Tactical Analysis of Nashville School Shooting
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The most important thing beyond their tactics is that they ran to the threat with the proper sense of urgency and dedication to stopping the threat. Well done officers 👍👍
Unlike the cowards in Texas.
It was go time and they went
"I love this. That's because they care". This hit me in the feels. So evident in how they move and react. Thank you officers. This footage will be seen by many and will encourage others to act in similar care and bravery. Saved lives on this day and in days to come. Thank you
I appreciate how John nuances the difference between "tactical and moral considerations" and that he doesn't denigrate moral considerations simply because it may slightly take away from the tactical (*and from a utilitarian philosophy).
Officer Rex took his job seriously. From what I have been told Nashville metro doesn’t supply rifles or optics to patrol officers. This officer most likely spent his own money on quality equipment like that Razor HD.
I bet they do now.
@@TheGuardian_TM they should. Nashville collects more than enough tax money every year to outfit every officer with knights SR-15s and all the Gucci gear. I don’t go to Nashville often but there are some really rough areas and very few cops for the amount of residents and tourists. I usually fall on the skeptical side of law enforcement but you rarely hear of misconduct from Nashville metro and these cops that responded are top notch. They have restored some of my faith in modern policing.
He had an aftermarket charging handle (I assume it's a Radian) and a foregrip. Anyone know what it was? Is it one of those aluminum ones or a Tango Down?
That’s great that he is allowed to use personal rifle and is competent enough to have it set up for immediate deployment. Too bad it is probably in evidence now.
5:40 Note: Officer Rex with rifle at 45-degree angle most likely using offset Red Dot optic (visible at 9:14) to aim rather than LPVO
The blurred body of an innocent child hit so hard 😪 these guys are pure heroes...I guess they saved many more lives
John I'm so glad you addressed the fallacy of Gun Free Zones. GFZs are free kill zones for the mentally disturbed and by default are more dangerous than other areas because it's a filter that only lets in people with guns that have bad intent. The fact that we keep our children in these inherently more dangerous areas is insane.
M-M-M-Monster Kill!
The doors were LOCKED at the school, the shooter shot through the glass doors and enetered the school. Same thing happened at Sandy Hook......
Japan, Australia, Canada, Mexico, UK, France, South Korea, India, China are all Gun Free Zone countries! Between China and India alone we’re talking about over 2 Billion people and another 500 million in Europe. Why do none of those countries have Frequent mass shootings and mass school shootings like the U.S. does? It’s good to look for outside ideas on how to keep kids and citizens safe since Americans keep failing with status quo ideas. Texas of all places had 400 police officers rush to a school shooting within minutes and they failed to stop the shooter. Turning cities into Baghdad with armed patrols is illusion of safety.
As a military veteran, I would say the biggest improvement we can do to our schools is get the best camera system that can be monitored to relay faster information to responding officers. If done right, you'd be able to lock down an intruder within a minute with the push of the button. Other than that, it was textbook.
That and arming teachers and having armed guards
Exactly. So many other public facilities do this from government buildings to hospitals. Our kids should have better security than the politicians surrounded with guns claiming ours should be taken away.
Armed and Trained Staff. Gun Free Zones are a JOKE!
Props to the teachers & staff, too! They bought the time for the officers to do their thing. They also cleared those rooms saving lives! We’ll done to all!
That staff member stayed in the open and relayed info to cops and gave them keys is every bit a hero as the entry team.
They don't get enough credit, what those teachers and staff did probably saved as much lives as the police.
I’ve been in law-enforcement for years and now im a school resource officer and I’m extremely proud and grateful for these guys. Very emotional and proud at the same time! ❤️
I’ve never been either, but my question for y’all is if I’m there as a civilian and I decide to engage the shooter…how do I differentiate myself (good guy) from the shooter (bad guy) knowing that the cops are gonna arrive when I may be engaging the shooter?
Literally choked up to see such bravery and tactics from the police after Uvalde.
Don't let the media fool you, there still some good cops out!
I believe majority of cops are good, though far too many cannot shoot straight. This is part of what makes Uvalde so appalling.
I think biggest problem was that they stopped to think. Running to the threat can be automatically and requires far less courage and determination than starting backup once you’ve started thinking about risks. Solution is to train and game out scenarios to minimize decision making on the fly so everyone can fall back to training instead of focusing on their personal risk.
The media is still fooling you😅
@@finngamesknudson1457 I've been a law enforcement firearms instructor for years. I've also taught active shooter, tactical medical etc. If you watch the body cam footage from Uvalde. It was a complete mess. You had too many agencies involved and nobody took charge. The great thing about this incident was that it was one agency. The Nashville Metro Police. They regularly train on active shooter response and it obviously showed in the video. I now work as a school resource officer and I have the same issues from surrounding agencies. Everybody has a chief that wants to do cheap stuff and play politics instead of doing what's right for the public. And you are correct, and my experience most police officers are great people. However, they get more caught up in responding to daily complaints, traffic stops etc than they do training for rare critical incidents. I've come to the realization that I can only be responsible for myself and my school. I regularly have meetings with staff and do trainings on how to keep the school safe.
I think what I liked best about the body cam footage was the second they heard gunfire they stopped clearing and ran towards the direction the shots were coming from. They knew what those shots meant, and they immediately made the call and booked it. Well done.
Fortunately, at that point, the killer was no longer hunting but engaged with LEO’s through that window. Even with that knowledge as I watch the video, it is chilling.
John! You absolutely nailed that intro.
Morals will always be more important than tactics in scenarios like this that involves children.
Heroes walk among us. The moral aspect of haste shows the intent to save lives and that’s excellent to me. They knew their job and they were going to do it, God bless them.
Those officers are true HEROES, giving the situation they were calm, professional and got things done as soon as they could.
I'm also impressed by the teacher giving him good info, but yes Officer rex was very calm considering what he was headed into - clearly well trained and I would bet on combat experience. Appreciate the insight you provide in your AAR.
From what I heard, he does have combat experience, infantry
Even said “yes maam” as he was walking into the building in the zone!
@@egomaniac247 exactly, did not seem rattled at all!
The fact that he was actively manipulating his safety as he entered and cleared tells me that he wasn’t just going through the motions.
He was ready to lay hate.
He was *wanting* to find the threat instead of simply looking and he was ready to deliver that absolute *work* at the earliest possible convenience.
Solid work, Rex.
They were hunting
Absolutely great comment….he was actually SEEKING, not just seeing if his oath crossed the shooter.
Update: Tennessee just passed a Statewide School Resource Officer (SRO) Program Grant that provides funding to local law enforcement entities to place one full-time, POST-certified SRO in each K-12 public school and public charter school in Tennessee.
“These are good cops.” You got it, John. Thank you for this AAR!
If anyone is wondering why Officer Rex seems to have his AR canted, even when he pulls up to aim, it's because he also has a canted red dot I believe he is using as his primary optic.
I want to say it was an ACRO
Courage on display. Kudos to the brave officers performing a difficult job. Thank you John for your analysis and commenting on a difficult event with grace.
Absolutely spot on analysis. These guys did exceptionally well, considering they are not a “team” like a swat team (who train together everyday). Their moral courage and quick action was decisive. They absolutely deserve a medal and a beer!
One of the main things I took away from this is that I'm way too fat and out of shape to do what would need to be done in a situation like this. As a civilian it's less likely that I'll ever need to, but I still want to be ready. I've got a wife and 2 kids that I'll fight to the death for, and I have to get it together to make sure that I can stay in the fight until it's done. Thank God for men like these cops.
20 minutes of getting your heart rate above 120 at least 3 days a week will go a long way. Whatever it takes. I've been there And it wasn't fun fighting my way back to getting in shape but it is worth it. I use the term in shape loosely here because I still have a bit of a dad bod. That said, I can run through my 3 miles at a respectable pace without stopping now
@@jon27d Thanks for the positive advice, and congrats on your achievements! I really appreciate someone actually saying something encouraging on the internet!
I'm disabled. I am cognizant of the probability that my only contribution might be drawing fire from other potential victims for a moment. Maybe that will be enough for someone.
@@TUKByV I hope that you are never put in that situation, but if you are and you do save the life of even one person by being there, rest easy knowing you are more of a hero than those that have the ability to do more and choose not to.
The good thing about being out of shape and fat is you get a say in fixing it. Being a paraplegic is one thing, but having the full mobility to solve that problem is a huge leg up. I say this as someone currently getting myself back in shape after years of self neglect and laziness. Your family will thank you later for taking your physical health seriously.
The vernacular you use, as you reference being “silent guardians” is not only refreshing… it is a necessity in this day and age. I respect the term warrior poet a little more every time i watch a video of yours. Just a long winded thank you from a man that as you would put it…. Actually met the King… keep up the good work he made you for. God Bless
These dudes make me proud to be an American!
That calm and cool "yes ma'am" was cooler than anything said in a movie as a cool one liner.
John, thank you for sharing their photos. I've seen a hundred clips of the shooter. This is the first time I've seen the victims. I'm dying inside. The little one is going to haunt me forever.
Excellent point on stress & fitness. As a firefighter just before arrival on a structure Fire my heart is pounding and my mouth is dry. Step off the truck it’s time to go to work that issue is blocked off by my mind & disappears until it’s time to rehab.
I really liked the angle you guys chose to take on this video and situation. Good job men of God! ❤
Imagine if it was a Satanic School. It wouldn't matter.
It's an AAR ... no politics, no emotions, no bullshit ... it's not an angle.
Small detail that I’m sure you didn’t see from how fast the video was up, but they had the shooter down in 14 minutes. Really good work from these guys.
It was so great to hear how some of the police officers encouraged movement towards danger to save lives. Sometimes we just need a nudge to do the right thing. I heard "Let's go!" and "keep pushing!"
Great breakdown John. I'm a retired LEO with quite a bit of active shooter training so, they did an awesome job, especially given the circumstances.
Thanks AAR.
Your responsibility to be ready for the fight, never ends. James Yeager
One thing that caught my attention. These guys are not from the same agency. They are not aquatinted with each other, and experienced collaborators. They address each other by the type of weapon or even weapon sight to co-ordinate their movements ( “Push LPVO”). Totes badasses. It’s great when a team can train, often relentlessly, together, but when you have a totally ad-hoc team, not to mention that infernal fire alarm, they moved very quickly, effectively and purposefully. Well done.
Right? They called the guy on the blue t-shirt, "Blue".
Thank you sir. Team member from the mountains, having to process this in the years to come will be harder than the action they took that day. Please continue to support them by holding the department accountable for their care after this horrible day. They will need it. It has taken me 13 years to rebound and shift gears. The road is long but worth it.
So refreshing to see police doing the right thing in the right way, what we know happens every day out of the limelight.
Would love you to have an interview with those brave officers.
“Playing zone” in reference to 2A. I love that.
thanks for your analysis, john. i hadn't considered the cardio aspect but yes, repeated adrenaline pump and dumps aren't just physically exhausting but place the mind under extreme stress too - can make good people make bad decisions they can't explain later but these cops keep fit, kept cool and shouted "police!" before firing.
I have been pounding my head against the wall all week trying to figure out why any parent would be opposed to armed guards protecting schools. It just doesn’t make sense.
A few years ago our private Christian school in Nashville did a fundraiser for security. 2 RSO's (35 yrs on metro) new electronic locks on all access doors. There were 30 different locks and keys for the doors. More security cameras and the most important thing was a bullet proof film that covers all exterior windows and doors. Floor locks for ALL class doors and black out shades for all windows. It was after a school shooting and best investment by the school. So happy
Appreciate the perspective as always. God speed.
I agree 100%. As a teacher, we are sitting targets for anyone who decides to come into our building. We do have a SRO but there is no guarantee that he will be at the school on the day an incident may occur. I appreciate the swift response these officers gave and the neutralizing of the threat.
As a relatively new resident of the Nashville area, I'm extremely proud of how these officers handled this situation. The Chief also seems fantastic.
I rate the officers 10/10. It's just sad that they have a response time and no teacher was carrying.
Turning the shooters pronouns to was/were in a second. Good job.
She/her who thought herself he/him, is now was/were. Just as anybody who could shot 9 year old kids should be. Hope 'it' is burning/burned now.
Wow that gave me goosebumps(a little chocked up)"morals trump your tactics". I've never heard that before, I learned something valuable, thank you!
Well done Nashville LEO! And great analysis from John at WPS. As a former Risk Manager of a charter school district that fortunately has yet to have an incident of this magnitude, but fails to have a realistic ideology of best practices to harden the schools, I could not agree more about the need for armed deterrents on campus. I was trained as a Guardian and needed only a letter from the district to legally carry concealed on campus. They declined stating they wanted to harden the campus in other ways. Nothing significantly changed after 2-3 years after the request.
I resigned after they repeatedly failed to support the needs within the district and changes in Texas law that directly impacted all public schools, including public charter schools in Texas. I couldn't stay and have this happen on my watch, having no real support from the district leadership for the safety of our students and staff.
Thank you for walking us through this and god bless these officers for their service. Prayers for the families and victims involved acknowledging that this could have been so much worse.
Thank you👍!! I had NO idea what should happen when trying to save people in a building.
Minor quibble. It wasn't shown in this edit, but the cop w/ long gun didn't load a rnd into the chamber until after he was slung up and walked around a bit. I would like to have seen him do that before slinging up as a threat could have presented itself much sooner. In fact, later the murderer was firing down from the 2nd floor on newly arriving LEOs outside the school.
Overall great job by them!
Well done…….if I were involved in that operation and watched your critique, I would not take one bit of exception…….I’d watch it a least a dozen times………at some time I would rerun the rerun the entire operation after school hours and break it down step by step……outstanding job by the cops…….equally outstanding critique…..
We called it Monday morning quarterbacking.
Good critique.
God bless
John noticing the officer with the shotgun's incorrectly raised elbow clearly shows an amazing attention to detail. With all the issues in our society, it's comforting to know we have guys like John holding the line! Respect!!
My heart was pumping just watching it.
A good plan executed well today is better than the perfect executed flawlessly tomorrow. Time is of the essence here. Solid props for the courage of this group of police!
John... you handled that review VERY good and with tactical class!
The blurred image of the child is something I can’t even begin to imagine having to see.
You definitely should be proud of all your hard work and dedication. Great job
Police response time 3 minutes…not bad…a responsibly armed educator could have been less than 30 seconds
Judging by the teachers I had in high school the very last thing you would want is them ARMED. My math teacher was easily 107 years old. Lol.
Response time was 15 minutes. It was three minutes after they arrived that the perp was down.
I'm glad all of you guys are doing your own breakdown of this
“I don’t see the necessity for it so it should be prohibited?” Wow. That’s such a vacuous thing to so flippantly say. No self-awareness at all!
Clearing a building that size with the fire alarm and lights makes it such a challenge. Not to mention the amount of stress knowing at any corner you’re likely to encounter a threat or friendly and have to make a split second decision on shooting. Great job to those that put it on the line.
Can we also notice how he dropped his muzzle to not flag other officers, and then immediately engaged his safety after firing
A beard. Good job.
John, your emotions were palpable and understandable.
Well done officers.
Simple upgrades and security would solve this issue.
Great job by these officers. God Bless!
I saw a tweet about the "chose not to attack a different target due to too much security," and I immediately went searching for the original source to see if this claim was true. It is. Those words came from the police chief's mouth during a press briefing. I still want to know exactly what she said/wrote, and how they determined that she had passed on that other target and why, but assuming it's as they say, this is a VERY significant piece of information in the gun debate. If a security/armed personnel presence deterred this shooter, that proves (at least to me) that armed deterrence works. Everything you said at the end makes sense (even though I knew it already did).
i havent watched the whole vid so idk if you talk about it, but i dont see enough credit to the woman outside giving clear accurate info to the police
She was amazing to be honest! Clear direction, calm (as it seemed), and was extremely direct.
she did brilliant. she was a clear target for the shooter too but coolly stayed at the door to meet the arriving police officers and ensure there was no delay while lives were at stake. you're right, perhaps if enough of us keep mentioning it, the judge will grant her a civic award for her bravery. 😇
Thanks for the great analysis. Amazing officers and heroes, who knows how many lives they saved. !
Great and important analysis, Mr. Lovell. Everiday leanring. Thank you!
Man that alarm seems to add to the stress with no purpose.
In not a LEO but when I was in private security/personal protection (for 20 years) I was always trained it there is an active threat or a potential for a continued threat handle the threat before administering aid to any injured.
The greatest deterrent to these events is having visible security measures like armed resource officers/security personnel… the next best thing is good guys/girls (teacher’s administrators)armed and ready to employ those methods of protecting themselves and others.
I live about 40 miles from Nashville and my kids go to a private Christian school. This shooting is very personal to me. I personally am very proud of how the law enforcement responded and efficiently handled the situation. Also, big props to the school being so prepared. That teacher that met the police and gave report was a rockstar.
John, I have huge respect for you and your skill set and experience. This was an outstanding objective evaluation of this incident. Thank you for your humble nature and method of presentation. You are very respectful of others and it is absolutely refreshing. I agree with every single word you said. I have a family friend that has been with Nashville PD for 30+ years. I intend to share this video to him.
Thank you for your knowledge that you share with others. God bless you. I also really appreciate how you openly convey how much you love your wife. I just find that to be awesome. Keep it up sir!
The cardio comment was eye opening!
Considering that we got to train as a team or squad and build continuity between us and they cannot always know who is gonna be on their left or right!
Hats off to Nashville Metro. Great job. My family is praying for the officers, the church and especially the victims and their families. God bless y'all.
Your final points remind me a lot of James Yeager's "Allowed vs able" comment back in the day. Good stuff, agree 1000%
Good AAR. Also of note... that the school staff were ready for the responding officers with a quick update ("frag order" if you will), and door keys. They must have practiced for active shooter incidents.
I don’t think they were a team. These were the first guys on scene. Not bad for ad hoc.
The “moves like a lion” guy with the shotgun doesn’t get the notice from most that you give him. You are spot on. This man was mission focused with great big ❤️ and
⚽️ 🏀 !
I was waiting for this video so much
Thank you for your review. As a father of three, Marine Veteran and cop of 31 years I'm proud of them. They did an outstanding job.
Absolutely awesome Video!! First off you called it how it is. A "female"! Great job by the responding officers!! 👍🏻👍🏻 As a Retired Deputy this was how the Active Shooter Training was taught! Again great job to the officers running to the gunfire! This was not SWAT. This was everyday patrol officers going in and stopping the threat!! They saved countless lives!! 👍🏻👍🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Excellent summary John!
It breaks my heart...I not the emotional type, but the innocent who lost all and the cops who had to put everything on the line to help because of one mentality ill person..great break down
Great call outs, on-scene leadership; I especially like 12ga Officer plating the door frame of the space being worked. Well fucking done.
Excellent break down John
I like how Officer Collazo mag dumped into that girl because she was twitching from taking a 5.56 to the dome. He said “stop moving”. Excellent work Collazo, I would have done the same to that evil monster.
GREAT AAR !!! Props to these young Cops.
I'm glad you mentioned the tactical sacrifice here. Many have said they rushed the shooter. And that's okay. As an ex-Mil and ex-LEO, we've watched plenty of videos of shootouts between highly trained people vs low trained people. For a trained person, it becomes a high risk, high reward scenario when you can blitz an untrained / low skill person and neutralize them during a malfunction, bad cover situation, or a reload.
They were at a disadvantage when they entered. We train to not clear rooms but to go hard towards the screaming and shooting, but when they entered it was quiet. 👍👍
Absolutely a fine job , taking out the threat 💪💪
There were seven people killed in a shooting in Germany earlier this month, a country with extremely strict gun laws.
It should also be noted that the total death toll due to the tornado from a week ago was 26.
As always, totally agree with you John! Prayers for the families of those killed in this horrific tragedy!
Thanks John, this is what we train for. Thanks to the officers for training and being bold in their movements. Never stop training, agreed on your comments. Spot on. Christ be with you Brother.
Politicians will never make a School of Hard Target, it would take their narrative away
The killer had no fear walking through the halls. And that's the problem. When are these school administrators going to protect the kids they claim to love?
I really appreciate the analysis. Oddly, I have seen several body cam vids already, but yours brought proud tears to my eyes. Thank you.
I think the initial hesitation upon entry was whether or not they were clearing rooms or if there was solid info on where they needed to go. You hear the one officer say "we don't know where he is" which signaled officers to start clearing until they received the stimulus from upstairs. I'm just wondering if the second team had been able to access the second floor right away, this may have ended sooner; or the shooter might have been in a different position to engage them rather than shooting out the window at units on the street. As an active threat response instructor, this is by far the most text-book real-world response I've seen; most responses are much more chaotic with officers seemingly forgetting their tactics training once their stress level goes up. Consistency and repetition in training go a long way to making sure various officers can come together and work as a cohesive and efficient team like this. It also helps when some officers step up and take some control to keep the team on track, like we saw in Nashville.
22 years as an LEO and been through active shooter training. It’s hard to be a 100% tactically sound team when you only get to do this in training. We have responded to calls for a potential active shooter at schools and more often than not, you are making entry with different people on a consistent basis.
Oddly enough. I live behind enemy lines in upstate NY. Both my kids go an elementary school with full time county Sheriff presence inside the school. Yet, I’m subject to the unsafe act.
Well done John! 👍🏻🇺🇸
TECC, ( civilian version of TCCC ), has 3 primary objectives.
1 Stop the killing
2 Stop the dying
3 Evacuate the injured
So the idea of morals trumping tactics is very understandable. I will push that on our Active Shooter Team.
It's so much easier to defend a nation if everyone is a soldier, rather than a target.