The DRAMA between Nintendo and Kanye West

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  • World famous rapper Kanye West has nothing to do with Nintendo, creator of Mario and Zelda, right? Well, for a long time that was true. But just a few years ago, Nintendo crossed paths with Kanye, and things didn't end up going as planned!
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  • @ThomasGameDocs
    @ThomasGameDocs  2 ปีที่แล้ว +227

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  • @CwapPlatinum
    @CwapPlatinum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1202

    There goes Kanye's hopes on being in Smash Bros.

    • @juststatedtheobvious9633
      @juststatedtheobvious9633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      His mom's still got a chance.
      But seriously, that game trailer looked beautiful. A ahame he wants it to be an endless runner. Shouldn't he want her to get to heaven?
      I mean, he could have had an inspirational message about never giving up in there, and now I'm just wondering whether he wanted to include microtransactions?

    • @chrisprattofficial
      @chrisprattofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      your profile picture...

    • @Tyro74
      @Tyro74 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@juststatedtheobvious9633 funnily enough Kanye has some tweets from 2015 talking out against in app purchases when his daughter kept getting pop ups every 5 minutes on a game to buy something new lol.

    • @okinawa484
      @okinawa484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@juststatedtheobvious9633 exactly! If you know th game sky children of the light (great game), it reminded me of that and having a journey for his mother would be so cool! But I'm not Kanye and he may have been trying to have a hidden message by making it an endless runner

    • @CwapPlatinum
      @CwapPlatinum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chrisprattofficial It stands for CwapPlatinum.

  • @KOOPAS1234
    @KOOPAS1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1911

    This sounds like a fanfiction and the fact that it's real makes me question about reality. 💀

    • @Gengar2401
      @Gengar2401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      right

    • @danielnidhiry5796
      @danielnidhiry5796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Reality is stranger than fiction

    • @evaundertale2247
      @evaundertale2247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Oh sheet- were in a fanfic

    • @M64bros
      @M64bros 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True

    • @dcta51
      @dcta51 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thats Kanye

  • @UrSammich
    @UrSammich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +652

    I mean...I see Kayne's passion, but a game based around his mom going to heaven doesn't sound like a game people will want to play, specially as an endless runner. That doesn't mean the idea isn't that bad. A game where you have to help someone reach heaven, maybe dealing with the fact there dead and is stuck in a purgatory like state having the desires of hell calling to them could make for an interesting game. I know its not what Kayne would want, but a game like that would appeal to more people then an endless runner.
    Although thinking about it now, another good topic to talk about would be Soulja Boys run in with nintendo and his "game consoles" he was selling. Yeah...that's a topic.

    • @JapaneseMagician
      @JapaneseMagician 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Dante's Inferno does include that kind of idea. You can choose to either punish or absolve (historical) persons for their sins/doings (like Pontius Pilate or Attila). And Dantes journey has a lot to do with that as well....also being guided through hell...to try and save someone special to him.

    • @EasyCure0
      @EasyCure0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      isn't spirit fairer about leading people to the after life? so it can be done, but an endless runner wouldn't be able to tell that kind of narrative.

    • @ShadowSorel
      @ShadowSorel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i thought you were shitposting holy fuck

    • @TheFlashyLucario
      @TheFlashyLucario 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This actually kinda reminds me of Hades lmao

    • @bobbykeating3123
      @bobbykeating3123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sadly if Kanye was connected to a video game it would sell. No one wants to buy shitty expensive shoes yet we have Yeezys.

  • @DABUNGINATOR
    @DABUNGINATOR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2204

    To be honest, that's a super outlandish idea for a game: an endless runner where you guide someone's real-life mom to Heaven. What types of obstacles would you face? How would you lose? When you lose, does the mom just fall back down to earth or something? Endless runners are usually just fun & wacky arcade-style games, but such a personal game doesn't fit that style. It's pretty inappropriate really.

    • @DogDogGodFog
      @DogDogGodFog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +219

      Yeah, and especially on mobile where serious artistic games are pretty much unheard of.

    • @Manoffire97
      @Manoffire97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +134

      That's what I was thinking. This is so weird. I'm a big fan of Kanye and Nintendo but I'm not interested in seeing this game come to life 😂

    • @belitithd284
      @belitithd284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Mystical eyes of kanye perception

    • @christianheadley556
      @christianheadley556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      If the genre was different per-se it would probably be a decent one of game for Nintendo.

    • @BassiKun99
      @BassiKun99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I mean, South Park: The Fractured But Whole did this...

  • @swaggerdagger8976
    @swaggerdagger8976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +984

    “Ayyo Reggie imma let you finish, but Sega made the greatest game of all time. Of all time!”
    Is that what happened?

    • @admiralAlfonso9001
      @admiralAlfonso9001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He gave it a heart so yeah

    • @wolfenden9805
      @wolfenden9805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@admiralAlfonso9001 damn even after so many years have passed and after defeating its competitor. Nintendo despises sega ? Ouch

    • @sethmichel6138
      @sethmichel6138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      "First the console wars of the 90s, then Sonic beat Mario at the Olympics, and then Sonic defeated Mario in his (Sonic's) smash reveal and now this" someone at Nintendo, probably

    • @Lou-yf1jo
      @Lou-yf1jo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      sega? a good game? In the Modern?!

    • @jacobsims8307
      @jacobsims8307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣🤣

  • @Ari-pi2qn
    @Ari-pi2qn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +430

    I don’t think Nintendo would co-develop a game about irl deceased woman going to heaven, it isn’t just heavy and sad but also might upset some religious groups

    • @TheStarBot
      @TheStarBot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I'm pretty sure Nintendo made some game about religion and handling of death

    • @Ari-pi2qn
      @Ari-pi2qn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@TheStarBot Sure but Kanye’s mom is a real person and not a fictional character

    • @rayplaysgamesrpg7233
      @rayplaysgamesrpg7233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@TheStarBot I had to check and see. There were religious video games on Nintendo systems, but none of which were made by the Nintendo EPD (the teams that develop Nintendo's AAA video games)

    • @gameyfirebro9645
      @gameyfirebro9645 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      H

    • @gameyfirebro9645
      @gameyfirebro9645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheStarBot Devil World?

  • @Chef_Alpo
    @Chef_Alpo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +311

    An endless runner where the goal is to get to heaven?
    Sounds like a cruel joke given the game's premise and the very _endless_ nature of endless runners.

    • @MiguelDLewis
      @MiguelDLewis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Generally, the goal in consulting with a game designer is to determine how to refine a game concept and make it better.

    • @chikato7106
      @chikato7106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@MiguelDLewis Generally, leave the game design to game designers. He had a half baked idea just trying to deal with his mum dying and his ego's so big he thought Nintendo would just say yes.

    • @slouch186
      @slouch186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that's what makes it brilliant.

  • @DollarTaco
    @DollarTaco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    if you ever regret awkward interactions in your past, at least you can see this and be thankful you didnt have to be in Reggie Fils Aime's shoes having to turn down Kanye West to his face about making his passion project game about piloting his mother's soul to heaven

    • @BBWahoo
      @BBWahoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine they change the idea and have his mother get dragged to hell instead

    • @frds_skce
      @frds_skce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @TrulyGrassy This sounds distasteful but...
      In that game concept, she'll never reach heaven

  • @Meofalulu
    @Meofalulu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    At 1:23 I thought you were going to say something like "Then, Shigeru Miyamoto fainted" because of how you made his picture fall backward

  • @aBathingSloth
    @aBathingSloth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    I honestly don’t think that was towards nintendo. Cuz he tried reaching out to konami but they didn’t even let him talk to kojima and everyone who Virgil had conecta with also declined him. So it was most likely him frustrated with everyone saying no. Understandable tho the objective of the game is way too personal.

    • @taddersauce3672
      @taddersauce3672 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wasn't Kojima fired at that point

    • @aBathingSloth
      @aBathingSloth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@taddersauce3672 no he was fired a month later.

    • @taddersauce3672
      @taddersauce3672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aBathingSloth Yeah that makes sense Konami would do something like that. I loved the mgs games. Konami is just another greedy corporation at this point.

    • @sivartb7273
      @sivartb7273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@taddersauce3672 imagine Kanye and kojima making a game. They would probably create one copy and display it in a museum.

    • @taddersauce3672
      @taddersauce3672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      5 hour long cutscene of Kanye having a mental breakdown, captured by Kojima’s lens flair and moving camera. Instant classic.

  • @ihavetubes
    @ihavetubes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    Kanye: Work on my game?
    Reggie: Sorry we cant
    Kanye: I was more of a sega fan anyways.

    • @mrofftopic2802
      @mrofftopic2802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      TurboGrafx-16 fan, actually.
      He once named an album "TurboGrafx-16" and then scrapped the whole project before release.

    • @cupofjoe6489
      @cupofjoe6489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mrofftopic2802 "Can't Look In My Eyes" is such a great song, even tho Ye mumbles half his verse. I know Cudi eventually finished the song but I wish he kept Ye on it 😕

    • @DubsBrown
      @DubsBrown 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honestly Kanye could release a game for the Dreamcast and people would finish it for him.

    • @kang6914
      @kang6914 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Does anyone else think this game looks amazing ? Like seriously the visuals are incredible and this was made probably 10 years ago.

    • @supamalleo64
      @supamalleo64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cupofjoe6489 it wasnt on turbo graphx 16. It was actually on cruel winter.

  • @Little-Dude
    @Little-Dude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    This definitely sounds more like an indie game, and changing it from an endless runner into something else would have been a good idea. The problem is that it isn't the type of game Nintendo would do, and I don't think Kanye would allow an indie dev to make - most likely needed - changes. He'd want it to be his way or nothing else. The trailer looked rather beautiful, though the concept of playing something so blatantly. personal to Kanye feels a bit... strange.

  • @dylan8435
    @dylan8435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    well kanye could in theory work with nintendo BUT making a song or soundtrack for a video game. I imagine that he wanted to work as a developer at Nintendo for the Only One game, but let's be honest, a game like this published by Nintendo at that time would be bombarded by criticism, especially religious

    • @kevinkite3418
      @kevinkite3418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I agree. Maybe if he had asked Nintendo for another type of collaboration, like a music-based game of some sorts.

    • @waltermalone8470
      @waltermalone8470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Itoi was someone without any experience directing games and he came up with the Mother series. Kanye’s also proved himself to be able to expand into different fields such as fashion

    • @mistent7435
      @mistent7435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      goddamn, now I really wanted a Kanye produced Nintendo soundtrack

    • @slenderblakchannelDarkNess
      @slenderblakchannelDarkNess 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinkite3418 yea like one withh the teddy bear of graduation

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@slenderblakchannelDarkNess that's actually a great idea, there we done good visuals from that error too, and it melds well worth a lot of what Nintendo does already

  • @2-5-1master5
    @2-5-1master5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    When that new Thomas game docs vid comes out, you know it’s gonna be a good day.

    • @Sansibit
      @Sansibit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Very true.

    • @EmC5133
      @EmC5133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So every Sunday

    • @2-5-1master5
      @2-5-1master5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EmC5133 sundays are the best days of the week because of him, so yes.

    • @jsmith3946
      @jsmith3946 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@2-5-1master5 so you like shitty click bait videos I take it

  • @wakkaseta8351
    @wakkaseta8351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Reggie's a brave man, accepting an invitation into a rapper's office and then declining his business deal offer once there.

    • @ScDarkness913
      @ScDarkness913 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Lmao not a very scary thing to do. Its just business

    • @ber-js5we
      @ber-js5we 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ScDarkness913 not to mention, it's just Kanye. I'm sure if something went south, Nintendo's "connections" are a little more scarier than Kanye's

    • @ManUMinute
      @ManUMinute 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kanye is very much not the strong arming type. You can see even in his documentary he is persistent and passionate but ever threatens anyone. Suge knight however…

    • @lunchtreyy
      @lunchtreyy ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it's hilarious he said "you don't want to work with us because we're tough". Kanye literally screamed at chance when donda was being produced lmao being tough and going for greatness is literally what he stands for.

  • @f4rr3r
    @f4rr3r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I knew about Only One but I had no idea Ye tried to work with Nintendo on it. Only One could have been a genuinely interesting game, but it seems like Kanye never had a large enough team of developers behind it and he was naive to think it was something that would mesh with Nintendo’s brand. A deeply unconventional, personal game directed by a famous and eccentric rapper just wouldn’t suit their content slate. Imagine if Nintendo’s 2017 release lineup was Breath of the Wild, Mario Odyssey, Arms and… Only One. It would have been entirely out of place. I don’t think Kanye even needed to work with any publisher to make it happen, he could easily have funded a stylised endless runner by himself.

    • @Hhuiza0
      @Hhuiza0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I think he should have reached out to matt nava from journey/abzu fame, i think a thatgamecompany / Giant squid studios type game could have been a beautiful approach, i understand that it was supposed to be an endless runner but i can see the concept and theme working with them

    • @AsexTwin
      @AsexTwin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      he probably could’ve gotten it finished with a happily-working team of people if he truly had faith in the idea and wanted it done. explains why he has like 50 unreleased albums

    • @lunchtreyy
      @lunchtreyy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AsexTwin He has a shit ton of unreleased albums because he's a perfectionist and because his albums are a reflection of his thoughts at the time. Like Donda was originally a really holy and more happy LP (you can find a lot of leaked versions of tracks on this scrapped version "God's Country"), while Donda is much darker in tone, almost like Ye is begging to be released from a sadness

  • @SuperWiiBros08
    @SuperWiiBros08 2 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    I can't help it but think Kanye went far beyond Chris Chan when wanting to have their own game done by Nintendo by even getting close and personal

    • @michaelvandevusse3728
      @michaelvandevusse3728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It worked for itoi and gave us earthbound at least

    • @yuripetrovic7606
      @yuripetrovic7606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It helps to be famous and have lots of money.

    • @BBWahoo
      @BBWahoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yuripetrovic7606
      Yeah but you need to have a GOOD ide

    • @yuripetrovic7606
      @yuripetrovic7606 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BBWahoo
      A lot of people grieve their parents.
      A game that's basically metaphorically all about coming to terms with the death of a loved one is a pretty decent idea. The only downside to it is that it's not a unique or original one.
      And the endless runner iPhone idea is just terrible and needs to be reworked and expanded.
      The graphics for what was made is impressive and tops a lot of indies currently available, so we know he has the resources to make something

    • @BBWahoo
      @BBWahoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yuripetrovic7606
      "and the endless iPhone runner idea is just terrible"
      That's what I'm saying though, it's a really REALLY low bar for Nintendo, it would've never been accepted, no matter how much it would mean to fish sticks lover.

  • @inny74
    @inny74 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In retrospect, Nintendo dodged one of the biggest bullets ever fired at an entity, metaphorically speaking.

  • @laserbeamlightning
    @laserbeamlightning 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    There’s also the odd implication that in endless runners, the player never reaches the goal meaning Donda never reaches heaven.

    • @izzieb
      @izzieb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What if that was the idea?

    • @BBWahoo
      @BBWahoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine seeing satan grab her if you lose

  • @juanletsplay1550
    @juanletsplay1550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Rest in peace to Donda West, it's very clear that her son loves her very very much.

    • @alexvids9232
      @alexvids9232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So much she was sacrificed for his career.

    • @Hero_of_Legend
      @Hero_of_Legend 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or just wants to exploit her death for profit. Could go either way with that hack...

    • @constantine4713
      @constantine4713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@alexvids9232 wtf are you taking about

    • @constantine4713
      @constantine4713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Hero_of_Legend 🤓

    • @user-td8ek3nk3j
      @user-td8ek3nk3j 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Hero_of_Legend I could break your whole argument with just a few sentences lol.

  • @VeryTastySoup87
    @VeryTastySoup87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Feels weird hearing Thomas swear, he seems like a wholesome guy, not the type you'd hear swears from

    • @potato3.732
      @potato3.732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed

    • @dipflipdf
      @dipflipdf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      i know i was actually not expecting him to say that

    • @strangedudee
      @strangedudee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He has sworn before but for some reason it always catches me off guard. I always remember him as censoring it as frick or darn

  • @joeyadventures1477
    @joeyadventures1477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Man does Kanye have drama with everyone

    • @ShaOryDow
      @ShaOryDow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well said.

    • @wareforcoin5780
      @wareforcoin5780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      He's probably got drama with all of us, personally. We just don't know it yet.

    • @tumultuousv
      @tumultuousv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Misinformed

    • @gasgasgasgasgas
      @gasgasgasgasgas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A list of people he's beefed with;
      Taylor Swift
      Nike
      Wiz Khalifa
      His cousin
      Jay-Z
      Kid Cudi
      Billie Eilish
      Peppa Pig
      Pete Davidson
      Drake
      Justin Timberlake
      Jimmy Kimmel
      South Park
      Deadmau5
      Beyonce
      Bruno Mars
      J. Cole
      Travis Scott
      Harriet Tubman
      Louis Vuitton
      CEO of Zappos
      Evel Knievel
      Dennis Haysbert
      Amber Rose
      MTV
      Beck
      George Bush Jr.
      ADL
      TMZ
      American Music Awards
      50 Cent
      Kris Jenner
      and even more from his own words;
      Apple
      Spotify
      Vivendi
      Universal
      Lucien Grainge
      TikTok
      Black History Month
      Obama
      The whole cast of SNL
      Hillary Clinton
      Corey Gamble
      Jeff Bezos
      Charlamagne the God
      Disney
      Liberals
      Skete (Pete Davidson)
      "All corny sh*t in general"

    • @saichetanreddy2012
      @saichetanreddy2012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gasgasgasgasgas kanye > every person you named

  • @wiseman8728
    @wiseman8728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Endless runner? Guide? So when would the guiding end? Haha. He doesn't even realize how the to concepts clash.

  • @s1y22
    @s1y22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Yeah, I definitely wouldn't think of drama of Nintendo and Kanye.

    • @sbilldmilk
      @sbilldmilk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      To be fair, I can imagine there being drama between *anything* and Kanye.

    • @s1y22
      @s1y22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sbilldmilk I mean yeah, I get you its *KANYE* we're talking here.

    • @lopesinho
      @lopesinho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sbilldmilk
      Kanye get's angry with Kanye and goes to Kanye's house to spend some time with Kanye because of Kanye's actions

    • @princeapoopoo5787
      @princeapoopoo5787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lopesinho i'm now imagining the spider man point meme but it's two kanyes

  • @XiaoPichu
    @XiaoPichu ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nintendo dodged a bullet lol

  • @salvatronprime9882
    @salvatronprime9882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    This seems like the kind of thing Sony would do. Why didn't he ask Sony?
    I find it hard to believe that nobody would consider the proposal. Unless 1) he had completely unrealistic expectations or 2) he had a terrible attitude.

    • @hugoclarke3284
      @hugoclarke3284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Both

    • @Cerbleur07
      @Cerbleur07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      People say he tends to make tantrums when he can't get what he wants. Maybe that's why it didn't work.

    • @poodychulak
      @poodychulak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1&2 are Kanye's entire brand

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Knowing kanye, he probably wanted to work with Nintendo specifically. He values these brands that know how to build an "ecosystem," and know how to create exclusivity. He loves Apple for example

    • @zain5480
      @zain5480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bri1085 he’s beefing Apple now I think

  • @redomega
    @redomega 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The battle of who can dmca more songs on youtube

  • @celestia.5758
    @celestia.5758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    This feels like weird fanfiction.

  • @drummerwave
    @drummerwave 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Technically this game was made, in South Park the Fractured but Whole

  • @FlowerHaze
    @FlowerHaze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Honestly, this whole drama really reminds me of the history of Sonic 3's relationship with Michael Jackson, but just a bit different.
    In MJ's case, he was accepted as the new music producer for the game. However, he was eventually kicked off due to the allegations surrounding him at the time, unlike Kanye, who was simply turned down from the get-go.
    Of course, that story behind Sonic 3 is why there isn't a Sonic 3 port for the Switch. Because of copyright from MJ's team, Sega can't use the original soundtrack.
    Anyways, just thought I'd share that little thought.

    • @DABUNGINATOR
      @DABUNGINATOR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      For real? I heard MJ just didn't like the way the Genesis made his music sound, so he quit working with Sega.

    • @Joskilani
      @Joskilani 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Kinda wrong actually, it's been stated that he left the project on his own terms because he was unhappy with how his music turned out on the Genesis, but he still allowed the use of what he made, just wanted to go uncredited. The allegations didn't begin until after he left the project, according to some Sonic 3 devs. It wasn't until the allegations where they started to try and sweep the stuff he made under the rug.

    • @FlowerHaze
      @FlowerHaze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      alright, I actually didn't know that MJ left before the accusations came out. That's really interesting.
      Thanks for correcting me guys. :)

    • @jsmith3946
      @jsmith3946 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what drama there ain't any he even said so in the fucking video nether one said anything bad about each other this video is pure bull shit and the title is a fucking lie

  • @eljaminlatour6633
    @eljaminlatour6633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    That's interesting, but hey the South Park studios and Ubisoft brought it to life in one of their game projects known as "South Park: the Fractured But Whole".

    • @happypasta6
      @happypasta6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which funnily enough would end up on a Nintendo counsel as it would eventually come to the Switch.

  • @fatyoshi9993
    @fatyoshi9993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    God I would love to be a fly on the wall during Reggie and Kanye's conversation

  • @PluckyInc
    @PluckyInc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    some reason i thought this was going to be a late april fools video, like false swipe gaming's video on maractus. when i saw the footage of that "game", i was honestly thinking that he'd probably turn it into an NFT.

  • @ronniholt25
    @ronniholt25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now the SMG4 episode of Mario Reacts to Nintendo Memes 3 makes a lot more sense now. Daisy, Luigi, and Mario introduce themselves and then when Kanye walks on screen, they all scream in fear.

  • @dr.light64-
    @dr.light64- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    YO NEW VID. I found thomas last Monday and I've been binge watching all of his videos. He's definitely my second favorite youtuber (i have over like 50 favorites) my first being scott the woz. These videos are so clean and relaxing plus they are so god damn informative. With me being a nintendo nerd i totally vibe with this. I love his videos and i honestly wish him the best and can't wait for future documentaries!!! Keep doing what you love dude its awesome!

  • @OneColdMonkey
    @OneColdMonkey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The Kardashians have mobile games, I wonder why he didn't just try to go through those people. You'd think they'd be eager to get it out there even if it was awful just because of the name.

    • @DogDogGodFog
      @DogDogGodFog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why is the name bad of all things? If anything, the genre's the problem. Endless runners are never serious.

    • @AsexTwin
      @AsexTwin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      look at the Kardashian games and that’ll answer your question

  • @cantin8697
    @cantin8697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I don't like that concept of a game brought forward by Kanye personally. It's pretty uncomfortable.
    It seems like a very personal venting project, and I have a hard time believing people will be teaming up to actually do that. Or that people would feel very comfortable playing it.

    • @Ken-dx1ym
      @Ken-dx1ym 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Sorry but the guy is an embarrassment. I wouldn't work work with him. Way too unpredictable. He has MORE than enough money to create his own small game studio and create the game himself. Im sure he could get it on Steam or some other platform. IF the game is any good THEN Nintendo will allow it on their system. I bet he wanted Nintendo to market his 'bad' game too?

    • @vivanecrosis
      @vivanecrosis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Ken-dx1ym you hit the nail on the head. The concept far too personal to be a HUGE game. It might have done well on steam as a novelty at least.

    • @moxxy9249
      @moxxy9249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Ken-dx1ym yet he's more successful than u 😅😅😅

    • @Ken-dx1ym
      @Ken-dx1ym 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@moxxy9249 Maybe!? but is he happier? hmmm, i doubt it.

    • @Ken-dx1ym
      @Ken-dx1ym 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ravenitz right...

  • @luv83
    @luv83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like how I see people talk about Kanye being unstable and all that shit meanwhile video game studios are glorified sweatshops where sexual assault cases are as common as microtransactions in a ea sports game.

    • @agonleed3841
      @agonleed3841 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      be specific with your sexual assaults.
      Apparently a guy lightly touching a woman's arm in a sensual manner is considered sexual assault also.
      so...I'm pretty sure that the woman who was almost raped or the one who was raped, would LOVE to have that moment of ONLY a sesnual touch on the arm and nothing more

    • @478CKniggaa
      @478CKniggaa 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      W kon glazer just like me fr my goat

  • @Sparkle.Glider
    @Sparkle.Glider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This…. is so painful. I’m experiencing serious second-hand embarrassment.

  • @randytyson
    @randytyson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The fact that this game is more likely to be released than Mother 3 being localized.

    • @BenjaminGroff-qi6lc
      @BenjaminGroff-qi6lc ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, Mother 3 is 100,000,000x more likely to be localized… now….

  • @krishnabasavaraju2926
    @krishnabasavaraju2926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like how Kanye casually goes to e3 and just talks to reggie and miyamoto like they're best friends lol

  • @aBathingSloth
    @aBathingSloth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I can’t remember if it was the same game but there was also talks about a platform game him and his team made concept images where you were an angel with a bow&arrow and you would defeat enemies. Only concept images exist. No trailers

  • @MatMadikPCA
    @MatMadikPCA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! I had no idea this occurred, man! Thank you, Tom 😄!!!

  • @mystifydropped2929
    @mystifydropped2929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always find videos like this so interesting

  • @Peregrine57
    @Peregrine57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I kinda get the impression that NOA, or any other regional office wouldn't have the authority really to approve that kind of project. They might be able to get a dialog going, but it would be head office in Japan that makes the decision what kind of first party projects get approved and developed. Reggie wouldn't have been able to say yes even if he'd wanted to. A 3rd party or indie studio could get their game on the platform, but the process for that is completely different. Managing that process is the job of the publisher, not NOA.

  • @grandsome1
    @grandsome1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He should've said: "religious stuff is not really our thing, man, maybe find an experimental indie studio? "

  • @natejoe9924
    @natejoe9924 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I only been on this channel for like a Merle I think like a month or two and I really like this channel

  • @Sanker1
    @Sanker1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally, thanks for the info

  • @Martiganz_
    @Martiganz_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Well ..I did not know there was drama with the two. Interesting..

    • @rjcrusty
      @rjcrusty 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kanye has drama with everyone. Even peppa the pig

  • @HE360_Games
    @HE360_Games 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I don't know why he contacted Nintendo to for his project. Nintendo is one of the most anal video game companies. He should have sinply made a tweet or he could have put something on the news about him wanting to make a game and let video game publishers come to him.

  • @cubeminx7115
    @cubeminx7115 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two of my favorite things ever in one video... I'm excited

  • @pewdiepiedaniel
    @pewdiepiedaniel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At my work we have the Luigi’s Mansion arcade game. It’s a full immersive black box you sit in and use actual real poltergusts. It even has feedback you feel in your hands and you get a first person perspective inside the mansion. It even has 2 player mode. No modding needed. It’s incredibly fun having grown up with Mario and even thoroughly completing Luigi’s Mansion 3. If you ever get the chance you HAVE to play it. It’s a completely new experience.

  • @admiralAlfonso9001
    @admiralAlfonso9001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I would say no to Kanye West

    • @lilmarlon2795
      @lilmarlon2795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      might get a song out of it

    • @AsexTwin
      @AsexTwin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wow so brave

    • @BBWahoo
      @BBWahoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AsexTwin
      I would say yes, but would not actually do it

  • @shannonmills6504
    @shannonmills6504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This man is so underrated. We need to get this guy to a mil

  • @janekverhulst8693
    @janekverhulst8693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always go wait wtf, good content

  • @academiainspirate
    @academiainspirate 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    your videos deserve more views honestly

  • @deepmind5318
    @deepmind5318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    His game may have had heart, but its concept is so generic and simple, that even Nintendo refused to give it resources. An endless runner about Kanye's Mom reaching heaven was also something Nintendo would see as problematic, not to mention that Kanye is already an extremely problematic person. Reggie knew already before the meeting, that Nintendo would stay far away from the whole concept, and far away from an unstable person like Kanye. Clearly, Sony or Microsoft must have known about this and even they didn't find a desire to work with the rapper, since they could've swooped In and said "ok, let's do this". It's not that everyone is ignoring or dissing him, it's just that his ideas are useless to most corporations.

    • @shriderrad4123
      @shriderrad4123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Let's see you come up with some video game concepts since his is so "useless"

  • @legendaryhero132
    @legendaryhero132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love how South Park made it a level in one of the video games. Where you control a Fish version of Kanye's mom get to Heaven.

  • @Yorbamar
    @Yorbamar ปีที่แล้ว

    0:26 the background:on fire
    thomas game docs: casually plays peacefull music

  • @Jedzelex
    @Jedzelex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    According to some sources, this all happened because one of the Kardashians had played Kid Icarus: Uprising on the 3DS. Which is a game where you control an ANGEL that fights hordes of enemies both on the sky and the ground.
    And that someone informed Kanye about the game. And talked about how they could try to have Nintendo create a similar game where the Kid Icarus character was replaced with Kanye's mother.

  • @dubzilla6978
    @dubzilla6978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m kinda glad the game wasn’t made. I’d feel so bad for losing. Imagine telling someone you couldn’t guide their late mother to heaven.

    • @finnmarr-heenan2397
      @finnmarr-heenan2397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “ the shadow remains cast” cue a bunch of demon hands dragging her to hell like bayonetta game over screen , yea ur probably right

  • @CmY2JRSJ
    @CmY2JRSJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man, i just came across your channel randomly and i've been binge watching your videos ever since! Love them! also, there's an other TH-camr (The gaming Merchant), you two sound so alike haha

  • @Flaimflan
    @Flaimflan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your content

  • @Tyro74
    @Tyro74 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn that's interesting
    I didn't know about this thing with Nintendo, - I thought the only video game related connection with Kanye West is an album he was working on called TurboGrafx-16. Cool to know

  • @TheRealJobean
    @TheRealJobean 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In the 2018 game, South Park: The Fractured but Whole, there was a part where you had to help a friend of Kanye West, named Gay fish, get his mom into heaven. I think that's how it started.

    • @masonschwalm2010
      @masonschwalm2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah as soon as I saw the unicorn I thought “this seems familiar”, lol. Glad I finally have an explanation as to what inspired that mini game as it was very bizarre and seemed out of place.

  • @susiloenator
    @susiloenator 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why make a video I forward to the end thank God I did 🙏🙌😌

  • @gregorygrice5795
    @gregorygrice5795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for sharing this story. I hope and pray that Kanye West will bring his hopes and dreams to life! ✨ ❤️

  • @1BlueYoshi
    @1BlueYoshi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The little pieces of the game that you showed do look pretty good, tbh. I'm not even really a Kanye fan (nothing against him, I just don't keep up with his stuff), but I think there is potential to that idea. If not as a game, then at least as a piece of animation.
    Emotional homages as games are definitely something that can be done though. The first that comes to my mind is "That Dragon, Cancer". But I'm not sure an endless-runner type game would be the best way to go about it. I think if Kanye wanted to make Only One a thing, he should look for partners in the indie game space, rather than going straight for the big corporations like Nintendo

  • @kang6914
    @kang6914 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well this is disappointing especially as a Nintendo Switch owner I think this game would have been amazing for visuals alone. Could have been a great side scroller.

  • @PunctualKevin
    @PunctualKevin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    new upload oooh

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders7305 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never heard of this so I’m intrigued by the title

  • @whistlingbeardo3270
    @whistlingbeardo3270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wanna see the bear from graduation in the next super smash

    • @christron5368
      @christron5368 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, Dropout Bear looks like he was taken straight from a Nintendo game.

  • @dylwintftw
    @dylwintftw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kanye could've easily made Super Mario World, but NIntendo never could've made Yeezus.

    • @lasagnaloverleo
      @lasagnaloverleo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      based

    • @sleephead00
      @sleephead00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean, his career did start with him making music for his penis mario game, so yeah, he probably could make Super Mario World.

  • @cosmico7108
    @cosmico7108 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ♥︎ Thank you

  • @TBoneTony
    @TBoneTony 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I first thought that this was going to be about that Super Mario Warp to Level 69 song that some other rapper did back in the early 2000s.

  • @bsctsngrvy9089
    @bsctsngrvy9089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To be fair the game doesn't exactly sound like a "best seller." I dont mean my words as shade, it just clearly has a select audience. The concept of "heaven" itself isn't even very all-including. it all sounds a little personal, a little real and a little religious for Nintendo, or any main developer for that matter. It sounds like there would be very little money in such a title, which leads me to my next point, Kanye just wants the game made. I can't blame him, it's very personal to him and I hope he gets it made eventually, but the reason companies likely won't do it for him is because there seems to be nothing in it for them. Theyre acting more than on a personal level here, they have to think of the company. There are places for this kinda thing though, this kind've game isn't for big name producers, it's a personal passion project, a runner that was meant to be a phone game. It sounds to me like the place for a game like this is Steam or the Google store, alongside the other Indie titles. If the game becomes big enough, then ask Nintendo for a console release.

  • @DaleWalter96
    @DaleWalter96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Kanye was probably declined because the quality of the game itself may not have been something Nintendo felt comfortable putting their name on & they would essentially have to re-develop the entire thing which would more than likely ruin Kanyes vision entirely. I can understand both sides but I still think Nintendo should have gone with it & explained to him that the creation process/end result may not be what he had in mind. If he was still willing to go through with it, then it could have been a financial success.

    • @phoenix9531
      @phoenix9531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There is not much to gain at all for Nintendo associating themselves with Kanye West. No reason why they wouldn't continue working on their own, successfull and artistically well-concepted games.

    • @DaleWalter96
      @DaleWalter96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@phoenix9531 People will buy anything just because it has Kanyes name on it especially if it is a quality product so it would be profitable for both parties involved especially because Kanye has the money to market it himself & he could just as easily do it with a third party rather than having it be an exclusive title.

    • @phoenix9531
      @phoenix9531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@DaleWalter96 People will buy Nintendo stuff too. Anything they do with Kanye would also mean not using those resources for projects of their own. But arguing that far ignores the simple truth about how ridiculous such a crossover would be. Nintendo cares about their brands reputation and image. Kanye is a walking joke that they most certainly wouldn't want to closely associate themselves with.

    • @DaleWalter96
      @DaleWalter96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@phoenix9531 Ridiculous crossover? Remind me again who the starring cast of the new Mario movie is. That argument is invalid & what I said still stands regardless of your opinion.

    • @phoenix9531
      @phoenix9531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DaleWalter96Do tell me, how many legitimately concerning psychological/legal/immoral/controversial dramas is chris pratt involved in?

  • @Shad0wed
    @Shad0wed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its finally here.

  • @katceberio6671
    @katceberio6671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a wild ride from start to finish.

  • @TheItalianoAssassino
    @TheItalianoAssassino 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kanye in Smash confirmed

  • @wii_is_better8887
    @wii_is_better8887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    My friend loves Kanye and I love Nintendo so I can’t wait to tell him about this because he didn’t know about the drama with Nintendo and West.

    • @admiralAlfonso9001
      @admiralAlfonso9001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You will need to take sides

    • @lopesinho
      @lopesinho 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@admiralAlfonso9001
      We are talking about Kanye here there's only one side

  • @scallywag841
    @scallywag841 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm surprised noone has brought up THAT level in Southpark Fractured But Whole where you get to play "Only One"

  • @Idontknow4
    @Idontknow4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I SAW THE POLL I wanted one of the other videos but oh well still good video

  • @fredericchen8132
    @fredericchen8132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    To save your time:
    Kanye West wanted to make a video game about his mother, found Nintendo's U.S. CEO on E3 event, invited him to his mansion (Kim Kardashian was also there), and got turned down.

  • @_mango_
    @_mango_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My Beautiful Dark Twisted Video Game

    • @Tomic_K2
      @Tomic_K2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

    • @getuptoo
      @getuptoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly, it could play like Sayonara Wild Hearts.

  • @rtyuik7
    @rtyuik7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "cmon, Reg, can i at least get a cameo or somethin? ill be Kanye Koopa!"

  • @jvgonzalez90
    @jvgonzalez90 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah yes, information about an interaction with nothing dramatic about it is classified as "drama".
    *Valksibum94 intro quietly plays*
    For real though, I didn't know about this and it sounds pretty cool. Thanks for making this video!

  • @quinnv.3499
    @quinnv.3499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Kanye's been told no so many times. He was told no when he tried to rap, he was told no when he entered the fashion space, but he always pulls through. Even if only one doesnt come out, Im sure He'll make at least one video game during his career

    • @Hero_of_Legend
      @Hero_of_Legend 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And it'll sell like ET.

    • @muzuchama
      @muzuchama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Hero_of_Legend it'll probably play like it too

    • @lordflame89
      @lordflame89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      With Unreal Engine 5 and a team of 100 people or so that can understand his vision it might become a reality.

    • @jg9830
      @jg9830 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hero_of_Legend Kanye sells shoes made out of JUST foam and they led to a multi billion dollar brand so idk why you would think he doesn’t know what it takes to make people buy shit 😭

    • @Hero_of_Legend
      @Hero_of_Legend ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jg9830 So he managed to figure out how to con people dumber than himself. I stand corrected.

  • @glidershower
    @glidershower 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Reggie was right at telling Kanye that. They're very demanding and unforgiving, and Reggie felt that Kanye would not like to have such a personal project be stomped down by Nintendo's hardline attitude towards developing.
    Still, tho, _South Park did him a solid and made his game within their own game, free of charge, lolz._

  • @jamessicard1705
    @jamessicard1705 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't expect to wake up to this

  • @flareonboii1515
    @flareonboii1515 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have seen the poll for this before

  • @SomeSprites
    @SomeSprites 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Where's...the drama? Because this video sure doesn't present this whole situation as dramatical in any way.

  • @thekydragon
    @thekydragon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    "You don't say no to Kanye West" I don't know, if more people did, the world would probably be better off.

    • @R3DPandaLP
      @R3DPandaLP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      the reason he is who he is is because people told kanye west 'no'. So I guess you are right, the world is better off.

    • @boomerthedingo2196
      @boomerthedingo2196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If people said no to him more often, we wouldnt have half of the revolutionary music he has created
      Kanye is based

    • @Windsguidance
      @Windsguidance 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@boomerthedingo2196 'revolutionary'
      sure

    • @fritzthecat8158
      @fritzthecat8158 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@R3DPandaLP preach 🙌 everyone who doesn't like kanye is too busy creaming over our dementia ridden president that can't stop smelling kids long enough to lower the inflation he caused

    • @boomerthedingo2196
      @boomerthedingo2196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Windsguidance im sorry but its clear you have 0 clue of kanye's history, impact or even a vague understanding of his story and landscape changing hiphop sound
      Theres a reason he is where he is.
      Stick to reading celebrity hitpieces and twitter bluechecks

  • @someoneontheinternet4518
    @someoneontheinternet4518 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    (comment for algorithm, keep up the great work!)

  • @flamingoodness4923
    @flamingoodness4923 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well that’s a title I didn’t think I’d read today

  • @russianthugs1791
    @russianthugs1791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How many games did Kanye West try to make?
    Only one

  • @zetra9862
    @zetra9862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My favorite game company and favorite artist beefing… this is the worst timeline possible lol

  • @supersmashbro596
    @supersmashbro596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    reggie should have said : look kanye, we're super super busy with other projects. this was a very bad time to ask for things, considering e3. however, in the future, we will consider it.
    also kanye is acting like a child.

  • @elijahschmadel3033
    @elijahschmadel3033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hate being Bowser
    It’s awesome