I'd welcome a Canon Yuuzhan Vong War. When the Sequel Trilogy ends, and another trilogy starts, a new evil faction will need to be introduced, and not one that's a remnent of the Empire. Something different. And the Yuuzhan Vong would be perfect.
SCII RapterNew Well, I hope you're not implying that they don't have money for it.... Because they have lots of money.... I honestly do not think there is a single movie that they couldn't put into production because of a price tag.
But apparently, Disney decided they'd call all of this legitimate Star Wars history "Legends" and discard it all together: therefore stating it NEVER even existed. That pisses me off.
Also, apparently somehow the history of the Givins of Yag'Dhul or anything like that that wasnt stated in the movies never existed, so; Palpatine seeking guidance on Korriban? NOPE. The great Korriban war? NOPE. I bet even the Alsakan conflicts are discarded.
Dude, the new official universe offers plainty of possibilities. The Legend thing is here to preserve the expanded universe. Of course expanded universe isn't canon, but it has never been canon at all. Expanded universe isn't even coherent. The Yuuzhan Vong storyline is just way over the top.
+az09Aintertest Way over the top? I'd say that the Yuuzhan Vong are beatifully depresing and dark. It brought the right kind of hopelessnes into the lore. Those guys should have stayed.
+az09Aintertest Well, there not really from the Star Wars Galaxy so that's why it seems like they don't fit in. In legends they were the reason why the First Order successfully risen. (I'm pretty sure)
Yes! The yuuzhan vong made a great enemy not only for the new republic, but for every living being in the galaxy, it also makes a nice dark story, something disney will not have the courage to ever do
+brandon cawley Honestly, I was pissed when I first learned about EU "Legends" getting thrown out by Disney. But the more I thought about it, the more it actually made sense. If I were in that position, and had to deal with possibly thousands of lore sources (and contradictions) and wanted to make a new series, I would have probably done the same. I don't think the Legends lore needs to be thrown away or completely ignored. I think it's more like an alternate timeline. Why not let people tinker and build with it, too? And then keep your canon timeline as well. That way there is much more to explore and enjoy on both sides.
I get crap for this from other old EU fans, but the Yuuzhan Vong war was one of my favorite story arcs in the EU, second only to Timothy Zahn's "Heir to the Empire" trilogy. Do I wish it were still canon? Absolutely. I'd have honestly killed to see new film trilogies based on both events... though a TV series might be needed for the Yuuzhan Vong war, too many important events to cover in just three films.
Same here. But to Lucas, Star Wars canon (prime canon) was episodes 1-6, the nature of the Force and the rough origins of the Jedi, Sith and the Republic, only. He considered everything else as rated from secondary to the infamous non-canon Holiday Special. I’m following that rule for the post RotJ era. So, post Ep6 EU Legacy and Disney’s continuation are in parallel universes for me.
346 trillion dead across the Star Wars galaxy. Yuuzhanvong saga would have had to be rated R to depict that amount of death. Disney would never go that way unfortunately....
Jacen Solo didn't kill "another important enemy". He killed Onimi, the jester of Supremem Overlord Shimrra. Onimi revealed himself as a telepath, and that he was the true leader and mastermind behind the entire Yuuzhan Vong invasion. Jacen Solo also for a brief time became the single most powerful force user in history when he became the "fulcrum" of the Force, becoming invulnerable to all attacks and turn Onimi's toxins against him. Luke's battle with Shimrra was a sideshow by comparison.
Fun Fact: They almost appeared in The Clone Wars, but didn't make it due to the shows cancellation. But im positive that the Yuuzhan Vong will appear in the new canon the same way Thrawn did.
Is it just me or is Disneys canon very uneventful after Endor. The first order still hasn't made the impact that the Empire did or CIS for that matter. The yuzhaan vong would have made a joke out of them. Disney wasn't aware that a lot of Star Wars fans have not even heard of the yuzhaan vong or grand admiral thrawn after Endor. It would have been fine to base the new trilogy after the original canon as not many people read into it. Out of all the friends and people I've met that are fans, I'm the only one who bothered into reading into the EU before and after Endor. This new canon is very very very uneventful.
+Rage Team While I love the EU, and read all of the Legends books, part of me is glad they didn't use it for the new movies. If they had, while i would have loved watching them, I would have known what was going to happen and expected the shocking moments/twists. Now with the new story line, I don't know what direction they are going to take and it is completely new to me. They just better still keep Luke as the Grandmaster and be the most powerful Jedi!
Like op said,the first order never made an impact and their "leaders" arent threatening at all.We have Tarkin 2.0 but honestly,hes nothing special compared to renouned admirals such as Thrawn.Then we have kylo ren which is a shittier version of Darth Caedus.Then we have yoda 2.0 aka luke and Palpatine 2.0 aka Snoke.Everything is not original about the new canon and i would orefer a story that *I* know would be good such as The swarm war so that all those movie only lovers could experience what made Star Wars ONE OF THE RICHEST LORE FRANCHISE IN HISTORY.
+SoaR Ram True but the real baddy here are not disney but JJ and producers around him. The producers around him wanted to give him so much free hands at his own story that they killed EU and now we have this stupid situation, were the new movies will cherry pick elements of the EU without doing it right and the story group and Filoni trying to salvage as much of the old EU as they can. Just to give the Thrawn example that it was rumoured the a Thrawn esque character would be there in episode VIII while same day rumours said Rebels Season 3 would have Thrawn in it. If thats true it seems that lucasfilm are in a situation were they have given the film people all the power and the story group with Pablo Hidalgo, Leland Che and Kiri Hart cannot do anything else than accept the film groups decisions.
Even though this is non canon, I wish someone would make movies about the Yuuzhan Vong war. It would be more intense than anything Star Wars has produced.
A couple things here to nitpick 1. The Yuuzhan Vong were not force sensitive, in fact they were invisible to it. The only way Jedi could detect them in the Force was by detecting the panic in other lifeforms, the only Jedi that could detect them were Tahiri Valari and Jacen Solo. 2. You completely omitted the role of Zenoma Sekot in ending the war.
Wedge Antilles 1) the Vong whete force sensitive before blowing up their homeworld which they shared a deep force bond with. The action traumatized them nulling their feel for the force. Actually a few vong regainex connection to the force with the vong true leading actually having regained his connection though a experiment and being driven mad by it.
It would have been great if Disney had the balls to make the new trilogy about the vong invasion. Forcing the empire and rebels to coexist against a greater enemy would have been interesting to see
I know this is really late but I disagree for one reason. There are 19 books and one comic series detailing the Yuuzhan Vong War. That's way to much for a single trilogy.
the problem is, K.Kennedy is at the helm of SW, and she's KNOWN to ignore/dislike/discard most of the EU; a serious fan/young exec would probably create a new Ep X-XII trilogy about the Vong with Rey as the New Jedi leader but KK would quickly dismiss it for no reason other than the "old EU" label
@@legoforbeginners6950 Yeah but same goes for the clone wars for example. They wouldn't have had to coer the entire war. Just key events: Vector Prime, star by star, Nifying force.
The Yuuzhan Vong series of books were fantastic. It brought a welcome change, instead of Jedi V Sith which is the SAGA episodes 1-6. It created a new threat to the entire Galaxy. The Sith & Jedi are poised to destroy themselves. There can't be darkside without lightside, there can't be Sith without Jedi for there to be true balance in the force there has to be both Sith & Jedi in the Galaxy.
But I thought Lucas stated balance in the Force was achieved through the predominance of the Light Side, WITHOUT the taint and corrupting influence of the Dark Side.
A few years later I find this. I wish the Yuuzhan Vong had remained canon. I honestly wish they had been adapted for the big screen, because they would have made a far more interesting threat than the New Order. I mean really the Yuuzhan Vong were one of the most serious threats ever introduced into canon. It would have been awesome!
I love the Yuzang Vong; they are such a horrifying and original concept. This story in the EU just shows what the sequel trilogy could have been. And it sure soudns a lot more interesting then the adventures of a cute British marry sue fighting an edge lord.
Man. This has to be one of the most overwhelming war that both the Rebel Alliances and the entire Republic has ever experienced! Much more intensifying than the Clone Wars.
What was the droid race? Was it some still active droids from after the clone wars or were they like necrons and were once organic beings that made themselves into machines?
They fought two droid races in their time, those being the Silentium and the Abominor, both of which were completely unrelated to the Clone Wars as they came from the same galaxy as the Yuuzhan Vong.
+TheCancrizans also how many droid armies were made over the Star Wars time line since there has been many different types of droid armies and how many of those became sentient since most droids seem highly dangerous due to their ser mass and ability to quickly adapt and change themselves as well as recycle dead brethren.
Just finished watching this last video (until you make more) and I started about 2 weeks ago with SW Lore I :Jar Jar. Greatly appreciate your work. Thank you for the entertainment and I will be tuned in for the rest to come. I am not upset with this war being uncannon bc it almost reminds me of Dragon Ball Z; the hero's conqueror the most powerful enemy ever (Friza, Androids, Cell, Bu. The only thing more powerful would be God(s)... And that's exactly who the new foes are.....gods). DBZ writers have to make an even stronger enemy to add on more episodes to the story. This Vong species suddenly comes from nowhere and is more powerful than any foe before. I'm sure there is way more depth to it and a very good read; and I could be completely wrong and I'm open to that as I have never read the books. Basing this oppinion on the video I just watched. And I still love DBZ even though Goku is on God fighting levels now. Just don't want something as great as the story of Star Wars to have any deluded story arc tacked to it just to further the story.
I'm not really fond of the Yuuzhan Vong because it gives Palpatine justification for becoming a dictator and creating a super weapon seeing how he knew they were coming. It kinda makes the Rebels look like bad guys for jeopardizing the safety of the galaxy by forming a government ill equipped for the attack after destroying the one that was ready.
I'm still trying to figure out how the Vong were so powerful. I mean were they blaster proof? Did their star destroyers out match those of the Republic and Remnant? How much range did they get with their weapons?
I think if the new trilogy had the Yuuzhan Vong as the enemy rather than more storm troopers, it could have made for a better story. Maybe we could still have the helping out the Yuuzhan Vong. And it would have been cool to have a new jedi order to fight. That was probably my least favourite thing about The Force Awakens, but don't get me wrong, I still loved the movie!
Justin Lacek I think they are actually extra galactic. But nobody would know, since they're not native to any particular planet or space body as far as we know
Grayson M. Well the flood were designed by the precursors as an attack on the forerunners, and the precursors are extra-galactic, so a case could be made for them being beyond the galaxy.
Absolutely wish this would have remained canon, so that would mean Jacen and Jaina Solo would have been canon. Episode 7 could have been like the Darth Cadeus story shortly after that and it would have been pretty interesting as a movie.
Loved the books, and the vong. It made so much more sense why jacen solo would turn to the dark side. Having his brother die than spending years in a vong work camp with the only one helping being a sith. Way better than "I woke up and he was standing over me with a lit light saber."
first off I want to say that video was excellent and thank you for it. second I was wondering a list of materials you used for your sources I would like to find as many books on the yuuzhan vong to read about. thank you
I have been your fan for a while now I love Star Wars and you make it even cooler by talking about things outside of the films don't stop what you do if you see this please respond
So, the population of a single world could create an army large enough to threaten an Empire consisting of the populations of thousands of worlds? And I'm the only one that sees something wrong with this picture.
Well technically the yuuzhan vong's does not only consist of their own kind.Before entering the jedi's galaxy,they had enslaved hundreds lf different creatures in which they use as their fodder and mindless soldiers while the actual vong act as their elite soldiers.
And who are these "enslaved" people? One story says they come from a world in the dark between Galaxies. So where did they get this population of "more" than a single world? Do a better job than the other guys . . . get the story straight. They come from a SINGLE WORLD between galaxies, or from another galaxy with thousands of worlds? Which is it? Make up your minds.
Anthony Hargis "A SINGLE World From A Single Galaxy".The races they got from their galaxy are basically the creatures that formed their ships while the others are the ones they enslaved in tje unknown regions.You have access to the internet,use it.
The Vong Wars should have been the new trilogy. The time in-between should have been Disney + shows. Hell Disney could have made a whole nother 6 films out of the Vong Wars.
While I enjoyed the stories of the Yuuzhan Vong war I feel it was most likely the main thing that led to the expanded universe being dumped simply because it would be too difficult to just kick off a series of films set after it without explaining many things that happened during and afterwards because of this war. Things such as the death of Anekin Solo and the falling to the dark side of Jacen Solo being the main ones in my mind. Personally I think it would have been great to have a film series based on this war, it could have been epic without re-doing all the Empire vs Rebels/Remenant story. It would also have been a good way to hand over to the next generation of actors as it shows the younger generation taking charge of most of the action. Unfortunately that would no longer be possible due to the age of the original cast by the time Disney got control.
The YV war is among my favorite sagas. It definitely should have been kept as cannon. Along with everything that took place between the fall of the empire and the YV war. That being said, I am somewhat curious to see what the new storyline will look like, and whether or not the YV will make a reappearance.
what if the yuuzhan Vong are the main enemy in episode 8 and or 9 or we get a teaser at the end of 9, where you see one of thier ships closing in? with thrawn being back into star wars cannon, and the Yuuzhan vong being his main drive to join the empire, this would be pretty cool!
can you do a republic forces video from all times such as old republic timeline republic from episodes 1-3 new republic from legends and new republic from episode 7
When the Republic and Inperials joined forces, it reminded me when the Jedi (Luke Skywalker) and the Sith (Darth Krayt) joined forces to defeat Abeloth
Paladin Boyd me too, and it looks like it's going that way because of episode 7 ... it's obviously using materials from the de-cannoned expanded universe like the paperback books and a female protagonist.
NJO was the 1st series of books that I read from the EU. What we now call Legends will always be 'my' Star Wars universe. I think of the canon universe & EU in terms of Star Treks JJ Abrams universe compared to the 24th century stuff...alternate timelines. I finished reading these in about 2006 so this was a good recap for me. I'm thinking of resuming with the Legacy and Fate of the Jedi series, so this reminded me where I was at.
The things he is telling in the video aren't canon, which includes Anakin Solo. Canon means that is has happend (in the star wars universe ofcource) noncanon means that it didn't happen.
Fucking pig shit rebels. All those rebels deserved to die while trying to get the death star plan thank god good vader cut them into tiny little pieces..
The vong were such a cool concept. They were not of the galaxy and were no longer of the force. The fact they were in the galaxy was so cool. Palpatine knew of them, darth maul fought and killed one. There is just so much lore the fact you couldn’t feel them through the force the fact when u fought one you had to only really on ur own body and skill not the force as much was amazing.
They lost for many reasons. They had become an enemy of the Force so twisted and evil the Force abandoned them completely. This allowed the Jedi to strike them down in the final hour. The Madalorians played them. Fett united with them but it was a double cross he was passing information to the Galactic Alliance. During that time Fett managed to build a Mandalorian army the likes of which had not existed for thousands of years and train them to fight the Vong. The Mandalorians eventually turned on the vong and were brutally efficient so much the Vong had to launch a major offensive on Mandalore which then turned into a stalemate. The Imperials had Gilad Pelaeon who took over the Imperial Remnant and lead them against the Vong. Thrawn gets a lot of love but Pelaeon was the one who really kept the Empire together. After the death of the Emperor he saved the Empires military power and he did so again after Thrawn died. He later used the loyalty of the Military to take control of the Imperial Remnant from the Moffs allowing him to fight as he wished. This resulted in several major victories against the Vong under his command.
Scourgelord Nathreim I really like how you promote Palleon but the reason why he was more successfull than Thrawn in keeping the Empire togheter is because as soon as Thrawn returned from the Unknown Regions, the relatively short time he had on hands he focused to muster what strenght there was available to gather ( improvising most of the time - Katana fleet, saboutaging the rebel fleet etc ) to crush the Republic and only after quickly taking out that threat, he'd channel all energy on restoring the Empire's original strenght. What is remarkable about Thrawns short apperance is that with limited resources he actualy managed to reconquer most of former Imperial territory. We never had the chance to see Thrawn in politics. Palleon had plenty of time and a great mentor. Not to downplay his role at all though. He was a great leader. But being a great leader *and* tacticaly unmatched is above that to me.
I have an idea for a video (if you haven't already done it.....you may have, and I just haven't found it yet). You should highlight the layout of the Galaxy, how big it is, the different parts of it, some short highlights about the different parts. Just get an overall sense of direction. I think that would be cool. I already love your videos! So whatever you put out will be awesome.
Here is how the Yuuzhan Vong were very nearly in Star Wars: The Clone Wars - th-cam.com/video/jZv0PytloYw/w-d-xo.html
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Can you do different yuuzhan vong biotech like the thud bug ( and it's variants), armor, and other ships?
I'd welcome a Canon Yuuzhan Vong War. When the Sequel Trilogy ends, and another trilogy starts, a new evil faction will need to be introduced, and not one that's a remnent of the Empire. Something different. And the Yuuzhan Vong would be perfect.
It'll probably the Empire again, since they're too fucking lazy to make something new.
And the budget for the Yuuzhan Vong Movies would cost fucking fortunes! LOL, take *that* Disney!
There's some truth in that sadly.
SCII RapterNew Well, I hope you're not implying that they don't have money for it.... Because they have lots of money.... I honestly do not think there is a single movie that they couldn't put into production because of a price tag.
Greer Jones but creativity is priceless, and Disney can never buy that
But apparently, Disney decided they'd call all of this legitimate Star Wars history "Legends" and discard it all together: therefore stating it NEVER even existed. That pisses me off.
Also, apparently somehow the history of the Givins of Yag'Dhul or anything like that that wasnt stated in the movies never existed, so; Palpatine seeking guidance on Korriban? NOPE. The great Korriban war? NOPE. I bet even the Alsakan conflicts are discarded.
Dude, the new official universe offers plainty of possibilities. The Legend thing is here to preserve the expanded universe. Of course expanded universe isn't canon, but it has never been canon at all. Expanded universe isn't even coherent. The Yuuzhan Vong storyline is just way over the top.
+az09Aintertest Way over the top? I'd say that the Yuuzhan Vong are beatifully depresing and dark. It brought the right kind of hopelessnes into the lore. Those guys should have stayed.
Jiří Seidl No way dude look at them, they don't fit into the Star Wars universe, those are just space orcs.
+az09Aintertest Well, there not really from the Star Wars Galaxy so that's why it seems like they don't fit in. In legends they were the reason why the First Order successfully risen. (I'm pretty sure)
If Thrawn had been alive and the Chiss in general had intervened, this war would have been over before it began.
Thrawn has supreme intelligence, but to me it looked like advantage in numbers and quality, something even a genius commander will struggle with
Sharky Prodiver Ultimately the alliance still won. Thrawn most definitly would have speeded up the entire process.
LKVideos that is true
The Chiss military isn't that strong, if it was they'd have destroyed the Vong already.
The Chiss sent Jagged Fel and his wing of Claw craft fighters and in the end it was enough lol...
Yes! The yuuzhan vong made a great enemy not only for the new republic, but for every living being in the galaxy, it also makes a nice dark story, something disney will not have the courage to ever do
The winter soldier...
+Elderzeth The Winter Soldier is supposed to be dark?
Orange Phoenix Brazier Supposedly
+strikeflyer aquamos You know that Dave Filony was planning to make the Vongs Canon in the Clone wars Season 8 right?
Yeah they would have kept the series fresh
Just imagine....this could have been episode 7 or 8 if it wasnt for Disney
+John Britha Hansen Ørgaard If it wasnt for f*****g disney.
if it wasnt for disney star wars would be stagnating and close to dead. but sure keep crying about it. because thats what grownups do yeah?
+brandon cawley
Honestly, I was pissed when I first learned about EU "Legends" getting thrown out by Disney. But the more I thought about it, the more it actually made sense. If I were in that position, and had to deal with possibly thousands of lore sources (and contradictions) and wanted to make a new series, I would have probably done the same.
I don't think the Legends lore needs to be thrown away or completely ignored. I think it's more like an alternate timeline. Why not let people tinker and build with it, too? And then keep your canon timeline as well. That way there is much more to explore and enjoy on both sides.
The Abominable Snowman correct. they can still work alot of eu back into cannon. SLOWLY. as to weed out inconsistencies.
brandon cawley
Exactly right. They've just started the story, and they can do exactly that.
I get crap for this from other old EU fans, but the Yuuzhan Vong war was one of my favorite story arcs in the EU, second only to Timothy Zahn's "Heir to the Empire" trilogy.
Do I wish it were still canon? Absolutely. I'd have honestly killed to see new film trilogies based on both events... though a TV series might be needed for the Yuuzhan Vong war, too many important events to cover in just three films.
Katherine Winyala next up, following rebels, Star Wars: The Yuuzhan Vong War
Same here.
But to Lucas, Star Wars canon (prime canon) was episodes 1-6, the nature of the Force and the rough origins of the Jedi, Sith and the Republic, only. He considered everything else as rated from secondary to the infamous non-canon Holiday Special. I’m following that rule for the post RotJ era. So, post Ep6 EU Legacy and Disney’s continuation are in parallel universes for me.
Hard agree
@@eds1942 well unfortunaly for you history won't see it that way
I want them to be canon.
346 trillion dead across the Star Wars galaxy. Yuuzhanvong saga would have had to be rated R to depict that amount of death.
Disney would never go that way unfortunately....
It would be rated R for plenty of other reasons...
graphic torture, beheadings, axes through the chest, toxins that make you cough up blood....
Weston Nale and using organic life for their own technology. So basically RIP the life out of you
The 1st order killed presumably tens of billions and that wasnt rated r
@@RollerDerbyHigh you mean "Diet coke empire"
Jacen Solo didn't kill "another important enemy". He killed Onimi, the jester of Supremem Overlord Shimrra. Onimi revealed himself as a telepath, and that he was the true leader and mastermind behind the entire Yuuzhan Vong invasion. Jacen Solo also for a brief time became the single most powerful force user in history when he became the "fulcrum" of the Force, becoming invulnerable to all attacks and turn Onimi's toxins against him.
Luke's battle with Shimrra was a sideshow by comparison.
Behold! The Yuuzhan Vong! An enemy easily WORSE than the Empire.
Fun Fact: They almost appeared in The Clone Wars, but didn't make it due to the shows cancellation.
But im positive that the Yuuzhan Vong will appear in the new canon the same way Thrawn did.
revan21 It would've taken Anakin and Thrawn fighting against the Vong who were assessing the strength of the republic.
Is it just me or is Disneys canon very uneventful after Endor. The first order still hasn't made the impact that the Empire did or CIS for that matter. The yuzhaan vong would have made a joke out of them. Disney wasn't aware that a lot of Star Wars fans have not even heard of the yuzhaan vong or grand admiral thrawn after Endor. It would have been fine to base the new trilogy after the original canon as not many people read into it. Out of all the friends and people I've met that are fans, I'm the only one who bothered into reading into the EU before and after Endor. This new canon is very very very uneventful.
The EU was much better in terms of nearly everything. The new Disney comics aren't eventful too.
+Rage Team While I love the EU, and read all of the Legends books, part of me is glad they didn't use it for the new movies. If they had, while i would have loved watching them, I would have known what was going to happen and expected the shocking moments/twists. Now with the new story line, I don't know what direction they are going to take and it is completely new to me. They just better still keep Luke as the Grandmaster and be the most powerful Jedi!
catmani2 Very true !
Like op said,the first order never made an impact and their "leaders" arent threatening at all.We have Tarkin 2.0 but honestly,hes nothing special compared to renouned admirals such as Thrawn.Then we have kylo ren which is a shittier version of Darth Caedus.Then we have yoda 2.0 aka luke and Palpatine 2.0 aka Snoke.Everything is not original about the new canon and i would orefer a story that *I* know would be good such as The swarm war so that all those movie only lovers could experience what made Star Wars ONE OF THE RICHEST LORE FRANCHISE IN HISTORY.
+SoaR Ram True but the real baddy here are not disney but JJ and producers around him. The producers around him wanted to give him so much free hands at his own story that they killed EU and now we have this stupid situation, were the new movies will cherry pick elements of the EU without doing it right and the story group and Filoni trying to salvage as much of the old EU as they can.
Just to give the Thrawn example that it was rumoured the a Thrawn esque character would be there in episode VIII while same day rumours said Rebels Season 3 would have Thrawn in it. If thats true it seems that lucasfilm are in a situation were they have given the film people all the power and the story group with Pablo Hidalgo, Leland Che and Kiri Hart cannot do anything else than accept the film groups decisions.
I would love to see an animated series about the Yuuzhan Vong. Everything Yuuzhan Vong should be canon
Even though this is non canon, I wish someone would make movies about the Yuuzhan Vong war. It would be more intense than anything Star Wars has produced.
A couple things here to nitpick
1. The Yuuzhan Vong were not force sensitive, in fact they were invisible to it. The only way Jedi could detect them in the Force was by detecting the panic in other lifeforms, the only Jedi that could detect them were Tahiri Valari and Jacen Solo.
2. You completely omitted the role of Zenoma Sekot in ending the war.
Wedge Antilles
1) the Vong whete force sensitive before blowing up their homeworld which they shared a deep force bond with. The action traumatized them nulling their feel for the force. Actually a few vong regainex connection to the force with the vong true leading actually having regained his connection though a experiment and being driven mad by it.
It would have been great if Disney had the balls to make the new trilogy about the vong invasion. Forcing the empire and rebels to coexist against a greater enemy would have been interesting to see
I know this is really late but I disagree for one reason. There are 19 books and one comic series detailing the Yuuzhan Vong War. That's way to much for a single trilogy.
they need to make the sequels non cannon
the problem is, K.Kennedy is at the helm of SW, and she's KNOWN to ignore/dislike/discard most of the EU; a serious fan/young exec would probably create a new Ep X-XII trilogy about the Vong with Rey as the New Jedi leader but KK would quickly dismiss it for no reason other than the "old EU" label
@@legoforbeginners6950 Yeah but same goes for the clone wars for example. They wouldn't have had to coer the entire war. Just key events: Vector Prime, star by star, Nifying force.
The Yuuzhan Vong series of books were fantastic. It brought a welcome change, instead of Jedi V Sith which is the SAGA episodes 1-6. It created a new threat to the entire Galaxy.
The Sith & Jedi are poised to destroy themselves. There can't be darkside without lightside, there can't be Sith without Jedi for there to be true balance in the force there has to be both Sith & Jedi in the Galaxy.
I like this way of thinking
whats the name of the books i gotta read em
Check out the series of nineteen novels called Star Wars: The New Jedi Order
+TheCancrizans thanks dude
But I thought Lucas stated balance in the Force was achieved through the predominance of the Light Side, WITHOUT the taint and corrupting influence of the Dark Side.
I feel terrible for all the writers who got there hard work literally erased
The yuuzhan vong are like the Mongols
pepe the frog And the Huns.
@@freakrx2349 Who do you think the huns are?
I wish what is now legends was still cannon
+ScabbyGuitarist Hendon it is disneys cannon is a spinn of not cannon to the main series
+ScabbyGuitarist Hendon its all perspective
+Red koi FROM MY POINT OF VIEW DISNEY IS CANON!
TheSteelEcho or you can look as disney`s cannon as a spin of lucas`s real cannon just saying
Red koi Wrong answer
This is still better than the new trilogy. The one thing I love about this is the empire and republic teamed up❤️
A few years later I find this. I wish the Yuuzhan Vong had remained canon. I honestly wish they had been adapted for the big screen, because they would have made a far more interesting threat than the New Order. I mean really the Yuuzhan Vong were one of the most serious threats ever introduced into canon. It would have been awesome!
There is so much good material Disney could have used here for future Star Wars movies, tv shows and video games
I wish this war remained as part of the story. It has such a great background and tale behind it that really is awe inspiring.
I love the Yuzang Vong; they are such a horrifying and original concept. This story in the EU just shows what the sequel trilogy could have been. And it sure soudns a lot more interesting then the adventures of a cute British marry sue fighting an edge lord.
rey isn't a mary sue bro
@@skoulikiagamwtanekrasas Yes she is
@@Avatar_Roku ok then
Man. This has to be one of the most overwhelming war that both the Rebel Alliances and the entire Republic has ever experienced! Much more intensifying than the Clone Wars.
A species of droid?
He needs to make a video about that.
sounds like Cylons to me!
One of these species appear in Star Wars Droids
Thanks Dude! This was an EXCELLENT viewing of the EU....YES I wish it was canon!!!! Please do The life of Jacen Solo/Darth Caedus next!!!!
What was the droid race? Was it some still active droids from after the clone wars or were they like necrons and were once organic beings that made themselves into machines?
They fought two droid races in their time, those being the Silentium and the Abominor, both of which were completely unrelated to the Clone Wars as they came from the same galaxy as the Yuuzhan Vong.
+TheCancrizans well how did these droid races come about?
+TheCancrizans also how many droid armies were made over the Star Wars time line since there has been many different types of droid armies and how many of those became sentient since most droids seem highly dangerous due to their ser mass and ability to quickly adapt and change themselves as well as recycle dead brethren.
pop puppy I'll need to research the topic further.
TheCancrizans I would use a defoliator cannon to kill the usonvong's armour and weapons
Thanks, that was so educational! Sounds like a way better movie option for 7, 8 and 9.
0:12 damn Necrons
ikr
the ark More than scary
the ark yeah!
the ark Faction?
the ark Imperium of Man
Thank you very much for doing an episode on the topic I asked for
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Wow what a fantastic video, I tried finding one that summarized the yuuzhan bong war well and I found it keep up the good work
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Yep
This is week six for me. I need a lore vid on her so bad! 😭
+TheCancrizans aye
+Ye Olde Gamertag #PrayerforShan
Just finished watching this last video (until you make more) and I started about 2 weeks ago with SW Lore I :Jar Jar.
Greatly appreciate your work. Thank you for the entertainment and I will be tuned in for the rest to come.
I am not upset with this war being uncannon bc it almost reminds me of Dragon Ball Z; the hero's conqueror the most powerful enemy ever (Friza, Androids, Cell, Bu. The only thing more powerful would be God(s)... And that's exactly who the new foes are.....gods). DBZ writers have to make an even stronger enemy to add on more episodes to the story.
This Vong species suddenly comes from nowhere and is more powerful than any foe before.
I'm sure there is way more depth to it and a very good read; and I could be completely wrong and I'm open to that as I have never read the books. Basing this oppinion on the video I just watched. And I still love DBZ even though Goku is on God fighting levels now. Just don't want something as great as the story of Star Wars to have any deluded story arc tacked to it just to further the story.
Yes, they should remain. As a matter of fact, I'd like to see more of them. The new Jedi order series was awesome!
Pong Krell.
yes
yes they should have stay cannon.
QOTD yea
+TheCancrizans Is that the big guy on Umbara, when he killed his own troopers?
+Haareldt Cortinia Yes.
I'm not really fond of the Yuuzhan Vong because it gives Palpatine justification for becoming a dictator and creating a super weapon seeing how he knew they were coming. It kinda makes the Rebels look like bad guys for jeopardizing the safety of the galaxy by forming a government ill equipped for the attack after destroying the one that was ready.
The Emperor didn't know they were coming. Thrawn did. Palpatine died before he could learn of them.
+Linklex7 he sensed a strong force presence from the unknown regions.
He was still power hungry though.His rise in power has nothing to do with the yuuzhan vong
Have you read "Outbound Flight"?
Palpatine was one of the reasons that Thrawn knew about them. Palpy knew them as the "Far Outsiders", though.
PFM719 - That's true it gives star wars the same plot as fable 3
I'm still trying to figure out how the Vong were so powerful. I mean were they blaster proof? Did their star destroyers out match those of the Republic and Remnant? How much range did they get with their weapons?
Wildcard (I choose a highly rated topic from the List).
+TheCancrizans I want it be cannon.
+Ādams Vizulis but.... but.... chewy.....
canon!!! We need this to be canon!!!
+mike smith I'm sorry but the Wookie has fallen bro... We. need this to be canon though,I'm sorry
mike smith They can always change things.
the war sounds cool and linked alot of things together. I quite liked it.
I think if the new trilogy had the Yuuzhan Vong as the enemy rather than more storm troopers, it could have made for a better story. Maybe we could still have the helping out the Yuuzhan Vong. And it would have been cool to have a new jedi order to fight. That was probably my least favourite thing about The Force Awakens, but don't get me wrong, I still loved the movie!
this reminds me of the Flood from halo
Datch flood aren't extra-galactic
Justin Lacek I think they are actually extra galactic. But nobody would know, since they're not native to any particular planet or space body as far as we know
Grayson M.
Well the flood were designed by the precursors as an attack on the forerunners, and the precursors are extra-galactic, so a case could be made for them being beyond the galaxy.
Datch: They sound more like the Locusts from Gears of war.
Datch The Flood would shit on The Vong
So they lived in the Star Wars galaxy for thousands of years before they made there first move
Took ya long enough
Absolutely wish this would have remained canon, so that would mean Jacen and Jaina Solo would have been canon. Episode 7 could have been like the Darth Cadeus story shortly after that and it would have been pretty interesting as a movie.
I want, I NEED this to be made a movie. This is my favourite EU saga. I just can´t stop reading it over anhd over again for at least the last 6 years.
The yuzhan vong war would do a very good movie theme for a star wars episode
This is way better than the Disney bullshit
Loved the books, and the vong. It made so much more sense why jacen solo would turn to the dark side. Having his brother die than spending years in a vong work camp with the only one helping being a sith. Way better than "I woke up and he was standing over me with a lit light saber."
Star Wars 10-11-12: The Yuuzhan Vong War
mikkelnpetersen I agree
Why are we not funding this?!?!?!?!
mikkelnpetersen Yes
How cool would that be ! :)
first off I want to say that video was excellent and thank you for it. second I was wondering a list of materials you used for your sources I would like to find as many books on the yuuzhan vong to read about. thank you
This stuff was decent. I wish the Thrawn trilogy was still canon though, those books were great.
I have been your fan for a while now I love Star Wars and you make it even cooler by talking about things outside of the films don't stop what you do if you see this please respond
+Chris Oosterveen I'm glad you enjoy my content :)
So, the population of a single world could create an army large enough to threaten an Empire consisting of the populations of thousands of worlds?
And I'm the only one that sees something wrong with this picture.
Their math skills definitely suck. Even a "poorly trained" militia is going to cost the enemy lives.
Well technically the yuuzhan vong's does not only consist of their own kind.Before entering the jedi's galaxy,they had enslaved hundreds lf different creatures in which they use as their fodder and mindless soldiers while the actual vong act as their elite soldiers.
And who are these "enslaved" people? One story says they come from a world in the dark between Galaxies. So where did they get this population of "more" than a single world? Do a better job than the other guys . . . get the story straight.
They come from a SINGLE WORLD between galaxies, or from another galaxy with thousands of worlds? Which is it? Make up your minds.
Anthony Hargis "A SINGLE World From A Single Galaxy".The races they got from their galaxy are basically the creatures that formed their ships while the others are the ones they enslaved in tje unknown regions.You have access to the internet,use it.
So you're saying that the world was NOT located in the blackness between galaxies, as was implied?
The Vong Wars should have been the new trilogy. The time in-between should have been Disney + shows. Hell Disney could have made a whole nother 6 films out of the Vong Wars.
I wish everything in legends that occured before episode 1 was still canon. I mean, it doesn't conflict with any of the new canon, so why not?
your channel us great man I can't get enough of the lore videos
The Primarch Thanks :)
No thank you sir lol! Also something I've been wondering do you think Droids are Sentient?
The Primarch Definitely. C-3PO is a great example of a droid who worries all too often. Even battle droids show some emotion. What do you think?
While I enjoyed the stories of the Yuuzhan Vong war I feel it was most likely the main thing that led to the expanded universe being dumped simply because it would be too difficult to just kick off a series of films set after it without explaining many things that happened during and afterwards because of this war. Things such as the death of Anekin Solo and the falling to the dark side of Jacen Solo being the main ones in my mind.
Personally I think it would have been great to have a film series based on this war, it could have been epic without re-doing all the Empire vs Rebels/Remenant story. It would also have been a good way to hand over to the next generation of actors as it shows the younger generation taking charge of most of the action. Unfortunately that would no longer be possible due to the age of the original cast by the time Disney got control.
The YV war is among my favorite sagas. It definitely should have been kept as cannon. Along with everything that took place between the fall of the empire and the YV war. That being said, I am somewhat curious to see what the new storyline will look like, and whether or not the YV will make a reappearance.
The Yuuzhan Vong meant business
Subbed! I have so many SW books, but of all of them, the New Jedi Order is entirely the most creative and pulse pounding!
+MooCowMoo Cow Thanks! Awesome, there are a lot of great Expanded Universe novels. I do really like the New Jedi Order ones also.
Can you guys to Dash Rendar or Kyle Katarn?
+Thebigredsnake They are both on the List, so hopefully they get a lot of votes!
+Thebigredsnake - i agree with Kyle Katarn, he has an interesting story working for the empire and as a jedi
Yeah they should have kept them. It would have been dark, but it would have been great to see them onscreen.
I definitely agree.
Why do you sound like Carson Beckett from Stargate Atlantis :P
I've never had someone make that comparison before :P
Well you do sound similar which is not a bad thing I was just expecting you to disect a Wraith afterwards.
+JKAzrael247 Haha, fair enough!
what if the yuuzhan Vong are the main enemy in episode 8 and or 9 or we get a teaser at the end of 9, where you see one of thier ships closing in? with thrawn being back into star wars cannon, and the Yuuzhan vong being his main drive to join the empire, this would be pretty cool!
This is better than Disney canon
can you do a republic forces video from all times such as old republic timeline republic from episodes 1-3 new republic from legends and new republic from episode 7
I want the yuzong vong to remain cannon
T C no
And still not a day goes by where I don't think that this story should have been episode 7,8 and 9. So much wasted potential really hurts.
iwillshelteryou ur so right with Luke’s new Jedi order and the galactic alliance kicking ass would have been epic
... I kinda hope that if we get a second trilogy after the 7,8,9, that we get the Yuzzhan Vong
DIdirectors I agree.
DIdirectors it's confirmed we're getting a new trilogy about what I dunno
I've read these books. I can't help but think this story line would make a GREAT movie trilogy.
What if Episode 10, 11, and 12 focus on a Yuuzhan Vong invasion?
It would fit in my book.
Scine Bamm can’t, it has to follow a timeline. Episode 7 already ruined it, with it taking place in 30 ABY.
Not unless the war is moved to a later date.
That would be awful, it would ruin Star Wars for me
Yes I would love to see them the Yuuzhan Vong was refreshing considering the cycle of "star wars" that happens throughout its history
Would have made such a better story line to follow than the crap Disney is spewing out now.
no bro eu it's too chaotic
wow nice video!
*Record scratch*
SPECIES OF DROID
*TRIGGERED*
When the Republic and Inperials joined forces, it reminded me when the Jedi (Luke Skywalker) and the Sith (Darth Krayt) joined forces to defeat Abeloth
I think the Yuuzhan Vong War needs to be cannon for the movies coming out!
klinton kavanagh, I would love to see that.
Paladin Boyd me too, and it looks like it's going that way because of episode 7 ... it's obviously using materials from the de-cannoned expanded universe like the paperback books and a female protagonist.
You should so one on the ssi' ruuk wars
What if snoke is one of them
That seems unlikely given that they hate users of the Force.
no time line, becuse the yuuzhan vong have destroyed the new republic, not the first order
Matheus Hausmann but the new republic is still in this new trilogy, the first order is just a remnant trying to come back
that would have been an awesome plot twist
The yuuzhan vong challenged the galaxy in a way no one else could.
A lot of the EU should have been kept Canon.
We need Live-Action Yuuzhan Vong in Star Wars Movies or TV shows I don't care. I would just like to see these guys. 👁️
i do not wish it did because chewy died
thats a very odd reasoning as that would just make it a child story by having the main characters unkillable.
Nazmi Ahmad no its just because chewie is my favourite they can kill some other main character
Still find it odd but sure man
Nazmi Ahmad can't argue it's you opinion
Rip chewie 😭
NJO was the 1st series of books that I read from the EU. What we now call Legends will always be 'my' Star Wars universe. I think of the canon universe & EU in terms of Star Treks JJ Abrams universe compared to the 24th century stuff...alternate timelines. I finished reading these in about 2006 so this was a good recap for me. I'm thinking of resuming with the Legacy and Fate of the Jedi series, so this reminded me where I was at.
Wait, So if Han's son was called Anakin Solo...Then is this a story clash with the Force Awakens?
+KMSGaming This is non-canon.
+TheCancrizans Oh i see. Great video man!
The things he is telling in the video aren't canon, which includes Anakin Solo. Canon means that is has happend (in the star wars universe ofcource) noncanon means that it didn't happen.
+Nick Post ofcourse*
Nick Post Okay thanks man!
. i really enjoy your clips.i think you do very good ones.and yes. i wish it would
be in the canon but i know it wont.
If the empire was still around this wouldn't happen lol
The Empire was around, they hid. Maybe if the had the Death Star, I could see it happening. Which is something that comes up in later stories.
Linklex7, You can kinda see why the death star was build now.
Devorizer they still existed only very much smaller, they did help the republic in the end
Fucking pig shit rebels. All those rebels deserved to die while trying to get the death star plan thank god good vader cut them into tiny little pieces..
Solid Snake lol right they all deserved to fucking die
New to the Vong storyline--love the element of the remaining Imperial forces joining the Republic to beat them
remain canon?? -- Yes.
The vong were such a cool concept. They were not of the galaxy and were no longer of the force. The fact they were in the galaxy was so cool. Palpatine knew of them, darth maul fought and killed one. There is just so much lore the fact you couldn’t feel them through the force the fact when u fought one you had to only really on ur own body and skill not the force as much was amazing.
You remind me of Dr. Carson Beckett from stargate Atlantis...
Is that a compliment? :P
yes, yes it is :)
My first thought! Sounds EXACTLY like Carson
OMG your so right dude
Cool! I didn't know anything about them at all...I read Maul Lockdown and they match the description of one of his unknown opponents .
I don't want that to be canon, sorry
wow that was
awesome! this should definitely be canon.
I WISH IT WAS CANON :(((((((((
Yes i do. In fact, when i first heard about episode 8, i was hoping it would cover this war.
the only reason the vong lost because plot protection with Luke Skywalker
And because Thrawn was dead :(
Pretty much, and the excuse was him pretty much becoming one with the force
.... ehrr ... you mean the Vong had that many victory streaks because Thrawn was dead ^^
They lost for many reasons.
They had become an enemy of the Force so twisted and evil the Force abandoned them completely. This allowed the Jedi to strike them down in the final hour.
The Madalorians played them. Fett united with them but it was a double cross he was passing information to the Galactic Alliance. During that time Fett managed to build a Mandalorian army the likes of which had not existed for thousands of years and train them to fight the Vong. The Mandalorians eventually turned on the vong and were brutally efficient so much the Vong had to launch a major offensive on Mandalore which then turned into a stalemate.
The Imperials had Gilad Pelaeon who took over the Imperial Remnant and lead them against the Vong. Thrawn gets a lot of love but Pelaeon was the one who really kept the Empire together. After the death of the Emperor he saved the Empires military power and he did so again after Thrawn died. He later used the loyalty of the Military to take control of the Imperial Remnant from the Moffs allowing him to fight as he wished. This resulted in several major victories against the Vong under his command.
Scourgelord Nathreim I really like how you promote Palleon but the reason why he was more successfull than Thrawn in keeping the Empire togheter is because as soon as Thrawn returned from the Unknown Regions, the relatively short time he had on hands he focused to muster what strenght there was available to gather ( improvising most of the time - Katana fleet, saboutaging the rebel fleet etc ) to crush the Republic and only after quickly taking out that threat, he'd channel all energy on restoring the Empire's original strenght. What is remarkable about Thrawns short apperance is that with limited resources he actualy managed to reconquer most of former Imperial territory. We never had the chance to see Thrawn in politics. Palleon had plenty of time and a great mentor. Not to downplay his role at all though. He was a great leader. But being a great leader *and* tacticaly unmatched is above that to me.
I have an idea for a video (if you haven't already done it.....you may have, and I just haven't found it yet).
You should highlight the layout of the Galaxy, how big it is, the different parts of it, some short highlights about the different parts. Just get an overall sense of direction. I think that would be cool.
I already love your videos! So whatever you put out will be awesome.