This was my first art job a week after graduating from art school. I still use some of the color matching techniques I learned in this studio. What an education.
Thanks! I agree - although as I mentioned in the video, I didn't want to go into that too much. It can over-shadow the amazing creative work that actually goes on behind the scenes.
@@alexwilliamyt Granted the old masters had people working in their studios, but the old masters still did part of the actual work, even if it was only on the central figure. I think guys like Koons are great designers, but not sure if I would call what they do being an artist.
It’s easy to be jealous of Koons. I wish it was me too. It must be noted that since the Renaissance many, if not all, major studios have used assistants to realize their artistic vision. Success and fortune are fickle. Koons work is deserving, always was, he’s the lucky one. Well done Jeff.
I’m not sure if I like Jeff Koon’s ideas of Art. It’s like a designer of an airplane but a large group of people do the building part. Or a writer has an idea for a story but 12 different people write separate chapters to the book. This video makes me appreciate the late artist Bob Ross.
There's quite a few big historic artists that did that though. They didn't want to have any part of the manufacturing process. Not a very good criticism, the internet just hates this guy for no reason
This colour matching/painting process takes every scrap of humanity and energy transference out the work. Ugh. I want to connect with the person who laid down the mark making as it flows from the subconscious to the canvas. That is a soul to soul experience, as art should be in my opinion. I know that these factory style studios were doing this as far back as the 17th century, maybe earlier, but it was the only humanly possible way to complete the commissions by the patrons. These choices Koons is making now as to process seems to be for the perceived value of the near impossible complexity of the task, as if revealing how it is made makes it somehow more unique or impressive as a final work, that he had to oversee this madness and that in itself is supposed to bedazzle, when really it has been stripped of all human expression (again, just my opinion, my taste, my thoughts).
I can understand the sentiment but Rembrandt and Bob Ross have very few similarities other than being known as "painters". Rembrandt's work would take years and years to finish one painting, and he had an army of helpers like Jeff Koons. Definitely go see a Rembrandt if you ever get the chance, its perfectionism but its appreciated perfectionism. And to paint realistically you need that
In other words Jeff does bugger all. He’s a business man, an art banker, with a production factory filled with little art slaves. Thank you for your brilliant videos.
There's this guy I watch on TH-cam who can really create realistic images because he graduated from art school, but his work has no substance. It's like watching a small child finger paint, to me. But he has a lot of TH-cam subs which equals success. Too bad someone with less opportunity couldn't take his place at a fancy art school
The process is fascinating. I like Koons a lot. The balloon dogs are great in their complex simplicity And Michael Jackson with his monkey is a masterpiece.
Absolutely, would like to see more behind the scenes creativity, particularly painters/artists like Jeff Koons. Yours is one of the best videos of this type. Thank you for all your hard work. Excellent detail!!! Thank-you!!!
Really enjoy your videos. It’s hard at times to explain our process as an artist and this is a great way to share a glimpse into what makes us as uniquely us
The metal casting for balloon dog may have been manufactured in California, but the actual prototype from which the cast was made, was done in the Soho New York studio. Thats Jeff posing on an early version, taken in the NY studio.
When DuChamp invented Modern Art, he said that he abandoned the Artists hand for the MIND. At this point the idea became the Art. Since then, relevant Artists have come up with the idea and whether they or someone else produces it doesn't matter. DuChamp, a New York transplant from Europe, invented the concept of the "ready made", a found object that he would recontextualize, creating an Art piece. His "Fountain" sculpture is a found urinal placed s a museum exhibit, recontextualized. Nothing has been the same ever since. Jeff Koons is a stated DuChampian.
As much as I want to say something regarding how his work feels, it doesn't matter. Money has and always will be a driving force behind what artists can achieve and how successful they are. They have always been entwined in business, and Koons is wildly successful because he is business minded. Art is, for those who are very wealthy, not about the feeling as much as it is about the cost and ability to display that cost in such an opulent way. He wins, and those who have a hand in their own work may sneer at that.
this is so distopic. The artist creates the artwork in small scale, and then the multiple craftsman recreate it in a tedious, micro level detail, in a huge canvas, for the Big man to call it theirs… i things this is, at least, a great analogy of the current capitalist society, we done Koons. And btw great videos, im enjoying them a lot
@@conchesodanwell, that´s the typical cliché answer to people who critize contemporary factory artists The truth is most of classic artist didnt use an army of assistants to paint, some they had a few but mainly because you had on those times to manufacture paints, priming canvases, buying stuff, arranging models but most of them except a few they painted all the paintings by themselves. Im artist and for me is a little sad to see a lot of artists becoming more a design studio rather than doing a personal art. I can understand to have assistants to help you with certain things as could be the case of Anselm Kiefer or Chuck Close when he was alive but Marilyn Minter´s case is just a woman saying to other people what to paint.
Even if I could afford it, I don't think I'd buy one of his works--that's just my opinion and taste. Really interesting look at what goes into creating his art, though. Thanks for sharing.
The strength of Koons art is that such a brilliant commentary on modern culture. Its also quite sarcastic I think and slightly futuristic. I don't think the process matters at all in his work in my opinion, its just about the intended effect of the outcome. The act itself to paint a collage created in tbe computer is a deeply sarcastic comment on the state and importance of painting. It makes the work appear even more artificial instead of just using a digital print, genius in my oinion.
Francis Bacon's Three Studies of Lucian Freud (1969) sold for $142.4 million in 2013, so old school painter-at-easel still rules. All of this began at the Renaissance with the invention of the portable framed painting (as opposed to Medieval tapestry) but the real driver was the new economy created by the Medici family who revolutionized banking, creating the art world first by creating the economy that created the collectors, the merchant princes. Now it is capitalism. In 2023, the United States added 500,000 new millionaires, more than any other country in the world, bringing the total number of millionaires in the U.S. to 7.43 million, with a combined fortune of $26.1 trillion. There are over 100 BILLIONAIRES in the "communist" Chinese politburo for crying out loud. So it's not just aristocrats doing tours of the Continent collecting art as it was for centuries. The notion of the artist as culture hero was created in the Renaissance as well; before then they were just nameless artisans no more important than plumbers. It really kicked off with Cellini's autobiography documenting his creating his Perseus bronze statue. I'll give you taste of the drama with this excerpt from Camille Paglia's fantastic SEXUAL PERSONAE: "Cellini’s bronze Perseus is forged in a Wagnerian storm of western will. The artist attacks by earth, air, water, and fire. He piles on wood, brick, iron, copper; he digs a pit; he hauls ropes. He shapes his hero out of clay and wax. He exerts superhuman energies, until he is struck down by fever. Cellini takes to bed in ritual couvade, while Perseus strains to be born. The metal curdles and must be resurrected from the dead. Finally, the shouting, cursing artist, transfigured by creative ecstasy, defeats all obstacles and brings Perseus into the world in an explosion, “a tremendous flash of flame” like a thunderbolt. Cellini has made “miracles,” triumphing by a godlike blend of male and female power. Now Perseus is placed in Florence’s public square. At its unveiling, the crowd sends up “a shout of boundless enthusiasm.” Dozens of sonnets are nailed up, panegyrics by university scholars. The Duke sits for hours hidden in a palace window, listening to citizens acclaim the statue. This thrilling episode demonstrates the potential for collectivity at certain privileged moments in history. The Renaissance made public art, uniting the social classes in a common emotion. A figure on a platform; the mingling of nobles, intellectuals, plebeians: one thinks of the broad audience of Shakespeare’s Globe Theatre. It is impossible to imagine a modern art work provoking a shout from a socially mixed crowd. Our sole equivalent is cinema, as at the Atlanta premiere of Gone with the Wind. Cellini illustrates the national differences in Renaissance form: in Italy, the objet d’art; in England, drama." How is that for high? Not quite the same as Koons' and Murakami's interns working for extra credit, is it?
As impressive as Koons's studio process is, the resulting paintings are inert and vacuous, like the paintings that hang in a hotel lobby or in a generic art gallery at the mall. I was fortunate to see Koons's Stainless Steel Bunny Rabbit when it was fresh and new and it did give me an overt visceral reaction, something tingling and sensational, and something his paintings lack. Unfortunately for the Stainless Bunny Rabbit, they are now covered with micro-scratches that ruin the illusion of a helium balloon. Apparently, there isn't a way to polish out the scratches in the stainless steel. These surface scratches result is a balloon that looks heavy, like steel. Oh well, at least we have the Play-Doh.
When Koon's was a painting student at my univeristy, my teachers who where his peers, said he spent most of his time on the one computer available checking stocks.
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Great vid, just suggest being a little more careful with the script. Noticed in the first 20 you said “at an unprecedented scale and speed, and on a massive scale” which is redundant. Don’t wanna lose people quick with errors like that esp in the first 30 sec
So much art criticism and history on here is real rubbish. This on the other hand is excellent, accurate and lacking an opionated bias. Love these vids! Thanks for posting.
In an economic sense, a work of art is only worth what Simeon is willing to pay for it. Supply and demand. It’s not a con job. He found a niche and people pay to be part of it.
From a purely business point of view he is extremely successful and smart. There is no question about that. However the real question is whether the financial reward of that business should be his or the artists/craftspeople actually making the things. Good ol' capitalism for ya!
What is that even supposed to mean? Are you familiar with Soviet and Chinese art movements? There's some good stuff, like I am a big fan of the director Tarkovsky, but it's pretty awful too no? The most famous contemporary Chinese artist, Ai Weiwei, is wanted by his country's government
@@jeffm3283 It means it's all about the money. It's also called an opinion. My opinion. And you then go any use the word 'good stuff' to describe art movements. Good for you and your opinion. FFS...
@@ZER0-- "this is capitalist art" is a terrible comment there's no need to get mad. It's always been about the money. Since before Capitalism was a thing
Well... I guess if you just want to paint. Join Jeff´s attelier... What I see in another way is that he works just like all the grand masters of the renaissance... yet people do overlook this fact. For me, as a more expressionistic type of artist, I cannot relate to this ultra-methodic process... Not my taste, not the outcomes I enjoy. Plus I do value the charm on single artists doing their best in many aspects.
I desagree with you in that the Great Masters of the Renaissance or Baroque had sometime lots of aprentices; but the Masters knew their work and could perfectly draw, paint or sculpt by themselvels.
Wait... Is this an example of how AI art works like now? But instead of AI, he used people working like machines to bring out his ideas? The so called the idea matters and not the method. Even the artist didn't paint almost nothing and left all the work to his minions... So does the same criticism about the method and yada yada applies here? Is it lazy? Is it fake? Is the idea what counts only? Should it lose value, because it was done by other people? What's the difference from this to an AI creator imputing prompts? Should the final piece have everyone who worked on the project have their signatures as well in it? Interested to see what people think about this.
The paintings are impressive from a technical standpoint, but they lack meaningful substance. I keep trying to find something in them but it's like they repel all attempts to connect or see something beyond the surface. All the same, if people want to spend massive amounts of money on them, I don't actually mind, since I'd still rather that money goes to this than to other things massively rich people could buy
There's a lot of critiques to be made about "factory" art, definitely. You should look up Koons' statue of Michael Jackson and his monkey, I forget the monkey's name, but it is what made Koons be 'annointed' in the art world. It is like someone else said, meant to be too golden and ridiculous looking, and a criticism of the art world. Sorry for leaving 50 comments to my TH-cam guy, I'll sub hah
@@jeffm3283 Also meant to say that I don't have any issue with factory production of pieces, since they still require skill on the part of the artisans, artists, and technicians. My reaction is specifically to these particular pieces from Koons' studio, and I know they're not meant for me, so in the big scheme of things, my opinion on them is not really important
This form of working is not for me..definitely not a fan of most of Koons laboured output... but I saw the giant flower puppy in Spain .... it was really impressive...
This may explain why jeff koons faked classical paintings feel dead in person… i saw a show of the classical paintings at gagosian with the blue spheres… i got no feeling from any of them
Yea i'll be honest those pieces did nothing for me either. Strange project to be honest. However, the skill, patience and effort they took to produce is amazing. Hopefully that came across in my video.
Good video, thank you. I think Koons is misunderstood by the public because art education is severely lacking. But he's not my favorite artist either by any stretch.
(disclaimer: im just here to shit on koons so if youre not here for that skip this comment) koons art is about as interesting as stepping in dogshit on a rainy day.....art studios have been around forever. Rubens had one, Titian had one, Michelangelo had one, to name a few. the difference is, in the past, assistants did the drudgework (mixed paint, mixed plaster etc, and the "names" did the fine work. when he's dead (which can't happen soon enough for my liking) who is going to remember "New Hoover Convertibles, Green, Blue"? nobody, because it's junk, like everything else he "makes".
so basically , KOONS wouldn't be an ''artist'' if real artists didnt work for him . i sometimes feel guilty just when i get inspired by someones art , let alone having someone make the art and i would just sign it ! pathetic .
I know stuff like that happens a lot and has happened a lot in the history of art, but I personally don't respect it at all. Its completely unromantic and while the frauds of the world, sry Koons of the world, care more about money than art, Yayoi Kusama has a team of assistants working to make her paint MORE.
Re: Recreating Classical Art.. WHYYYYYYY?!?!? Why?! Ohhh man, I HATEEEEEE ITTTTTTTT! Its just such a waste of time and skill. Its not cool; its nothing, just bullshit. There is no point to it. It doesn't make the world a better place. Its just plagurism of the highest order and the dude kicks back, rolling in money from rich simps that laud his "genius". Sooooo grosssssss! There is no Dadaisim to it, discussing it doesn't provide anymore depth or context. Its like a spoiled bratt with the worst idea in the world getting what ever he wants.. 🤮
so much needless complexity to the painting process only for the purpose of making them seem more valuable, while adding nothing to the piece. it's a con like so many others. have you noticed how much of the abstract/concept art looks the same? i'm all for taking money from rich idiots who buy these but let's be real, that's all this is for. zombie formalism crashed because it was too clear about what it's doing.
I dont use the word often (or lightly) but I HATE this guy and his "art" more than words can say... Thanks for making this video, its good to be reminded🤮
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I worked for Koons for almost a decade. It became one of the most neurotic working environments I have ever experienced.
Please explain. I would love to hear it. Thankyou
This was my first art job a week after graduating from art school. I still use some of the color matching techniques I learned in this studio. What an education.
Awesome!
@@alexwilliamytI was honored to have had the pleasure to work & live on Rosenquest Stuido in FL
Cool. I worked with Leroy Neiman in the '80s. People make fun of his style, his commercialization, but he was very good technically, and a nice guy.
What job did you move on too?
That's cool
Like the old Apprentice system in Italy
Enjoy your videos, but Koons is a prime example of the NY Art Market Con Job
Thanks! I agree - although as I mentioned in the video, I didn't want to go into that too much. It can over-shadow the amazing creative work that actually goes on behind the scenes.
@@alexwilliamyt Granted the old masters had people working in their studios, but the old masters still did part of the actual work, even if it was only on the central figure. I think guys like Koons are great designers, but not sure if I would call what they do being an artist.
@@douglasriddle6447 the role of the artist changes in tandem with technology
It’s easy to be jealous of Koons. I wish it was me too. It must be noted that since the Renaissance many, if not all, major studios have used assistants to realize their artistic vision. Success and fortune are fickle. Koons work is deserving, always was, he’s the lucky one. Well done Jeff.
@@robertpepper5256 Koons produces kitsch, which again is part of the "Art Market Con Job. The fact that he has a staff is not the issue.
I’m not sure if I like Jeff Koon’s ideas of Art. It’s like a designer of an airplane but a large group of people do the building part. Or a writer has an idea for a story but 12 different people write separate chapters to the book. This video makes me appreciate the late artist Bob Ross.
Ditto 😂
There's quite a few big historic artists that did that though. They didn't want to have any part of the manufacturing process. Not a very good criticism, the internet just hates this guy for no reason
People who call out people on their BS are now called "haters"...
... or trolls.
This colour matching/painting process takes every scrap of humanity and energy transference out the work. Ugh. I want to connect with the person who laid down the mark making as it flows from the subconscious to the canvas. That is a soul to soul experience, as art should be in my opinion. I know that these factory style studios were doing this as far back as the 17th century, maybe earlier, but it was the only humanly possible way to complete the commissions by the patrons. These choices Koons is making now as to process seems to be for the perceived value of the near impossible complexity of the task, as if revealing how it is made makes it somehow more unique or impressive as a final work, that he had to oversee this madness and that in itself is supposed to bedazzle, when really it has been stripped of all human expression (again, just my opinion, my taste, my thoughts).
Yes back in 15th century Italy artists studios
I can understand the sentiment but Rembrandt and Bob Ross have very few similarities other than being known as "painters". Rembrandt's work would take years and years to finish one painting, and he had an army of helpers like Jeff Koons. Definitely go see a Rembrandt if you ever get the chance, its perfectionism but its appreciated perfectionism. And to paint realistically you need that
Might as well do them digitally.
In other words Jeff does bugger all. He’s a business man, an art banker, with a production factory filled with little art slaves.
Thank you for your brilliant videos.
Complete the circle Koons- claim your business a cooperative and divided the wealth and value (you extract). He’s an extractionist.
As an artist, I really enjoyed your video with in depth details of Jeff Koons manufacturing process.
Prior to this I had no idea of just how much effort went into one of Jeff Koons' pieces.
😂
Some "Artists" are just brands nowadays
There's this guy I watch on TH-cam who can really create realistic images because he graduated from art school, but his work has no substance. It's like watching a small child finger paint, to me. But he has a lot of TH-cam subs which equals success. Too bad someone with less opportunity couldn't take his place at a fancy art school
The process is fascinating. I like Koons a lot. The balloon dogs are great in their complex simplicity And Michael Jackson with his monkey is a masterpiece.
Is this art or business!!! An artist should paint by himself!!
Art history is rife with artists who've used assistants. For instance, Peter Paul Rubens. The myth of the genius loner was perpetuated by Van Gogh.
Most of Renaissance most famous works are commissioned tho. Are Mona Lisa not art because it was commissioned by someone
You have no idea
Absolutely, would like to see more behind the scenes creativity, particularly painters/artists like Jeff Koons. Yours is one of the best videos of this type. Thank you for all your hard work. Excellent detail!!! Thank-you!!!
Thank you! More to come!
It’s incredible that there’s people that thinks that this is art, or that Koons is the artist.
pot calling the kettle black. the art understander is telling us what art is everyone listen
Really enjoy your videos. It’s hard at times to explain our process as an artist and this is a great way to share a glimpse into what makes us as uniquely us
The metal casting for balloon dog may have been manufactured in California, but the actual prototype from which the cast was made, was done in the Soho New York studio. Thats Jeff posing on an early version, taken in the NY studio.
Interesting, thanks for the info!
When DuChamp invented Modern Art, he said that he abandoned the Artists hand for the MIND. At this point the idea became the Art. Since then, relevant Artists have come up with the idea and whether they or someone else produces it doesn't matter. DuChamp, a New York transplant from Europe, invented the concept of the "ready made", a found object that he would recontextualize, creating an Art piece. His "Fountain" sculpture is a found urinal placed s a museum exhibit, recontextualized. Nothing has been the same ever since. Jeff Koons is a stated DuChampian.
This is a really interesting topic and a very good video!
Thanks!
As much as I want to say something regarding how his work feels, it doesn't matter. Money has and always will be a driving force behind what artists can achieve and how successful they are. They have always been entwined in business, and Koons is wildly successful because he is business minded. Art is, for those who are very wealthy, not about the feeling as much as it is about the cost and ability to display that cost in such an opulent way.
He wins, and those who have a hand in their own work may sneer at that.
this is so distopic. The artist creates the artwork in small scale, and then the multiple craftsman recreate it in a tedious, micro level detail, in a huge canvas, for the Big man to call it theirs… i things this is, at least, a great analogy of the current capitalist society, we done Koons.
And btw great videos, im enjoying them a lot
well... I guess you don´t like Renaissance master´s either based on what you said here.
@@conchesodanwell, that´s the typical cliché answer to people who critize contemporary factory artists The truth is most of classic artist didnt use an army of assistants to paint, some they had a few but mainly because you had on those times to manufacture paints, priming canvases, buying stuff, arranging models but most of them except a few they painted all the paintings by themselves. Im artist and for me is a little sad to see a lot of artists becoming more a design studio rather than doing a personal art. I can understand to have assistants to help you with certain things as could be the case of Anselm Kiefer or Chuck Close when he was alive but Marilyn Minter´s case is just a woman saying to other people what to paint.
Yeah its more about creating a personality as an artist and knowing rich people. And money laundering
Even if I could afford it, I don't think I'd buy one of his works--that's just my opinion and taste. Really interesting look at what goes into creating his art, though. Thanks for sharing.
This is awesome!
He pays them $14 an hour. Terrible.
The strength of Koons art is that such a brilliant commentary on modern culture. Its also quite sarcastic I think and slightly futuristic. I don't think the process matters at all in his work in my opinion, its just about the intended effect of the outcome. The act itself to paint a collage created in tbe computer is a deeply sarcastic comment on the state and importance of painting. It makes the work appear even more artificial instead of just using a digital print, genius in my oinion.
Francis Bacon's Three Studies of Lucian Freud (1969) sold for $142.4 million in 2013, so old school painter-at-easel still rules. All of this began at the Renaissance with the invention of the portable framed painting (as opposed to Medieval tapestry) but the real driver was the new economy created by the Medici family who revolutionized banking, creating the art world first by creating the economy that created the collectors, the merchant princes. Now it is capitalism. In 2023, the United States added 500,000 new millionaires, more than any other country in the world, bringing the total number of millionaires in the U.S. to 7.43 million, with a combined fortune of $26.1 trillion. There are over 100 BILLIONAIRES in the "communist" Chinese politburo for crying out loud. So it's not just aristocrats doing tours of the Continent collecting art as it was for centuries. The notion of the artist as culture hero was created in the Renaissance as well; before then they were just nameless artisans no more important than plumbers. It really kicked off with Cellini's autobiography documenting his creating his Perseus bronze statue. I'll give you taste of the drama with this excerpt from Camille Paglia's fantastic SEXUAL PERSONAE:
"Cellini’s bronze Perseus is forged in a Wagnerian storm of western will. The artist attacks by earth, air, water, and fire. He
piles on wood, brick, iron, copper; he digs a pit; he hauls ropes. He shapes his hero out of clay and wax. He exerts superhuman energies, until he is struck down by fever. Cellini takes to bed in ritual couvade, while Perseus strains to be born. The metal curdles and must be resurrected from the dead. Finally, the shouting, cursing artist, transfigured by creative ecstasy, defeats
all obstacles and brings Perseus into the world in an explosion, “a tremendous flash of flame” like a thunderbolt. Cellini has made “miracles,” triumphing by a godlike blend of male and female power.
Now Perseus is placed in Florence’s public square. At its unveiling, the crowd sends up “a shout of boundless enthusiasm.” Dozens of sonnets are nailed up, panegyrics by university scholars. The Duke sits for hours hidden in a palace window, listening to citizens acclaim the statue. This thrilling episode demonstrates the potential for collectivity at certain privileged moments in history. The Renaissance made public art, uniting the social classes in a common emotion. A figure on a platform; the mingling of nobles, intellectuals, plebeians: one thinks of the broad audience of Shakespeare’s Globe Theatre. It is impossible to imagine a modern art work provoking a shout from a socially mixed crowd. Our sole equivalent is
cinema, as at the Atlanta premiere of Gone with the Wind. Cellini illustrates the national differences in Renaissance form: in Italy, the objet d’art; in England, drama."
How is that for high? Not quite the same as Koons' and Murakami's interns working for extra credit, is it?
I love these videos so much, these deep dives make me think how the act of creating can be so involved an thought out! Thank you for making this!
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As impressive as Koons's studio process is, the resulting paintings are inert and vacuous, like the paintings that hang in a hotel lobby or in a generic art gallery at the mall. I was fortunate to see Koons's Stainless Steel Bunny Rabbit when it was fresh and new and it did give me an overt visceral reaction, something tingling and sensational, and something his paintings lack. Unfortunately for the Stainless Bunny Rabbit, they are now covered with micro-scratches that ruin the illusion of a helium balloon. Apparently, there isn't a way to polish out the scratches in the stainless steel. These surface scratches result is a balloon that looks heavy, like steel. Oh well, at least we have the Play-Doh.
Souless, I hate it. Insulting to art and artists.
So why does Jeff get all the credit when a team built the artwork?
When Koon's was a painting student at my univeristy, my teachers who where his peers, said he spent most of his time on the one computer available checking stocks.
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Great vid, just suggest being a little more careful with the script. Noticed in the first 20 you said “at an unprecedented scale and speed, and on a massive scale” which is redundant. Don’t wanna lose people quick with errors like that esp in the first 30 sec
So much art criticism and history on here is real rubbish. This on the other hand is excellent, accurate and lacking an opionated bias. Love these vids! Thanks for posting.
Much appreciated, thank you!
Loved it - thanks. :)
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Why the low number? To keep the prices higher.
In an economic sense, a work of art is only worth what Simeon is willing to pay for it. Supply and demand. It’s not a con job. He found a niche and people pay to be part of it.
I have a new appreciation of Koons. It’s smart business.
From a purely business point of view he is extremely successful and smart. There is no question about that. However the real question is whether the financial reward of that business should be his or the artists/craftspeople actually making the things. Good ol' capitalism for ya!
1:50 what about Basquiat skull ?
He's quoting the highest prices at auction for artworks by a "living artist."
Can deone explain how this is art, I struggle
This "art" just got famous in one of the right cities.The level of fame is the only reason it's worth so much money to investors
I'm curious what these artists make...
Will Jeff Koon's children work for him as indentured slaves or keep themselves independent and free people.
This is capitalist art imho.
What is that even supposed to mean? Are you familiar with Soviet and Chinese art movements? There's some good stuff, like I am a big fan of the director Tarkovsky, but it's pretty awful too no? The most famous contemporary Chinese artist, Ai Weiwei, is wanted by his country's government
@@jeffm3283 It means it's all about the money. It's also called an opinion. My opinion. And you then go any use the word 'good stuff' to describe art movements. Good for you and your opinion. FFS...
@@ZER0-- "this is capitalist art" is a terrible comment there's no need to get mad. It's always been about the money. Since before Capitalism was a thing
Tip: try manage not wearing headphones on camera.
Well... I guess if you just want to paint. Join Jeff´s attelier... What I see in another way is that he works just like all the grand masters of the renaissance... yet people do overlook this fact. For me, as a more expressionistic type of artist, I cannot relate to this ultra-methodic process... Not my taste, not the outcomes I enjoy. Plus I do value the charm on single artists doing their best in many aspects.
I desagree with you in that the Great Masters of the Renaissance or Baroque had sometime lots of aprentices; but the Masters knew their work and could perfectly draw, paint or sculpt by themselvels.
Wait... Is this an example of how AI art works like now? But instead of AI, he used people working like machines to bring out his ideas? The so called the idea matters and not the method.
Even the artist didn't paint almost nothing and left all the work to his minions...
So does the same criticism about the method and yada yada applies here?
Is it lazy? Is it fake? Is the idea what counts only? Should it lose value, because it was done by other people? What's the difference from this to an AI creator imputing prompts?
Should the final piece have everyone who worked on the project have their signatures as well in it?
Interested to see what people think about this.
The paintings are impressive from a technical standpoint, but they lack meaningful substance. I keep trying to find something in them but it's like they repel all attempts to connect or see something beyond the surface. All the same, if people want to spend massive amounts of money on them, I don't actually mind, since I'd still rather that money goes to this than to other things massively rich people could buy
There's a lot of critiques to be made about "factory" art, definitely. You should look up Koons' statue of Michael Jackson and his monkey, I forget the monkey's name, but it is what made Koons be 'annointed' in the art world. It is like someone else said, meant to be too golden and ridiculous looking, and a criticism of the art world. Sorry for leaving 50 comments to my TH-cam guy, I'll sub hah
@@jeffm3283 I'll look it up, thanks for the rec
@@jeffm3283 Also meant to say that I don't have any issue with factory production of pieces, since they still require skill on the part of the artisans, artists, and technicians. My reaction is specifically to these particular pieces from Koons' studio, and I know they're not meant for me, so in the big scheme of things, my opinion on them is not really important
This form of working is not for me..definitely not a fan of most of Koons laboured output... but I saw the giant flower puppy in Spain .... it was really impressive...
And his aestetic sucks. But the video was interesting.
A complete waste of time and effort for the results of such indifferent ideas for what? Some art world cod philosophy?
Hope those artists doing all the work and getting no credit are at least getting paid well.
This may explain why jeff koons faked classical paintings feel dead in person… i saw a show of the classical paintings at gagosian with the blue spheres… i got no feeling from any of them
Yea i'll be honest those pieces did nothing for me either. Strange project to be honest. However, the skill, patience and effort they took to produce is amazing. Hopefully that came across in my video.
Jeff Koons reminds me of Pee Wee Herman.
Oh Koons…the ultimate grifter
Good video, thank you. I think Koons is misunderstood by the public because art education is severely lacking. But he's not my favorite artist either by any stretch.
If others help, then it's not an original artwork.
(disclaimer: im just here to shit on koons so if youre not here for that skip this comment)
koons art is about as interesting as stepping in dogshit on a rainy day.....art studios have been around forever. Rubens had one, Titian had one, Michelangelo had one, to name a few. the difference is, in the past, assistants did the drudgework (mixed paint, mixed plaster etc, and the "names" did the fine work. when he's dead (which can't happen soon enough for my liking) who is going to remember "New Hoover Convertibles, Green, Blue"? nobody, because it's junk, like everything else he "makes".
Jeff Koons is not an artist.
so basically , KOONS wouldn't be an ''artist'' if real artists didnt work for him . i sometimes feel guilty just when i get inspired by someones art , let alone having someone make the art and i would just sign it ! pathetic .
I know stuff like that happens a lot and has happened a lot in the history of art, but I personally don't respect it at all. Its completely unromantic and while the frauds of the world, sry Koons of the world, care more about money than art, Yayoi Kusama has a team of assistants working to make her paint MORE.
Yes good point about Kusama!
@@alexwilliamyt ye buddy, I checked ur channel afterwards and I actually learned that little fun fact on your Kusama video, so... thanks :)
Oh... I got even more uninterested in koons...
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Re: Recreating Classical Art.. WHYYYYYYY?!?!? Why?! Ohhh man, I HATEEEEEE ITTTTTTTT! Its just such a waste of time and skill. Its not cool; its nothing, just bullshit. There is no point to it. It doesn't make the world a better place. Its just plagurism of the highest order and the dude kicks back, rolling in money from rich simps that laud his "genius". Sooooo grosssssss! There is no Dadaisim to it, discussing it doesn't provide anymore depth or context. Its like a spoiled bratt with the worst idea in the world getting what ever he wants.. 🤮
so much needless complexity to the painting process only for the purpose of making them seem more valuable, while adding nothing to the piece. it's a con like so many others. have you noticed how much of the abstract/concept art looks the same? i'm all for taking money from rich idiots who buy these but let's be real, that's all this is for. zombie formalism crashed because it was too clear about what it's doing.
Shitty commercial art))
thanks for 'destroying' jeff koons for me.
I dont use the word often (or lightly) but I HATE this guy and his "art" more than words can say... Thanks for making this video, its good to be reminded🤮
Haha, all the work and money just to be able to pretend to be an artist.
He wouldn’t have a problem with D. Trump’s color, just orange & brown 🍊💩
lol the art world is so dumb