The first thing I noticed watching you paint those wheels was the systematic applications. I started out in the Painting trade when I was 16 yrs old. (81 now) and I had a lot of mentors over the years and each one had his own idea's on how to do something. I remember on old guy I worked for B.G. Casey, I worked for him for couple years. before he passed. and I can remember him coming up behind me and tap me on the shoulder when I was painting a door. and he said "you know! its in the Painters Bible! "Edges First" my boy!" and just kept on walking by. Yep the little nuances of life's lessons. you sir! have a multitude of them Bless you for sharing them with us. God Speed. ECF.
There is watching paint dry and then there is watching paint dry from a master. This was a master class in skill, process, patience and excellence. Fabulous result.
I have come to believe that the "secret" of success in any trade is no more in the skill of the craftsman than it is in his self-discipline, at least when and where it matters. Those who are this good in one trade tend to do well at anything else, and in your case, Dave, the proof is in the pudding, as they say. You then combine that discipline with years of wisdom so that you know what battles are worth fighting and which ones are not. As you probably realize, what you are sharing with us is not only your techniques, but also the philosophy behind them, and I believe that is the gold mine that makes your video series so forever valuable. Thank you for letting us into your paint booth!
Three years ago I planned a cross country trip on my motor cycle. I wanted to stop to visit. Three weeks before I was to leave I had a stroke. That stopped my whole life. Thank You so much for bringing this to me❤❤💔💔💔💔
Veramente un capolavoro di realizzazione la verniciatura e venuta sicuramente sorprende certo come dicevi la mano è tutto il movimento costante è molto importante auguri per la tua prossima realizzazione 👍👍👍
Dave, I just wanted to take a moment to tell you how much you have inspired me by watching most, if not all, your videos starting with the Borax wagons ! You are a truly gifted man and I wish you and your wife Diane, God's Blessings !! Onwards and Upwards !!🙏
I too had a stroke in the late 70’s. Lost peripheral vision left side and balance. My life was sidetracked as well. I found other things to focus on and found auto painting. This video brings back so many memories and challenges. Best of life to you sir. Thank you.
Well Dave, I'll level with you. I am 73 years old and spent several years working in professional body shops. I watch these TH-cam videos of "experts" spray painting and turn their gun way down barely blowing out a paint that almost dries in the air before it hits the target all the while shouting to the top of their lungs; "Always use light coats!!" I just cringe. You my friend, paint like a badass! You paint utterly without fear. You paint EXACTLY like I do. Not that I am God or anything like that, but it was just like I was watching myself paint. You put the first coat on like it was the second coat. But it gave the paint enough wetness to weld itself to the wheel and enough volume to let the paint flow which equates a nice thick shiny protective coat. The second coat went on long before the first was dry and then fused to the first coat and both became one. But, this is life on the edge, inviting runs and sags. But you calculated the firmness perfectly. Painting is kind of like welding and I think that helped you here. Five stars Brother Dave - 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟+🌟 Art & Melissa from Ohio
Thank you for the effort to record the painting. Brought back some memories for me, the retailer that I did maintenance for speced out chromatic paint for the metal man doors (102L fire red). We painted with brush & roller, I used a 3/16 nap mohair roller and added Penetrol to get it to flow, lay down, and get rid of brush strokes. The paint job lasted forever and didn't fade. The spec changed at some point, probably because of lead in the paint, and nothing else we tried ever worked as well.
I learned a long time ago that, "a good paint job can hide bad woodworking, and a bad paint job can ruin the look of excellent woodworking". Great to see excellence in both aspects here.
I love that, no matter what you are doing, you strive for that above and beyond quality. Thanks for inviting us in the paint booth. (They look amazing BTW)
I owned and worked in automotive and truck restoration shops for close to 40 years. I've probably painted around 30 sets of artillery and wood spoke wheels. It was nice to see you did it exactly as did for all those years. I also used 1 shot paint on all the wood, including truck beds, an old sign painter taught me that. Beautiful work!
I've spent 30 years and counting in an autobody shop and spent some time painting industrial equipment too. I have never painted a wagon wheel, but your method is exactly how I would have approached it. I was even counting along as you were spraying. Lol! The only thing that surprised me was that you sprayed the outside first. Maybe you can get away with that with the slower drying paint. With fast drying automotive paint you would be risking some dry spots. A "professional" is simply someone paid to do a job. It doesn't mean they are any good. And this seems to be especially apparent in the paint spraying department. Thanks for another great video.😢
The number of different skills you excel in never ceases to amaze me. Wood working, metal working, upholstering, sewing, painting, cattle farming, building barns and infrastructure to name a few. And when the Jeep project comes up, I'm pretty sure we viewers will be surprised with many more. Congratulations for your superb craftsmanship and thank you for the great content as always.
Ahh, that masking tape peel was so satisfying! I've painted automotive steel wheels many times, but never thought to mask up like that... Quite agree about automotive paints on wood, they just don't work. Anybody who says 'paint is paint' is heading for a disaster.
I was dumbfounded. I thought you were putting a lot of paint on for the tack coat. And I was wrong. I knew you knew what you were doing, but I don't put that much on for the first spray. I'll come back. But I am not doing wagon wheels. I always enjoy watching you. And enjoy your gentle laid back delivery. Thank you for all you do.
You have an excellent system. It shows in the finished product. A very interesting comment about the use of automotive paint. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
17 years ago I had a bleeding ulcer nearly take me out. I have nerve damage from lack of blood flow to my arms and legs and developed benign essential tremors. I have to brace my wrists against something if I need to do something that requires a steady hand. That ended up making a lot of things I used to do almost impossible. I envy your steady hands because I wouldn't be able to paint with a sprayer now without having runs and drips because of how much my hand shakes.
Thanks for the tip on One Shot paint. I don't use paints often, as I build 18th century furniture with clear finishes, but when I do, I worry about the seasonal dimensional changes in the wood, causing cracking and peeling. I will definitely be trying this product. I love the light/heavy coat approach, similar to how I do it, except I must use multiple coats to accommodate polishing out the finishes. I also note there is almost zero overspray, amazing. I learn something every time.
I was a painter and wood finisher for a number of years and was trained by a couple older painters. When working on a double hung window with multiple panes (9 over 9 or 6 over 6) it was impressed on me that repetition was the key to a good finish, especially on a clear finish. I immediately recognized you were using the same method with the wheels and it sure worked well.
Thanks for that. I doubt I'll ever paint a carriage again, but yeah, I had trouble with runs in exactly the places you pointed out. I also wondered about the automotive paints that were so popular back in the eighties. I love maroon on wheels. I've always thought that black with maroon wheels was a really classy look.
You made them purdy! My daughter came by to see what I was doing, OH dad you watching paint dry, no watching the wheels get ready to go to work. They are going to look beautiful in you museum.
Amazing. He makes a skill look easy when in fact it is very difficult. Getting the right mix of paints, the smooth flowing strokes, the detailed attention, he is a master. Excellent job.
I love the sound of masking tape in the morning 😊 It just hit me, for a lark, add a Schrader valve to the back side of the fellows on one of the rubber tires, see if anyone notices or tries to add air 😅
That was some great information on your painting techniques and products you use to get your fantastic paint jobs completed. More of your historical in the videos you share with everyone. Excellent job Dave, stay safe and keep your lessons going in the books. Fred.
Can you imagine, craftsman back in the day used to hand paint these without a single run or drip, and even getting a glass finish with just a horse hair brush. How they did it, I'll never know but I gotta admire their skill. They were a breed of their own back then.
a simple video that explains your entire ethos Dave, straightforward approach that aims only at the top and always achieves it. you are a master of your trade and should be recognised for this/ perfection is the only goal and you hit it everytime in everything you do. if future generations have half of what you strive for we would be in a much better place.
I can certainly tell this was not your first rodeo on painting wheels. The results speak for themselves !!! Anyone that can have such a finish and make it look easy, is way above my pay grade !!! Excellent job !!!
Nice to see old school suction guns in use,,all that was around 35 yrs ago when i started my training,,i see you spray with a closed fan,i also hear and see your gun spitting,,think its time for a gravity fed gun,,.much more controllable and better finish,,more efficiency as well less paint used,also a lot easier to clean😉 Ps you can use a 2k solid auto paint,,just put some flex additive into it..ive used a lot over the years on fiberglass products..it never cracks
Dear Mr. Engels, Thank you for your advice on painting. I have a lot of experience in woodworking, I once had an expensive furniture company. So my experience was only with the wood that will be in the house. I have learned from you that the easiest way to protect wood that will be used outdoors is to apply the first coat of a very diluted paint or varnish to protect the wood from weathering. And it really works! :)
Really amazing all the background info. Who will carry on this mad knowledge? Quite a top notch job. As usual. I thought the sign painting was giving away secrets! lol this tells all... respect. very useful to any looking for such info.
I think the top design of the gun looks more like a DeVilbiss model or a knockoff unit. Binks had a different area at the hook point if memory serves me correctly. However, a real painter can shoot with any type of gun!
The advantage of using a brush, you avoid any run. But it takes very very long. My dad taught me how to paint with a brush when I was a mere teen, I can do a good enough job; I never managed to spray paint properly. Nice work Dave.
Thanks for the painting lesson! It is interesting that you don't use automotive paint. Your explanation makes total sense, I just never thought about it I will remember this for my future projects!
Very good system. I really enjoyed watching you. I only do brushpainting, starting with complete spokes first as paint behaves totally different out of the brush.
Thank you so much for allowing us to join you into the hallowed paint room, it's an honor.
The first thing I noticed watching you paint those wheels was the systematic applications. I started out in the Painting trade when I was 16 yrs old. (81 now) and I had a lot of mentors over the years and each one had his own idea's on how to do something. I remember on old guy I worked for B.G. Casey, I worked for him for couple years. before he passed. and I can remember him coming up behind me and tap me on the shoulder when I was painting a door. and he said "you know! its in the Painters Bible! "Edges First" my boy!" and just kept on walking by. Yep the little nuances of life's lessons. you sir! have a multitude of them Bless you for sharing them with us. God Speed. ECF.
There is watching paint dry and then there is watching paint dry from a master. This was a master class in skill, process, patience and excellence. Fabulous result.
I have come to believe that the "secret" of success in any trade is no more in the skill of the craftsman than it is in his self-discipline, at least when and where it matters. Those who are this good in one trade tend to do well at anything else, and in your case, Dave, the proof is in the pudding, as they say. You then combine that discipline with years of wisdom so that you know what battles are worth fighting and which ones are not. As you probably realize, what you are sharing with us is not only your techniques, but also the philosophy behind them, and I believe that is the gold mine that makes your video series so forever valuable. Thank you for letting us into your paint booth!
I was counting spokes when you were painting as well. 😂. The flow or reflection looked great as well. Thank you for sharing.
Three years ago I planned a cross country trip on my motor cycle. I wanted to stop to visit. Three weeks before I was to leave I had a stroke. That stopped my whole life. Thank You so much for bringing this to me❤❤💔💔💔💔
Veramente un capolavoro di realizzazione la verniciatura e venuta sicuramente sorprende certo come dicevi la mano è tutto il movimento costante è molto importante auguri per la tua prossima realizzazione 👍👍👍
@@giuseppearditi7963 I wish I could read your language??🙃
Dave, I just wanted to take a moment to tell you how much you have inspired me by watching most, if not all, your videos starting with the Borax wagons !
You are a truly gifted man and I wish you and your wife Diane, God's Blessings !! Onwards and Upwards !!🙏
I too had a stroke in the late 70’s. Lost peripheral vision left side and balance. My life was sidetracked as well. I found other things to focus on and found auto painting. This video brings back so many memories and challenges. Best of life to you sir. Thank you.
@dennisrider3609 the worst part is after it all happened my 2 sons haven't talked to me and I haven't seen my since. It's been alone 4yrs
Well Dave, I'll level with you. I am 73 years old and spent several years working in professional body shops. I watch these TH-cam videos of "experts" spray painting and turn their gun way down barely blowing out a paint that almost dries in the air before it hits the target all the while shouting to the top of their lungs; "Always use light coats!!" I just cringe.
You my friend, paint like a badass! You paint utterly without fear. You paint EXACTLY like I do. Not that I am God or anything like that, but it was just like I was watching myself paint.
You put the first coat on like it was the second coat. But it gave the paint enough wetness to weld itself to the wheel and enough volume to let the paint flow which equates a nice thick shiny protective coat. The second coat went on long before the first was dry and then fused to the first coat and both became one. But, this is life on the edge, inviting runs and sags. But you calculated the firmness perfectly. Painting is kind of like welding and I think that helped you here.
Five stars Brother Dave - 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟+🌟
Art & Melissa from Ohio
Thank you.
Thank you for the effort to record the painting. Brought back some memories for me, the retailer that I did maintenance for speced out chromatic paint for the metal man doors (102L fire red). We painted with brush & roller, I used a 3/16 nap mohair roller and added Penetrol to get it to flow, lay down, and get rid of brush strokes. The paint job lasted forever and didn't fade. The spec changed at some point, probably because of lead in the paint, and nothing else we tried ever worked as well.
A lovely colour Dave and thank you for sharing. Great technique and I found I was counting spokes as well.
Thanks for sharing Dave! I always enjoy watching a master craftsman at work!!
Thank you for all the tips and instruction. I will try that brand of paint. I am sure my next round of bird houses will look a whole lot better.
Great paint video. Looks great on wood wheels.
Lovely to watch. I brush painted a bicycle frame with 1-shot, it's fantastic paint, no-one can believe it's brushed and it has lasted really well.
A true artisan at work, and a beautiful color of red.
Those are just beautiful!
I learned a long time ago that, "a good paint job can hide bad woodworking, and a bad paint job can ruin the look of excellent woodworking". Great to see excellence in both aspects here.
I love that, no matter what you are doing, you strive for that above and beyond quality. Thanks for inviting us in the paint booth. (They look amazing BTW)
What beautiful looking wheels! Patience and careful prep; lessons we all can learn. Thanks Dave
Very interesting. I had 4 questions, and you addressed each in your final commentary.
I owned and worked in automotive and truck restoration shops for close to 40 years. I've probably painted around 30 sets of artillery and wood spoke wheels. It was nice to see you did it exactly as did for all those years. I also used 1 shot paint on all the wood, including truck beds, an old sign painter taught me that. Beautiful work!
I've spent 30 years and counting in an autobody shop and spent some time painting industrial equipment too. I have never painted a wagon wheel, but your method is exactly how I would have approached it. I was even counting along as you were spraying. Lol! The only thing that surprised me was that you sprayed the outside first. Maybe you can get away with that with the slower drying paint. With fast drying automotive paint you would be risking some dry spots. A "professional" is simply someone paid to do a job. It doesn't mean they are any good. And this seems to be especially apparent in the paint spraying department. Thanks for another great video.😢
Oh No!!!! We know your secret proprietary process!!! I guess we will have to sign a waver. Lol! Awesome job. You’re a true artist. Thanks!
Always a learninng moment when tuning into Engels Coach Shop. Thanks for inviting me into the paint booth. God Bless you and Mrs. Engels.
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The number of different skills you excel in never ceases to amaze me. Wood working, metal working, upholstering, sewing, painting, cattle farming, building barns and infrastructure to name a few. And when the Jeep project comes up, I'm pretty sure we viewers will be surprised with many more. Congratulations for your superb craftsmanship and thank you for the great content as always.
And story telling and welding and blacksmithing.
Ahh, that masking tape peel was so satisfying! I've painted automotive steel wheels many times, but never thought to mask up like that... Quite agree about automotive paints on wood, they just don't work. Anybody who says 'paint is paint' is heading for a disaster.
I was dumbfounded. I thought you were putting a lot of paint on for the tack coat. And I was wrong. I knew you knew what you were doing, but I don't put that much on for the first spray. I'll come back. But I am not doing wagon wheels. I always enjoy watching you. And enjoy your gentle laid back delivery. Thank you for all you do.
I have never painted a wheel, but I learned some things!
You have an excellent system. It shows in the finished product. A very interesting comment about the use of automotive paint. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
Beautiful work
17 years ago I had a bleeding ulcer nearly take me out. I have nerve damage from lack of blood flow to my arms and legs and developed benign essential tremors. I have to brace my wrists against something if I need to do something that requires a steady hand. That ended up making a lot of things I used to do almost impossible. I envy your steady hands because I wouldn't be able to paint with a sprayer now without having runs and drips because of how much my hand shakes.
the song of the masking tape is the illustration of the precision of your work. all those who have already posed it have appreciated
Thank you for teaching us your painting. It looks great.
Thanks for the tip on One Shot paint. I don't use paints often, as I build 18th century furniture with clear finishes, but when I do, I worry about the seasonal dimensional changes in the wood, causing cracking and peeling. I will definitely be trying this product.
I love the light/heavy coat approach, similar to how I do it, except I must use multiple coats to accommodate polishing out the finishes. I also note there is almost zero overspray, amazing.
I learn something every time.
Thanks Dave for sharing! Your work is, as always, top notch. I love the rich deep red.
Nice work Dave, and what a beautiful color!
Beautiful job.No one gets a finish that nice without a lot of planning,practice and diligence.
I was a painter and wood finisher for a number of years and was trained by a couple older painters. When working on a double hung window with multiple panes (9 over 9 or 6 over 6) it was impressed on me that repetition was the key to a good finish, especially on a clear finish. I immediately recognized you were using the same method with the wheels and it sure worked well.
Wheels came out beautiful! Thanks for sharing your process with us!
Beautiful finish. My most rewarding thing is pealing the tape and seeing the crisp ,finished lines.
Thanks for that. I doubt I'll ever paint a carriage again, but yeah, I had trouble with runs in exactly the places you pointed out. I also wondered about the automotive paints that were so popular back in the eighties. I love maroon on wheels. I've always thought that black with maroon wheels was a really classy look.
Dave,
Thank you for sharing your years of experience with us. I find it very interesting, to say the least. Thank you.
Thank you for your time.
You rock.
You made them purdy! My daughter came by to see what I was doing, OH dad you watching paint dry, no watching the wheels get ready to go to work. They are going to look beautiful in you museum.
Amazing. He makes a skill look easy when in fact it is very difficult. Getting the right mix of paints, the smooth flowing strokes, the detailed attention, he is a master. Excellent job.
I love the sound of masking tape in the morning 😊
It just hit me, for a lark, add a Schrader valve to the back side of the fellows on one of the rubber tires, see if anyone notices or tries to add air 😅
That was some great information on your painting techniques and products you use to get your fantastic paint jobs completed. More of your historical in the videos you share with everyone. Excellent job Dave, stay safe and keep your lessons going in the books. Fred.
Nice looking wheels😊👍♥️
I am impressed by how well it turned out. The explanation is clear and informative. Illustrated is what it takes to get superior results.
Those are some gorgeous wheels! Love the color and the finish!!
Well done, again, sir!
A great big thank you for taking us along on this painting trip Dave. Loved it.
Yes a big thank you!
Very nice. Look forward to seeing your videos. Very informative. Thanks.
Can you imagine, craftsman back in the day used to hand paint these without a single run or drip, and even getting a glass finish with just a horse hair brush. How they did it, I'll never know but I gotta admire their skill. They were a breed of their own back then.
a simple video that explains your entire ethos Dave, straightforward approach that aims only at the top and always achieves it. you are a master of your trade and should be recognised for this/ perfection is the only goal and you hit it everytime in everything you do. if future generations have half of what you strive for we would be in a much better place.
I learn a lot about using c-clamps from watching your page. Thanks.
I can certainly tell this was not your first rodeo on painting wheels.
The results speak for themselves !!!
Anyone that can have such a finish and make it look easy, is way above my pay grade !!!
Excellent job !!!
Once again thanks for the video
A true craftsman in many trades! It is always a pleasure for me to watch and learn.
Much more better than watching it dry, hey!
This was very interesting. Thanks for letting us in to see your painting techniques!
Nice to see old school suction guns in use,,all that was around 35 yrs ago when i started my training,,i see you spray with a closed fan,i also hear and see your gun spitting,,think its time for a gravity fed gun,,.much more controllable and better finish,,more efficiency as well less paint used,also a lot easier to clean😉
Ps you can use a 2k solid auto paint,,just put some flex additive into it..ive used a lot over the years on fiberglass products..it never cracks
Beautiful job Dave. You have a tremendous amount of patience. And it shows in the finish product.
fastest tape job i have ever seen
Seriously gorgeous color :)
You make the process look effortless. Great work and fantastic results!
Wheels turned out stunning. Beautiful job and thank you for sharing with us your knowledge, skills and abilities.
Your results are amazing, what works best for you is all that matters
Hypnotic and delightful. Thank you.
Good job Dave 👏👍👌❤️
A good education is always beneficial for everyone great job and video
Dear Mr. Engels, Thank you for your advice on painting. I have a lot of experience in woodworking, I once had an expensive furniture company. So my experience was only with the wood that will be in the house. I have learned from you that the easiest way to protect wood that will be used outdoors is to apply the first coat of a very diluted paint or varnish to protect the wood from weathering. And it really works! :)
Good job Dave, it looks like a big air brush when you have the nozzle narrowed down.
Another one of your amazing skills. Brilliant.
Wow....beautiful work!
Thank you for sharing with us Dave😊
No runs , no drips , no errors - just well thought out , methodical and much practiced execution !
Thanks Dave
Amazing work! Nicely done.
Wow ! Much better then the brush ! Looks great
great color and a very rich look can't wait to see it done !
Thank you for freely sharing your knowledge with us.
Wow you are a professional with golden hands, your workshop looks like a synthesis of flowers 23:28. Your sharing is very good and useful, thank you.
Really amazing all the background info. Who will carry on this mad knowledge? Quite a top notch job. As usual.
I thought the sign painting was giving away secrets! lol this tells all... respect. very useful to any looking for such info.
Old Bink's style paint gun!! I love those!! HVLP is the rage these days.
I think the top design of the gun looks more like a DeVilbiss model or a knockoff unit. Binks had a different area at the hook point if memory serves me correctly. However, a real painter can shoot with any type of gun!
You snucker by😂. You made me laugh. Good info, and good job. 🇺🇸👍🏻
The advantage of using a brush, you avoid any run. But it takes very very long. My dad taught me how to paint with a brush when I was a mere teen, I can do a good enough job; I never managed to spray paint properly.
Nice work Dave.
We now have the knowledge , all we are lacking is the ability ..Hopefully next weeks video will provide that ..😂👍
Thanks for sharing that method hopefully someone benefits directly
Always loved to watch you build a wagon or buggy, maybe this year you can build a racing buggy!
Carmine red. I love that color. We had a horse drawn sleigh that was painted black and carmine. Just beautiful.
🙂 Real good technique from former paint chemist
A real interesting video on painting. Thanks for showing us your technique.
Great job. Thank you 😊
Fancy looking wheels.
Beautiful color and I love the high gloss shine.
Very, very nice.
Lo❤e, the color.
Have a beautiful weekend to you and the misses.
Thanks for the painting lesson! It is interesting that you don't use automotive paint. Your explanation makes total sense, I just never thought about it I will remember this for my future projects!
Once again thank you sir for your knowledge.
That was much more entertaining than I would have imagined. I thought it would be like your sanding video. lol Thank you! Rick in east TN
Very good system. I really enjoyed watching you.
I only do brushpainting, starting with complete spokes first as paint behaves totally different out of the brush.