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CONTROVERSIAL: Men Are Funnier Than Women - Andrew Gold vs Yasmine Mohammed
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- Yasmine Mohammed, Andrew Gold, Ashley Frawley, & Rana Mallah play Spectrum Street Epistemology in London. Topics include religious extremism, feminism, and more.
Yasmine Mohammed is a human rights campaigner advocating for the rights of women in Muslim-majority countries. She is the author of "Unveiled: How Western Liberals Empower Radical Islam".
Website: www.yasminemoh...
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Andrew Gold is a former BBC presenter and host of "heretics." on TH-cam.
Andrew's channel: @andrewgoldheretics
Andrew's & Peter's recent interview: • The Insane Hypocrisy o...
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Ashley Frawley is a sociologist, lecturer, author, and COO of Sublation Media.
Ashley’s channel: @AshleyAFrawley
Ashley's books: www.amazon.com...
Ashley on X: / ashleyafrawley
Rana Mallah is an economist and consultant.
Rana's website: mallahrana2005...
0:00 Intro
1:40 Claims about friendship
8:53 Claims about feminism
12:40 Claims about sexism
16:15 Claims about marriage
20:47 Claims about right/left politics
22:55 Are men funnier than women?
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The unwoke left is right wing. This whole center-left/right is bs.
How could any woman who shows her hair possibly be friends with an extremist Muslim?
Loved doing this, what a pleasure. I had JUST interviewed Yasmine & Peter for my own pod, and had the pleasure of going out for dinner with this wonderful crew!
They were great interviews!
Loved watching this!
Was a pleasure meeting you :)
@@AshleyAFrawley likewise Ashley !
brilliant stuff
When the guests can articulate their thoughts and are civil these videos are really great, like this one.
Agreed!
I love being a man and walking anywhere I like in the dead of night with no fear or concern for my physical well-being, just like in the imaginations of women.
It’s not that you have nothing to fear, it’s that you don’t have to fear being raped or sexually harassed by a man
But statistically, men are attacked more than women. I know plenty of men who say they feel uncomfortable at night on their own
As a professional chef, it is true that there is a lack of females in the field. If we are talking about cooking ability, no men are not inherently better, but the ability to deal with the pressure of staring down 200 covers worth of food orders while the ticket machine is printing another 50 orders typically goes to males. Most females in a professional kitchen stick to baking because the pressure is in the actual baking of the product, not slinging plate after plate of food without making a mistake. I currently work in a nursing home kitchen as 1 of 2 men out of 10 chefs. We both chose the job specifically because of the high stress of a restaurant kitchen and not wanting to be in that environment. Plus, I think on average women see the rampant drug addiction in kitchens and steer clear. It's not a perfect analogy, but I do think it's close enough for professional comedy. I also agree with the issue of having children to care for takes women out of careers, and comedy requires visibility+talent.
The question was: Are men funnier than women[on average]. Not: are men better comedians than women.
To easily answer this question you can ask another: Are men more likely to demand to be entertained by women when they first meet, or are women more likely to expect to be entertained by men? Anyone pretending not to understand this is not worth listening to. Telling jokes is a way of demonstrating competence by taking social risks with an audience, there is a social penalty for telling jokes that fall flat and there is no reason for most women to develop this skill because the costs outweigh the benefits.
This is so overcomplicated
@@stuartbell6341 In true street epistemology fashion, I ask you: what are your reasons for saying so?
Well I can only speak from personal experience but it's usually a guy cracking up the entire group and very rarely a woman. Even if it is the woman, it's likely just her saying something that is unintentionally funny.
Men are also MUCH better comedians across the board
*”Women can’t walk home late at night so they can’t be comedians”*
Wait until she hears about the invention of cars, or the concept of male friends, boyfriends, husbands 🤪
Being constantly rewarded for being funny is really what's called a "selective pressure". People develop things that are constantly rewarded, and those things become eventually innate. We have been rewarded for going from water to land, that's why we have legs. Aren't our legs innate now ? Well they are. What the ladies here call "socializing", is actually that process of reward and developping things (skills, traits, biological parts, etc).
Men have at least a couple of selective pressures to be funny. One is the one Andrew mentioned, I would say the other is that being able to make fun of dark situations has probably been the solace of men in history during dark times (wars are to be mentioned).
Good point!
Not just wars, even farther back when it was, say, a big cat or other predators killing us. Or more likely when some dude f'ed up and got killed by a wildebeest type thing that kicked him dead.
I’ve never heard of selective pressure but this makes sense, very interesting thank you for sharing
"Stop being funny, you're ruining my argument!" - I am in tears! Well done Andrew!
Great session everyone, really enjoyed this
There is a lot more selective pressure on men to be funny, so naturally, men tend to be funnier.
Still, the funniest woman is going to be a lot funnier than the average man.
people have a hard time understanding the implications of two overlapping bell curves with one offset slightly in one direction
The exception doesn’t make the rule.
That’s like saying the tallest woman is taller than the average man.
16:00 excellent questions and responses for the marriage claims, especially the question about aliens, truly lays out the participants thought processes. Having a fourth person in this segment, you can see each player looking down at where they want to go and confidently placing themselves on a matt with intention and genuine thought behind each decision. Everyone hesitated and rehearsed a lot of conversations they may have had in the past about the same subjects in the beginning of the video, but as the questions posed by Peter became more unorthodox and frankly bizzare... some how everyone was more confident in their decision making. Amazing stuff, and i thank everyone who particpated for being totally well spoken and having throughness with ones use of words!
Agreed!
The sexism/inflation question is very confusingly phrased. It could be simplified to "sexism is worse than inflation"
Yeah a world with no inflation is akin to deflation which in economics is REALLY bad. Inflation in itself is not a bad thing, it's actually good in most scenarios.
Overall it's a poor question for this game because the "right" amount of inflation is an incredibly nuanced question which would depend on a lot of context and would be impossible to answer properly in this format.
purple hair is presupposing every answer before she asks the question. she imagines a muslim that she already is friends with instead of imagining a muslim and what they believe and then asking could she be friends with that kind of a person.
"Purple hair" is me, Ashley Frawley. And I agree that I had in mind a specific situation. But I also had in mind Roger Scruton's quip that he thinks his enemies are wrong whereas they think he's evil. I tend to grasp at the humanist thread that anyone can be convinced.
@@AshleyAFrawley fair but I think baked into part of the question is could THEY be friends with you/ do you have deeply conflicting world views that precludes friendship. Hardcore muslims dont hold very high views of women so whereas you might imagine a muslim you could be friends with, can you imagine one where you could maintain a relationship over a period of time given that they are "hardcore"? and did you maybe lose some of the "hardcore" aspect when trying to imagine a friend first muslim second?
@@TS-qr3rk I was actually in this situation with a friend a long time ago, and it's what I had in mind. He ended up drifting off into this underworld, but I didn't disown him as a friend when I first realised what was happening. I tried to talk to him but I lost him.
Is your reason kum ba yah?
No, I'm not a kum ba yah person.
What is your reason?
Kum ba yah.
...😂
What I was getting at is that I'm stubborn enough to think that anyone can be convinced.
@@AshleyAFrawley I think that it is good to have the attitude that anyone can be convinced. I also think that is what the song Kum Ba Yah is trying to express, although through a different ideological lens. You say anyone can be convinced, it says anyone can be saved.
I think you did fine, you didn't appear nervous. I had fun passively, and now actively, participating in the game with all of you.
@@jswets5007 I think the difference is that the connection between people is built on a shared capacity for reason rather than on kindness or good feelings!
@@AshleyAFrawley Yes, the only difference is the ideological lens. I agree with you.
Ha-ha! I guessed the reason that Yasmine gave. I know of her for being an EX-Muslim, and I know that "hard-core" Muslims are not known for their tolerance of apostasy. I mean, would Salman Rushdie get along with a "hard-core" Muslim? It's not about how tolerant he is of other people. It's about how intolerant "hard-core" Muslims seem to be.
The more important question is "does she have any hard core Muslim friends?". No need to phrase it as a hypothetical.
Muslims don’t think so I doubt it
Thanks for all you do Peter. I discovered your video a few weeks ago and it’s been very eye opening. You contribute to the good by promoting critical thought. I wish more people would prioritize your principles, especially in America’s contemporary school system
25:19 Being a 100kg male is no more privileged than being a 50kg female walking a night. A privilege requires a authority to grant a special right, there is no special right of night walking for 100kg males.
Solution: gun's are a equalizer for body mass. A woman with a gun is equal a man with a gun.
Eh...
A 100kg man is still far stronger than a 150kg woman so, no.
@@peanutbutterbruv A privilege requires a authority to grant a special right. Try again. Males are granted what right females don't have? It's in the Bill of Rights, right?
Maybe that males are exempt from paying for personal hyenine or something like that. A special right women don't have?
California Code § 35292.6 public institutions must provide menstrual products free of cost. A privileged right by authority.
Men are far and away the most common victims of stranger violence in public, this assertion about how dangerous the public sphere is is nonsensical. Violence against women is almost exclusively intimate partner violence. The clubs are full of women every night, including comedy clubs. Reaching for that as a causal element suggests argument in bad faith.
Women are FAR worse at shooting sports than men
Only thing I would push back about the traveling/experience aspect of comedy is that acting, music and dancing requires a lot of the similar hours and exposure. And they are not particularly lacking in representation in those ventures.
Men are funny than women but there are some women that are really funny. The last girl I dated was genuinely the funniest woman I've ever met. The funniest one after her was my grandma, but my granny is like at an all-time level level of comedy. This lady is funny without even trying. So there are exceptions to the rule, but generally speaking it's due to our funnier. But if you date a woman who's genuinely funny, keep her. That woman is a gem
Peter, please invest in microphones for every person in a small group like this✌️
It’s kind of like the forums in Rome where one person held a ball, and then they pass it when it’s time for the next person to talk. Keeps order
it would probably make the hole thing a bit more complected you need to split each Chanel
@@ONI09100Technical people can figure this out in a minute.
Please don't. I like that Peter controls the narrative by controlling the mic. And more mics means more tracks, which means more mixing and more editing, which then again would mean investing more money towards the editing process. Not a worthwhile expense when the format works as well as it does right now.
@@jacobskovsbllknudsen5908 Then everyone needs to be conscious of the mic and only talk so we can hear them. Simple awareness.
Great one! Gotta say I'm kinda surprised no one could guess Yasmine's reason for not being able to have hardcore/extremist Muslim friends. I would think it's kind of obvious and that's because I heard Andrew's interview with her (which was excellent).
It felt touching to me that they HEARD Yasmine and that both MOVED over that red line issue, instead of slagging It off.
This is going to turn into a game show at some point with a play at home version
feminism isnt humanism
Feminism benefits us all. Advocating for men's rights makes you an enemy of the state. /s
Its a weopon of tyrants used to destroy the country and cause all kinds of problems disguised as compassion and equality
Exactly! Humanism is humanism. And when you get their definition for feminism, you find out it's already covered by egalitarianism.
Being funny is about not taking yourself too seriously. And men man don't take themselves too seriously.
I would do love to do one of these. You need some people who aren't scared to share their real opinions
Of course they are. Women find humor attractive as a sign of intelligence (which means accomplishment more likely), because it makes them feel at ease, and because laughter automatically creates a positive feeling inside. Its a powerful selection tool l, especially as a way for average-attractiveness men to raise their status.
I think being really funny (often in a self-ironic way) clashes with the classic female concept of being popular, cute, "harmless" etc.
Folks like Ricky Gervais do not hesitate to make an ass of themselves if it works in a joke. Takes a certain mind-set, which is/ was not encouraged in girls or women, I would guess hazardly
greetings from a too tall-too weird woman, so definetely not gender-conform, with a great sense of humor and (self-)irony
and re the solace part: if you manage to laugh at bitter situations it might save you in the long run, like, when my dad had cancer, went into chemo, made an "Piece of art" of his then function-less hair brush, in an old glass fish tank on a pedastel
and when I am really down in a funk, I think of Monty Pythons "Always look on the bright side..."
Of course, telling jokes in a group setting requires that you are happy to risk alienating the whole group in hopes of achieving a greater status and standing out, this is behavior that men are required to engage in if they want to reproduce. Men are required to engage in some kind of performance demonstrating their abilities and there is less pressure for women to do so. It's odd that people who generally believe that social pressures are responsible for every other kind of behavior would deny this particular case.
21:25. "If the right wing were in power, I'd be taxed a lot less." I thought they WERE?
7:35 That was the first reason that came to my mind too... I'm mildly surprised that it never crossed the minds of the other players while guessing, but I'm glad to see they're receptive enough to change their stance after hearing the argument (though I still think Ashley seems to be reasoning backwards from the assumption that the hypothetical extremist Muslim is *already* her friend, rather than considering whether or not that type of person would even befriend to her in the first place).
Yeah I was doing that because I was thinking of the situation I was in about 15 years ago where my friend who happened to be Muslim started radicalising. I didn't immediately disown him. I tried to talk to him and bring Jim back to reality.
Some of the best guests so far. Really thoughtful and articulate.
Okay, just my experience....I've no idea if men are "funnier" than women....I know that both sexes value "a sense of humour" very highly in a potential mate (which makes sense, since humour is a sign of intelligence), but they define it differently...women tend to define a sense of humour as "he can make me laugh"....men tend to define it as "she laughs at my jokes"....very different, but still complementary...
8:42 she misunderstood the question. We're talking about the extreme here. When you're in the extremes you're closed. If you had an open mind then you wouldn't be called a fundamentalist or an extremist.
The first step to becoming funny is learning what is funny and ridiculous about yourself.
You can't just be funny and fully dignified all the time.
Men have a much easier time just taking that and running with it.
While women, there's a reason we treat them with deference at any given time.
Rita Rudner is pretty good at being funny and dignified at that same time.
@@brittybee6615 and to get there she probably spent years making herself look ridiculous
Hi Peter, you're an inspiration. Please keep up the great work. Sending positive energy from Nigeria.
I keep forgetting I bought Yasmine’s book a few years ago and haven’t read it yet. I need to do that. 😂
Andrew Gold is GOLD!
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This should be taught at school more. Everyone is civil and take the ego out of defending/critising ideas. It's simply ideas and opinions. Nothing more. They should always be able to change depending on new input.
There's clearly some kind of anchoring bias toward where you are already standing when the question is asked; I wonder if Peter would try the same experiment with a reset step between questions (move to the center first)!
The comment section will fail this test as they prefer Yasmin who is 1/2 woke over non woke Ashley on account of her hairstyle.
Andrew Gold sounds exactly like Gigguk...
To be funny, it helps if you don't have a chip on your shoulder and use comedy to vomit your frustration.
I enjoy these. Being funny does generally demand intelligence, almost every women would answer their ideal man would be funny.
14:32 I would much rather live in a world where there wasn't widespread poverty. If I had enough money to put food on the table, pay my bills, and all this, I'd be okay in a world that was bigoted towards me. If we lived in a world with no bigotry but I was impoverished, I would hate that world. Sure in that world I'm not getting talked down to or segregated, but in that world I have no way forward.
I would love to partake in one of these.
Tina Fey and Amy Poehler have been the funniest hosts at the Golden globes. Carol Burnett ruled TV comedy for years, as did Lucille Ball.
As always Peter, the stuff you did in England is excellent. However I can't help thinking it is a shame you didn't get the chance to do some SSE with some of the kids from the Michaela School. I think they would have been really interesting. Anyway, keep it coming, your content is great.
Thanks, but in general we do not do recorded SSE with anyone under 18. We did do it at Eton but it was not recorded.
Girl from Ontario and from Vancouver BC. I might be stereotyping, but I think I'll be able to predict all their opinions, from just their locations.
Post Watching: 95% accurate. Without knowing some of the specific details, like being ex-Muslim, I wasn't able to guess those types of answers, and I was expecting a bit more agree/disagree than strong/slightly.
That girl who said she's not woke, you could have probably pressed a few of those topics a bit more, to see if she really was woke or not.
She’s a writer publisher and podcaster so her opinions are known going into this - and she is not woke
@@tidakada7357 Just because you know her, doesn't mean that she still not a "literally who" to the me. She might not be radically woke, but she's a left-wing female in Canada, so she's more woke than not.
Did you not see her answers to the comedy question, etc? She's accepted a lot of wokeness.
Sorry to burst your bubble about your interest waifu.
@AshleyAFrawley YT didn't like this reply to you, so I had to be creative.
Stop being so self-riotous, that you think I care about you enough, to have to or want to google you. You've clearly searched for yourself enough for the two of us.
Yes, you've bought into the entire narrative, that nurture is the biggest determining factor for differences between guys and girls. It's a lie. For every Tina Fey, there's a thousand guys. There's the intelligence level required, to follow the pattern/structure of creating the joke, which I'm not questioning that girls can be funny. I'm saying that the motivation for girls to be funny, isn't as there. Not only do girls have a different role within evolutionary terms, but also within social terms. Girls want to be pursued by men, which means that guys aren't selecting for the girls who are funny, but the girls are selecting for the guys that are funny. Along with the fact that girls have a naturally difference skill set, resulting in the social roles being typically within the caring/compassion, and will use those far sooner than trying to diffuse with comedy. More often than not, it's the girls saying that it's not the appropriate time to be making jokes.
As I've said, you're not as woke as a some, but you're still quite woke.
Ironically, you've painted me as a caricature, because I got to listen to ~25 minutes of your thoughts and values, while you know basically nothing about me.
(inb4 you say that you've been able to learn so much about me, from the few words I previously typed)
Leave me out of your podcasting and whatever else you do publicly(for money or not), or you'll have proven me even more right than I ever expected, that you're so self-riotous and that you think you can determine so much about me from so few words.
@@corystarkiller are you talking about Frawley or Yasmine? Frawley is a native American from Canada that lives in the UK. Yasmine is an Ex muslim /anti islam activist and feminist Canadian in Canada.
@@corystarkiller Google is your friend. I'm from Canada but I haven't lived there for nearly 20 years. And it's not woke to say that I could imagine women being less funny than men because of socialisation. You're trying to paint me as a caricature but you've become one yourself.
@@AshleyAFrawley Look at the post above yours, but you'll have to sort by Newest.
I don’t think the presence of social factors necessarily affects a natural ability or inclination, and it certainly doesn’t invalidate it. A group of women can easily talk for 2 hours without a single joke being made, but it’s a challenge for guys to go 10 minutes without injecting humour. I believe it’s natural, and men are much more comedic (though not always funnier) than women.
I think my opinion is similar to yours. In no way do I think men are inherently funnier, but it might be true that they tru to be funny more than women do, hence developing the skill, like the second woman said.
Also women tend to be more interested in a man who makes them laugh. It's a sign of intelligence and, although this may be changing now, it may also be true that women are more interested in a gsoh in a partner than men are, and if men are being sexually selected on such a basis, then wouldn't that lead to men evolving the ability over time?
yea because being funny is a way for men to gain status, showing off quick wits. it's one of the infinite avenues that men use to compete with each other. women don't stand to gain very much by being funny in part because you always risk making enemies when you're cracking jokes, and the social rewards just aren't really there for them
The question was are men funnier than women and not "why are men funnier than women". They went straight to victim mindset lol
I have never laughed at a female comedian. All they talk about is VJJ and disparaging men.
The chef argument around women in comedy made sense to me. The jobs that are evening and nightime employment make it really hard for mother's to pursue. It's probably easier for a woman (mother) to be an actor or a baker, than a comedian or a chef because of the hours.
It’s not controversial. Clearly men are funnier in general. Name 3 genuinely hilarious female standup comedians. You can’t.
Suggestion: have participants start at a position that is completely off the spectrum (e.g. center of the semicircle). That would allow viewers to distinguish between them (tentatively) answering neutral, and simply not having answered yet.
Thanks for your work. 🙂
The guy is wrong about Christopher Hitchens' article and his overarching point. Hitchens argued that men being funnier was an environmental imperative as women tend to factor in humor as something valuable when looking for a partner for a myriad of reasons (i.e being funny tends to be an indicator of high intelligence). Men on the other hand tend to not value humor as an important trait when searching for partners (at least not as much as women). This puts a higher socialogical pressure on men to develop their comedic skills.
So yeah, Hitchens would agree with the statement but for completely different reasons, it's environmental not biological.
Re: the "Men are funnier than women" question. Andrew's first point citing Christopher Hitchens mostly hits the nail on the head. I've thought about this question for years. Here's my full take. Men have to attract women in order to have relationships and to gain access to sex. In order to do this they have to give out attraction cues. In order to do that they have to speak up, as leaders, and that means having a personality. And having a personality better be one that is going to be positive. We call this "Charisma". The young generation have even given it a modern name - "Rizz". Displaying an attractive personality, comprising of confidence, leadership and humour gets women. This combined set of characteristics is called "Having Game".
It has nothing to do with how many men are comedians. It has everything to do with men having a personality. Good looking, boring men, might attract women but won't help keep them. Ordinary looking men with charisma, and game, will both attract women, and help them keep them. It's dead easy to study this yourselves. Watch 100 TED Talks - 50 by men and 50 by women. Most of the 50 by men will include humour early in the talk to build attraction and rapport with the audience. Most of the 50 by women will not. This applies to any public scenario. I can't believe how the participants don't innately know this, particularly Peter.
This was an interesting insight into how women and men think differently.
Also, women do not HAVE to be funny.
Men are almost inherently disregarded, and some of us develop humor as a way to garner attention from society, not to mention the opposite sex.
there's a reason the funniest men you know are kind of physically awkward and not very good looking
@@beowulf_of_wall_st exactly. Same with the god tier guitar players. Stevie Ray Vaughan was hideous. But goddamn could he play a guitar.
I wish these were longer
Men are definitely more funny than women. When you ask women what their number one trait of a potential partner is, beyond being taller than she and having a stable income, having a good sense of humor wins. Always. Very few men list that as their number one trait for a female partner.
Yasmine Mohammed is one of my favorite people. Thanks for including her in this skit!
15:53 there is one obviously worse one. Racism is obviously worse than sexism. We've had both of these in our world and they currently still exist in our world. Only one of these has led to wars.
I mean but that’s one kind of racism and one kind sexism although evolving throughout; you could easily imagine a world where there is mild racism and brutal sexism
Fab as always, thank you Pete.
Hitchens's article stank. Embarrassingly. You can call something a biological imperitive; that doesn't prove it's a real phenomenon.
i think men on average can be funnier as they tend to be less sensitive and aren’t always as worried about how other people will view them if they do something stupid. With that being said, i know a lot of women who don’t take themselves too seriously are way funnier than an average man who cares too much about what others think
The answer is believe all women.
I see feminism as humanism? Sorry feminism is feminism and humanism is humanism. Redefining a word and therefore I have this view of it is dumb.
Poverty and climate change are survival issues but bigotry and sexism are more freedom issues. I admit there are overlaps between freedom and survival but when you combine them I think we are really asking if survival more compelling than freedom. That people usually choose survival doesn't mean we overrate freedom so what is this question doing?
No communism questions? I was excited to see Ashley debating
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ i envy that kind of interaction ……. let’s all go to Sugar rock Candy Mountain
6:31 I don't think she agrees with what she just said there. Would she be a friend with a KKK member? They could have everything else in alignment with just the exception of the values of KKK members.
You're not calling your guests out on virtue signaling. Sure, they can choose to say they'd marry a no-hands poor person, but the truth is, they wouldn't.
Men aren’t funnier than women (it’s not even clear what that would even mean as a proposition), but what seems to be true is that male friendship groups tend to have a more competitive edge when it comes to humour (younger males in particular) and there may well be a tendency in males to engage in more “edgy” or transgressive humour. That’s only very generally speaking of course. Lots of men don’t like edgy humour and lots of women do.
You don't know wihat it would mean for men to be funnier than women in general?
Isn't this room epistemology?
Both chef and comedian require analytics, males are better at that than females. Females have always specialized in calculation and that comes at the expense of analytics. Male tall, female short. It's easy for a male to be male and a female to be female because evolutionarily we specialized based on sex and that extends to everything we do.
If you're short and want to be the best a being tall, it's going to be a hard road to average height, but go be hard on yourself, ur a adult individual that can live with the consequences of your choices.
If you have to ask.....
Your task here, Peter, was to find a way to circumvent people's lame daily politeness. A girl with a purple lock can't give you a true answer. She can only give you the "Barbie" answer. In case you're wondering the "Barbie" answer stems from when Barbie goes to confront the board of directors and they are all men in the film, but only 60% men in real life. So, in real life men are more funny because it's their trait, but in the head that wears a purple lock, it's always the patriarchy. You can hardly find 1 funny woman for every 10 mill funny men. And even among the few that insist on climbing the stage again and again, most get pity laughs.
I have been waiting for this moment for years
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I find it interesting that the far left person was the only one who found the experience uncomfortable. Is that because they avoid debate and prefer to operate in an echo chamber? 🤔
Ashley Frawley had James Lindsay on her TH-cam channel and had three tabs people all with different views on the current trans debate. I think she tries to make sense of what people think and say while holding her own views. As she said she sees herself as part of the non woke left who holds free speech as an important ideal.
No if you follow her work she actually talks with a wider range of people than Peter does
There’s women in every race - end sexism
I mean... Have you seen Shane Gillis. Its unreal!
I had to laugh over how quickly the assumption was made that being a comedian is the only measure of how funny a person is! I have not seen any difference in the sexes regarding the tendency to crack a joke, make fun of, or look at things in a comedic manner. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be a biological tendency connected in some way to disposition!
so your saying you dont know any humans. men ARE funnier than women, its just a fact. Men are also better chefs.
I think women tend to find other women close to them funnier while men in general don't like female-style humor as much.
That's been some of my experience.
The question wasn't limited to the comedy profession, and it also didn't ask if men had an innate biological superiority in humor, it simply asked if men were funnier.
@@daveldma Right! I get that. You've misunderstood my comment I think. I was actually responding to how the exchange was singularly focused on one metric for funniness - those who do stand up comedy (of which the vast majority, I think, are male) Obviously there are extremely funny people who wouldn't even consider getting up on a stage to make people laugh. That's all I was saying. As to innate biological superiority - I'm not sure how you extrapolated that! I was merely musing over the possibility that the tendency towards comedic wit could be innate somehow. We've all known people who are just naturally funny....and in my 57 year experience, anyway, it doesn't seem to lean in any one direction sex-wise....
@@DrPooks I'm curious - why do you point out other women "close to them"?
27:00 there's two ways of coming at this question. You can look at it as asking if we look at the totality of all humans existing currently, and we would have a scientific way of determining funniness, would there be more funny men than funny women. I think that a lot of people would say yes there would be more, in quantity, funny men. The other way to look at it is to say is there something biologically making either sex more funny. And I think if you were to phrase the question and this way most people would say there's nothing biological that's making one sex more funnier than the other. Most people would say that this is a social conditioning that more cultivates funniness from men than for women.
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I had both answers on being friends with a hardcore Muslim 😂😂
Why do women have an issue with men being more funny? Every time. It’s hilarious to watch them come up with what amount to silly excuses.
Reluctance to acknowledge that men are better than them at something. They have a 25:14 zero sum gender war game on the go in their heads
Did the cheap stereotypical, shallow purple lock said (08:38) that a FUNDAMENTALIST Muslim would be open minded so she could be friends with him? Noyce.
LOL right, women can’t be successful comedians because it’s unsafe walking home late at night. 😂 She could be a successful comedian just by sharing her honestly-held beliefs.
OK, the alien sex change question is ... well... how does one answer it? Would one even like their partner after this violation? I would imagine that the change would be horrible for the partner causing all kinds of anger and likely deep anger and resentment. Would I likely stay married to my partner if that had happened to them and they were aware of this change? I doubt it, because that wouldn't be my partner anymore, and no I'm not talking about the body alone. Many years ago I read about a woman whose husband's personality changed into an angry, suspicious, often verbally abusive version of himself and it was discovered that it was an operable, non cancerous brain tumor. He refused the surgery and eventually she divorced him, both for the sake of her child, whom she didn't want to grow up in such a horrible environment, and for herself, as she wasn't going to sacrifice the rest of her life and happiness on a situation which was fixable. I see this situation as quite similar. I've been talking a lot with my mom who is in her mid/late seventies and is now 5+ years widowed and I've learned how unhappy she and my father both had been much of their over 40 year marriage. She stayed thinking it was the best for me, but I think of a life time spent unhappily and not fulfilled.
I can't think of one funny female comedian.
On the "men funnier than women" question: I have a hard time buying the two 'neutral' arguments - I would say Rana is closer to the truth, whereby men have simply the historical cultural advantage over women insofar as the men's side of the culture has had way more opportunity to develop over time. Possibly originally as a result of the biological imperative/incentives, but now as just a vestigial side-effect of that ancient truth. Therefore, it *is true* that men are funnier than women, simply due to having a head start in that cultural race, but we can ease out of it to achieve greater parity over time if that's what we value.
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13:30 - so much confusion because you have two negative claims. if possible, avoid negative claims, because they confuse a statement. "negative statement is better than negative statement" is kinda backwards. consider: "I prefer inflation to sexism" instead of "I prefer a world with no sexism to a world with no inflation"... one of these statements is easier to understand because it's not comparing two negative statements, it's a single positive statement. it also removes "the world", which is irrelevant to the concept. so making a simpler statement overall.
language is important to comprehension, and adding irrelevant bits and negatives or double negatives simply confuses things. ;-)
"there isnt any unwoke left" "but you are unwoke left" so there is unwoke left then....bring back classical liberalism.
100 % can’t think of one good woman comedian
Yes, Men are funnier, get over it ladies.
Discrimination is mostly a strength while Diversity is mostly a weakness.
I like to think of myself as discriminating person, not a discriminatory one. I choose my friends carefully. The questions posed by Peter were thoughtful and thought provoking. Great guests. Keep this content coming.
Men tend to be funnier than women. Does this mean every man is funnier than every woman? NO.
Remember what Hitch (Christopher, not the Will Smith character) had to say about this?
Hanna Gatsby. Is not funny.
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Part of becoming a good (i.e., funny) comedian is getting on stage and honing the craft through trial and error. If more men than women are doing that because more men are _able_ to do that, then there will be more funny men than funny women.
if women are able to be bartenders they're also able to do a 30 minute set at a stand up comedy club, it's a nonsense argument
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