Which characters were changed for no fucking reason other than shitty writing.
Which prophecies and arc were raped and butchered and plot armoured. Ie. Azhor Ahai.
This could be a series type and help the longevity of ur channel. I love it and had seen it back in season 5 days but lost u among other got content.
So glad I re'found u during season 7 and had some1 share in therapeutic reasoning and logic.
@@Blood0cean preston jacobs has a video series like that: what you are missing. S1 through s5 done so far i think
If Sauron was in s08e05:
"I never really cared about the ring. "
It was about the friends be made along the- oh wait
I was kinda forgot about the ring
The flag is Euron's third eye. Maybe proof of his connection with the three eye crow.
Has Melissandre seen Euron in her flames? She hasn't seen Dany
is eurons valyrian steel armor real? i always kind of assumed there was no way it could be real, and if it was, its like the only suit of armor a sailor might not drown in, which makes it unbelievably perfect for euron
What is the name of the background music used in this video?
When u r going to do part 2
Euron is absolutely terrifying. The casual way he spoke of abusing his brothers made my skin crawl. Way worse than Ramsey...
Even more chilling is his apocalyptic sayings out of the mouth of such a believable human monster. He truly sees himself as a dark messiah, brought forth to strip all goodness and spirituality from the world, and maybe even humanity, itself.
Agreed Euron is evil incarnate.
Ramsay is just a sadistic dumb boy if ramsay saw euron he will shit his pants
aque quez maybe in The books but not in the show thats for sure
He pretty much asoiaf equivalent of heath ledger joker.
I always get the impression that the actor who is Euron really wants to play the book character.
Judah Earl He did say something of the sort on Instagram that he wished the show took more influence from book Euron.
The way they wrote the show version of Euron is bad, I think we can all agree on that. That said I think that Pilou Asbæk played him well, and I did get some book Euron wibes from him time to time. No one can turn turd in to a bar of gold, but Pilou tried and I can respect that.
Riisseli Eurons introduction in the show was exactly like book Euron, it woulda been incredible to see more of that
He pretty much confirmed that in a podcast and thinks the last few series of GoT are trash.
What are you guys talking about because on one of the Thrones inside the episode’s he said he didn’t read the books or any material about book Euron and that from the script he surmised that Euron is just crazy. This is why he’s more like a backstreet boy than Crow’s Eye from the books. He was more annoying than sadistic. Show Ramsay was 1000 times more cruel, evil, and sadistic than show Euron. This is a fact.
Book Euron: Incarnation of Cthulu the God of Dreams
Show Euron: Evil Jack Sparrow
Show Euron can't even begin to compare to Jack Sparrow.
Jack Sparrow was funny.
Cthulu isnt the god of dreams
@@eloncohen9968 Well Cthulhu the Great Dreamer of R'lyeh. Inspires prophetic dreams of when the Stars are Right and His Children return to the surface.
Book Euron is a character pulled from some Lovecraftian horror story
Show Euron is a character pulled from Pirates of the Caribbean
It would be so hilariously one-sided but I'd pay to see book Euron just wreck show Euron
To be honest watching pirates of the Caribbean as an adult shows me how insanely in depth some of the character motivations and plans are. Jack Sparrow of all people is actually a far more manipulative and potentially sinister character at times than show Euron. He's not overtly a fuckhead, and he is quite comical, but he's a cunning genius in the first three movies. It's a shame that Game of Thrones of all things can't beat that.
Pirates of the Caribbean was far better.
@@wafflingmean4477 lmao game of thrones can't even beat fuckin disney nowadays
Pirate of the carribbean already have an Euron Greyjoy version. His name is Davy Jones
What could be worse than a pirate lord God king sorcerer who may be an avatar of Cuthulu?
A finger in the bum.
@@conlinbryant5037 Littlefinger in the bum.
D&D.
@@misery441 To be honest they were gods they brought death and destruction to everyone’s beloved series
Let's be real...we all know that the magical warlock pirate with Valyrian Steel Armour is going to die to a one handed Jaime Lannister on a random beach.
Man, thank the gods I got away from that Dragon. I sure hope Jaime Lannister is on that beach by the secret entrance to The Red Keep. Better swim 3 miles that way in 15 minutes!
@@Lupostehgreat Navy Seal Euron
Actually that would be pretty amusing in the books, if written well. 😅
Eh, the show was written by D Benioff, who when writing 2004's Troy deviated heavily from the original Illiad epic, ending included, so it's not too unreasonable he helped deviate from Martin's planned epic's ending
The guy who plays Euron has read the books. I think he was the most disappointed by the character. He told in an interview he won't be watching the finale. "I'm being completely serious." He added.
Brutal.
That's so sad. He was clearly looking forward to playing Euron and hyped him up as being a much bigger villain than Ramsay. He got completely punked by D&D.
he was probably so stoked when he got the role, and *THEN* they gave him his script. 😂😂😂 poor guy
Where did you find this info?
@@buckledben wikiofthrones.com/25428/pilou-asbaek-reveals-he-was-bummed-to-find-show-euron-different-from-the-book-version/
Here's my rough take: Euron, Bran, Bloodraven, and the Faceless Men are all operating within the realm of the Great Other (Death) in their own ways, though they may not all be working toward the same ends.
First, the connection between the House of Black and White, shade of the evening, and the weirwood trees. Shade of the Evening is made from black trees with blue leaves, contrasting with the weirwood trees with their white wood and red leaves. Shade of the evening and weirwood paste both produce roughly the same effects when consumed -- taste like a mix of every flavor in your memory, then evoking prophetic visions. The Faceless Men also use incense with similar properties, and their door is famously carved from black and white wood, while they dress in cloaks of black and white.
Second, the connection between the Faceless Men and the Doom of Valyria. They are former slaves who worked in the volcanic mines of Valyria (likely excavating dragonglass and dragonsteel) but who are implied to have brought about the Doom of Valyria by assassinating the magi who maintained the Fourteen Flames. This nearly wiped out the Targaryens and even killed many of their dragons. I feel like this positions them, generally, as enemies of "fire" (life / light) and thus allies of "ice" (death / darkness).
Third, the connection Euron has to, well, _everything._ He has at least hired a Faceless Man to kill his brother, and quite possibly to procure a book from the Citadel with details on how to kill dragons, and some theories suggest he may be a Faceless Man himself (note the many similarities between Euron, Daario, and the Alchemist, all perhaps the same man, or many men using the same face). He is heavily implied to be a "fallen dreamer," perhaps a failed or rebellious former pupil of Bloodraven's, and his crow's eye implies another connection between the two. Then, of course, there's his particular form of atheism, in which he seems to learn from (and then torture) members of all faiths -- almost like a perversion of the concept of the Many-Faced God. There's also the imagery of him sitting upon the Iron Throne with all the gods impaled on its blades in Aeron's visions.
Fourth, the ultimate role for Euron and Bran. At this point, I'm pretty well convinced that the Night King is the show's rough stand-in for _true_ book Euron. Dragonbinder _is_ the Horn of Winter, or will be: Euron will bind Viserion and use him to bring down the Wall, unleashing the Others on Westeros, releasing a new god "born from the graves and charnel pits" -- the Great Other -- perhaps Euron himself, the "godliest man ever," a personification of the Many-Faced God. I believe that if Euron is a fallen pupil of Bloodraven, than Bran will be the one who stands against him. Whether Bloodraven is a servant or enemy of the Great Other, Bran will stand (or rather sit) in opposition. Same way that he opposes the Night King in the show.
Fifth, what this could mean for Arya. If the Faceless Men are truly a death cult in service of the Great Other (long ago destroying Valyria and halting the production of weapons that kill the Others and wights), then does that mean they are allied generally with Euron, or do they simply seek to maintain balance between (black and white)? It certainly seems that at least the Alchemist is conspiring with him. Will Arya rebel against them, or will she act on their behalf to prevent Euron for tipping the scales? Could this be the nugget that lead to her ultimately killing the Night King in the show? Will she kill Euron In the books?
Red Sparrow I don’t know if your theory is right, but I’d certainly be excited to read that story.
Just one little thing, targaryens weren't the lords of valyria freehold, they were one of the many ruling families there. Just like one of the many lords in westeros
Pog Champ And not even particularly powerful among the Dragonlords, either.
Excellent analysis, especially the insight that the Night King is the show's stand in for book Euron, who is one evil, apocalypse-bringing dude.
Great theory it was great reading it
Book Euron: I am a god
Show Euron: *grabs nuts* I FOOKED THE QUEEN
Everybody in westeros : We've all fucked the queen .
It's interesting to me that GRRM talks so much about how he enjoys writing grey characters, when it seems like he also really delights in writing completely loathsome villains. Like a Ramsay or a Rorge or a Gregor Clegane, there is nothing sympathetic about Euron, but he remains a fascinating character precisely because of how repugnant and soulless he is.
@Jethro Torczon I saw a theory that Gregor was suffering from a benign brain tumor which would explain his splitting head aches and possibly his violent personality. Also, he was addicted to opium (milk of the poppy)
pure evil characters are interesting for the same reason pure good characters are: seeing how they maintain their convictions in a world of grey morality. Captain America is an example of a pure good character done right. So is Superman. they're interesting BECAUSE they try to stay noble in a world that doesn't want them to be. Pure evil characters are equally engaging.
Book: Euron Greyjoy
Show: Urine Gayboy
I liked that comparison,
Be warned wiley schmitt....
I will be stealing that phrase, 😎
I've been warned. Have fun with it :)
🤣🤣
In these times of Dumb&Dumber induced agony, we have Quinn. You sir are the real Prince That Was Promised
Ha ha, dumb and dumber induced agony is a great phrase---you wanna hear the most annoying sound in the world?
YES some book content in the middle of this shitshow, thank you darling
It's probably been said a lot, but you need to narrate some Audiobooks, damn your voice is great.
JHTheHurricane right I got chills down my spine when he portray Euron voice it’s so creepy and evil
That’s MAD work. The asoiaf audiobooks are like 40-50 hours long, and that’s the finished product. I know they’re long books’, but even a shorter book takes (100-200 pages) probably takes a long time I imagine
Must check out his patch face video then
Euron the type of guy to buy McDonalds and eat it at Burger King
Or a Popeyes Chicken sandwich in front of chained up starving people and forcing them to fight for a crumb
Evil is what the writers are doing to the show.
Book Euron is the literal Antichrist. Pilou wanted to play Book Euron and was excited as hell and they wasted him.
they wasted so many talented actors and even veterans. the guy who played doran martell, alexander siddig i think, the lady who played olenna, the dude cast for areo hotah, aidan effing gillen, ser barristan selmy, elaria sand played by the incredible indira varma, etc etc...
such an all-star cast wasted on pointless arcs and deaths made just for the shock value of killing a character with zero payoff.
Maggy Frog Even the young ones. Emilia has been acting out the shit of this garbage they have given her. Kit has like three lines this season and Isaac is just staring to people. Dinklage and Headey are only good for staring and stuff.
@@panmpap4679
LOL so true. even maisie and sophie both have grown in talent. alfie allen gave it 120%. brienne of tarth forced to fall in love and have sex with jaime, and you can see she is an incredible actress. they should have ended her arc with the knighthood, but no, she's jaime's rebound girl. yuck. what a shitty arc.
even grey worm and missandei have been reduced into token ideas of blind revenge. missandei screaming dracarys is so out of character. but d&d are like "YaSs GuRL".
@@maggyfrog lets not forget missandei is like 9 in the books. just no.
@asari shepard
about the pacifist thing, missandei is definitely out of character. but i don't really mind that she is a woman in the show and not a child like in the books. let's say that 9-year-old girl in the books grew up, she would still be a pacifist and would not want innocent people to die.
yes, she followed dany as a freed woman but that's because dany uses her dragons to free the slaves and help the masses from the tyrants. that dracarys scream just ruined her character for me, whether she was an adult or a child. she used to be a slave. why would she tell dany to kill civilians?
It's really disappointing knowing that there were so many potentials for this mysterious caharcter.
That a Charlie Chaplin moustache on Oli?
@@theblancmange1265 Olly* and no it's hitler's
Please do more of these type of videos your Euron voice is so good
Agreed! It was perfect, quite unique actually.
he's got a sick normal voice!
His voice is awesome. He does great narrations
Thomas Bowe I was listening to his It narration and it just fits him so naturally
He should totally narrate the whole books
“I believe Euron is a psychopath.”
Really? What gave it away?
Book: A man worth hating
Show: A joke worth laughing
Euron is symbolic of the Bloodstone Emporer from the Great Empire of the Dawn lore I believe, perhaps this means Euron's actions will end up being a direct cause or catalyst of the long night?
Freezer Boi I like your thinking.
That's a cool idea I'd like to see being true
That just leaves the question now... If Euron Greyjoy is, infact, the Bloodstone Emperor who stared the Long Night. Then... Who`s the Prince to be Promised?... Who will be the one to rise against Euron and raise Lightbringer? Or... Will there be multiple heroes to up pose him? Think about it? In all the stories told. It`s the Bloodstone Emperor who sets the Long Night in motion. But there is always a hero that stops, his name is known not just as Azor Ahai, he`s also known as Neferion, Hyrkoon the Hero, Eldritch Shadowchaser and Yin-Tar. Now sure it`s easy to that "Ooh these names just refer to same person, it`s just a coincidence." Coincidence? I think not. It`s possible that maybe there wasn`t just one, but in fact multiple individuals who opposed the Bloodstone Emperor`s corruption. I mean, it`s stated in the books that it`s in Asshai that we get the legend of Azor Ahai. So that just leaves it open for more possibles.
Now all of this is just my opinion, and me just making a crazy theory up. So take everything i just said with pounds worth of salt.
@@trystenlyth1139 I personally believe they do all refer to the same person. But it's not a coincidence. The difference in names come from the fact that each of the different region's (that make up the Great Empire of the Dawn, which the Long Night ended) telling of the events alter the legend so that the hero is someone of their own region. The hero is called Azor Ahai in the Asshai'i legend. Neferion in the legend from the city of Nefer. Hyrkoon the Hero is the legend from the Patrimony of Hyrkoon. Yin Tar is the hero from the Yi Tish legend. All of these legends describe the same event: a hero that rose up to push back the demons of the long night, however since the Great Empire collapsed during the long night and all of these smaller nations formed from its remnants, it makes sense that each one would try to brand the hero who ended the long night as having been one of their own.
@@warpedwhimsical That`s true. It was just a crazy idea a had in my head for a split second considering the idea of Euron being similar to the Bloodstone Emperor, and there`s hints that either Dany or Jon could be Azor Ahai.
TV Euron needed this build up to kill a dragon, and Dany needed more build up to become mad queen. They have times and resource to do it, instead they build up something else just to throw it away in the last season lol
Just picture Euron sitting on the Iron Throne, as a king, in the books
I think he will
The horror!
I kind of want the books to end with Euron winning.
It would be a very ASOIAF ending for the Others to be defeated, only for it to turn out that Euron actually achieved his apotheosis, becoming a new eternal threat that must be confined to the depths of the sea, rather than the Lands of Always Winter.
It would be even more awesome if, when/if the books introduce the Night King, it turns out that he was just another Euron-like figure from the ancient past that figured out how to achieve his own apotheosis, only he focused on the COTF and warging and necromancy instead of Valyrian fire and blood magic.
Gabriel So Night King will be an Asian man hopping over from the other side of the planet to harass the north? I still think having him be an apotheotic Stark, perhaps even a close relative to Brandon the Builder is the best option as GRRM said he will not explore Yi Ti, Leng, or Asshai within the ASOIAF series
Gabriel Well yes but in the case of Azor Ahai, he was a mythical historical figure who had lived and presumably died, and the Red Faith believers are merely looking for his representative or reincarnation. Same thing with the Bloodstone Emperor, he lived, betrayed the Yi Ti such as with the Night's King, and had been dealt with. He could be the Night King equivalent but wouldn't he be more likely to take revenge on the weakened leaders of Yi Ti and assault it's Blackstone Walls rather than doggedly harass the wildlings and the Starks? There almost seems to be some sort of intelligent intent behind the targetting of Westeros, and I feel had the White Walker Bloodstone Emperor been active we'd be seeing more White Walker activity against Asshai, the Dothraki, and the Jade Sea and these horrifying stories would most definitely have reached the Free Cities via traders who currently dismiss the White Walkers as no more than Westerosi/Yi Ti superstition right now along with much of Western Essos.
Gabriel I was asking the question of why the White Walkers are currently putting all their efforts on Northern Westeros? Considering how Yi Ti is currently fractured into several warring states, it might be that they have some sort of analog to the Brotherhood of the Night's Watch and the warring states simply shrug off rumors about the White Walkers similar to the Seven Kingdom but until it's confirmed, we'll never really know. But this brings about another question as to why the White Walkers haven't simply crossed the Bone Mountains to fight the Dothraki and the Ibbenese, or navigate the shadowlands to sack Asshai. White Walkers don't seem like the fearful type and wouldn't just stop because of the Dothraki's reputation, and it's not like the Bony Mountains are an inhabited and well-defended fortification. Either there's some form of magic preventing the Eastern White Walkers from invading Essos, the Yi Ti have somehow defeated their Eastern Front already in some culminating battle, they're building force there as well, or most of them have been relocated to fight in Westeros.
Gabriel Well GRRM will not explore Eastern Essos in ASOIAF so anything we'll find out about what happens there will mosy likely be second hand knowledge in the events to come
Gabriel Would be interesting to see a spinoff about a Jon Snow-like figure in Yi Ti played by Steve Yeun who tries to unite the warring Yi Ti states and tries to set aside their differences with the Jogos Nhai, Hyrkoon, Leng, Asshai, and Ibbenese in order to form a coalition to deal with the White Walkers in the east
my theory is that this euron will bind viserion to his will. they gave viserion to the night king in the show but it seemed too easy, that whole ranging plot to show cersei what a wight is is so stupid.
Patchface is going to sit on the Iron Throne. Mark my words!
Jacob Hansen yes
No that'll be Moon Boy
@@danktroll4433 The lost Lannister.
I know, I know, I know!
It’s gonna be Ser Pounce 😉
Euron is like a magic patrick bateman basically
Even Patrick Bateman can't even rival this dude
Ha ha! totally. I can see him obsessing over the texture and look of the dragon horn.
Davy Jones!
Oh man, imagine Cristian Bale playing Euron.
Euron : *Kills Victarion with an axe* TRY GETTING AN AUDIENCE WITH DAENERYS NOW YOU STUPID BASTARD!
Crappy show Euron killed a dragon.
I think psycho god-King book Euron will take one of her dragons and ultimately it will die.
If Dany has to kill 1 of her sons that’d be the feels
Hell, he might even sacrifice the dragon along with all the holy men and his brother, to facilitate his ascension.
I think he’ll take a dragon and possibly give it to the Others to make a pact
Damn it’s been awhile since I’ve reread ASOIAF I almost forgot how f*cking terrible Euron is because of...well, what they did to him in the show 🤧🤧
If by chance they ever make Game of Thrones RPG...
...Euron MUST be voiced by Steve Blum.
Chicken Draws Dogs YES! That would be perfect!
And Victarion by Patrick Seitz
Nah, Crispin Freeman...Euron is like a nastier alucard
I think travis fimmel (ragnar lothbrok ) would of made a great Euorn .
35oo hell yes. And portray a psycho Viking trying to become god-emperor not a poor excuse of a pirate
i think if he had a more evil twist to ragnar lothbrok and more sadistic emphasises that would = Euron grayjoy books version or close to it , of course its not all up for the actor after all ,but rather the writing would play a big roll , but travis would be a better castin for his experience , even his facial expressions would do the work , he played in a film called warcraft he had a black long hair if he had an eyepatch he would look the part , but still its all about the story .
I think if the writing was a bit better , instead of Euron having his thirst for cersi he would of raped her then kill her and take her kingdom , afterwards wait for dany and defeat her in the first battle and taking at least on of her dragons , dany goes to jon snow and theres the walkers story , whatever they do with it and however they want to end it , Euron should be the final villain.
He's got the eyes for it
Our father, Travis lothbrok, whose light shines all that there is and whose glare causes all population to require diapers... He will be great indeed :)
It's true that Ragnar never had a truly evil moments, but he is cruel on some occasions. If he would have to play someone evil, he would nail it.
*Vikings spoilers*
There were the scenes with jarl Brog "Like wings" and the blood eagle itself (2x6,x27), all his trolling of Saxons with the heads of their friends (Mainly 2x1 and 3x2), and his grins at people he hated and intended to kill (All throughout the show).
Can you talk about summer fashion ideas next video? Thanks
Winter is coming
Book Euron: I am your King, I am your God.
Show Euron: i aM gOnnA fuCk tHe QuEeN.
finger indabum
The sea of blood prophecy is fascinating. By the Forsaken chapter, Euron's fleet is at the Redwyne straits between the Arbor and the Three Towers, with the powerful Redwyne fleet facing them from one mouth of the strait, and the Hightower fleet and Lyseni Sellsails from the other. It seems that Euron's fleet is doomed, by Aeron's account they have around 36 longships along with a few prizes of war including a great cog. Against them are 200 warships and 1000 merchant ships of the Redwyne fleet and a presumably significant number of Hightower ships. The 100 ships of the Iron Fleet, the best that the Ironborn have, are approaching Meereen under Victarion's command and the remaining Ironborn ships (reportably 1000 in total) are mysterious absent. It seems that Euron is in a terrible position and badly outnumbered, and yet he planned to be in this position. Obviously the Redwynes and Hightowers are the ones sailing into a trap, but I wonder what it could be? It probably involves the missing Ironborn ships and perhaps Krakens and blood magic. There's a reason for the priests being tied to the prows of the ships after all. Either way, the Redwyne straits will soon be red with blood.
One of your best videos so far.
Keep up the work about the books!!!
Considering how different he is in the books and how major his story is being set up, I can't imagine other characters stories playing out the same way. Especially Daenerys. I highly doubt she's going to do what she did at the end of the show. With characters as evil as this having dragons, Cercei being highly foreshadowed as the second coming of the mad king, wanting to burn KL in wildfire, it'll be so strange for it to end with Dany burning KL in rage, becoming a strange villain by the end. Absolutely no way that's happening. I think her ending will be one of the most different to the show. So many other aspects are part of her story, such as Aegon and evil Tyrion, then you add this mad man coming for her dragon and add Jon Snow who'll be less of a man than before. The story isn't going the way it did in the show.
i cant believe they made books about the tv show!! i cant wait for some epic yass kween moments
Omg! Like, I know right? I wish they would just stick to the show and stop adding stuff, wtf is this Darkstar? And Arianne Martell? And they don't even kill off that old guy Doran, boooooring!!!!!
@@Arkaine197 fully agreed! If I wanted to read a real book, I would just go to library. These are books from the show and it just is not right to improvise! That Martin guy should stick strictly to the show and stop trying being smart-ass by adding extra boring stuff to the book.
Roland Deschain for real. He should not forget how killed the night king and don’t he dare change anything about that
@@jasonallenprice2067 they were being sarcastic dumbass
@@jasonallenprice2067 r/woooosh
Just started reading AFFC. You're so right the king's moot was incredibly captivating in this book. Actually think Euron will steal/kill one of dany's dragons.
AFFC is the best of the books imo, I hope you enjoy it as much as I did
A mere of reddit I saw
Book Euron: Picture of Davy Jones
Show Euron: Picture of some cartoon pirate.
People were complaining the OP has insulted the said cartoon pirate.
And then there’s TVshow Euron...
Euron is one of the most interesting characters in the books. The mystery GRRM has created around him is palpable. The Forsaken is right at the top with The House of the Undying for best written chapter IMO. Both a beautifully composed and stuffed full of secrets and symbolism. Great video, cant wait for the next one.
I watched the whole series before I ever even looked at one of the books. The book version of Euron is such a good character, the tv show did not do him justice. I think book euron is even more twisted and evil than Ramsay
Game of thrones:
"Soooooo he's just a wackie pirate guy right?"
"butterfly God of Naath"
Now THAT is interesting. Missandei is the only named character in ASOIAF from Naath. I wonder if the show indeed does have some similarities to the books to come and that Euron might indeed kidnap Missandei if/when she arrives to Westeros.
Someone here said it. Had they more seasons Travis Fimmel from Vikings would have made an awesome psycho god-Emperor Euron.
I’ve built Euron up so much in my head that I’m now afraid George won’t deliver. Idk what it is about Euron (I guess the mystery behind him the most) but he’s so damn interesting for not having much known about him yet. I’ve watched every video and every theory about the book version and now I’m afraid that his character might be wasted or won’t live up to the hype. You could seriously write a 7 book series on this guys life alone.
He defenetly will. there are so many clues and forshadowing of euron:s significance that ascends the throne wars that a writer of the caliber of grrm will not deliver.
That was a fantastic and much needed palate cleanser!
Show's Euron to book's Euron is what Dark Helmet is to Darth Vader. I am pretty sure they would have casted Rick Moranis just couldn't get him
I still don't get why the show did not give us book Euron... It would have made the show balls to the walls crazy and everyone (IMO) would have loved it
This made me even more sad to realise what we have been fed by the show, and what we have been missing ...
Imagine Nightking making it to kings landing and clashing with Euron ! That would be a fantastic show ...
Also, isn’t Euron going to see Dany in his ships? I wonder if we’re getting Euron x Dany in the books like Cersei x Euron in the show🤔 it would make sense for where Dany’s arc is heading
I think we'll have Euron allying with fAegon and offering to take a dragon from Dany for him, Victarion will be the one to take Dany to Westeros and be his ally (not that he'll survive long). Euron represents everything Dany doesn't like, I doubt she'll trust him enough to follow him. She has 3 dragons and a good army (I doubt she'll have as many Dothrakis as in the books) I doubt having a psychopath at her side is something she's looking forward to... She'll soon have Tyrion, Jorah and Marwyn at her side in addition to Barristan (he seems to survive the battle of Meeren), she still has her 3 trusted Dothrakis bloodriders (still wonder why they died in the show) they will enough to stear her clear of that madman... FAegon might soon lose Jon Connington to greyscale so he might be more open new people...
eliciabonnie Very true!
@@eliciabonnie yes but fAegon has Varys and Illyrio; who are both smart to see beyond Euron and his madness . Varys is smart and secretly has a heart beyond the cold mask I doubt that Greyjoy caught in his ego and world building would foul cunning Varys but then again Euron has a mute ship (hard to get information from ) and his claws are everywhere
All Of This Just To Kill Jaime ? :Kappa:
Evil is taking the last slice of pizza without discussing it over with your mates. Or cleverness. Or stupidly brave.
Hmm.
Nope its changing the house wifi password and telling no one else what it is.
@@minatodroger7890 My God. I'm so sorry.
@@aneffortlesssmile it's ok man I did cry just suffered for 3 days
Euron and Victarion are 2 of the best things that happened in the books.
Book Euron = a great modern interpretation of evil
Show Euron = the romantic comedy inversion of the evil book version
The show Euron, why did he choose that moment to fight Jaime
For crying out loud, they were in a war and needed more allies than enemies at the time
Show Euron is an insult to the book Euron
Because the showrunners are fucking retards who can't write a proper script,to save their lives.
Why did Varys,the ''Master of Whispers'',go to Jon on the beach,on broad daylight,in front of dozen witnesses and ask him to commit treason against Daenerys?
Why did Jaime decided to return to Cercei,after all the shit he went through and after she send Bronn to kill him and Tyrion?
Why did Tyrion,if he knew the secret passageway into the Red Keep,didn't organise a commando squad,to infiltrate the Red Keep and kill or capture Cercei? They could have avoided the battle.
Why did Daenerys went genocidal *AFTER SHE WON THE FUCKING WAR,WITH MINIMAL CASUALTIES OF HER OWN TROOPS AND CIVILIANS?* That was so retarded,even if she's a ''mad Targaryen'',you don't go Pol Pot on the city you try to conquer,after you conquered it!
Why is the dragon so OP all of the sudden?
Why are the Scorpion ballista weapons so useless?
Why did Arya,walked away from killing Cercei,after spending 7 seasons of preparing to do it?
Why the actual fuck,does nobody in this show know,how you defend a castle? You man the fucking castle walls and defend it,that's the whole point of having a castle, you don't position your troops outside the walls!!
the three most certain things in life 1. death 2. taxes 3. the GOT books being objectively better than the tv show
Heard alot of renditions of Euron's between the various youtube channels, and yours is by far the most chilling
I always interpreted the Sphinxes kneeling before Euron to mean Oldtown falling to him.
I've been trying to tell people that only watch the show.how.crazy euron is
Your opinions :
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In the show they basically made him into what Theon tried to be... A swaggering, but successful a**hole. Theon 2.0. Or you can imagine Theon as Steve Urkel and Euron as his "cool" alter-ego.
I love GRRM but I find his writing very mysterious and hard to read. I actually enjoy your commentary on his books better than his books. Thank you for all your hard work, this is truly a labour of love.
Euron for the Iron Throne. Pulling for my fav character!
Lmao, what does he care about the Iron Throne?
I’ll do you one better! WHY is evil?
Quin with his "am I turning you on yet" reading voice 😍😍😍
I think it's pretty obvious the Dusky Woman is Pyatt Pree. The cut out tongue, the way she hisses at Moqoro, the Warlock in the dungeon muttering "Pree Pree Pree" like he had screamed the words until his voice gave out. I'm still not convinced he went to Valarya. The Basalisk Isle's were littered with Valaryan Slavers. Some must have been so wealthy that a Valaryan Steel Suit could have resided there at some point. It's def possible he went there, but I'm far from convinced for now.
That's pretty cool how he takes priests from different religions and is gonna fuck them up all at once
I Just read The Forsaken today.
Poor damphair
I've always pictured Euron is what Voldemort would be if he lived in the ASOIAF universe. A psychopath with arcane knowledge of dark magic, who in his youth had a handsome and charming exterior and could get people on his side, but completely lacked empathy and lusted for ultimate power and immortality and to use this power to rule and dominate everything.
barbiquearea very similar. Though I think Euron is more a psychopath, chaotic figure. Voldemort is by his own merits a more calculated and intelligent person. Both evil though.
I don't get this: If Euron doesn't believe in the gods of men, why do consider the priests as holy? why does he think priest blood has more power than "regular" blood if he thinks that the gods (whatever they might be) don't exist?
I think he gets off on blasphemy
They ruined The Iron Islands,Dorne and left out Lady Stoneheart and Young Griff,D&D might as well have just taken a piss on A Feast For Crows and A Dance With Dragons with the way they "adapted" these novels.
I can not get enough of Euron. He's such a great fantasy villain.
Nice! one of my favorites from the books! Love from Japan!
Well you are famous for awesome anime . hope your people will make an anime version from the books . the whole world will thank you so much
Herold stokes from death flags vs euron would be interesting
I personally subscribe to the theory, that Euron attacks Old Town where he gets his hands on Sams old horn, which in a Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail twist turns out to be the real Horn of Winter which Euron restores and uses to bring down the wall in his quest for the bracking of the world and becoming a God ....
Watching this just makes me think “Wow. They really butchered this guy’s character in the TV show”
It's chilling to think this guy might wanna put a baby in Cercei, considering what he did to his last baby mama. Joke's on him though, #NotYourKid.
I'd just like to take a moment to say thank you for everything you do. Your passion, knowledge and love for ASOIAF always shines through, and after watching the end of the series I really needed to have a binge on your content as it gives me everything I was lacking from the show. Thanks again
I got the impression that Euron was being set up as the next big evil, after the defeat of the white walkers, to keep the series going. But then, ya know... Season 8. 😒
I always pictured mads Mickelson as euron especially after watching hannibal
I think Prestons Idea of the bloody sea as littlerly pouring blood in the water as chum for Krakens is better than your theroy of euron being evil.
Is just impossible how Euron is my favorite character from the books, while the one that less respect in the series
Wow this just shows that the books have more depths than the show. Euron Greyjoy is an very scary man and most of his followers probably won't second guess his motives due to fear. The book Euron is more dangerous than the one on the show.
It's a shame what Dumb an Dumber turn him into on the show, and show watchers will never know what they're missing out on.
We'll, I've read all the books and watched all the episodes (first the show then the books). Books sure are better...
@@PawelSorinsky yeah right the first season I got into the book's and never look back.
@@timothypolanco8622 However, they helped me a great deal in visualising the world.
@@PawelSorinsky Agree I don't think the show visuals were ever a problem, and actually help show how certain castles can look like from the book's like Winterfell. My only problem would be the writing, which is I believe a rebooted series in a animated format can really help this series.
Quinn missed your narratives having me see every word.
Another truly evil character who deserves an equally in-depth analysis is Doran Martell
Such a shame show Euron's actor could've easily pulled it off
You make great videos so I’m going to try to drop an idea I haven’t heard yet from episode 6.
Do you think Dany could have worged into Drogon, and that’s why the tense moment occurred with Jon (why he was sparred), and also why the Throne was burnt/destroyed (to complete the destruction of “the wheel”)?
What if Euron found the comet when sailing Essos, and it turned out to be the black oily stone
*_Thisssss¬¬^....is freaking BRILLIANT!!!!_*
I can't believe George wrote this universe he's a genius
I believe that the Euron crew is mute for more than one reason to scare people and also not to reveal that he did not go to Valyria, like even balerion got injured there right ? the Valirian steel armor that I think he bought in YiTi or somewhere in the east.
Bruh, there were little doubt of him going to Valyria when we only knew about the horn. The reveal of the valyrian steel armor should basically confirm it; having the tongues of his crew removed for such a petty reason (compared to everything involving Euron) is just lame.
@@fibo4108 so does that mean that after the doom and after thousands of years later, the armor still hung beautifully there? I don't think so .. the Valyrian peninsula was devastated, the ground caved in and the sea invaded the land, the volcanoes exploded and there is no way an armor survived
@@ferodrigues1211 Yes, why not? That's why Euron's reveal is so meaningful. I have no reason to doubt the most shady, ruthless and relentless character to date did indeed find a way to come out of Valyria alive.
"bought the piece of armor ina Yi Ti market" good God, that would be awful. It sounds like a D&D' subverted expectations plot twist.
@@fibo4108 i don't know man i will stick to my thoughts and let's wait to TWOW
@@ferodrigues1211 you would be good at writing Game of Thrones. Season 8, that is.