Why Not to Buy a Lifted Truck
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- Why Not to Buy a Lifted Truck, truck review with Scotty Kilmer. Lift kits for trucks and lifted trucks. Why lifting or raising a truck is a bad idea (suspension and body lift kit). Whether it's a car or truck, it often does bad things to the suspension and drive train that can lead to expensive repairs later on. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 50 years.
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Scotty Kilmer where’s the link for the common sense? I’m told I need that a lot.
Kinda agree with video but kinda not. The lift I’m planning will keep all my angles minus transmission to drive shaft but even that’s an easy fix with a dual yoke.
Scotty Kilmer lol..👏..👏..
Scotty Kilmer what happened to your four head
Your common sense needs to be evaluated brother. Most of what you mentioned is simply false
Scotty I don't understand, if I can't lift my truck or drive an expensive German car, how then can I make my weiner not look as small?
bcbp14 Buy a Harley
RAYMOND ESCUIN perfect answer, that made me laugh
***** the jerk store called and they're running out of you!
***** Giddyup!
+bcbp14 LMAO this is great
I never see any of these jacked up Monster Trucks out in the woods when I'm hunting and fishing. Seems like I see a lot more of them cruising around the mall driven by guys with their baseball hats on backwards.
Mall crawlers
Yep
That's great. You're the exception to the rule.
Can confirm, I am one of those.
I've been all over Florida and know exactly what you're saying. I love seeing Monster Trucks with chome wheels and no bumper hitch. You KNOW that baby isn't doing any off-roading and has never towed anything heavier than a case of beer. Short guys seem to love 'em too for some reason.
“Easier to get under when they break down.” Priceless.
Lifted trucks are the best yall
Easier to change the oil on*
Yeah, you're gonna need it, I can get under my not lifted suv just fine 😆
Lifted truck is a must if you life in area that get flooded allot, so your above the water.
"Why Lifted Trucks are Dumb" - By Ozzy Osbourne
Or John Lennon?
Dead!
You mean jozzy lennbourne
He kinda looks like ozzy
Geddy Lee
I can confirm. I lifted my truck and now my ankles are broken :(
mr1337357
Both of them!? How?
mr1337357 it's a joke dude.
Can they fix them? Are you in pain?
why u dont buy junk spacer lift kits for IFS. Do do a Dana 60 SAS swap.. Be able to rock crawl with 44's..
I'm probably gonna FJ80 swap. I'm too lazy to chop up a D60 to fit.
It's dumb starting your truck. It wears out the engine.
You didn't grasp this at all.
george marshall dang, I should never start my engine again..
george marshall 😂😂😂😂😂👌👌👌👌
Well your truck is made to run/start, not made to be set at different levels/angles
get a proper lift installed
After watching this, I’m getting a 90s model Chevy and putting a 6 inch rough country on it with 40s
Atlantic Pacific I bought my ford that was lifted... and I removed it
@@rustypliers74 really cus I bought a Ford 250 with a 10" lift on it, and my only thought was I wonder if I can clear 40's
Jayden Van Ness I agree with you haha. I feel like this man's full of crap
Make sure you solve that leaking oil pan gasket before you touch anything else. I finally got mine to stop. Major P.I.T.A. now, just waiting to see how long she stays dry.
I have one she rides nice and smooth... makes it easier for when I need to get under my truck
I LOVE the transitions between cuts!😂 you never know where he’s gonna pop out next.
Next cut, Scotty pops out of the tailpipe.
Man. Egos are getting hurt left and right .
7.2k posers are seriously BUTT HURT right now...
When what you own doesn't really represent what you show for.
Doing it wrong wears out components. He is wrong. Their is alot more to it than just paying for and putting on the kit.
Hahahaha
@@od11bj yup. learning about going broke
What happened to letting people do whatever the hell the want with the vehicles they pay for? Lifted trucks can be lifted properly. People who lift trucks don't give a shit about gas mileage also..Or tire wear. We lift our shit because we like it that way.
How can you say there is NO real reason for anyone to lift up a truck that's already high? and then claim they have an inferiority complex? What about people that just like lifted trucks?
I'm a bit disappointed by this ignorant viewpoint you seem to have! Its ok not to like lifted trucks but to say its "dumb" or because of an "inferiority complex" is really ignorant :/
Damn, in 4 minutes Scotty just torched half of Arizona worse than the literal sun
Make a video about why having a steering weel is a bad idea
That's illogical while this is not
100 % of vehicles with steering wheels will steer into something one day, causing a crash.
Dude that is so funny lmao bro!! Hell steering wheels are so overrated!! Lmao
Weel…
*wheel*. And put your ball cap on like a grown man.
As an owner of a lifted truck, this man has many true points as I have learned over time.
Channel Zero One how long did your truck last before signs of wear? I’m planning on buying a 2001 Toyota Tacoma and I had some mods in mind
Michael Hogan I just lifted my 2000 tacoma 2 days ago and I love it
Michael Hogan i have a 2009 gmc serria and put a 1.25 inch body lift and a 3.5 suspension lift on and less than a year snapped a ball joint (which were new with the upper control arms that came with the lift)
Channel Zero One you can't haul a traler
Kyle Helsel I'm looking at doing a SAS on my 02, they are godly off-road, but it takes either a shitload of time and a lot of money, or just a shitload of money.
That is why you do not get cheap-o lift kit that just stretches the springs without lowering the diff to match factory angles
Tires are the best way to get true ground clearance, so a body lift allows you to clear them without messing with the factory suspension
+Daniel Bargas So true cause regular lift kits will screw up the axle pinion angle sometimes and cause the shaft to lock up.
+Joseph Long yep 3inch body and 3 inch suspension is better than 6 inch suspension, just make sure the body lift is a quality reputable company
+Daniel Bargas definitely
+Joseph Long or you could just lift solid axle trucks that aren't for looks
And here I am thinking this video was going to be about physically lifting a vehicle off the ground.
Same here
me 3
I was thinking the same thing haha
Guilty here, lol!
Me 6. The only reason I watched this video was to see what the frack was wrong with lifting a vehicle. I would never put a lift kit on a vehicle. I wouldn't have wasted my time if he had used "lift kit" in the title.
This video makes me glad I put a 8 inch lift on my truck and I’m happy with my 8 miles per gallon
What about now?
@@elementsk8erq probably 4mpg
Mine runs on 13.6mpg
What the heck happened to the grill? Look's like someone put chicken wire on it.
Welder Nate I've seen a lot of ford, GM, and nissan trucks & SUVS with that
Not sure why they do it (my guess is their ashamed of the manufacturer badge)
lmaoo
So they all wish they had dodge trucks? I don't know of any other big name trucks
JayGT try putting generic mesh on a Dodge Ram lol
My stupid ex drives a big truck with a lift kit. She won't admit it but it's to feel big since she's like 4'11"
how does she even get into it? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ryan Edwards She has to wear platforms that are about 6" high, I swear. Hey, wanna see her TH-cam chnnel? You'll laugh so hard.
Link?
thelonelyfry Look up Destiny Dickinson. Btw if you decide you'd like to give her shit, I'd be grateful. She deserves every moment, I have dirt on her that would ruin her reputation for good.
Is it the channel with all those mediocre monologues? Man that's cringey.
Dumb video, if you do it right you can eliminate all of these issues. My buddys 06 Duramax has the CV joints straight from axle to hub on a 4-6'' Cognito lift. He has Cognito UCAs, heavy duty tie rods, tie rod sleeves, everything to eliminate these problems.
True, but he brings up several valid points that many people who lift their trucks for the looks don't consider. Your friend did some research, and lifting his truck was still worth it to him. To me, the added off road performance outweighs the higher center of gravity, worse drivetrain geometry, decreased stopping distance and cost that it adds to my maintenance. If this video dissuades one person from turning their truck into a pavement pounding poser-mobile, then I am glad it is on TH-cam.
He is right TD, and you are as well, however you are basically talking about rebuilding a truck to run normally with a lift.
This truck looks like it got a basic low buck lift that will "get you down the road", IFS is already a fail attempting to lift it, so please don't argue that with me.
he is simple ...do it the professional way and no problems it is not dumb like he said ..u can lift any truck but do it right
exactly. but most People take shortcuts and dont do it right...
Mann Scotty I bet your customers be like," dam what the hell taking Scotty so dam long fixing my car. You always hath to film a video with it🤣😂💀
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Its part of the unspoken agreement. The price you pay to have it properly fixed. If he didnt roast your vehicle, its not a good sign.
Why It's Dumb To Lift A Vehicle? Because you can hurt your back.
mrk107 whatever, lifted trucks and jeeps look awesome
offshore fisherman do you not get the joke
Peter Marino i do, lowered vehicles usually look like crap unless they're done right, they can be hard to get out of
mrk107 that's not true I lifted my 6 year olds nephew's Powerwheels Chevy Silverado vehicle and my back is fine and dandy
LOL, good one. the answer I was expecting was "Because the height of your truck doesn't correlate to penis size"
He's totally right, but I'm still lifting my truck anyway.
Joshua Scofield Yeah me too
Same here
Yeah because you all are idiots
Hardheaded
Joshua Scofield you must make a good living then
That's why when you lift it you lift it the right way you cant just buy a lift kit and slap it on there without compensating for it where needed ever since I was young ive been around lifted trucks and I prefere lowered trucks myself but either way you go you gotta compensate.....scotty forgot the biggest advantage of a lifted truck!! fat chicks cant jump!! haha unless you prefer the hefty heifers then that could be a problem.
LMFAO PERFECT, That is probably the best advantage for lifting a truck I must say.
That wont stop them from getting in your bed. lol
All y’all salty cus he’s telling the truth 😂 I have a lift on my truck and I find this video to be informative
You just have to set the lift right and he acts like lifted messes up the truck just leveling it can mess it up you got to do it right the first time. I bought a cat eye chevy from my neighbor and it was leveled a nice truck but he didn’t level it right and when I bought it it messed up 3 months after I bought it but it was already junk looked good but wasn’t worth nothing. My cousin has a 12 inch lift on his d max no problems with it.
Please make a video about why you shouldnt camber the wheels on a car.
Fox McCloud 007 yes! He will definitely bring the younger demographic attention to your Channel
What about negative camber tho haha, joke aside stancers are dumb as fuck
Casey Jones yes but that's about 5 degrees max not 20 haha
Marguel Gutierrez better than having a lifted truck
Fox McCloud 007 mild or low angle camber looks good imho and is useful on the track. Anything more looks trashy
This is the dumbest video I’ve ever seen, but a good lift and it will lower the diff to keep the angles right
Sure a video about how lift kits are not always dumb just dumb in general, is stupid because of what you said, because you need to have your truck 20 feet in the air to compensate for your small penis. Sure makes a lot of sense.
Bet you didn’t think they were dumb during the hurricane flood in Houston!
Or huricane floorance
Lifted Trucks seen in Disaster Areas are professionally done and are balanced and not at angles. What he is talking about those that lift to look cool. He does not talk about those that have 30 inch plus tires with a professional lift.
Or Coastal North Carolina ;o)
Emergency Rapid Response Team 30 inch tires are uhhh tiny
His voice is wearing out my eardrums
man scotty with this video and the dont drive through water video you aint gettin any points with the offroad community haha
I'm waiting for the video where you talk about why it's a bad idea to lock up your brakes like you do in every video intro
that's pretty good
+Ieat Crayons I'm sorry that you are in denial for being a gender confused homosexual. The first step is acceptance. Once you accept yourself, then other will be able to accept you. Nothing wrong with being sexually attracted to the same sex. Have fun and make sure to use protection when you have foreign objects placed in your rectum.
+Ieat Crayons woah chill out dude, salty over something so small....
+MotoX Champ check the date on your last eye exam. He does this in every intro with different vehicles.
+Vasek Cekan oh you must be blind. Maybe you shouldn't be on TH-cam if you can't see. You also shouldn't be here if you don't have a brain.
One advantage of a lifted truck in heavy Deer country like in Northern Michigan is that when you hit one, not if, the Deer usually will go under the vehicle instead of over into the windshield. Does much less damage to the front of the truck and greatly minimizes the chance of Bambi joining you in the passenger compartment.
I have deer that SATURATE my neighborhood and I'm fine driving my stock gmc, usually when you LIVE in deer country you're pretty good at avoiding them. And almost every mature fullgrown doe or buck will STILL rake out your front end even with a lift. You know how tall they are??
If you get a lowered car you'd be better off because then they just go over the top.
GoogleMinus idk about that, but here in Missouri, there was a recent crash where the deer went straight through the car windshield.
grew up in Wisconsin and you not shitting about not if but when. I remember everyone had those deer whistle things on their car. some people even blew their horn every so often thinking that'd scare em off. I ain't seen a deer down here in Kentucky in years. one thing I don't miss bout up north.
No name they make a good food
Most of the dislikes probably came from Walmart parking lot ye ye boys.
Lol
IskBo I just crapped my pants😂🤭
Am a Walmart parking lot ye ye boy can confirm
Probably because he’s pointing at the transfer case calling it a transmission and said tires wear uneven/faster when a vehicle is lifted that’s false you need an alignment after installing a lift and most lifts these days come with and front diff drop so there is minimum wear on the components he is talking about. I used to like this guy but ive noticed he put opinions ahead of facts.
Don't make me rev my truck partner
Hey Scotty, what is your opinion on lowered vehicles?
It says 27 replies but none show up
Scotty,...You forgot to mention the morons that don't get the headlights properly adjusted after adding the lift-kit. A real PITA to all the other drivers on the road, whether they are coming at you or following behind.
They also are usually the ones that will put HID lights in their headlight housing that wasn't made for HIDs and they'll blind you even more.
+Poopsie Doopsie no they're not. The civic and Miata drivers are the ones known for that...
That's annoying, but not really an issue unless they have high beams on. My stock suburban already shines in people's rearview mirrors even though the truck itself is the lowest riding of the 3 american brands, ford, dodge and GM
That's I enjoy having my led light bar on my truck.
NOLL72 lol idgaf
Where can I buy a Chevy Sierra?
jlen82 they're right next to the gmc silverado's on the dealer lot, lol
Junk yard it’s a chebby
jlen82 They also sell Toyota F-150s
He meant to say GMC Sierra.
“MERICA”
With all the videos you have done, I have NOT seen one, NOT ONE, on the topic of, "What is the best vehicle for picking up babes!"
that was this one
He just posted it! Must've been scanning the comments and saw your comment! Congrats man go over and watch it and thank Scotty for listening to his fans! Lol
A pram works!
That's easy, whichever one screams "I have money!" The loudest.
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Please make a video of why you shouldn't drive a vehicle
Boss Man Daniel 😂
Boss Man Daniel u wasted ur money on a lift I bet
His next video is gonna be why oxygen is bad for humans.
FORC3OFX F3AR and yea that’s kinda the point.. vehicles are supposed to be customizable correct?
Cameron Rayford yes, but is it worth ruining them? You have a broke persons mentality
Jeep sells its own lift kits and still warranties the vehicle.
mattsbrute jeeps > trucks
ok but hwere am I supposed to fit all my shit in a jeep? don't get me wrong, I think lifted jeeps look awesome, but a lifted truck can actually fit my 8' fishing rod in it. if im ever lucky enough to be able to afford a jeep and a truck, bet your ass ill have both
I have a lifted jeep. My son and I were hit from behind at 50 mph. Insurance covered all damage. By the way ... the 37" wheel and tire mounted on the back saved us by taking all the impact.
*Joe Smith * mine paid an additional $11,000 for just my lift, wheels, and tires when i totaled my Silverado Duramax 3/4 ton... so your wrong. you must keep your receipts. of course, i don't insure my stuff through e-surance either. I use real insurance.
Jeeps are the ultimate offroad SUV nothing beats a Wrangler or oldschool Cherokee.
This should be titled, "Why it's dumb to not lift an IFS truck properly". Offroaders know that lifting a truck with a monobeam front drive axle is much easier and doesn't have as much geometry to consider as does an IFS vehicle. However, if done right, there will be nothing that's going to go wrong with your independent front suspension equipped truck so long as you don't beat on it too hard off road. There are many guys who lift their trucks the right way that enjoy all the benefits of a lifted truck off road and still are able to put hundreds of thousands of miles on their rig when their not on the trail. Lift it right and your truck will be just fine.
If you are saying that it's just dumb in general to lift a truck then that is just a flat out dumb thing to say. Sure, there is no reason to lift a truck if your going to spend all your time on paved roads; other than you thinking it looks cool. That being said, there are millions of farmers, mobile welding service owners, mobile mechanics, loggers, gas/water/oil well service guys, off-road enthusiasts, park rangers, people stationed in remote areas, families that go camping off the beaten path, etc. all across the world that would vehemently disagree with you that, "It's dumb to lift a vehicle".
***** you can lift anything. This video is 90% wrong. With a lot of dumb comments
Jim Garrison im glad someone is with me on how dumb this idiot is, he calls himself a pro, smh.
***** actually your comments are the only ignorant ones here... You say Brendan isn't as smart as the hack in the video, yet you know nothing about him in the first place. Second my comment was and still is correct. "Scotty's point" was made clear, and it wasn't "yea you can lift stuff but its not a good idea to cut corners".... You did read the title right...? Why its dumb to lift a vehicle. I'm pretty sure his point is pretty straight forward there... His hole video did nothing but bad mouth an idiot owned/ lifted truck. Uneven tire wear can happen an any vehicle, diff angle doesn't effect how it works in any way (as little as it is indexed), worse breaks is a joke because they should be upgraded with bigger tires, on and on...... So again 90% of this video is bs. So in all actually zaco, you are the only one with the dumb and wrong comments.
***** OK look smart guy. He ACTUALLY says "why it can be dumb to lift a vehicles suspension"..... Thanks for your correction. From the very start he's WRONG.... You don't " live the suspension". You replace the suspension.... Next, he doesn't say or even imply anything being installed improperly..... He just states all the issues with lifted trucks.... (Which is bs). Next "tires wearing out faster"..... How's that make any sense, a properly lifted truck has proper alingment, which in turn doesn't effect the tires, so he's WRONG again. Next.... (This one made me laugh). Ok I'll just hope that the link you shared whas the wrong page...... Because it deals with mostly caster and camber..... Which is the front tires. Non of that has ANYTHING to do with the angle of the driveshaft. The person is talking about lift blocks which either don't change the rear diff angle at all or very very little. Also blocks don't change the location or angle of the front diff at all.... So hopefully you just posted the wrong link. Every vehicle I've owned has had upgraded breaks for one reason or another. Next you lift trucks..... Not cars. (Haha okok you got me in the " actuallity ". Damn spell check). In all he implies and states all the things that can go wrong with lifted vehicles, and makes them statements. Not telling you things to watch out for, or to prevent. But that's enough technicalities for now.
+zaco21 you are quoting everything. Get under a truck done right before you start shit. My truck has been lifted on mudding tires and has been just fine for 8 years. Not a damn problem, because it was done right. Unlike the restarted truck in this video. He tried to spend less money by lifting the body rather than getting new coils and shocks. He didn't get a leveling kit. He didn't align the wheels after getting the tires. I did all these things and my truck is fine bud
Or you could just do a proper lift and not a cheep half assed one
Or you could learn how to spell.
Is rough country a good brand?
What would u consider a proper lift?
there a cheep brand. put money into it and do it right. @@youngshrine3024
Ain’t nothing wrong with cranking your torsion keys !
1:40 this is a problem with a crap IFS system, solid axles don't care if you lift it or not.
So it's not ok to lift your truck but it is ok to slam on your brakes and flatspot tires?
oh, someone wants revenge. I'm making intros that have some snap to them, otherwise I don't drive like that. customer wanted brakes to work better, so I fixed em with a new brake booster and wanted to try em out.
Casey Miller
You certainly don't know me, my wife says the exact opposite. But really, many of these raised truck guys do seem to have been underendowed in the manly department from my experience. I don't need a tall truck to pull women.
Scotty Kilmer in your experience? how many dicks have you seen of dudes that drive lifted trucks????
Power Stroker
not too many, they are too small to actually see. (you asked for that one.)
Scotty Kilmer that was the only acceptable answer haha
I gots an idea.
Lifted.
Smart-car.
????
DO IT
make this happen
Step 1) Lifted Smart Car (w/ Super Swampers?)
Step 2) ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Step 3) Profit !
Don't forget to paint the dice numbers on the sides.
Ian McGee
Profit?
PROFIT.
I have a lifted truck, but my long drives begin when the road ends. Suspension geometry remains the same with a good kit.... Including a dropped front diff. When you start using torsion keys and crap like that, that's where most of the ride and wear both come from
Things break on my truck cause of abuse, not cause of a 6" lift.
2k people got offended
it's at 4k now
Its 5k now
If you half-ass the lift on your truck of course you're going to fuck it up.
If that is a "giant lift kit" @ 1:13 and those are "aggressive" tires @ 2:04, I think he'd have a heart attack if he went to Texas, lol.
But, his points are valid, you can't just throw a kit on, crank up your torsion bars, and call it good. Driveline angles, steering angles, and alignment are all effected.
1)He lives in Texas.
2)He means giant as too much for the truck, it messed up everything.
3)The tires are not mud-terrain but are more aggressive than road tires.
*****
1) doesn't get out much, does he?
2) incorrectly installed or designed =/= too much.
TBH, that truck is so beat up I'd be shocked if it didn't haven't a bunch of worn suspension components.
3) Those are Bridgestones, that is a tread pattern extremely similar to the Bridgestone touring tires somebody put on a Pontiac Firebird I owned. Those tires aren't even remotely "aggressive". They are pretty much an all season tire at the most. He shoulda walked the 6 feet to the other side of the truck and showed the mud terrain tire there if he wanted to say that.
l337pwnage
They are probably dueler 694, an All terrain kind of tire, they are not that aggresive but every new 4wd comes with road tires, in comparison to them yeah they are much more aggressive. There is no lift that won't mess up an Independent Front Suspension unless it's not lifting it much but still... The only right way to put such lift is to install a Solid front Axle and then lift it, but still it might require a differential lowering kit if it's too much. You also got to worry about the driveshaft. Lifting a vehicle is not as simple as it may sound. Sure you can do it but it will cost you in reliability. Monster trucks made from f150s and any other similar truck look cool, are great off-roading but they break often aswell. Just an example.... Of course if you need one of these lifted trucks nobody said not to get one, he was probably criticizing the people who lift them for the looks! That's crazy it messes up everything and gives you something that you don't really need. Anyways... oh by the way, what truck do you drive? Have fun and keep wheeling :)
l337pwnage
Looking at it again and judging by the siping the tires could also be Dueler 695 or dunlop grandtreks but what I'm really curious about is why the owner had 4 different tires in the truck. That's one of the reason it surely gets bad MPG... let alone the aggressive tires hehe
l337pwnage
never mind my other comment, I watched the vid again, they clearly are Bridgestone Dueler A/T 694 tires.
I will lift my truck all the way to the damn sky four-wheel drive life
Merica!
Truck gang!!
I️ had a lifted 1/2 Tom chevy for years (1984)
Never had a problem out of it, save for the shitty 305. It was a 4” rough country full leaf spring lift, with extended break lines, steering drop arm.
Rode like silk, and could go off the road at 30+ mph into dirt. And big tires wear like iron if you inflate to proper psi, and rotate/balance them.
Your customers didn’t properly install their shit.
Exactly. I had a 2003 F-350 with an 8 inch lift and 37" tires of course I used it for towing so it had airbags but it was a race truck basically. And it never had any problems aside from being the 6.0 it had
Unless you do off roading lifting is silly to me. I belong to a CRV club and its hilarious to see how many of these guys have lifted their Honda CR-Vs. It's a FUCKING CR-V! It was designed for city driving and it comes with a picnic table for christ sake! Not exactly an off roaders special.
Did a Honda guy just day that his Honda is something besides the "Racecars" every Honda guy seems to think they are..? never thought I would see this day.
Tell this to the guys who lift Chevy caprices with 30 inch rims. They're doing something much worse!
omg man I hate that shit I'm about to buy an 89 caprice and a lot of guys at work are like put rims on it......rims gtfo
Yeah fuck that it pisses me off when I see that stupid shit.
Donk'd and stanced cars handle like crap and have worse clearance issues than lifted trucks that never see mud (those mods are only for the look), I'm surprised at the number of people daily driving when that stuff should only be kept to the show circuit and get trailered the rest of the time.
Hell its their money. Let them waste it how ever they like. Mechanics will make a killing off their mistakes. Good thing here is that now their informed. but in the end the decision is theirs to make.
I hate donks with a passion.
Yeah but.. What will the ones with a small Pipi otherwise do??? We need to lift it to impress the girlsss...
Here is a Joke: Lift your trucks, fat girls can't jump!
lol love it!
Hey Scotty its really dumb idea to slide the front tires on your vette you will flat spott them
that old thing has half a foot of rat shit sitting under the seats, it's used to being treated mean. A true Rat Car.
Scotty Kilmer hahahahahahaha Scottys not too shabby at the verbal joust eh?
i cant stop laughing
Pretty much what he's saying is that if you drive a lifted truck your drowning in the poontang
+Scotty Kilmer Not when you live in the south buddy, who wouldn't want a Porsche anyways they at least 50k more than a truck
I agree, im ugly as fuck but just about every girl that sees my pickup wants a ride!
Is that a Toyota in your picture?
Yea it is
Joseph Patterson Fat Girls Can't Jump! That's how I see it haha
1987 lifted 4x4 still going strong
This is a totally poor example to use. It's a cheap lift and doesn't sort out driveline geometry or steering geometry. A good, well designed lift kit will drive as well as, if not slightly better than factory with the right parts and paying attention to what is affected by a lift and what needs adjusting you won't even notice a difference in parts wearing out as everything will be almost as factory spec
that stingray sounds like shit
Very good analysis, the original design is lost. thanks for advise!
Ok .....
1. A true proper lift has angle shims for the rear end to reduce the driveline angle.
2. Depending on the steering mechanism a lift kit comes with different pitman arms
3. A IFS lift should have a drop kit to keep CV axles at stock angle.
4. You really dont know much about lifted trucks.
I think your only valid complaint is working under the hood.
With the new designs of lift kits available the ride the look the performance and resale are all greatly improved. Aftermarket springs and shocks will ALWAYS be better than OEM bs.
skagit bigz well said I agree
I think it hilarious that your best comeback is ride a motorcycle REAL men ride two wheels or none at all! A lot of these guys ride there dirtbikes that they take out of there jacked up truck! I am with the majority of people commenting on this that if a lift is done right nothing will happen but regular wear and tear! Everything eventually falls apart you as a mechanic should know that nothings made perfect! You're gonna have to work on anything you own whether or not its stock....has a leveling kit..or is lifted 6 inchs in the air. And most of these guys that are "tearing up the wilderness" are actually the guys keeping the wilderness clean and picking up trash from city slickers that don't give a rip and drive up the mountain and drop a truck load of trash over the bank. These 4x4 enthusiast and dirtbike riders want to keep the wilderness open to go out and have fun....they don't destroy anything if anything there saving the wilderness from being ruled by government! on another topic I'm sure that wayyy more people are killed on bikes then jacked up trucks i don't know if that's why you think its "cooler" or not! Everybody has an opinion but to me it sounds like you are trying to put people down just for what they drive which is crazy!
I find it silly for guys to put a bike on a truck, drive it somewhere, then ride the bike. Either ride the bike everywhere or don't use it. Like those dudes who go to Sturgis putting their harleys in a trailer, then riding the last five miles on their bikes into town. Not real bikers if you ask me.
Haha what's the difference between where we ride you ride on the street and just see what you can on the pavement where we can all see in our "jacked up trucks". Where as on a dirt bike you can go places and see things that no one else can! You're just concealed by the living of the city life instead of being able to go in the mountains where you're not bothered by anyone and relax without being bothered! And as for driving our bikes places not everyone has to some of us are blessed and can ride from our garages some are not so lucky and want to enjoy going into the wilderness and not be stuck to only the pavement that they drive on every day to there job! And they also make enduros that are capable of of riding both on and off road!
Scotty Kilmer dirtbikes are not street legal in most states
If your lifting your truck just for looks, then push off. But Jeeps and other well supported 4x4s are nearly full proof with the correct parts.
This guy's a nut job.
Scotty, I don't question your experience. However, just because you've seen damage caused by DIY lifts doesn't mean lifting is "dumb", or true for all lifted vehicles. Also, dumb is an opinion. Like how some might say its dumb to rev your engine and peel out.
Rev up your Little Man Syndrome!
Another reason not to buy a lifted truck is that it tells you a lot about the previous owner and how they probably treated the thing. The type of guys who lift trucks are a lot more likely to have drove it like their hair was on fire. Not to mention, if they actually made use of all that ground clearance, that means they were driving it through some very harsh environmental conditions. If you're into rock climbing or mud running etc, that's fine, but I'm not buying your beat on toy after you're done playing with it.
Great vid, Scotty!
This is probably the best reason not to buy a lifted truck. Nothing against people who want them though.
You really talk to the people that disagree with you like shit. Most people you're arguing with on here are just simply saying you should let people do what they want without calling them juvenile. Yeah, there are lots of people that lift trucks just to look cool, but you seem to be ignoring that lots of people actually go off roading, and even more important than that, there are lots of organizations, emergency response teams, and businesses that literally have to have lifted vehicles. Stop pretending like everyone that lifts their vehicle is damaging it. Lift kits can properly be installed, and the vehicle they are installed on can be adequately adjusted so that the vehicle suffers from no long term strain. It is possible, and many people need to have it done to their vehicle for their job, no matter how much you hate it or think it is "juvenile". You're being extremely close minded right now.
That's a hard one for someone to argue against.
Didn't know lifted trucks are consider race cars
Michael & Mishelle i think he said, "raised" cars, instead of trucks.
I think thats the joke
I thought the same thing plus Iam lit af
Well every lifted truck I see does floor it at a green light.
Dillion Castillo they look stupid!
If you are going to lift a truck, you REALLY better know what you are doing.
Anthony Patrick Dual diffs? I must say, I'm not familiar with that term.
Dual Differential..:)
Ranjith Suram As in, one per axle?
Anthony Patrick HA! Serious? ALL 4x4 trucks have "dual differentials", that's what makes them 4x4's. I think you meant solid axles, front and rear.
lol I am not familiar with the term either, but i think it's because you dont know what you are talking about. like Sean said a 4x4 has a diff in the front, and a diff in the rear. never heard it referred to as a duel diff. maybe you mean a locker, something you can run as a standard diff on the road or lock it for off road.
Never lift your vehicle unless:
You live in a swamp ✔️
Monster truck driver ✔️
1993 OBS F150 XLT ✔️
So many people in denial.
Who are you gonna trust
A youtube comment
Or a guy with *DECADES* of experience...
Jpower I've got decades of mechanical experience and I can honestly say he is the dumbest so-called mechanic I've ever seen
even experience person makes mistake
So should I get a 9’’ inch or a 10’’ inch lift
i would say don't go too high but depends what are you going to use it for
12 for sure
go with 24" Lift kit with 40" tires that's gonna look insane
Drop it and put on 13's
24" with military axles and 54" tires.
This guy is just a big ray of sunshine!
lol!
I have driven a lifted truck my entire life I've built one from the ground up twice if it's done right there are no issues
Dude I have a lbz duramax and it had a lift kit on it I was NOT cheap and we got a rough country 6 inch lift with 35s and it made everything harder and it didn’t even make it better or beneficial all a the lift does is make your motor and transmission use more power and take more ware off the motor and make the motor not run good
Gamer-beast-boy and Thriller1011 rough country is a cheaper "affordable" brand. I bet if u would had bought a BDS or zone u would not of had issues
@@gamerbeastboy1842 rough country is cheap and not even a mid range product. Buy BDS suspension lift and with the fox shocks, then you will see and feel the difference.
@@gamerbeastboy1842 I’m assuming you didn’t change the gear ratio on your truck as well.
No I didn’t
Lifts have changed a great deal over the past few years....any decent kit will keep all the angles the same as the factory set them. But then again, every major truck manufacturer is now offering full size trucks lifted up to 6" out the door AND covering them with the same factory warranty that would be offered in the stock form....So, Not dumb to lift a truck when done right. Sure, a cheap lift installed by a DIYer could result in accelerated wear of drivetrain components...sure if the shocks & springs are not upgraded with the lift, the ride quality will be poor...sure the trans, Differentials, Transfer Case, ect. Can be damaged if NOT re geared to accommodate larger tires....And yes, you will also see decreased gas mileage if the ECM is not tuned.....BUT, These are things that are involved in doing a PROPER Lift. So once again, when done the right way....The truck will last just as long lifted as it would last in the stock form. This video was really unnecessary.
As a GM technician this video makes me laugh. We put factory lifts on our truck nowadays, and I have never seen one come back
You make me laugh. EVERYTHING GM makes these days comes back with problems, you are not telling the truth.
Scotty Kilmer OH SHIT
I went through some nightmares with GM cars. Never in my life ill drive a GM again.
Not sure why this video has so many dislikes but a lot of what he's saying is true. There is a "proper" way to lift the suspension that involves extensive driveline/steering modifications but most (if not all) "lift kits" do not address this. Lift kits only focus on the height aspect which is only half the puzzle, if you care about reliability and want to do the lift properly, you'll need to pony up the cash for the proper driveline/steering modifications. Often times, these ancillary modifications will end up costing more than the actual lift kit which is why most people overlook this.
exactly. you get what you pay for which is why I went with BDS
The video has dislikes because it’s a bunch of bullshit. The video should be titled why you shouldn’t buy a cheap lift kit. Not why are lifted trucks dumb. This is just an old creepy man spewing his opinions. If you have ever done a lift you would know a good kit does come with extensions and pivots for your steering and drive shaft. Most guys lifting their trucks are also changing drive shafts and axles and even upgrading the steering to push bigger tires around. You know what I think is dumb. Driving a tiny little car that’s slower than my big truck, I think it’s dumb to drive a little car that you wouldn’t have a chance of walking out of if you were to hit or get hit by my truck, I think it’s dumb when people put a wing on a front wheel drive car. I think it’s dumb when people put 2000 dollar rims on a car with a broken window and four different colored body panels.
Getting a 8" bds with dual fox shocks front and rear. Bds coilovers front steering stabilizers and throwing 26x16 specialty forged on 37s amp tires. Am I dumb ???!
braindeadbikers 3rd gen mega cab
braindeadbikers not yet
Look how much spit flies out of Scotty's mouth when he says 'platform shoes' at beginning
🤣
Pppplattttfffform ssshhhoessss.
Lets have a video that talks about not putting a mud terrain, an all-terrain, and a snow tires all on the same vehicle. Obviously this truck is owned by someone who needs more help than Scotty can give.
Justin H. I've been looking through the comments waiting for someone to say this
Great observation 😂
Justin H. Mismatched tires drives me crazy.
Justin H. All people I know with lifted trucks just do it for looks.
Did he say chevy sierra ?
Yes... But to be fair they're the same thing.
haha yep, i just said EXACTLY the same thing
Chevy is a GM product he probably just mixed up the Silverado and the Sierra.
It's the same truck. If anything it shows he knows more than the modern consumer.
Not necessarily. 99% of people know they're the same.
The issues are because they didn't get a quality lift kit and didn't realign everything right. There are other details that go into it, but the main idea is, don't go cheap and if you aren't confident doing it yourself or don't have the experience, then have a professional do it.
Understand I'm not hating on you, I love your videos, it's just, it's not as bad as the video makes it seem
Yup.
yeah, you cant just turn up the torsion bar pre-load and call it lifted. I see what he is talking about all the time though. you cant be cool on the cheap.
HFAS TV thanks. Someone finally mentioned it. This looked like a cheap lift kit. A proper one would address most issues.
HFAS TV Just don’t do it. Nearly no practical benefit, high CoG, and annoying.
This all depends on the lift quality you purchase I install a lot of them and a good lift factors in the angles of the drive shafts and Axles in the front, Make sure you do routine maintenance on your truck helps a lot, also, you have to plan wisely rebuilding your front suspension and doing it right takes most of the worries discussed away.
Yes and kryptonite steering products can help bulk up the suspension too
Im sure if you experienced gippsland roads in victoria, australia you would change your mind. I constantly hear that people have destroyed their rims because of massive pot holes everywhere, so getting that lift with the bigger tyres is actually a better ride then what it would be normal
Sure, if you live in road warrior land, go ahead. I'm talking about normal streets and smooth highways here in the US.
Scotty Kilmer The U.S. isn't all normal streets and smooth highways. I live and So. IL and it is anything but that. Sure you have your highways and in-town streets. But it's mostly back roads where I'm from. And if you have a friend who's out and stuck, chances are unless you have a significantly differently designed truck, or bigger lift and tires, you'll be stuck as well. So to say that our preference, or the things that come in handy in difficult driving situations is dumb, then I feel I have the freedom to tell you that you're dumb. I respected you up until this point. But, I'm dumb. So I will be unsubscribing to you now. And another thing, I love the bigger tires, regardless of decreasing gas mileage, because it increases traction by a whole lot.
Cody Deadmond His advice appears to be mainly for the average driver in urban/semi-urban environments and so of course if you live somewhere where it is actually needed, then use it. I think the annoyance is that a sizable portion of lifted trucks rarely, if ever, see dirt roads.
The people I know who lift there trucks that never see any dirt are the people that take them to car shows. And those trucks aare relatively nice. Looking at upwards of $20,000 in upgrades, and have all the upgrades in parts that he references that face more wear with your typical lift kit. Some kits even come with them. It one of the aspects such as, do it right or don't do it all. Don't do right and you break down, that's your own business, your own money, your own truck. Which I don't even know why he is complaining because it brings mechanics such as himself more business. I can see his stand point and it is a little biased. But not all of his viewers live in a suburban/rural area, and he never referenced that it's only specifically ignorant to those who live urban environments. Lastly, I know people who live in towns, but have friends that live on back roads or way out in the country, or still love to go mudding. Lifts have many different purposes. Style, performance, etc. I feel, if you own it, and it's your money, it's no one else place to tell you it's stupid.
chownful Who cares? Why does it matter to you or anyone else AT ALL what other people do with their vehicles? It's pathetic.
Scotty how about body lift kit will it cause the same damage as this?
I'd like to know this too, Scotty.
Body lifts are worse
i need to know too.
Body lifts do not change suspension geometry but they can hurt in other ways. Typically around 1" of body lift is ok, but 2" or 3" body lifts are not only ugly but can hurt the vehicle.
Your next video should be why your stingray smokes like your burning roofing shingles. I am not referring to the tire smoke!
the1boogeyman BEST COMMENT ON THE LIST BY FAR! LMFAO
You get what you pay for. It’s 2018 the lift kits have come a long way.
But it's the same jerkoffs lifting their trucks to drive on the street.
electricamir248 it’s their money.. Why hate?
As if we had vehicle codes and bumper height requirements for a reason. Most cops don't enforce vehicle codes, especially noise.
electricamir248 Why do you care so much? If somebody wants a loud exhaust on their car let em do it. You must not have much fun in life if a loud exhaust makes you mad.
@@jacobn3160 I've been woken up at 3am too many times. I have bikes that are fun with stock exhaust. You don't need to be a nuisance to other people, to have fun.
Scotty how about if a vehicle is lowered?
different kinds of problems, but actually makes em safer as they are harder to roll over then.. But they tend to ride like crap low
Im curious what kind of damages?
+Don King Skid plates and oil pans can get damaged easier if your car is lowered
Well, to each his own. I don't care much for lifted IFS trucks anyway. If it's done properly you eliminate most of those problems he mentioned.
A good lift kit takes into account the changes in geometry and only an idiot would lift a vehicle and not realign it.
Exaaaactly
Lots of idiots out there and even the ones who do the alignment correctly NEVER ever think to adjust the goddamned headlights.
IcantSignIn Lots of people that perform the job don't realize that it's a project. Projects demand things, as you have stated, such as headlamp adjustment...
I'm not a master by any sense. But, your sense of headlamp adjustment stands for reason... I certainly wouldn't have thought of it, and it is something to seriously keep in mind, seemingly.
My trucks got IFS. Diff was dropped so front drive line is at stock angle. Rears just lifted with blocks. So rear diff angle is the same. Nearly Everything else is unaffected. The only thing at a crap angle is the rear prop. But UJs are cheap and easy to change. I just make sure they packed full of grease often. Not all lift kits are half assed.
Drive a lifted truck for several years as a daily and chances are your ankles will feel it 😁 Whats the point of dropping thousands and thousands of dollars at it and having it gather dust not using it often...
and if you have any questions about his hair ask his doctor
You should make a video about lowered trucks 😀
It isn't a real lift kit, they don't just put a spacer and those are not aggressive.
Also, having a lift kit means you have smoother suspension which means you feel less bumps because instead of taking impacts like you see on every vehicle, like when the wheel doesn't get closer to the inner fender, your lift kit suspension absorbs it.
+F-350 6.7 PowerStroke I don't think you know what you're talking about...
OverRotated Owl Yes I do, cars have stiff suspension, stock suspension on trucks are softer and do you know why? If not I shouldn't have to explain but softer suspension = smoother ride, stiffer suspension = rougher ride. So imagine the better suspension that guys upgrade on their truck which is even softer.
+F-350 6.7 PowerStroke no. Cars don't have "stiffer" and trucks don't have "softer". Every car and truck is different. My truck had a stiff suspension from the factory, since I've put on a cheap rough country lift, which wasn't cheap at all it was $1,200 and I put on 35" MT tires, truck is stiff as fuck. Because I don't want to spend 1,500 for King shock coil overs or a completely different lift that's 3,500. Cars are all different. No car really drives the same. They could be stiff. But there's plenty that are soft. Having a lift kit by no means at all is to have a smoother ride. It's all for height and ground clearance.
OverRotated Owl I never said that applying a lift kit means a smoother ride (even though your suspension travel is increased) and if it's what you read well that is not what I meant. Anyway in general cars have stiffer suspension and trucks softer but yes not every one are the same.
Almost all lifts come with diff drop brackets so your cv axle stays level, and most come with lift knuckles to correct tie rod angles and ball joint angles.
you don't need lift knuckles to correct tie rod angles and ball joint angles, but it helps
Tom Musick you don’t need beer to have fun, but it helps
Nathaniel Smith ?
He was a mechanic like 20 years ago lol its 2018 they have come along way
Good point but your talking about premium lift kits. I think he's referring to the shitty ones.
What if its factory lifted? AKA ford raptor?
a much better design that real engineers did in that case
Same as the old Blazer ZR2s. Engineers installed different front axles, drive line, rear end, rear axle, front differential, etc. Changing the geometry of a engineered suspension and drive train, just invites trouble, expensive repairs, and higher insurance premiums.
Oh, and just how much engineering does go into four spacer blocks you bolt in between the axles and your springs? NONE! The same stores and manufacturers that sell those lift kits will happily sell you new Borg Warner joints, axle shafts, drive lines, differentials, transfer cases, brake rotors, springs, transmissions, etc. etc. etc. I worked on a desert jeep tours tourist businesses, fleet of jeeps. They had a modest lift on SOME of their jeeps, but the suspension, and drive train failures on those lifted vehicles were far more frequent, and they only lifted the newer Jeeps, thinking the older ones were not worth the effort, yet the older supposedly more worn out vehicles incurred far fewer problems, than the lifted Jeeps. When I say older, I mean 2 or 3 years older.
HereComesVinny Those are designed that way from the factory, so they're at the right angles, tho will still wear marginally faster due to higher center of gravity and higher weight acting in conjunction with the higher center will ALWAYS create more stress, no matter what. It just is engineered to work that way stock, so it won't wear AS FAST as say a regular F150 done as a raptor look alike.
HereComesVinny its built for it then
Wow I must be lucky my 2013 Sierra has a 6 inch lift and 214K on it and I never broke my ankles or had a premature driveline failure!!! A properly engineered system maintains stock geometry!!!
Sounds like cope on top of cope
insecure about your manhood and want to ruin your vehicle? Lift your truck. Good luck selling that crap.EDITED: 5/15: You know I am not talking about a 2 or 4 inch lift. I mean a 2 foot lift without adding on the aftetmarket boot and joints.
Derrick Moses you must not know anything about trucks.. a lifted truck done correct will go for more than a stock truck........
TheRottenBanana i have to agree with you. Now gmc are making lifted truck now
Derrick Moses im a woman what about me
Informative video. Thanks for sharing your expertise. A question: Is there a sweet spot (i.e. 1" or 2" lift) in which the wear/damage would be diminished due to a less severe angle?
This is a good question
I enjoy and learn a lot from your content - thanks Scotty.But about lifted trucks, I’ve had them for 35 years and almost couldn’t picture driving anything else. There are lots of crappy lifts out there - but a well engineered modest (2-4”) lift that accounts for all the driveline and steering angle changes has minimal impact and can increase the performance, utility and most certainly looks of a 4x4 truck. Needless to say, doing it “right” even for a small lift is not cheap. That said, any half baked lift no matter how small or big will definitely cause wear problems, funny enough - I think one of the biggest offenders that seems so harmless but can cause the most damage is leveling kits on IFS trucks. They just raise all the driveline angles without any correction.
It basically ruins the idea of a truck. They were originally made for work, not play. On a regular truck, the weight is lower to the ground and that’s where most of the power is at, so it’ll have a bigger towing capacity. But if you lift it, the weight is in the sky, and power without traction is nothing. There’s less traction if you lift it. I’m also partly grateful for the idea of playing with a truck, since it’s really fun to go off-roading through the mountains.
I love your videos Scotty but this is a very uninformed video.
Lifting a truck like this one is absolutely bad,,,I totally agree on that.
But, like anything else in the car world there is a right way to do it too. If he had used a more expensive (and well designed) lift kit that added things like conversion pitment arms, diff drop and transfer case drop (or different driveshafts) and the proper spring rates there is no reason that a truck can't retain most of its comfort and reliability. It's all a matter of how much money you put into it to lift it correctly.
Yes the truck may be a bit more tipsy but wider tires and offset rims help gain a lot of that stability back.
Most importantly though there are people that don't live in the middle of suburbia that need a truck that can get through the woods, desert, mud, deep snow, and not get stuck all the time. They don't make stock vehicles that fit these needs all of the time so one must customize it to fit there needs.
So next time, before discounting all lift kits as stupid and destroying a vehicle, consider the fact that there is a wrong and right way to do things and what you are seeing is the wrong way, not the only way.
SO many people do it wrong, I had to show this one done wrong. and really, trucks are freaking high enough anyway, they are designed by engineers to run correctly, messing with that, makes em poorer vehicles if you're just driving on normal roads all the time.
I get what you're saying, I do and I agree I guess it just would have been nice to see some mention in the video that it can be done correctly... I mean heck that guy had a chicken wire grill of course it was lifted poorly lol.
What you should do is make a video about extreme lowering kind where you have to notch the frame for the a arms to fit... That's where you should be directing your hate lol.
Scotty Kilmer im sorry but that just sounds ignorant. if they're designed for rough terrain and last longer on rough terrain I mean common sense would say that nice clean terrain would prolong the life of that part I mean I agree that they can be half assed but other than the poor workmanship the life of it depends on the way its made and the maintenance.
if this truck had a straight axle it probably would have been easier to install a lift kit on it. my dodge is a straight axle so all i have to worry about is ball joints and control arms wearing out.
For sure... Solid front and rear axles are way easier to lift properly.
I'm one of the few that actually live in a swamp. Totally worth it come hurricane season.
This guy never seen a truck with a proper lift.
He's never seen Bigfoot either because they dont exist....