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it's an interesting point you made about the process of making with the display of the mold as I remember when being in art school one of the hardest and most difficult lessons to learn about making art was that the idea of a 'final product' was never necessary or required, even in the context of having your work critiqued for a grade in an institution. my tutors quite often would encourage us to just be 'making' all the time because the idea of having a susinct finished piece takes a lot away from how the process is the most important part. it's not a wholly new idea of course but it's very healthy for artists to present questions rather than answers. conversation starters, rather than buzz killers.
When i saw the exhibition, i saw another aspect making a link between all of his creations, and even other ones in the past, martin margiela is french and « blanket » and « cover » use the same word : « couverture », maybe the link is harder to make in english but it s still there, we can see that theme in his works in the past with big blanket becoming a garment on the body or garments with only the mark of the details on the outside, that’s also working with masks. Covering something will reveal it better, covering a body with a garment outline the body, and on the outside of the garment we can see the forms of the body which is inside. This covering theme is also in all his hair works, covering the face, or the body hair which are covering the body, if something cover another thing, with the time, it will transform, like the hair becoming white, or the missing art work leaving a mark on the ground… he cover with hairs heads, heads on magazine, a bus stop… he cover with other things, like the building, it s about to see and to not see, see whats under with only whats outside, there is a notion of disappearance… even molding and silicone is about form and the negativ form, so there is a link in the covering theme Thats all, i hope my english is not so bad but i thought some of you wanted to see what i saw personally when i saw the exhibition (and i only talked about the ones you mentioned in your video but i m sure the red nails and also the object with a leather cover on it is also about that)
I expected something more, but I guess even Margiela has to start somewhere. His ideas were groundbreaking in fashion, but in art, over 30 years after his first show, they're MFA student level. Drawing attention to everyday objects or rituals should just be a starting point of a piece. Covering a bus stop in fur though, what else does that do? There are other places it could have gone, like how bus stops can be places of refuge for the homeless. But seeing his fur wrapped traffic cone, I don't think this piece has anything other than surreal shock factor. The vanitas piece is definitely striking but still shallow. It does read as nonexistence, but not death in my mind, even though hair and nails do last longer than the body. What does it mean that the hair is leftover in pristine condition? Why are there multiples? Where is the other core symbolism to vanitas, the vanity of earthly pleasure? There is room here perhaps to represent human presentation and alteration as a pleasure, and vaniTY, and the chemicals and non organics leaving behind traces of that experience longer than our bodies. Maybe that was his intention, and if so I don't think this piece achieves it. Scrolling image is a piece that gets lost in the process. Why is the focus on basically a square inch of ball sack? The process is also not evident from looking at it, so it being a copy of a copy of a copy, which I believe is the core theme, is muddied. Maybe the billboard is a commentary on advertising's influence on individual presentation. It would have worked better with some of his magazine hair photography. The magazines themselves would be better if developed beyond just hair, and the triptych would be better in a different medium, perhaps as notes written within a magazine, or hair shade cards instead of poorly lit semi gloss paint (maybe I'm missing a reference here). I think these three pieces could have been merged together in some way and been far more effective. Process itself as art is such a tired idea. The absence of his previously displayed pieces is self important. And your interpretation of the building wrap is a lot more exciting than it is. This particular building changes mechanically, but is it dilapidated or does it represent a bygone era? Sure, its getting older as we all are, but from what I saw its not a strong representation of ageing. The deodorant piece is nice and simple at least. I imagine it has no scent either.
Surrealism and deconstruction have already been picked apart to death both in fashion and in art so it's no surprise Margiela who's waited so long to put out more work would be behind the times. In many ways the world moved on without him.
Man, I too hope no one enjoys art as passe as this. Imagine what an absolute prole you would have to be to get a kick out of experiencing something for yourself that countless others have experienced before you. Like, what is the point even? Letting someone express themselves?
I went to this exhibit in person a few months ago as I was just walking around paris with a friend and stumbled upon it by chance. We found out it was free and decided to take a look. That aspect was a cool experience as it was so accidental that the two of us who are great fans of his fashion work just happened upon it, even still I wish I could say the same for the exhibit itself. I have to agree with your critiques as even at the time I thought that margiela was better off sticking to his fashion work that made him so renowned. I too am a designer but in undergrad I had to take lots of studio art classes and I personally think Margielas works were basically on the level of some of my artwork and ideas from 2018/2019 when I was only 20. Even at the time I never thought that my work so important or interesting to display or enter it in any galleries. Yet here was Margiela, years more experience and LOTS more money and resources, whose been making this work for the last decade or so and showing it in a 4 story gallery space. He even had a bunch of (probably underpaid) people in there doing performance work for him or explaining each piece to us in an absurd amount of detail. I thought it was telling that the work itself could not speak for itself so much that he had to have someone there breaking down exactly what each piece represents and how it was made and so on. I wanted to respect the time of the speaker though so I listened to every word and felt bad because she was clearly nervous and was forced to deliver such long monologues to a crowd that was largely completely disinterested in the tedious explanations. I probably sound really harsh but it’s just frustrating that the art world is so exclusive and difficult and so many incredible visions are barred from entry because of a lack of privilege. Either they had great ideas and never were able to bring them to fruition because of needing to work crappy jobs, or otherwise not having the resources to make truly groundbreaking work, or the art world itself never gave them the chance etc. Maybe I’m just bitter but I just get annoyed when mediocre crap bubbles into prominence above true visionaries. However the blame for this cannot be placed on margiela himself. This is a systematic issue that no amount of his personal money could ever substantially help fix. I also think that making this exhibition free was a great choice. Art should almost always be accessible to everyone, especially great art. I hope Margiela grows as an artist, I know he has great potential
@@seanloiselle6653 Assuming this is sarcasm, Margiela is free to express himself and I am free to critique it, countless artists are expressing themselves, sometimes even just to themselves, and not in a huge gallery space that sets the stage for expectations, who knows maybe that was the point, just like his deodorant piece, a groundbreaking fashion designer showing his art in an impressive gallery only for it to be tired and trite, I'd love for Margiela to continue making art but why leverage his connections for something so underdeveloped, he should keep working on it, dig a bit deeper and do some group shows under a different name
@@andreja9425 as you said, that's just how it usually goes, you either have existing connections or have to hope you're one of the chosen few that gets sacrificed to the pyramid scheme that is art by hype men investors
Thank you for this review of his show...I find it interesting that he is making art. As an artist, I can understand to some degree where he is coming from in his work, it is very conceptual, is pleasing to look at, even if his concepts are not clear. The body is referenced in many ways. I can imagine he needed to take the step into art making because it allowed him to let loose of clothing and focus more specifically on other concerns that he is fascinated with.
i feel like its showing what media is so afraid of portraying, aging or waiting. wasting time. and time itself. The pieces force the audience to think about the process (aka. time)
Karl Lagerfeld once said that “Art shouldn’t be afraid of fashion and fashion should not be afraid of art. Architecture is all we need because we need a roof over our heads”. Love this overall, though I left some critiques throughout this comment section ✨
When you talked about the mould, I instantly got reminded of a video with David Shrigley where he said “The artwork is the residue of a process.” Not that it adds more to the work, just thought it was pretty neat.
another informative video but if i can be honest i feel margiela could put out anything and you'd love it. like a book with all blank pages or something. maybe that that has something to do with the fact that we never hear about the things that you aren't into. we don't know about your standards, we don't know about the movements youre less fond of. youre never critical. as far as I'm aware the industry has you eating right from the palm of they hands.
I honestly don’t have time to cover things I don’t like 🤷 why would I spend 30 hours crafting a video if it’s just to talk about low quality stuff. I make videos that help people further enjoy shows they want to learn more about 💫💫
@@BlissFoster I mean I get it but it's that same ideology that has you looking like a Jack Russell Terrier on here. Some of us want more. Some of us want to hear that cutting edge feedback so that we can then go and be sharp.
@@GoldenThreads1 Sounds like you want homie to do your work for you. Take what Bliss teaches, learn what that means he thinks "works" and then take time applying that filter along w/ your own experience to things and see what _doesn't_ work for you.
@@seanloiselle6653 Im already well off... I know who I am, what I stand for, where to go and how to do it... almost to a fault. (Almost). I've been in this for a while. I'm actually sewing right now. I'm actually just bored, exercising my intellect and speaking up for the people don't even know there's alterior perspectives or that are too afraid to speak up. But what you said would otherwise be valid!
@@GoldenThreads1 very confused. It seems like you’re looking and wanting bliss to be something he’s not and has never provided in his content. He’s never made cutting edge critical feedback on designers works. He reviews and forms analysis on shows and works he’s fond of or finds interesting. This has always been his channel why is it all of a sudden a problem now?
About the mold piece, I think it would be useful to see it through the recurring pattern in Margielas work of showing the process behind art, turning things inside out, and showing that the way art is created can often be more interesting than the final product. You mentioned that but I think Margiela has a history with this sort of analysis and maybe the mold is showing his love for this concept being applied in a more literal, practical sense?
hey bliss i would really like to see you review some of the earlier raf simons collections virginia creeper aw02 fear generation ss02 may the circle be unbroken ss04 im thinking these because they are lesser talked about except VC of course but few people seem to understand it correctly or even just well. extremely few people have published any sort of Analysis on them so it can be difficult to get a more in depth idea on whats going on in them. i hope you are up for the challenge, they are in my opinion rafs most important shows.
One thing I've noticed is that artists tend to have a morbid curiosity about the cycle of life towards the end of their life. I don't want to put anything bad out into the universe but this is something to think about.
Love the sweater you're wearing in this video! Who made it? As a handknitter I had to pause the video a couple of times to look at it up close and think about how I would knit it. I just finished the construction sketch and am about to cast on. Also, great Margiela content as always Bliss.
Hey Bliss, love your content. I'm a fashion desing student from South Africa and I'd like to know what 'Resort' collections are actually for. Do consumers actually buy resortwear for vacations? And if so, how are they actually different from Spring/Summer or Autumn/Winter collections?
Hi! Great question! “Resort“ is kind of a nickname for Collections that are between major seasons. Originally, they were for customers that would go on big cruises or elaborate vacations during this time of year, but I don’t think that’s meant literally anymore. Those collections are usually water down versions of the main spring summer or autumn winter Collections. Often times, because the pieces in resort collections are more approachable, buyers tend to spend more money during those collections than in the main seasons. Hopefully this helps!
Bliss I think this is a wonderful video and I think what people are missing is all this added pressure on Martin Margiela to create something that fits their narrative of “art”. I think in iteself this “controversy” is possibly what he’d want. People stomping their feet because it isn’t some grand spectacular exhibit , even though in my eyes it is because it’s so simple. Isn’t that what getting older is about? Simplicity?
Love this...and you're enthusiasm for fashion!! Just a thought in regards to some of the subject matter in the exhibit: Isn't hair already dead...a waste product of the human body??... but yet society spends a fortune trying to keep it "healthy".
ALso there are earlier sculptures wood carvings from him right after his departure from fash... He also burned his archive of clothing & made a sculpture from the ashes I believe. xXx
Based on what you've shown of the exhibition (not having seen it myself), I'm curious about the focus on whiteness that many of the works seem to have. Whether its the graying of hair or the white residue of deodorant, alongside the framing and literal putting on a pedestal of Caucasian (read: White) hair, the exposing and concealing of whiteness seems to be pretty central to these works' preoccupations. I'd be curious to hear more about how race is thematized in the exhibition.
I don't think race was anything to do with it, if he did it with black to white hair, there wouldn't be as much of a change over the stages that's as visually impactful as blonde to grey to white. But that's just my opinion and I believe you have a valid curiousity however I am just sick and tired of people viewing art through the lense of race (coming from the experience of being a hetero-asian male at OCAD University feeled with overt "wokism" echo-chambers). He just loves the colour white lol same thing as Yohji Yamamoto loving black lol
Long time watcher, first time commenter… I LOVE fashion and have always been aggravated when talking to my hype beast friends who I feel enjoy clout and name more than history and commentary taking place. I subscribe to your patreon because you talk about fashion in a way that makes it feel so important and inspired in a way which is unparalleled to anything else I’ve ever consumed. So thank you, I don’t feel vapid or shallow learning from you in a way I sometimes struggle with feeling when consuming other sources. As much as I love to learn and am now obsessed with margiela because of the series ( bought a tote and jeans), I can’t make myself spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on designer pieces when that’s not what I my lifestyle allows or I don’t have a deep relationship or attachment to the brand. However I want my closet to be quality and art, even down to the staples. I’d love to wear younger and quality designs with thought. What’s the mid between luxury and fast fashion?
Thanks so much for the kind words, Muryem! There’s definitely a balance. Designer stuff doesn’t have to be super expensive. Check out my video “how to find designer clothes cheap online”, that should help 😊 Thanks again for the encouragement 💫💫
@@BlissFosterThe feel of something on my body, particularly silk has been a fixation for me over the past year, but then I’m tweaking and afraid when I’m outside in the world. I’m currently obsessing over postergirl and love the mix of a shapewear feel with the interesting cuts and twang of a y2k vibe. Makes my body feel confident yet comfortable. I shall rewatch the video and commit to doing some research! I also want to suggest looking at Josh Kercher who is a friend/designer who does bespoke tailoring and exquisite custom leather/the nicest guy you ever met in your life..if you’re ever looking to go really homegrown creative.
6:08 "The making of the thing is what is most fulfilling." Hard agree. I crochet and making the blanket is always more fun for me than actually using it.
What is it? And Why? Are my reactions to art like this. And, although I know intellectually that is exactly the quality art should have - to be challenging and questioning. For example; I do love a classic carving of a bust, a figurine the painting of the voluptuous woman, the Adonis, nudes in multiple quarters in their offering to Christ or a cherubim. To wax lyrically about the process of creating pigment, of sitting, of the realism in the art and the mastery it must take, I get. But, when I get to post modern art I have problems establishing what is and what is not good. When artists push the button politically, culturally, as soon as I recognise it I am on it. But some seem self indulgent. I am not seeing that here, I don't think (and I am mindful that I am trying to formulate an opinion based on this short video) because I sense that I am meant to be an observer and the meaning has not been defined (for references I am not familiar with his art /I will catch up with the collection of analysis on here) so I think that I have a problem. But I'm holding onto the exploration of the process; but the hair must mean something more? The hair is really symbolic. It has strong cultural ties; beauty being key. There is/is there a lot of commentary on beauty throughout his work? I feel like if I say that that is the connection then it makes the thing trite cos my reading brings it all back to the mundane. The fur covered bus shelter (bus shelters are generally undesirable; the windows are often busted/smashed, graffiti in large format black markers - nothing cool to say and smelling of urine) takes it out of context. Ok, I'll leave it here cos I've gone on more than was my intention. But before I go I just want to say, thanks Bliss great stuff and thanks for allowing this experience.
Hair as a symbol of beauty is strong, but unfortunately I don't think Margiela has either the personal experience or level of cultural understanding to better represent that, at least based on this exhibition. Hair can be a comment on class, on gender, on race. Sure those can go cliche fast, and he's not necessarily in the position to represent those partcilar themes, but Margiela just presents hair as what, different colors? If he wanted to comment on hair and ageing, even an exhibition about the plight of ageing twinks would have been more effective. He seems too trapped visually by his surrealist and dada tendencies to actually dive deeper.
> I have problems establishing what is and what is not good Approaching art as an experience and not something to be judged help me appreciate more of it. "Good" or "bad" is simply your experience of judging it, but you can instead ask, "What does this make me feel?" and find a lot more about your connections and what pieces mean to you.
Most modern art is a skeletal deposition from Gods holy ordinance and a logical conclusion of a centurys old manic quest towards nihilsm, atheism and final self abortion.
First of all, I am not so familiar with Martins work (YET) but I feel like this exhibition is mostly about a point of view. It is easy to place some random object with a tag and description in a room and call it a piece of art, but the difficult part is encouraging people/visitors to "dig in". Ordinary visitor without desire to understand would call this exhibition pure nonsense or a joke... but for me it is really interesting how we can look at some daily used products and change our perspective. For example hiding our true self into hair dye, while we are aging or using a big amount of deodorant during the puberty etc. I am not sure if I consider this exhibition to be groundbreaking, but it surely speaks about some crucial processes in our lives and how we can see them. In the end Martin carried out the process of "digging deeper" very well, whether it is about understanding an art concept or holding a deodorant in our hand... or standing at a bus stop while watching this amazing video. (p.s. sorry for my English)
The fact that this FASHION channel is covering an ART exhibition, (granted, its margiela's) says a lot. Often times I find that art is overlooked by fashion people or not given enough credit. think about it.
So, this is studio artwork by Martin Margiela, the man. These pieces have no association with Maison Margiela, the brand. I should have clarified that in the video itself, my bad. If you’d like to see some of the profoundly innovative stuff that the brand is doing now, check out my video called “A Master Course in Fashion Design: How to Make the Best Clothes” 💫💫
There really isn't a single new or fresh idea here to be honest. It feels impersonal, disconnected, overly produced. When you hear the name Margiela, you expect innovation, challenging ideas, something unexpected. This was basically the opposite, dull and self-important.
And to act like it is interesting feels disingenuous, either someone who barely knows anything about art history or someone who idolizes Margiela to the point that even his shit tastes sweet.
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Thank you for the review and your interest in our book! I'm the Head of Publishing at Lafayette Anticipations and YES all sticky notes where pasted by hand. The printer's workshop placed 132.000 notes in total, it was a crazy nightmare. They had never done this before :)
It really is a beautiful piece! Thanks so much for all the work you do!
Thank you bliss, no one makes content quite like you.
That means a lot to me Santi, thank you
literally on my phone trying to buy that deodorant while Bliss yelling stop multitasking
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Unreal creativity with each piece having so many layers. It’s so fascinating to get a bit more understanding about Martin’s world. Thanks you
it's an interesting point you made about the process of making with the display of the mold as I remember when being in art school one of the hardest and most difficult lessons to learn about making art was that the idea of a 'final product' was never necessary or required, even in the context of having your work critiqued for a grade in an institution. my tutors quite often would encourage us to just be 'making' all the time because the idea of having a susinct finished piece takes a lot away from how the process is the most important part. it's not a wholly new idea of course but it's very healthy for artists to present questions rather than answers. conversation starters, rather than buzz killers.
3:15 it is incredible how your reel-ins always know when my adhd is kicking off
When i saw the exhibition, i saw another aspect making a link between all of his creations, and even other ones in the past, martin margiela is french and « blanket » and « cover » use the same word : « couverture », maybe the link is harder to make in english but it s still there, we can see that theme in his works in the past with big blanket becoming a garment on the body or garments with only the mark of the details on the outside, that’s also working with masks. Covering something will reveal it better, covering a body with a garment outline the body, and on the outside of the garment we can see the forms of the body which is inside. This covering theme is also in all his hair works, covering the face, or the body hair which are covering the body, if something cover another thing, with the time, it will transform, like the hair becoming white, or the missing art work leaving a mark on the ground… he cover with hairs heads, heads on magazine, a bus stop… he cover with other things, like the building, it s about to see and to not see, see whats under with only whats outside, there is a notion of disappearance… even molding and silicone is about form and the negativ form, so there is a link in the covering theme
Thats all, i hope my english is not so bad but i thought some of you wanted to see what i saw personally when i saw the exhibition (and i only talked about the ones you mentioned in your video but i m sure the red nails and also the object with a leather cover on it is also about that)
Zeno-X just announced Martin's first show in Beijing, in July.
Just bought that catalogue! Thanks for including that. It's being sent from Paris to New Zealand right now! 🙌🏽
I expected something more, but I guess even Margiela has to start somewhere. His ideas were groundbreaking in fashion, but in art, over 30 years after his first show, they're MFA student level.
Drawing attention to everyday objects or rituals should just be a starting point of a piece. Covering a bus stop in fur though, what else does that do? There are other places it could have gone, like how bus stops can be places of refuge for the homeless. But seeing his fur wrapped traffic cone, I don't think this piece has anything other than surreal shock factor.
The vanitas piece is definitely striking but still shallow. It does read as nonexistence, but not death in my mind, even though hair and nails do last longer than the body. What does it mean that the hair is leftover in pristine condition? Why are there multiples? Where is the other core symbolism to vanitas, the vanity of earthly pleasure? There is room here perhaps to represent human presentation and alteration as a pleasure, and vaniTY, and the chemicals and non organics leaving behind traces of that experience longer than our bodies. Maybe that was his intention, and if so I don't think this piece achieves it.
Scrolling image is a piece that gets lost in the process. Why is the focus on basically a square inch of ball sack? The process is also not evident from looking at it, so it being a copy of a copy of a copy, which I believe is the core theme, is muddied. Maybe the billboard is a commentary on advertising's influence on individual presentation. It would have worked better with some of his magazine hair photography. The magazines themselves would be better if developed beyond just hair, and the triptych would be better in a different medium, perhaps as notes written within a magazine, or hair shade cards instead of poorly lit semi gloss paint (maybe I'm missing a reference here). I think these three pieces could have been merged together in some way and been far more effective.
Process itself as art is such a tired idea. The absence of his previously displayed pieces is self important. And your interpretation of the building wrap is a lot more exciting than it is. This particular building changes mechanically, but is it dilapidated or does it represent a bygone era? Sure, its getting older as we all are, but from what I saw its not a strong representation of ageing.
The deodorant piece is nice and simple at least. I imagine it has no scent either.
Surrealism and deconstruction have already been picked apart to death both in fashion and in art so it's no surprise Margiela who's waited so long to put out more work would be behind the times. In many ways the world moved on without him.
Man, I too hope no one enjoys art as passe as this. Imagine what an absolute prole you would have to be to get a kick out of experiencing something for yourself that countless others have experienced before you. Like, what is the point even? Letting someone express themselves?
I went to this exhibit in person a few months ago as I was just walking around paris with a friend and stumbled upon it by chance. We found out it was free and decided to take a look. That aspect was a cool experience as it was so accidental that the two of us who are great fans of his fashion work just happened upon it, even still I wish I could say the same for the exhibit itself. I have to agree with your critiques as even at the time I thought that margiela was better off sticking to his fashion work that made him so renowned. I too am a designer but in undergrad I had to take lots of studio art classes and I personally think Margielas works were basically on the level of some of my artwork and ideas from 2018/2019 when I was only 20. Even at the time I never thought that my work so important or interesting to display or enter it in any galleries. Yet here was Margiela, years more experience and LOTS more money and resources, whose been making this work for the last decade or so and showing it in a 4 story gallery space. He even had a bunch of (probably underpaid) people in there doing performance work for him or explaining each piece to us in an absurd amount of detail. I thought it was telling that the work itself could not speak for itself so much that he had to have someone there breaking down exactly what each piece represents and how it was made and so on. I wanted to respect the time of the speaker though so I listened to every word and felt bad because she was clearly nervous and was forced to deliver such long monologues to a crowd that was largely completely disinterested in the tedious explanations.
I probably sound really harsh but it’s just frustrating that the art world is so exclusive and difficult and so many incredible visions are barred from entry because of a lack of privilege. Either they had great ideas and never were able to bring them to fruition because of needing to work crappy jobs, or otherwise not having the resources to make truly groundbreaking work, or the art world itself never gave them the chance etc. Maybe I’m just bitter but I just get annoyed when mediocre crap bubbles into prominence above true visionaries.
However the blame for this cannot be placed on margiela himself. This is a systematic issue that no amount of his personal money could ever substantially help fix. I also think that making this exhibition free was a great choice. Art should almost always be accessible to everyone, especially great art. I hope Margiela grows as an artist, I know he has great potential
@@seanloiselle6653 Assuming this is sarcasm, Margiela is free to express himself and I am free to critique it, countless artists are expressing themselves, sometimes even just to themselves, and not in a huge gallery space that sets the stage for expectations, who knows maybe that was the point, just like his deodorant piece, a groundbreaking fashion designer showing his art in an impressive gallery only for it to be tired and trite, I'd love for Margiela to continue making art but why leverage his connections for something so underdeveloped, he should keep working on it, dig a bit deeper and do some group shows under a different name
@@andreja9425 as you said, that's just how it usually goes, you either have existing connections or have to hope you're one of the chosen few that gets sacrificed to the pyramid scheme that is art by hype men investors
Bliss is definitely the type of Dad to tell you he's not angry, he's disappointed.
Thank you for this review of his show...I find it interesting that he is making art. As an artist, I can understand to some degree where he is coming from in his work, it is very conceptual, is pleasing to look at, even if his concepts are not clear. The body is referenced in many ways. I can imagine he needed to take the step into art making because it allowed him to let loose of clothing and focus more specifically on other concerns that he is fascinated with.
Same! As an artist I do understand it. But some of Margiela’s art concepts are just developing.
thanks bliss
This is very interesting artwork. I'm enjoying learning about the minds and works of all these famous designers I've never known a thing about.
Bliss, you’re amazing, truly, I would be lost without you 😭 Thank you 🙏
i feel like its showing what media is so afraid of portraying, aging or waiting. wasting time. and time itself. The pieces force the audience to think about the process (aka. time)
never disappoint bliss especially when it comes to goat talk
omg I would love to see this!
Brilliant. Thank you.
Karl Lagerfeld once said that “Art shouldn’t be afraid of fashion and fashion should not be afraid of art. Architecture is all we need because we need a roof over our heads”.
Love this overall, though I left some critiques throughout this comment section ✨
As always. You killed it Bliss.
So much ideas to swallow! Got to come back for another time!
Thank you. You are a star!❤
When you talked about the mould, I instantly got reminded of a video with David Shrigley where he said “The artwork is the residue of a process.” Not that it adds more to the work, just thought it was pretty neat.
Bliss this video is incredible.
fr you got me at 3:12 hahah i live for your interruptions
Found your channel recently and am in love with your work! Keep on rocking!
As much as I love fashion, I could never get into decor, this doesn't move me.
THANK YOU!
Bought the book from this no hesitations
I think it would be interesting to see you cover more fine arts things, branching out from fashion. Not change direction but just add the arts part
I agree! Since a lot of credit is being given to Margiela for his art! LOVE IT yes! BUT his ideas do stem from a “fine art” approach.
“Stop multitasking come back” how did you know 😭
The fur bus stop is giving uzumaki cepeda
much love to ya ! 🤍
another informative video but if i can be honest i feel margiela could put out anything and you'd love it. like a book with all blank pages or something. maybe that that has something to do with the fact that we never hear about the things that you aren't into. we don't know about your standards, we don't know about the movements youre less fond of. youre never critical. as far as I'm aware the industry has you eating right from the palm of they hands.
I honestly don’t have time to cover things I don’t like 🤷 why would I spend 30 hours crafting a video if it’s just to talk about low quality stuff. I make videos that help people further enjoy shows they want to learn more about 💫💫
@@BlissFoster I mean I get it but it's that same ideology that has you looking like a Jack Russell Terrier on here.
Some of us want more. Some of us want to hear that cutting edge feedback so that we can then go and be sharp.
@@GoldenThreads1 Sounds like you want homie to do your work for you. Take what Bliss teaches, learn what that means he thinks "works" and then take time applying that filter along w/ your own experience to things and see what _doesn't_ work for you.
@@seanloiselle6653 Im already well off... I know who I am, what I stand for, where to go and how to do it... almost to a fault. (Almost). I've been in this for a while. I'm actually sewing right now.
I'm actually just bored, exercising my intellect and speaking up for the people don't even know there's alterior perspectives or that are too afraid to speak up.
But what you said would otherwise be valid!
@@GoldenThreads1 very confused. It seems like you’re looking and wanting bliss to be something he’s not and has never provided in his content. He’s never made cutting edge critical feedback on designers works. He reviews and forms analysis on shows and works he’s fond of or finds interesting. This has always been his channel why is it all of a sudden a problem now?
About the mold piece, I think it would be useful to see it through the recurring pattern in Margielas work of showing the process behind art, turning things inside out, and showing that the way art is created can often be more interesting than the final product. You mentioned that but I think Margiela has a history with this sort of analysis and maybe the mold is showing his love for this concept being applied in a more literal, practical sense?
that part about an empty placeholder for a piece of art as art. omg marty mar what a troll luv him.
the building covering piece. Looney Tunes.
More Art analysis videos pleaseeeee. Maybe on a second channel? That'd be so awesome!
Great sweater btw
I wish you'd use even more of the content you would have gotten from actually being there, tbh. Take us with you, put us into the space.
hair is one of the only parts of the body that remains after decomposing when referring to death, interesting detail whether it was intentional or not
The art itself, it does remind me of other work contemporary artists right off the back. A copy of a copy.
! thank you bliss. what's the name of the book? do u know where can i get it?
can't wait till Bliss Foster throws on a snapback hat or a bucket hat on for a video for the culture
hey bliss i would really like to see you review some of the earlier raf simons collections
virginia creeper aw02
fear generation ss02
may the circle be unbroken ss04
im thinking these because they are lesser talked about except VC of course but few people seem to understand it correctly or even just well. extremely few people have published any sort of Analysis on them so it can be difficult to get a more in depth idea on whats going on in them.
i hope you are up for the challenge, they are in my opinion rafs most important shows.
One thing I've noticed is that artists tend to have a morbid curiosity about the cycle of life towards the end of their life. I don't want to put anything bad out into the universe but this is something to think about.
Damn I saw the pieces of him in Bielefeld in 2020 and didn’t even realise that it was Margiela
the "blond" process piece is like the stockman vests/waistcoats!
i do 3d models and renders and i was so sure it's a tutorial for hair material when i saw thumbnail ahahaha
Love the sweater you're wearing in this video! Who made it? As a handknitter I had to pause the video a couple of times to look at it up close and think about how I would knit it. I just finished the construction sketch and am about to cast on. Also, great Margiela content as always Bliss.
Gary Graham 🦾 I label everything I’m wearing the first few seconds of every video 😌💫
@@BlissFoster Thank you!
Is he (Martin) still with the company?
Nope! Martin left in 2009
Thank you for this wonderful video. Martin Margiela really strikes a chord that reminds us we are afraid of ageing more than we care to admit
Youre awesome
Hey Bliss, love your content. I'm a fashion desing student from South Africa and I'd like to know what 'Resort' collections are actually for. Do consumers actually buy resortwear for vacations? And if so, how are they actually different from Spring/Summer or Autumn/Winter collections?
Hi! Great question! “Resort“ is kind of a nickname for Collections that are between major seasons. Originally, they were for customers that would go on big cruises or elaborate vacations during this time of year, but I don’t think that’s meant literally anymore. Those collections are usually water down versions of the main spring summer or autumn winter Collections. Often times, because the pieces in resort collections are more approachable, buyers tend to spend more money during those collections than in the main seasons. Hopefully this helps!
LMAO your big theme alert actually stopped me from reading comments and focus on the video
damn multitasking part got me
Bliss I think this is a wonderful video and I think what people are missing is all this added pressure on Martin Margiela to create something that fits their narrative of “art”. I think in iteself this “controversy” is possibly what he’d want. People stomping their feet because it isn’t some grand spectacular exhibit , even though in my eyes it is because it’s so simple. Isn’t that what getting older is about? Simplicity?
we bouta eat 😈
cool video
Love this...and you're enthusiasm for fashion!! Just a thought in regards to some of the subject matter in the exhibit: Isn't hair already dead...a waste product of the human body??... but yet society spends a fortune trying to keep it "healthy".
I need the power of fashion topic
Awesome !!!!!!
ALso there are earlier sculptures wood carvings from him right after his departure from fash... He also burned his archive of clothing & made a sculpture from the ashes I believe. xXx
You’re thinking of Helmut Lang, but yes! Crazy story with that one 💫💫
@@BlissFoster Ahhhh yes!!!! Thank you
PS Sweet hat !
Love !
Based on what you've shown of the exhibition (not having seen it myself), I'm curious about the focus on whiteness that many of the works seem to have. Whether its the graying of hair or the white residue of deodorant, alongside the framing and literal putting on a pedestal of Caucasian (read: White) hair, the exposing and concealing of whiteness seems to be pretty central to these works' preoccupations. I'd be curious to hear more about how race is thematized in the exhibition.
I don't think race was anything to do with it, if he did it with black to white hair, there wouldn't be as much of a change over the stages that's as visually impactful as blonde to grey to white. But that's just my opinion and I believe you have a valid curiousity however I am just sick and tired of people viewing art through the lense of race (coming from the experience of being a hetero-asian male at OCAD University feeled with overt "wokism" echo-chambers). He just loves the colour white lol same thing as Yohji Yamamoto loving black lol
Long time watcher, first time commenter… I LOVE fashion and have always been aggravated when talking to my hype beast friends who I feel enjoy clout and name more than history and commentary taking place. I subscribe to your patreon because you talk about fashion in a way that makes it feel so important and inspired in a way which is unparalleled to anything else I’ve ever consumed. So thank you, I don’t feel vapid or shallow learning from you in a way I sometimes struggle with feeling when consuming other sources.
As much as I love to learn and am now obsessed with margiela because of the series ( bought a tote and jeans), I can’t make myself spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on designer pieces when that’s not what I my lifestyle allows or I don’t have a deep relationship or attachment to the brand. However I want my closet to be quality and art, even down to the staples. I’d love to wear younger and quality designs with thought. What’s the mid between luxury and fast fashion?
Thanks so much for the kind words, Muryem! There’s definitely a balance. Designer stuff doesn’t have to be super expensive. Check out my video “how to find designer clothes cheap online”, that should help 😊
Thanks again for the encouragement 💫💫
@@BlissFosterThe feel of something on my body, particularly silk has been a fixation for me over the past year, but then I’m tweaking and afraid when I’m outside in the world. I’m currently obsessing over postergirl and love the mix of a shapewear feel with the interesting cuts and twang of a y2k vibe. Makes my body feel confident yet comfortable.
I shall rewatch the video and commit to doing some research! I also want to suggest looking at Josh Kercher who is a friend/designer who does bespoke tailoring and exquisite custom leather/the nicest guy you ever met in your life..if you’re ever looking to go really homegrown creative.
2:09 hallucinatory ?
It means, when you’re looking at the art, it feels like you’re dreaming 💫💫
@@BlissFoster Considering the nature of dreams, i feel like your statement is presumptive and thereby just expressed for the sake of verbose analysis
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So, the deodorant is kinda like r. mutt's fountain that wasn't really on display in 1917? Or am I overthinking?
That sounds dead on to me!
@@BlissFoster As well as anti- Dior and Chanel No 5.
mans bodied yet another long sleeve fit
Gary Graham doesn’t miss 🙌
u r so f-ing smart boi
😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
U got a better camera
Bliss foster
If you can't patreon click every add and boost the algorithm...
Thanks homie 😌
It's like past you can see my eyes drifting to the fanfiction on the other screen...from the past. *facepalm*
6:08 "The making of the thing is what is most fulfilling." Hard agree. I crochet and making the blanket is always more fun for me than actually using it.
What is it? And Why? Are my reactions to art like this. And, although I know intellectually that is exactly the quality art should have - to be challenging and questioning. For example; I do love a classic carving of a bust, a figurine the painting of the voluptuous woman, the Adonis, nudes in multiple quarters in their offering to Christ or a cherubim. To wax lyrically about the process of creating pigment, of sitting, of the realism in the art and the mastery it must take, I get. But, when I get to post modern art I have problems establishing what is and what is not good. When artists push the button politically, culturally, as soon as I recognise it I am on it. But some seem self indulgent. I am not seeing that here, I don't think (and I am mindful that I am trying to formulate an opinion based on this short video) because I sense that I am meant to be an observer and the meaning has not been defined (for references I am not familiar with his art /I will catch up with the collection of analysis on here) so I think that I have a problem. But I'm holding onto the exploration of the process; but the hair must mean something more? The hair is really symbolic. It has strong cultural ties; beauty being key. There is/is there a lot of commentary on beauty throughout his work? I feel like if I say that that is the connection then it makes the thing trite cos my reading brings it all back to the mundane. The fur covered bus shelter (bus shelters are generally undesirable; the windows are often busted/smashed, graffiti in large format black markers - nothing cool to say and smelling of urine) takes it out of context. Ok, I'll leave it here cos I've gone on more than was my intention.
But before I go I just want to say, thanks Bliss great stuff and thanks for allowing this experience.
Hair as a symbol of beauty is strong, but unfortunately I don't think Margiela has either the personal experience or level of cultural understanding to better represent that, at least based on this exhibition. Hair can be a comment on class, on gender, on race. Sure those can go cliche fast, and he's not necessarily in the position to represent those partcilar themes, but Margiela just presents hair as what, different colors? If he wanted to comment on hair and ageing, even an exhibition about the plight of ageing twinks would have been more effective. He seems too trapped visually by his surrealist and dada tendencies to actually dive deeper.
> I have problems establishing what is and what is not good
Approaching art as an experience and not something to be judged help me appreciate more of it. "Good" or "bad" is simply your experience of judging it, but you can instead ask, "What does this make me feel?" and find a lot more about your connections and what pieces mean to you.
Most modern art is a skeletal deposition from Gods holy ordinance and a logical conclusion of a centurys old manic quest towards nihilsm, atheism and final self abortion.
First of all, I am not so familiar with Martins work (YET) but I feel like this exhibition is mostly about a point of view. It is easy to place some random object with a tag and description in a room and call it a piece of art, but the difficult part is encouraging people/visitors to "dig in". Ordinary visitor without desire to understand would call this exhibition pure nonsense or a joke... but for me it is really interesting how we can look at some daily used products and change our perspective. For example hiding our true self into hair dye, while we are aging or using a big amount of deodorant during the puberty etc. I am not sure if I consider this exhibition to be groundbreaking, but it surely speaks about some crucial processes in our lives and how we can see them. In the end Martin carried out the process of "digging deeper" very well, whether it is about understanding an art concept or holding a deodorant in our hand... or standing at a bus stop while watching this amazing video. (p.s. sorry for my English)
Your English is great! These are some good points, thanks for sharing homie 💫💫
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Go Bliss go!! Love and need this content, thank you for all the effort put into this 🤍
Are you the real Martin Margiela?
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The fact that this FASHION channel is covering an ART exhibition, (granted, its margiela's) says a lot. Often times I find that art is overlooked by fashion people or not given enough credit. think about it.
so much talking about a mediocre collection of extremely boring… things. MM desperately needs fresh blood.
So, this is studio artwork by Martin Margiela, the man. These pieces have no association with Maison Margiela, the brand. I should have clarified that in the video itself, my bad. If you’d like to see some of the profoundly innovative stuff that the brand is doing now, check out my video called “A Master Course in Fashion Design: How to Make the Best Clothes” 💫💫
I'm sorry, just no.
Defend your position 🤺
@@BlissFoster I don't disagree or agree with what you are saying Bliss. I'm just not interested in this. Sorry.
@@markbailey5393 explain why tho lmao
There really isn't a single new or fresh idea here to be honest. It feels impersonal, disconnected, overly produced. When you hear the name Margiela, you expect innovation, challenging ideas, something unexpected. This was basically the opposite, dull and self-important.
And to act like it is interesting feels disingenuous, either someone who barely knows anything about art history or someone who idolizes Margiela to the point that even his shit tastes sweet.
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he should better keep making clothes. he's better at it.
Your analysis feels like explaining a joke
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